Heavy Duty Gas or Diesel? Which Truck Is Best For You?
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No one ever mentions the payload advantage you get when going with a gas engine. Makes a big difference in my line of work.
That is a very important point
They did in this video 4:43 🤦🏻♂️
I worked as a Ford diesel tech and I always told people unless you tow often don't get a diesel because that extra 8k for the engine will buy you allot of gas or a new engine
JW Outdoor Yeah I'd rather spend an extra 5 minutes climbing the hill.
Can you define often? Is that a few times a year/month/week? I have watched a number of these videos and that seems to be the sentiment, go with diesel if you plan to tow often. I plan to tow long trips (1000+ miles) 2 times a year and short trips (200-300 miles) 3-5 times a year. The rest of the time is driving to/from work (15+ miles a weekday) in a city. Is diesel better for that?
Pay extra $8000 to get the diesel. Enjoy the extra power and more capable truck. Trade it off and get a extra $7500 because it's a diesel.
T4 Awesome how much weight anything over 12,000 a diesel. Gets bout same as gas now with EPA
+Richard Odom Not true, went in a sled trip and a new 18 F150 3.5 ecoboost averaged 5.2 mpg pulling 4 sleds My 16 Ram 2500 diesel got 11.3 pulling the same. No comparison in pulling mpg's
In the old days, diesels were simpler so they were easier and cheaper to maintain. And traditionally diesel fuel was cheaper than gasoline. Now diesels are far more costly to buy and maintain and diesel fuel is much more expensive. So, the scenario has flipped. Unless you are towing the heaviest of loads or tow routinely at higher elevations I think gas is a better and cheaper option. With the smarts that GM and others have added to gas engines in the last couple years I think you should do this video again.
I pondered getting a new diesel. Priced out a lower trim Silverado 2500 with a Duramax, had it optioned decently (nowhere near loaded) and landed right at $56000. Contacted a dealer, they were not interested in ordering the truck I configured and tried hard to get me to buy the LTs and High Country models they had on the lot for $10k more minimum. So I did what any logical guy would do: hunted down a '07 Silverado 3500 classic with a LBZ. Power to the people, don't be afraid to walk out of a dealership to find what you want.
It's amazing that dealers won't order vehicles for people spend don't that much
I would never buy a used diesel pickup truck. Too many people beat the hell out of them with tuners and mods.
These days it seems that only dealerships that do mostly fleet sales have base trim trucks in stock. The general consensus is that small town dealerships are more willing to make a sale.
rcairforceone I prefer the 90 to 02 looks the newer 1st gens with the slanted headlights
I was super lucky to find a 36,000 mile "summers only" '04 F250 XLT 2WD crew cab with V-10 here in MI, with absolutely no rust, even under the chassis. It pulls our 10,000 lb (loaded) toy hauler travel trailer without a problem. I can watch the gas gauge move when towing up a long hill on the freeway, but as few miles as I put on it, the impact is low. I'd love to have a newer F250, but I can't justify that kind of investment sitting in the garage most of the time, not to mention what the cost per mile would be using it less than 2000 miles per year (stored winters).
Everyone loves diesel until they have to pay to fix one.
David CD truer statements have never been said. wait until they find out that there are two cooling systems. lol. and that there oil change went from 29.99 to 299.99
+Justin Davison The 67,500 mile emissions servicing for a Cummins 6.7L is about $1,200 alone. THAT'S A SERVICE! Imagine what it'll cost when (Not if) it breaks on you!
+JackZakowski I was just thinking about that. I own a 6.7L, and I had that servicing done over a year ago. Like everything, it's cheaper at an independent shop. I had my truck done for ~$800, but that was just the CCVF and EGR system. If you combine that with the other recommended servicing around that interval, it'll be over $1,000, even at an Independent diesel shop. I bet a dealer would charger ~$1,500 or more for everything.
JackZakowski do all 6.7 cummins engine need that service
+DuhGreaT I believe all the pickup bodies do. I'm not sure about the commercial chassis. They have EGR and crankcase filters like the pickups, but it might be a littler different for them.
