Comparing Rail Rods for San Diego Tuna Fishing

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  • čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
  • We compare 7 different rods that are available in H&M Landing's tackle shop. While there are many more that are available, the ones we looked at are listed below.
    The proteus ended up being a big winner for the lower priced rods while we saw why the higher end rods are worth their price.
    0:00 | Intro
    0:16 | Okuma PCH
    2:31 | Graftech 3x
    3:38 | Daiwa Proteus
    4:54 | Seeker OSP
    6:03 | United Composites Invictus
    7:17 | Super Seeker 3x5
    9:09 | Rainshadow Rental Rod

Komentáře • 156

  • @Hook2Cook
    @Hook2Cook Před rokem +14

    You guys are killing it with these tutorial videos. Super high quality. Great job steve and co.

  • @copperstatewayfarer3235
    @copperstatewayfarer3235 Před rokem +6

    Thanks for taking the time to detail the differences between the tiers! Great work!

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem +1

      Glad you liked it! Thank you for letting us know!

  • @SeniorGymBro-Tom
    @SeniorGymBro-Tom Před 7 měsíci +1

    All of these Legend videos are fantastic! I will book my very first Tuna trip ever in 2024, on The Legend. I’ll be heading over there from my home here in Phoenix, AZ. I’m stoked to give it a try, probably with a 2 day trip to start. Great info!

  • @HXwolf83
    @HXwolf83 Před 2 měsíci

    These videos are awesome, I watched your reel video and purchased a Speedmaster 20 and after watching this video I decided on pairing that reel with a Seeker OSP 1X3. Can’t wait to use my new set up on The Legend, thank you guys!

  • @2hyped72
    @2hyped72 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video. Awesome to have somebody explain the relevant terms with a visual demonstration

  • @user-xm3ux6es3h
    @user-xm3ux6es3h Před 9 měsíci

    yall did a fantastic job on letting someone know what to get on any kind of trip to make ❤❤❤❤, plus I love fishing out of there when I was a small kid

  • @so.ca.desertlife6229
    @so.ca.desertlife6229 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for a great video really helps to see what to looking for, and the difference between rods.
    Like previous mentioned would like to see same class rods being compared but still very informative. Love my seeker 2x4 yet to catch anything on my uc rods.

  • @rodneyb8453
    @rodneyb8453 Před rokem +3

    United Composite Centaur works really well for me. Loads up and recoils very nicely with 25-30 pounds of drag on 100 pound test.

  • @jeffreygibbons6878
    @jeffreygibbons6878 Před rokem

    Excellent video. Very educational. Thanks

  • @117LIGHT117
    @117LIGHT117 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I have the proteus 80 - unlimited on my Penn 30 visx and that one handles all fishes with ease. For the price point of that one, you can't beat it. It was cool to see the difference in glass and composite too.

  • @fishingmaestro
    @fishingmaestro Před rokem

    Great content once again, fellows🤙🏼🤙🏼

  • @venturarealestate9918

    Awesome comparison video!

  • @Mr05sti
    @Mr05sti Před rokem +8

    Damn can't believe that glass showcase didn't break lol

  • @jaycarmichael435
    @jaycarmichael435 Před rokem

    That was An awesome video I needed to see where those rods bend at.. I have 2 of those rods in the pile, Now I know where they bend Is great job again

  • @maryhaas870
    @maryhaas870 Před rokem +1

    Taipan rods!! Newer on the scene, but definitely worth looking at

  • @jeffkim1271
    @jeffkim1271 Před rokem +6

    Just ordered a Phenix black Diamond hybrid X3H, can’t wait to give it a try!

  • @carlosruizjr6310
    @carlosruizjr6310 Před rokem

    great tutorial that's why Legend is my favorite boat in San Diego !

  • @jake9705
    @jake9705 Před rokem +7

    2:08 -- You guys are pretty brave to put that much stress on a glass counter top 😂

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem +1

      Yeah it isn’t as bad as it looks. It’s way more sturdy and heavy duty than a normal class display case lol

    • @tonywestover9610
      @tonywestover9610 Před rokem

      It's a Grand to replace the glass

    • @johnsmith-xd9ej
      @johnsmith-xd9ej Před rokem +1

      Smashed & grabbed proof!!

  • @maedatyson9143
    @maedatyson9143 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video. Visually looking at rod bends are way better than listening to someone explain rod construction. Thanks guys, can you review Phenix axis xxh or xxxh next?

  • @VuTang858
    @VuTang858 Před rokem +3

    Calstar rods have the perfect bend to shut off, followed by Seeker.

