The Failure Of Windjammer Surf Racers: The End Of TOGO International | Expedition Knott's Berry Farm

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  • From super coaster to super failure, this is the fraught history of Knott’s shortest-lived, least-coveted steel loopers. A ride which caused the end of TOGO International. The Failure Of Windjammer Surf Racers: The End Of TOGO International | Expedition Knott's Berry Farm
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    Video Credits (in alphabetical order)
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    Brah
    • Point Break: Ride The ...
    Bryan Ochoa
    • Ochoa's at Knott's Ber...
    Cedar Point Fanpage
    • Jack Falfas: Cedar Poi...
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    • Knott's Hammerhead Onr...
    Coaster Jeff
    • Viper at Six flags Gre...
    CoasterNick3157
    • Manhattan Express (AKA...
    • Xcelerator At Knotts B...
    Coaster Studios
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    Commercial Break Room
    • Knott's Berry Farm Com...
    • Knott's Berry Farm Com...
    dangelovich
    • Ultra Twister at Nagas...
    davidjellis
    • Crazy Mouse (off-ride)...
    Eccentric Gamer
    • Knott's Berry Farm 201...
    Javier Martinez
    • Xcelerator rollback
    joezeppi
    • Riptide ride at Knott'...
    Looping Lee Theme Parks, Roller coasters and more
    • Dangai Looper Roller C...
    miriammemories
    • Knott's Berry Farm,1995
    Mr63500
    • KNOTTS BERRY FARM THEM...
    NickSpace
    • California Poppy Super...
    MiceChat
    • Knott's Berry Farm - B...
    psyclonesteve
    • King Cobra,Stand Up Ro...
    REMEMBER HORIZONS
    • Knott's Berry Farm Sky...
    Ryan120420
    • Hammer Head Knotts Ber...
    Sean Flaharty
    • Video
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    ThemeParkAdventure
    • Knott's Scary Farm's C...
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    • Knott's Pacific Pavill...
    Theme Park Patrol
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    Theme Park Review
    • Super Funktacular Roll...
    • Closed Looping Roller ...
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    • Knott's Berry Farm Cam...
    Todd Markel
    • Early Days of Surfing ...
    What a life!
    • Las Vegas building NY-...
    ZaneyMay Just Keep Planting
    • California Poppy - Fro...
    This episode was written and produced by Greg Tulloss
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Komentáře • 553

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Před 3 lety +254

    TOGO: We understand the concerns of our clients
    Knott's: *Are you sure about that*

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  Před 3 lety +22

      Hahaha yesssss

    • @badgerstatecoasters7725
      @badgerstatecoasters7725 Před 3 lety +9

      Why do you show up in every comment section that I watch?

    • @Toonamp
      @Toonamp Před 3 lety +3

      Because your limiting yourself to watching one kind of video and not broadening your horizons to different subjects?

    • @badgerstatecoasters7725
      @badgerstatecoasters7725 Před 3 lety +7

      @@Toonamp I watch other stuff beside roller coaster content and I see him everywhere

    • @Coolsomeone234
      @Coolsomeone234 Před 3 lety +5

      @@badgerstatecoasters7725 same

  • @Blast2224
    @Blast2224 Před 3 lety +122

    Knotts: We want a roller coaster.
    TOGO: Okay.
    Knotts: Make it functional.
    TOGO: ...what?

  • @Lil_Angry_Bitch
    @Lil_Angry_Bitch Před 3 lety +142

    The irony is that not only did Windjammer Fail, Knott's had another ride with "Wind" in the name that failed: Windseeker. Riders got stuck up in the air for 3 hours and they removed the ride. Knott's should not use "Wind" in the name of any of their rides.

    • @nubiansnowchic
      @nubiansnowchic Před 3 lety +9

      Oh wow! So that’s the windseeker that got stuck! Makes me wonder why ours (kings island and cedar point) are still operating!

    • @puppetuppers4806
      @puppetuppers4806 Před 3 lety +6

      nubiansnowchic the curse is only at knotts.

    • @Lil_Angry_Bitch
      @Lil_Angry_Bitch Před 3 lety +8

      @Luciferus After the ride got stuck, Cal-Osha required Knott's to come up with an emergency evacuation system for the ride. Knott's built an emergency evac platform for the ride but it didn't get approved so they had to demolish the ride.

    • @JimiStone
      @JimiStone Před 3 lety +4

      Knott's windseeker was moved to Cedar Fair park World's of Fun in Kansas City, MO!