It's a matter of preference and what you really need. I personally don't like Chevy, but that doesn't make it a lesser truck. Any vehicle could perform and last a long time if kept up with proper maintenance; I hate it when idiots go "Ford sucks" or "Chevy sucks" shut up and buy what you want.
Well, they both suck. Go Dodge Ram. lol I'm just screwing with ya man. Good valid point.
WQQKIE exactly, I'm definitely a Chevy driver myself but I can appreciate Ford's style or their performance. And even though I am a Chevy driver, there IS a reason Ford is the top selling vehicle manufacturer in North America
WQQKIE THANK YOU!
True lmfao
Chevy and Ford are fine. But if we all want to be honest here then we need to recognize that Chrysler has been historically shitty and Fiat doesn't seem to be helping.
Yeah, ok range. But you can buy a hell of a lot of gas for $9,000. I will stay with the gas pusher. I don't tow or haul enough to justify the overhead cost of a diesel.
Great video guys, I like the image quality and the farm background, keep on making this great videos!!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Yes, I second TFLs answer: it depends on each particular customers needs. Everything in life has pros and cons with it. Initial cost, maintenance cost, major intended use, everyday drivability, typical road conditions, etc, it all influences on whats better (for you).
Great insight guys, keep it up.
It’s funny because a gas engine today will pull just as well as a diesel from the late 90s, early 2000s. (Given the transmission ratios, more gears). I used to be guilty of slamming 3/4 ton gassers, then I took a step back and thought logically. I need a half ton, but would like the durability and longevity of HD parts; get an HD gasser.
Lol that’s how your brain works? By that assessment, a modern diesel pulls 3x as good as a diesel truck from the 90’s too, and 6-8x better than a gas truck from the 90’s. Hilarious.
@@JJR1371 and 1/2 as reliable than a diesel from the 90s. Hilarious
Nice rundown on the differences and advantages of both types of engines. Thanks!
You guys always make the best car and truck reviews.
I love diesels, not a fan of the newer ones do to the emissions but man I have to give my 03 Silverado 5.3 some credit I have put that thing through some brutal hell and it’s still pulling like a brute. Never underestimate an ole gasser lol
Will you guys be able to do MPG runs without a trailer, but with max payload on new half ton and 3/4 or 1 ton trucks?
I'd like to see you do a head to head gas comparison with each make using manual shifting to keep the motors in their power band. I think we would all be surprised by the results. That's why they have that option.
Have a 2012 F-350 6.2L flex fuel, Srw 4x4, 430 rearends and it pulls my 14,680lb fifth wheel with no problem in mountain terrains and rolling hills, put the towhaul on and it works great up and down hills. Must understand that bought used. It was used in the oil fields west Texas. The truck still looks good and runs great.
I have a 2011 f350 with the 6.2 pulls great
Economically Diesels do not make sense any more. However if you tow heavy regularly it may be worth the extra money to you. Just don't believe you will ever make up for the initial high cost of the diesel engine.
Higher maintenance costs, plus the fact that diesel is often not the cheaper fuel anymore means the old method of making up for the initial cost in mpg is no longer valid.
Diesel was good until EPA had to ruin it so now I'd opt for the gas
Sad but true
All the emissions crap has choked up the diesels so the get worse mileage than they used to.
@@DavidSmith-bt5zn
EPA has helped automakers sell more cars. If cars last half as long because of emissions then that is twice the income from new truck sales.
Thanks Guys, this was very helpful!
Excellent review of gas vs diesel! Helped tremendously in our decision
I have a 2014 GMC Sierra SLT 2500 4x4 CBSB with the 6.0 Vortec. Great engine/trans in terms of reliability. I'm averaging 14.5 MPG (Not towing/hauling) using Chevron 87 octane gas and a K&N drop in air filter. The truck has more than enough torque (90% of 380 @ 2000 rpm) to get around with authority and to move 12,000lbs loads. Just want to give people an idea of real world numbers.
yeah, that flat torque curve on the 6.0 makes it PERFECT for towing.