  • @jlperez1234
    @jlperez1234 Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks for a great video. I learned a lot from !!!!

  • @joeshmoe3949
    @joeshmoe3949 Před rokem +3

    Nice job. It was nice to see the side angle with 20# of weight on them. My only advice would be to have all 100# class rods (80-130). You had quite a range of rods including really heavy ones that you were comparing.

    • @Mr05sti
      @Mr05sti Před rokem +2

      Rail rods don't really go by line class.. More about drag settings why 20 lbs is a good example.

  • @dzungduong6232
    @dzungduong6232 Před rokem +1

    Please review the Phenix Axis HAX-C 760X3H and HAX-C 760X4H. Thanks for a great comparison video. Will use your technique to check the action on my rail rods.

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem

      Glad it was so helpful!! That’s great to hear.

  • @patrickodonogue8823
    @patrickodonogue8823 Před rokem +1

    Fellas, good video. Was a bit surprised that you didn't include any CalStar products (perhaps the shop does not carry them?). Have used CalStar 770XH-XXH with great effect for a few years now. Very dependable, and, for me, a rod that really allows you to put a lot of pressure on a fish.

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem +2

      Unfortunately the shop didn’t have any calstar rail rods. We both are big fans of calstar, but we were unable to demo one for this video.

  • @therealtruth2324
    @therealtruth2324 Před 11 měsíci

    Phenix Black Diamond Hybrid got me into the triple digits club. A great rod for the price. PHD 700X’H 60-130lb 🤙🏼🎣 Tight Lines everyone.

  • @naturalmystics-kd9vt
    @naturalmystics-kd9vt Před 10 měsíci

    You have some good points when you say the longer rod keep you clear from the boat props ruder and other fisher man

  • @john444jc
    @john444jc Před rokem

    The video is gold! Would like to see a 2x4 and Centaur.

  • @grahamsulekfishingrodbuild4169
    @grahamsulekfishingrodbuild4169 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Randy Penny designed the seekers and ownes United Composites So that's why the bend on the seekers and the UC are similar.

  • @lookalikehuuh
    @lookalikehuuh Před 7 měsíci +1

    Would love to see this with some calstars and phenix rods.

  • @anthonypeak2125
    @anthonypeak2125 Před 11 měsíci

    Shocking to see Calstar omitted. It is a safe bet on what you will get. Great video including all your other previous work. It's gonna be tough to supersede these latest videos. Hope to see you guys soon.

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před 11 měsíci

      This is just what we had available in the shop at this time. We love our CalStars!
      Glad you like the channel, thank you!

  • @tr4508
    @tr4508 Před 11 měsíci

    Good info overall. Might be better if compared comprable sizes. For instance, Okumu 4X compares equally to the Diawa versus the 3X. Maybe the Seeker 1X3 versus UC Raptor, both 60-100#.

  • @xXMizuJetXx
    @xXMizuJetXx Před rokem +1

    i love the proteus. I have 3 and would definitely buy another if I need.

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem

      It tested super well! Steve has started recommending that as a top notch rod for the price point.

    • @jerrdirt
      @jerrdirt Před rokem +1

      What kind of reel do you have on the Proteus?

  • @djdemiter
    @djdemiter Před 2 měsíci

    Great video, thanks guys! I cringed a bit to see that weight and force on top of the glass showcase.

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před 2 měsíci

      As we all did 😂 glad you liked the video!

  • @ikjunpark3661
    @ikjunpark3661 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the review! I have a Phenix HAX7203XH - this video makes me want to try the Daiwa Proteus. Is it worth the switch? Which do you guys prefer?

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před 11 měsíci

      I think Nate would be a really great resource for that question! You can call into the landing at 619-222-1144, option 2, and ask for him 😊 he’s more familiar with those rod specs than Steve or myself

  • @bojangles_bonjangles8000
    @bojangles_bonjangles8000 Před 10 měsíci +2

    How does the Phenix Axis 760X4H stack up?

  • @OffshoreAngler88
    @OffshoreAngler88 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Is there any way you could include the length of the rods as well? Thanks.