    • @Courier_333
      @Courier_333 Před 3 lety +4

      I got stuck on that ride smh one of the scariest things I've been on

  • @MrMrMrprofessor
    @MrMrMrprofessor Před 3 lety +150

    Expedition: *mentions Togo*
    Me: Ohhh I remember them...which coaster was it..?
    Expedition: *shows the New York New York coaster*
    Me: Oh. Shit. No.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  Před 3 lety +22

      Here we go againnn

    • @ErrorWolf
      @ErrorWolf Před 3 lety +4

      I rode it...
      Yaa, being a Cedar Point guy, ouch

    • @richardbagley3139
      @richardbagley3139 Před 3 lety +4

      Why do I have to suffer with THAT one being my first thrill coaster... well that’s what you get for growing to a tweener in Vegas

  • @ZeroCreditsRemaining
    @ZeroCreditsRemaining Před 3 lety +60

    Did I see a reference to “windseeker is closed due to high winds”?

  • @shitwizard1247
    @shitwizard1247 Před 3 lety +96

    The best person for informing people about theme parks I never knew existed

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  Před 3 lety +12

      Ha thanks

    • @EnergyDot
      @EnergyDot Před 3 lety +13

      How did you not know about Knott's Berry Farm lmao

    • @fluffydevil13
      @fluffydevil13 Před 3 lety +7

      It’s worth the visit! It’s a 15 minute drive past Disneyland, and you can do everything there in one day.

    • @MagicalBread
      @MagicalBread Před 3 lety +6

      Knott’s is one of the most famous theme parks in the US. If you’re familiar with Cedar Fair parks like Cedar Point or Kong’s Island, than you’ll be surprised by this fact: Knott’s is Cedar Fair’s most profitable park. Knott’s accounts for at least a quarter of CF’s profits.

    • @flibberty100
      @flibberty100 Před 3 lety

      What’s up with wizard

  • @vabvaab
    @vabvaab Před 3 lety +36

    I went on this, that loop felt like being launched into a half pipe in a shopping cart. Cute looking coaster though.

  • @Emplordxiii
    @Emplordxiii Před 3 lety +35

    I take it Knott’s won’t be making a pin honoring this attraction for their 100th Anniversary pin set.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  Před 3 lety +15

      They might they don't shy away from the bad

    • @Emplordxiii
      @Emplordxiii Před 3 lety +3

      Expedition Theme Park it will be interesting, that’s for sure.

    • @briancalifornia
      @briancalifornia Před 3 lety +2

      I have a Windjammer hat and shirt lol

    • @robertoflores599
      @robertoflores599 Před 3 lety +2

      I went To their 100 year anniversary and they didn’t honor it lol they had sky jump, and soap box, time machine etc..

  • @singlerideradventures6621
    @singlerideradventures6621 Před 3 lety +26

    I never rode this, because it was always closed when I was there, but my friends always called it Neckjammer. It's too bad about the Boardwalk, as the rest of the park is beautifully themed, the back remains a mash up of 20's, 50's, and 90's.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah !

    • @thecoastergnome8603
      @thecoastergnome8603 Před 3 lety +3

      yeh I think it should get a partial re-theme, keep the boardwalk theme but make it look nicer and replace coast rider with an s&s El Loco

    • @BruinPhD2009
      @BruinPhD2009 Před 3 lety +2

      I agree. I like Knotts, but parts of it look like the planners just got bored halfway through a school project.

    • @gregorymoore2877
      @gregorymoore2877 Před 2 měsíci

      They should have stuck with the 20's airfield theme with the Corkscrew, Sky Jump Parachutes and Wacky Soapbox Pacers. Wouldn't been more interesting than what's there today.

  • @RolyWestYT
    @RolyWestYT Před 3 lety +45

    I don’t get why the advert for it was all “scary” when the ride is not scary themed at all?

    • @arposkraft3616
      @arposkraft3616 Před 3 lety +12

      in the ninetys all amusement park advertisements either had a dark or TOTAL RAD type of advertisement...

    • @bluedragon9925
      @bluedragon9925 Před 3 lety +6

      @@arposkraft3616 Yep. Just look at Splash Mountain's original ad (I know that was technically from the 80's but it was 1989 so I'm counting it since aspects of 90's pop culture were carried over from the late 80's anyways). Even though the ride itself is the usual light-hearted Disney fare, its ad had a very foreboding tone, with *heavy* emphasis placed on the big drop towards the end ("The only way out... Is a long... Way... Down...").
      I think the main reason they marketed it that way was not only to distract from the elephant in the room that was the problematic origins of its theme (being based on Song of the South and all), but make it more appealing to the "too cool for Disney" teenage thrill seeker crowd.

    • @TheOnlyBongo
      @TheOnlyBongo Před 3 lety +5

      @@bluedragon9925 Knowing Michael Eisner renamed it to promote the movie Splash and that he took theme park advice from his hip, cool, radical teenage son the latter feels more true than the former.