"Which truck is best for you?"
The one that runs!
Diesel is good for extreme day to day heavy towing and hauling but if you have light work and want to use it as family car go for the gas.
Wow!! You guys just sold it for me! We just purchased a 32'TT and live in California. We have a 6.0L Yukon XL(gas), and were considering purchasing a diesel truck. Were kinda concerned with diesel because we just got rid of a 2010 diesel R350 because it could not pass smog(only in California..) But this video is having me lean more towards keeping my Yukon. Was not too fond of maintenance cost..but the MB rode great with lotta torque. Also my Yukon is paid off, and was not too fond of dropping $55k on a pre-owned...$70k+ for new.
Been watching you guys for a long time. But I think it’s time to do a video on half ton pick ups!!! 😁
I have a 2013 f350 and 2500 chevy for work both gas and both have performed very well. They don't talk about diesel fuel is 40-50 cent more and when they do break down its expensive.
Those Ford 6.2s and gm 6.0s are damn near bulletproof. I'd be willing to say they could almost last as long as a diesel
Well let's see, the 6.4 Ford, the 6.7 Ford, the LML Dmax and the 6.7 Cummins will all either be worn out or cost you a fortune in repairs by 250k miles. So yeah, the new gas engines with proper maintenance will not only last as long but probably longer than a newer diesel.
Great Vid guys! I love diesel.....but for everyday driving gas is just a lot more practical
good video thanks. makes me happier about my gas truck purchase honestly.
Ok so I just sold my 2018 Silverado 2500 high country for a 2015 Silverado 2500 LT with a gas 6.0 and I couldn’t be happier! My travel trailer I mainly tow only weighs 6500 lbs. but is 33’long and really tall so the wind pushed around any half ton I used. It’s the perfect recipe for me to have a truck that is half the price to own and maintain.
Good breakdown as usual guys. There is a lot to consider when it comes to buying s new truck.
This was interesting to me, I am considering either the Silverado with the 6.2 or the Ram 2500 Cummins. I have a heavy foot and enjoy quick acceleration but having a truck that can tow anything I will ever own is tempting.
gas for my needs especially that honking dodge 2500 2wd regular cab super sweet
For fun, diesel but for day to day gas bc I don't haul anything heavy
What happened to the Ask Mr. Truck? Keep up the good work guys.
Thanks guys for doing H D trucks I have F-350 with 6.2 gas motor it’s great truck I tow 35’ fifth wheel and have no problem I had 2005 SD 350 with the V-10 WOW love love that motor what great truck but I’m waiting for the new 7.3 gas motor so that will in the fall anyway thanks
My brother had a 6.4L Power Stroke which he bought new, and it didn't get any better MPGs as a gas engine. The 6.4L diesel was only getting 12.5-14 MPGs unloaded, and got about 6-8 MPGs while towing with the stock tune and tire size.
Just bought a 2015 Chevy Silverado 2500HD gas. I don't tow a lot. Mostly, boats, trailer, and the occasional tractor. I was looking at a diesel, but I didn't want to deal with extra maintenance or extra cost. These trucks are not Prius, they drink gas no matter what. My chevy has the flex fuel engine. This makes a great difference. The bottom line, it cost me .24 a mile with flex fuel (103 octane) and .35 a mile with 91 octane gas (I live in Cali). I literally save 53.00 dollars with E85 every time I fill up. I am very happy with the Gas Chevy. As you said, it also sounds cool!!
What happened to testing the 2017 F250 6.2 gaser
I tow a 7,000lb travel trailer and my 2015 F150 5.0 does everything I need it to do which includes daily driving!
Whenever you do a comparison between gas and diesel, cost has to be a factor. Initial cost, cost of fuel and maintenance.and then the longterm cost of major repairs. When money is not a factor, the diesel will almost always perform better. But if you are buying an HD truck and you know realistically that you probably won't tow something more than 10-20 times a year, you have to evaluate the extra expense of the diesel. I find diesels to be amazing trucks but I know that when I get an HD truck I will probably tow less than 10 times a year so for me it will definitely be a gasser.