  • @jamesvelasco7525
    @jamesvelasco7525 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Can you do a review on graftech xxh 100 to 130

  • @killacam7015
    @killacam7015 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Yeah could you guys do a phoenix axis rail rod video 8ft 60-130

  • @anthonycasas7770
    @anthonycasas7770 Před rokem +2

    Awesome video thanks a lot was wondering if you can do a video with the reels that will go with the rods and the price comparison thanks a lot guys

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem

      We have one! 😊 czcams.com/video/ckE_3OFVMR4/video.html

    • @anthonycasas7770
      @anthonycasas7770 Před rokem

      I will be in to buy a rod and reel for my trip on the Poseidon for July 24 Man I’m so excited and I can’t wait. Thanks again guys.
      I’m looking for a rig that I can fish the islands to for a full day trip, so not so big, but not so light either I just want to say thanks again guys you guys are a big help

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem +1

      Super happy to help!!

  • @naturalmystics-kd9vt
    @naturalmystics-kd9vt Před 10 měsíci

    Please do a video on calstar gf770xxxh calstar united composite gladiator 7'and 7' 6" thank you

  • @matrixx611
    @matrixx611 Před 10 měsíci

    Can you test the Phenix Hybrid 4X, 3X?

  • @FirstLetterK
    @FirstLetterK Před 9 měsíci

    I e been thinking about getting either the proteus or pch custom! Proteus it is!

  • @pouriansoutdoors
    @pouriansoutdoors Před rokem

    Great video. How often is the topshot on the heavy rental setups changed?

  • @emelsee2831
    @emelsee2831 Před 9 měsíci

    What was the length of the Super Seeker 3x5 used in the video?

  • @gerry453
    @gerry453 Před rokem

    Great video, thanks very informative! Which one of these rods are the easiest and less stress on the angler if price was not an issue? More power to "LEGEND", keep them coming.

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem +1

      Steve personally favors the super seeker, and he’s over 6 ft. That’s also what I (Cat) use every time I’m on the boat, and I’m 5’3”. Fighting my first hundred pounder with that rod felt super smooth! So I’d say between us, that is our go-to rail rod.

    • @gerry453
      @gerry453 Před rokem

      @@FishTheLegend Thanks so much.

  • @olivergray5133
    @olivergray5133 Před 11 měsíci +1

    What type of reels are you using? I recently got an Avet HXW 5/2 Raptor (100lb braid) and was wondering if it would pair well with the Daiwa Proteus?

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před 11 měsíci

      We have a whole video on comparing reels that can be paired with these rods! czcams.com/video/ckE_3OFVMR4/video.html

  • @PapaPuff63
    @PapaPuff63 Před 10 měsíci

    Nate and skipper my skipper

  • @Truthfulfisherman
    @Truthfulfisherman Před 3 měsíci

    Can you troll with all or do you always use the ones with the spinning pulleys ?

  • @bryanbouma8212
    @bryanbouma8212 Před 11 měsíci

    How wood the Penn Carnage 3 80-150 compare to the Diawa Proteus. Thanks will be going out in September hope the bite keeps up.

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před 11 měsíci

      We’d suggest the proteus over the carnage in terms of quality of rod, but the carnage will get the job done if that’s what you got! 👍🏽

  • @craignmz5264
    @craignmz5264 Před rokem

    What’s you opinion on a comparison of a Talica 25II and the Penn INT20VISXS International VISX?

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem

      This is from my buddy that works at a tackle shop “Medium frame vs heavy frame. Longevity and build is a bit heavier on the international. All internals are beefier. For the average joe the Talica is plenty”

  • @nolanoshiro2083
    @nolanoshiro2083 Před 6 měsíci +1

    i know the season is over for a lot of boats. how about rounding (borrow/beg) up some of the rods mentioned in the comments an doing the test before all the trade shows

  • @edwinyoon
    @edwinyoon Před rokem +5

    Interesting, no Calstar - 775xxh is my go go. At 460 the phenix axis 760x3h is solid I feel. Good video

    • @pan8a
      @pan8a Před 11 měsíci +1

      Do you have any knowledge or opinion on the Grafighter 700XXH? It's rated 50-120

    • @edwinyoon
      @edwinyoon Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@pan8a I have used the 700xh and the 700xxh, it is a much softer rod compared to the rail rod series “77x” using lighter Fuji casting guides vs the heavier Fuji HB guides. There is much less low end lift power. I would say the 700xxh is a good 80 stick, and I would use it for dropping jigs as it’s comfortable to hold for longer periods of time due to the decreased weight. Just my opinion though.

    • @pan8a
      @pan8a Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@edwinyoon thanks a lot. That's the exact information I was looking for!

    • @pan8a
      @pan8a Před 10 měsíci +1

      How about the 7470XH, how does that rod compare to the 775xxh? I can get a real good deal on a 7470 but I'm not sure if I should just spend the extra $100 and get the 775.