I really like the 6 litre vortec. I have one in my work truck it is likes gas but it has a surprising amount of power
Is gas really that bad on it?
Thank you.
Could you do a video on the Chevy Cruze turbo diesel car. Thinking about getting one.
I praise you for stating they're two completely different models base vs full loaded
I love ALL trucks! But having been a Nissan owner since the late 80s, and owning two previous Titans, I went with the heavier than 1/2 ton Titan XD Diesel and couldn't be happier. The point is, buy what YOU like and need. Had I needed to haul 15k lbs frequently, i'd have looked into a heavier duty truck. People buy trucks for MANY reasons, one being a comfort zone or familiarity. At over 13k miles so far, I love this truck.
Joenissan you are always on point. I just purchased a 2017 Titan XD Pro 4x with the Cummins turbo diesel. Hauled at least 6k behind it more than not. The most I have hauled is around 7500# and so far and this truck didn't even break a sweat. The XD gets a bad rap but once you own one and understand why Nissan placed it where it did, it becomes crystal clear of the reasoning. I didn't need a full 3/4 ton but needed more capability that the average 1/2 ton provided. I understand that the F150 will tow up to 11,500 or in that neighborhood (I don't have the exact number in front of me but you get the idea) but the XD will do it everyday all day. That is what separates trucks. Is the XD better than everything out there? Why no, but if you tow what it is meant to tow it is an excellent option. I really believe that the XD's capacity is conservatively rated. My XD came with a lifetime powertrain warranty-so that debunks the diesel has a higher repair cost than gas argument in my particular example. As far as the domestic 3/4 ton gas vs gasoline- I haul lots of trailers and would find myself better suited for the diesel. The keyboard warriors that state oh gas is better than diesel, blah, blah, blah and diesel cost more, blah , blah, blah really aren't giving the full story. I bet if someone gave them the difference in cost between the diesel and gas burner they would choose the diesel. It is just like people who try to justify buying a metric cruiser over the Harley. I get the metric cruiser my be a better bike but the resale, nostalgia and sheer reasoning I just own a Harley wins every time. Deep down in they will never say it but they really wanted the Harley!
joenissan I am really looking at the XD’s as well. I REALISTICALLY don’t need the 15k+ of towing capacity, although the power would be nice. I wish the payload was a little closer to the 2k range in the Pro-4X. If I can tow a 25-30’ snowmobile trailer without having wind wagging the dog, and pull a 10,000lb boat, I’ll be happy!
joenissan please tell me more about mpg of the V8 CUMMINS
I had a 2017 F250 with the 6.7 while my 15 2500 6.6 was in the shop.. My 15 on a cold day the heater throws out hot air a lot faster then the 17 F250 I had for a week.. Plugging in the F250 made no noticable difference
unloaded mpg loops would be awesome for HD. Did it in the ram but no others.
I also live in Colorado. We have travel trailer but we only use it a few times in the summer. Since the truck will be my daily commute, I'll have to go gas
I agree with you guys. I love Diesel engines but they are very expensive to buy and up keep. Thanks again for another great video.
Good topic😊
If you hope to hold onto a versatile truck (Towing, Offroad fun, and daily driver)for life and put 400,000+ miles on it with proper care and maintenance, would the gas or diesel be the more durable choice?
I am trying to figure out what truck would be the best for a truck camper with a lot like 100 gallons of water plus the weight if the camper and gear. have you guys done anything like that? I can't find it. was considering the Toyota pro
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I got that exact Silverado. love love love the 6.0 vortec... pulls my 30foot Avion/9000lbs all day at 75mph. smooooooth. 4:10 gears. will do a cold Air intake. adds 20hp. without trailer on freeway at 75 cruise control im getting 18mpg. had a 12' ram 5 .7 bfr this. new Chevy so well made. just feels like a high quality machine.
Don't waste your money on a CAI bro it doesn't add that much horse, but it WILL decrease your gas mileage. Ive had 3 of em
gasser all the way I have a 6.0 Chevy dually and it's a beast
I got the 6.0, because I hear nothing but good about it.
I seen a ram 3500 with a 5.7 hemi the other day, I was offended.
Kolt C I owned 2 at one point
They should have put a 6.4 hemi in it
THE SQUAD 2 mine were pre 6.4. One being an 04 one an 08. The 6.4 would have been preferred of course.
yea and your point? chevy put the 6.0 vortec in a 1 ton dually too...with 4.10 or 4.55 rear end its fine...it about gearing and torque and the hemi has plenty
Yea. It just defeats the purpose of buying a big truck.
Which would I choose? lol
I own both a V-8 gas Dodge 1500 (4x4) and a V-6 diesel (eco-diesel). I can't get myself to part with my old Dodge with the gas motor (such a good truck now for over 15 years) but I bought the 2015 eco recently to pull our travel trailer. I sure hope it does well and I didn't buy a headache (and pocketbook drainer!). Thanks for the great video - pretty well sums things up all right!
Andre! What if you keep that new 2500 gas silverado for your truck as a change of the old 2500 hd diesel?
Great advice. The cost difference Between diesel and gas vehicles is a lot less in the used marketplace. My truck is going to be a daily driver but pulling a camper on the weekends. I don’t think upgrading to diesel would be in my best interest.
I own a cummins. It is great. Just shy of 21mpg on the road. But, in winter time, it takes 30 minutes to get the window defrosted, me as well. But for the most part, I don't tow much, and it gets me over the mountain every day. I would love to get late model gas for bennefits all around other than fuel mileage.
Looking to get into a new truck Nathan, options are titan xd diesel or chevy 2500 with gas. Going be overlanding, pulling a boat, and along with hunting. What would you suggest, currently in a 2012 titan but 5 foot box is killing me.
IMO the Ford looks better. Either way i can't afford either.
Did you guys ever get that base model gas F-250 from Ford? Was really interested how it is.
When I buy my truck it will be a Gas truck, Diesel is very nice but like Andre said the maintenance costs just don't make sense; unless that is you tow heavy for a living.
Notice how similar the exterior cabs of both trucks look, especially the grilles. Ford's complete redesign obviously included substantial styling cues from the Chevy. I like the look of both. My F250 has the thirsty V-10, but I only use it to haul our toy hauler or big boat maybe a total of 2000 miles per year (stored winters).
I'd love to hear more about towing a cargo box trailer or camper. Mpg with gas vs diesel on the new trucks. I keep seeing posts about diesel only getting 2mpg better than gas towing
Do you guys have a daily driver test for midsize and up trucks.
One thing I don't think you mentioned is the higher resale value of the diesel when it comes time to sell. Most time the initial higher cost can be recouped on the back end.
Diesel if your truck makes you money, gas if you daily drive it and tow once in a while.
I had a ram turbo diesel 2009ish and i got 630 miles(on highway) and 500 miles(in the city) on a single tank, (was chipped) but that is way more than any gas truck will get. Plus it still had power so no compromises. Only costed 16 grand to buy, its well worth the price if you ask me, and no DEF stuff, it would roll coal if you put your foot down.
Can y'all do your 100 mile mpg loop with that f-250 powerstroke empty as in not towing anything? I'm Interested in seeing if it will get comparable mileage to the cummins as we get mid 20s empty on the highway with ours.
Next week my 2018 2500HD Denali, goes into production. Studied a lot, got a 6.0, almost 63,000 list. Initial cost of diesel didn't really scare me, the upkeep and future repair did! We will see, if I made the right decision!
Did you end up making the right decision? Do you still have it?
These guys must be smoking too much of the local stuff out there in CO. "The diesel absolutely trounces the gas for fuel mileage" Really? I traded my 2007 GMC 3500 6.0L for a 2012 3500 Duramax. My gas truck got 15mpg empty and the diesel gets about the same. I can get better with the diesel IF I'm in absolutely no hurry. But if I step it up some on the interstate, the Dmax may only get 14mpg. The gas truck pretty much got the same mileage no matter how you drove it. And I'd be shocked if any of the new diesel trucks beat 15mpg empty or 10 towing.