    • @edwinyoon
      @edwinyoon Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@pan8a I’m not familiar with that blank! Sorry

  • @rubenglv
    @rubenglv Před rokem +9

    Calstar 770XXH 80-130

    • @scottleggejr
      @scottleggejr Před rokem +3

      Surprised to not see them or Phenix on the list

    • @pan8a
      @pan8a Před 11 měsíci

      How about the 700XXH rated 50 -120, is that as good as the 770XXH?

    • @WTFSoCal
      @WTFSoCal Před 4 měsíci

      Yesssa

  • @RandallRose1
    @RandallRose1 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Need help deciding what rail rod to get being on a budget. I have been looking at the Phoenix axis’s rod also Penn Carnage and Daiwa Proteus rod.. Out of these rod which would be best, any advice would be greatly appreciated… Avet 30

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před 11 měsíci

      All solid options! Nate at the tackle shop would be super happy to help you dive into the specs for what you’re looking for. You can reach the landing at 619-222-1144 and option 2 gets you to the tackle shop 😊

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před 11 měsíci

      Nate is partial to the proteus and Steve was super impressed at it’s performance during the video!
      The phenix ones are nice but a little pricey in comparison. Overall we’d suggest the proteus

  • @alexbrown4507
    @alexbrown4507 Před 10 měsíci

    Hey, you labeled one of the rods wrong. People are going to think the Diawa proteus 80- unlimited is what your talking about. The rod your using is the Diawa Proteus TUNA SPECIAL rod. Hope this helps

  • @jerrdirt
    @jerrdirt Před rokem +1

    What reel do you have paired with the Daiwa Proteus?

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem

      If I were going to pair a reel with the Proteus and try to stay in a similar price range I would probably go with the Speedmaster 20

  • @Tony67032
    @Tony67032 Před rokem

    what are your thought on the phenix axis 720 h2x and h3x ?

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem

      I have a 720 HX and I like it just fine! Good action on it.

  • @arashrazavi9595
    @arashrazavi9595 Před 2 měsíci

    Hi, what is the exact model of the Proteus rod? Is it the Tuna Special? Thanks.

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před 2 měsíci

      Prtb74xxxhf
      Proteus boat rod 3x
      7’4”
      80-unlimited line
      They also just came out with a new 2x that’s badass and more geared towards a saltiga 55-60size reel

  • @zachchen1
    @zachchen1 Před rokem

    Are there left hand reels avaliable for the rental rods?

  • @Tothewhip57
    @Tothewhip57 Před rokem

    So what would be the mid-range line test rating 80- Unlimited rod? What would Unlimited equate to?

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem +1

      Nate from the tackle shop says: Unlimited pretty much means you’re not gonna be able to bottom it out at any point. Technically for most people I’d say the majority of rods rated 150 and up are unlimited. The taper is aggressive so you won’t run out of backbone fishing any line class.

    • @Tothewhip57
      @Tothewhip57 Před rokem

      Thanks for the great and susccint explanation.

  • @alancolin8565
    @alancolin8565 Před 9 měsíci

    Thoughts on fishing syndicate rods?

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před 9 měsíci +1

      In my experience, they have really wide ratings per rod & I don't think they always hold up to the high end of that capacity. I'd recommend sizing up if you go that route. That's just my opinion though!

  • @alexiscpsnare
    @alexiscpsnare Před rokem

    I just bought a Loomis rail rod last minute. Am I able to come in and have you guys check it out, tell me what would be the right application for it or if I should get something else?

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem +1

      Absolutely! You can reach H&M at (619) 222-1144 option 2 for the tackle shop, and ask for Nate! 😊

    • @alexiscpsnare
      @alexiscpsnare Před rokem

      @@FishTheLegend right on! Thank you!

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem +1

      I gave him a heads up that you’ll be calling!

  • @user-jc4yv7eg7c
    @user-jc4yv7eg7c Před rokem +2

    Seeker SSR 2x3

  • @marshalllai6479
    @marshalllai6479 Před rokem

    How long are these rods you aere comparing?

  • @mauriceescobedo307
    @mauriceescobedo307 Před 5 měsíci

    Why no calstars?

  • @tonywestover9610
    @tonywestover9610 Před rokem

    United composites for the win

  • @Deepimpactocean
    @Deepimpactocean Před 19 dny

    What does “1x3” or “3x5” mean on the seeker rods?

    • @joseortega6358
      @joseortega6358 Před 19 dny

      On the Seeker rail rods the numbers represent the power
      For example 1x3 means a XH tip power to XXXH butt power. So 3x5 would mean XXXH tip to a XXXXXH butt power. Hope that helps 11:47

  • @user-xm3ux6es3h
    @user-xm3ux6es3h Před 4 měsíci

    steve hope yall doing ,

  • @ultragash3673
    @ultragash3673 Před 11 měsíci

    What # is that glass display counter rated at?

  • @pepperjack-ue7dc
    @pepperjack-ue7dc Před rokem

    Phenix axis 60-130 lb thanks

  • @matthewbaca8150
    @matthewbaca8150 Před 2 měsíci

    No Calstar?

  • @cesargonzalez8081
    @cesargonzalez8081 Před měsícem

    Anyone got any of the Graftech rail rods I need an honest review I see them in a lot of tackle shops and I’m planning a couple trip this year I was thinking about pairing it with a Penn fathom or seeing if I can find a used international. I don’t want to spend over 700 rod and reel

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před měsícem

      They are tried and true on many long range boats in the H&M fleet. They are designed by a local long range fisherman specially to tackle the fishery we have here in San Diego and south.
      Decent guides and components and a decent rod for the price. Other options in that quality and price range would include the Okuma pch and the Daiwa proteus 2x rail rod.

  • @crispowell9169
    @crispowell9169 Před rokem +1

    How about Phoenix Rods?

  • @NorthweSteelheadJunkies
    @NorthweSteelheadJunkies Před 8 měsíci

    The higher end rods not mentioned in this video is less material, are much lighter, and have a higher recovery rate then any of the rods featured in this video.

  • @captjohnsmith8595
    @captjohnsmith8595 Před 10 měsíci

    I'm waiting for the milk crate to go thru the glass case...

  • @frankabulon5615
    @frankabulon5615 Před 4 měsíci

    What's the name of the store?

  • @so.ca.desertlife6229
    @so.ca.desertlife6229 Před rokem

    Hey Steve or cat
    Just a heads up you are getting bashed on bloodydecks did not know where else to give you a heads up.

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem +5

      Thanks for letting us know, but we’re happy to keep providing content for the people who find it valuable. We’ve received a lot of positive feedback about our channel helping a lot of fishermen, so we’re just going to keep our head down and keep doing our thing 😊 block out the haters, as the youngsters say haha

    • @so.ca.desertlife6229
      @so.ca.desertlife6229 Před rokem

      @@FishTheLegend Sorry I should have clarified. Not about the channel about the boat.

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem +5

      Unfortunately some people can not handle when fishing slows down or they get skunked. And while we take all complaints seriously the unfortunate truth is all boats will get occasional complaints from people like that. I did look into the thread you referenced and I can tell you that his complaint is extremely exaggerated to the point that some is just a lie. We appreciate the heads up though and plan to keep offering what believe is a top notch customer service on a beautiful fishing platform.

  • @bakayo2
    @bakayo2 Před rokem

    Phenix Black Diamond Hybrid X2H X3H and X4H would be great. If not the single middle of the road X3H might be good :)

  • @bzbrian627
    @bzbrian627 Před rokem +1

    Penn Carnage III XXH 80-150

    • @bzbrian627
      @bzbrian627 Před rokem

      By the way love your channel and always have a tendency to rewatch all your videos. Thank you for putting these ideas and tips together!

    • @FishTheLegend
      @FishTheLegend  Před rokem

      That’s awesome! So glad you love the channel!

  • @David-hn5ix
    @David-hn5ix Před 11 měsíci +2

    I use a pc of bamboo

  • @stevepd1
    @stevepd1 Před 9 měsíci

    Funny, I've been catching BIG fish my whole life with $70 Ugly Stiks. Your rod shouldn't cost as much as a trophy fish weighs.

  • @shaundm78
    @shaundm78 Před rokem +1

    Megalodon

  • @user-ls1ov1np3t
    @user-ls1ov1np3t Před rokem +2

    How about fishing syndicate rod?

  • @mikeb9223
    @mikeb9223 Před 6 měsíci

    UC are amazing rods but their marketing is non existent. They will be left in the past soon unless they start getting on CZcams, social media etc etc.

  • @waynehearst317
    @waynehearst317 Před 11 měsíci

    anyone else from an era of men who didn't carry a Starbucks card in their wallet and would NEVER let that rod touch the rail....you stand there like a man and fight that fish. I used to remember some tournaments would disqualify you if you handed off the rod or used the rail...sheesh...

  • @kalocals3212
    @kalocals3212 Před rokem +1

    Calstar vs OSP?

  • @ren5043
    @ren5043 Před 9 měsíci

    lol graftech have been all my 3 digit killer for a long time.