Towing: I could tow anything I hooked to with either truck. I've grossed 40k with the gas truck and got decent mileage, maybe 8-9mpg. I've also pulled lighter loads and worked it hard to maintain highway speed and seen as low as 4.5mpg. The Dmax will pull anything and usually get about 9-10mpg loaded but I've pushed it as low as 6-7 as well.
Maintenance: Pretty much zero on the gas truck for 105k miles. Diesel - one thing after another and NOTHING is cheap. The government's Tier 4 BS has ruined diesel trucks. Period. Diesel trucks used to be very dependable and durable and ran a long time with very little maintenance. Now there's always something wrong with them. Myself and everyone i know have been stranded by our diesel trucks at some point, which used to be almost unheard of.
Day to day: You can gas up anywhere but you'd better buy your diesel somewhere that you trust to have good fuel. Then add fuel additives to keep from gelling up in the winter and use a fuel treatment year round to take care of your gold plated diesel fuel system.
I haul for a living and thinking very seriously about going back to a gas truck. About the only thing holding me back is getting a pickup and large trailer to a gas pump nowadays. Modern gas stations have gone absolutely out of their way to keep larger combination vehicles out of the gas pump islands.
Hey guys, I have a question? I work 120 miles from home, for the last year I have been driving my 2017 ram tradesmen 5.7 hemi, crewcab with a short bed while towing a 3750 lb. travel trailer to stay in for the week. I work at a place that has an rv park on location. I live in Bakersfield, Ca and travel to Ridgecrest, Ca. I go through Tehachapi, Ca. that has a 4% grade. I was thinking of going to a diesel because I have been making this weekly commute for a year now. Honestly I use a half a tank of fuel when pulling that trailer by the time I get to the rv park and vise versa going back home. I am going to upgrade in the near future for a larger rv.
I'm looking at purchasing a 3/4 ton truck and the one question no one ever seems to answer is whether it's cheaper to fill up on diesel with the longer range and better mpg or cheaper to fill up with gas with lower prices. For example towing a 8,000 lb travel trailer on a 3,000 mile trip. Will the over all cost for fuel be cheaper with a diesel or gas?
Agree with you all I bought gas Vortec Chevy 2500 saved me $10,000.00!
what about a gas engine with one or more turbos?
Doesn’t really matter now by how much you can tow and 1500 now can tow what a 2500 use too. Does the engines options make it easier to tow and more mph and better power sure. But there both capable to use gas and diesel to get the job done. Plus heavy duty gas trucks have been getting the job done in this country for years.
Just purchased a 3500 ram gas engine. It came down to the amount of time I would be using it for towing. I tow a 30ft rv for recreational use. It was really hard to choose due to my friends pushing me to purchase Diesel.
can you test gas vs diesel same manufacture and f350 to f350 or f250 to f250
I have a '99 Ram 1500 HD that is hard to get rid of. I want a new HD truck, but everyone tells me to keep my old truck. It's very reliable with tons of upgraded HD parts. Mileage sucks, but I never really care about that. $70,000+ is a hefty price for a diesel. Looking at the 6.2 Ford and the 6.4 Ram gassers. My 5.9 does fine with 303K on the dial. Just hard to part with. Thanks for another great truck comparison!
On occasion I tow 8k. I've got an 08 lmm
I bought it with 52k miles on it 3 years ago. I've put 20k on it so far. Haven't had an issue since. Also maintaining your vehicle is going to help prolong the life of it. Gas vs diesel. Diesel, cause I'd rather have piece of mind that I'm not maxing out my truck every time I tow.
When you mentioned range, that's where the Ford with the gas engine outshines the other two. A 48 gallon fuel tank for the medium and long wheelbase truck!! I wish the other brands offered bigger tanks. The Ram Powerwagon would definitely benefit a larger tank.
My Silverado has a 36 gallon tank. I was looking into 50 gallon tanks, but options are few and far between for gas trucks. I couldn't even imagine the early 2000's 2500 silverados with 26 gallon tanks! At least I can get 250-300 miles towing my travel trailer.
can y'all do a ford roush review
The big three also have "heavy duty" transmissions for their gas trucks. The driveability is a mute point with intake heaters and VG Turbos. You guys never talked about brackets of weight to pull, or put in sliders for how far someone plans on pulling weight. For instance, if I pull 20k lbs but only pull the load 20 miles or less (hauling livestock from one pasture to another) then a gas model is perfect for that. But if I pull weight on interstate, then diesel starts to become more enticing. Are you guys ever going to think out your videos before shooting them?
Exactly
great video more work truck videos
+Kevin Stark will do.
I used to drive a late 90's 1 ton Dodge Cummins for work. The turbo went out coming back to L.A. from Ventura...all my diesel fun ended real fast. Then Chevy started kicking ass with those early Duramaxes and I had diesel envy again. But these days I've reassessed. Regulatory requirements have ruined diesels. And I honestly feel diesel's days are numbered in California. So, I have a 2016 Silverado 2500hd flex fuel gasser and it does everything I need. It's actually a lot faster than people claim. I hit 0-60 in 8 seconds. Why would I want an HD truck to go faster? It's for towing, not racing.
I have a 1/2 ton with I believe 3.21 gears towing an 8000lb travel trailer. I get 8-11mpg while towing. The engine is definitely strong enough but I’m worried about gas mileage. If I upgraded to 3/4 gas, would my mileage increase any? If I went diesel, how much better would it be?
I have a 2016 Chevy 2500HD with the 6.0 gas. Yes, the Duramax would be nice, but just can't justify the costs. It would take around 100K miles for the fuel savings to outweigh the cost of the truck, not including the maintenance costs.
Tommy's Project Silverado I got the same truck Tommy! love it!! what performance upgrades u recommend. I dnt want the Dreaded Drone' frm an exhaust. thinking cold Air intake. love it stock but a lil more power always nice eh.
Tommy's Project Silverado see
Buy I also notice that Gm has a higher base price on diesels also so it’s much more than just the e gone and tranny cost
Being that you see so so so many 3/4 and 1 ton trucks pulling 12' uhaul trailers, one is left to assume the vast majority buy diesel to supplement other short comings. Just about the only place you see trucks really getting used are at small construction companies, and the rodeo / race car circuit. I believe we as Americans have been stupid and allowed corporations to place such a high value on diesel. I own both diesel and gas. If I didn't have a need to pull 15k + I wouldn't own a diesel. The 6.0 LS, 6.2 Ford, and 6.4 Mopar are fine motors and aren't given the credit due. And by the way RAM owners, you left your tow mirrors out. You aren't towing and no one kicked a field goal. Put them down.
John Parriott Even the 5.0 Coyote has no trouble meeting its tow ratings. Small motor but a lot of grunt. Pulling my loaded 24' car hauler is almost too easy.
You feel the wiggle before you feel the weight, and that's mostly because it's just a big box.
dchawk81 personally, I'd still rather step up to a 3/4 ton just for the extra stability and hd parts. Mileage probably would suffer little if any.
Yes, but the video isn't about 1/2 ton vs 3/4 +. It's about GAS vs Diesel in the Class 2-3 lineups.
amv12vantage the only reason it wiggles at all is because I don't have a sway hitch. It only weighs 9200 pounds.
Or, and these are just ideas... size of tire, rating of tire, air pressure in said tire. Offset of rim in rear vs offset in front. Suspension. Height of truck, height of ball, trailer not being level. Tongue weight. Axles on trailer not in alignment. Axles on trailer too far forward.
Towing is tough. It's even tougher when you realize everything you need to spend money on to pull weight. Sometimes I wonder if it would've been cheaper to drive a car, live in an apartment, have just a cube farm job, and waste my days commenting on youtube.
I thought TFL was going to do a review on the Ford F-250 6.2 gas. Please do a towing test with the F250 6.2 gas.
+John Wesley The Ford 6.2L was delayed. We should get it soon.
can't wait to see the 6.2 ford and how it performs
The Fast Lane Truck I'd love to see you guys do a comparison of all three gas engine work trucks in one video
Leonard Alldread same drivetrain since '11, don't get to excited...
John Wesley they did!! it blew up on the test!! what ever happened TFL!?? Fan came off and destroyed radiator and belts and hoses..
both Ford and dodge have much larger gas engines in their HD trucks then the chevy. Why not discuss comparable mpg over time vs the savings up front on cost? that is the big factor in these things.
Kingsoupturbo Phhwew; from 6.0 to 6.4, a full 6.5%, that IS much larger🙄
The dodge and ford gassers are a lot more modern then the chevy, and larger displacement, more HP and TQ, it all boils down to cost (not to mention until recently Gas trucks sure smell a lot better then diesel)
What is better for higher altitude, gas or diesel? My girlfriend and I will be moving to Colorado in the next year or so, and I am in the market for a new truck.
One of the best videos on this subject. Diesel makes no financial sense unless you do real hauling, need the range, or are a diesel enthusiast. Between the higher price if diesel, the DEF costs, high initial cost, and potential repair costs of the all the modern diesel related components in this video, it makes very little sense. I am a diesel enthusiast, but I have to factor in that I will never haul that much weight and $9-10k can buy more petrol than I would save in diesel consumption.
Are you going to make a Truck nuts 2?
hey you guys need to turn around and do the Dodge Ford Chevy and new Nissan with a diesel engine in it and test all four of those ones and see which ones better between Diesel and gas
I've always wanted a diesel but just have never been able to get over the noise , smell, and exhaust put-out, so I've stuck with gas.
Depends... If you are towing under 9k and not too often... Gas would be the way to go. But towing anything consistently or if you have to tow something heavier... I would go with diesel. I have a 5th Wheel Tow Hauler that can weight up to 14k. I tried a Ram 2500 with the 6.4L V-8... That engine stressed me out. Body wise it was smooth and handled the load great. But any hill required the engine to be near redline all of the time, and even in the flats it needed to be in a high RPM. After 2 months I got rid of it and purchased the 2015 Ram 2500 6.7L. Now these new Diesel trucks are not as good as they used to be either with all the EPA "JUNK!!!" and the "nanny programming" they put in them. Now days they put the larger tires on them as stock, and now they also put 3.42 gears in them. Sure empty it is nice for MPG's. But for towing... No, not as nice since the engine is being lugged. I have dropped 2 MPG's towing the same camper from my 2007.5 MegaCab CRD 4x4 to my 2015 Crew Cab CRD 4x4.
Also with the DPF and EGR... How STUPID is the EPA?? EGR is designed to return exhaust gas to reduce the temperatures of combustion... But to keep the DPF clean or to do a Regen.... They are running the temperature of the exhaust lot higher than the older trucks(hence higher combustion temps)... Doesn't that just nullify what the EGR is supposed to do?? Plus now you are burning more fuel, you have less power, less longevity since you are making your engine suck its own poo, and more maintenance.
Sure your emissions drop at the truck level, but more pollution is created when they make the Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel that you need more of. It is like a Prius... Sure great MPG's, but to create the batteries needed you are killing the environment even more than running a standard car. So much for "Saving the planet".
You'll never convince me that it's better for the environment to produce and burn 1.5x the fuel to go the same distance with the same load. Not to mention the DEF fluid production itself. Emissions garbage is out of control.
Man it's all money, you know that
diesel is highly toxic to the environment and the fragile capillaries in your lungs. the EPA is trying to do their best to eliminate diesels and put more focus in heavy duty gas powered trucks that's why I Ford spent over a billion dollars in their new 7x big block gas powered development, without the EPA Ford would never have spent that money for that new development. it's good for you and good for the environment
I’m going with the PowerStroke 3.0 in the new F-150 because it’s a truck that I am willing to own and maintain for 15+ years. More difficult to do that with gas.
What would be better for hotshot a diesel or gas heavy duty truck