    • @MSTiekims9952
      @MSTiekims9952 Před 3 lety +1

      Well here I am looking at one of my fav channels for theme park fun, and I see that another favorite added a comment! Hi Roly! Love your channel! All my coworkers are tired of hearing me say Roly words with my horrible Brittish accent.

    • @mathiley0878
      @mathiley0878 Před 3 lety +1

      Imagine a park advertising a wacky worm like a scary ride

  • @HarryPorpise
    @HarryPorpise Před 3 lety +67

    I honestly want to ride a US Togo just to see how bad it is

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  Před 3 lety +35

      New York New York!

    • @DCLocal84
      @DCLocal84 Před 3 lety +38

      I've rode a Togo stand up in the late 90s... my balls still hurt.

    • @HarryPorpise
      @HarryPorpise Před 3 lety +9

      DCLocal84 maybe I won’t then...

    • @ThemeParkDaze
      @ThemeParkDaze Před 3 lety +11

      no you don't. I've been on 2/3 (this one and the NY NY one) and they're easily my least favorite coasters of all time.

    • @RSGReallySimpleGaming
      @RSGReallySimpleGaming Před 3 lety +3

      My dad lives in Vegas and im there right now, its awfully rough, but The Big Apple would be great if it wasnt!

  • @605coasters
    @605coasters Před 3 lety +39

    As I once saw someone say: The name is perfect. It jams up in the wind lol
    Great video btw

  • @landonsmith295
    @landonsmith295 Před 3 lety +21

    *kids talking about Ultra Twister at Six Flags Great Adventure*
    "Number 1 ride in the park, Number 1, they will never get a better one."
    *El Toro has left the chat*

  • @fifthrider
    @fifthrider Před 3 lety +26

    I love Knotts and am lucky I got to go on the Soapbox Racers, which I believe Bob Gurr developed. That corner of Knotts has always had an identity crisis ever since Soapbox Racers was removed; it never really knew what it wanted to be and thematically it never did it well. I was present on a day some 20+ years ago when a woman passed away on Montezuma's Revenge. At first the park was blamed but then we later learned she was a model and ate next to nothing. Her brain aneurysm was caused my malnutrition. Not long after that someone died on 19:42 the unfortunately named Perilous Plunge. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that woman was well over the weight limit and the restraints weren't working for her properly. Instead of being held in her seat at the top of the drop, she was catapulted out thus adding credence to the ride's name. I think about that every time I'm at a theme park and someone wants to argue with the ride operator that their kid should be allowed on despite the height limit, should be allowed on despite the fact they don't fit into the restraint system properly, etc. Please don't argue with the safety rules, people.

    • @rjkral
      @rjkral Před 3 lety +3

      Fifthrider very good points and I see it a lot. The safety measures are the LEAST folks can do to keep all these rides running safely and not be shut down, or worse bring on injury and the loss of life

    • @bryanmcclanahan532
      @bryanmcclanahan532 Před 3 lety

      Splash ride with ejector airtime vibes

    • @andrewbowser2794
      @andrewbowser2794 Před 3 lety +2

      I have to confess, I stuffed napkins in my shoes when I was a kid to ride on Hammerhead. No joke, we started flipping and i slipped out of the shoulder restraints and held on for dear life. My feet were kicking the heads of the people in front of me. The riders to the left and right of me were seriously concerned. Lesson learned from that day forward! Never went on that ride again because of the traumatic experience. I didn’t say a word. After hanging on for dear life the whole ride, the people in front and all around asked if I was okay.
      Long story short, I have kids now and never will they ride a ride until they meet the minimum height requirements. Period.

  • @kristalic
    @kristalic Před 3 lety +49

    West coast racers the prequel

  • @korwynias_yt
    @korwynias_yt Před 3 lety +18

    You know with all these problems coasters have with wind, easiest solution is just put up wind breakers. This ride would benefit with sails that blocked the wind in designated spots and also add to the surf theme.

    • @bryanmcclanahan532
      @bryanmcclanahan532 Před 3 lety +3

      Korwynias Wolfdrake or maybe add large fans to counter the wind. Might enhance the ride experience while combating... 3 mph winds 😂

  • @kylestrange4494
    @kylestrange4494 Před 3 lety +12

    Wind jammer was my first upside down coaster. Road it when I was 7 years old. Wow such good times

  • @madtownchris
    @madtownchris Před 3 lety +6

    Cool topic! A few corrections:
    10:14- Most wild mouse coasters feature individual cars, not trains.
    10:24- Viper was at Great Adventure, not Great America. And the shoulder restraints are totally different between the two rides.
    17:25- This is important. Only one TOGO Ride, Shockwave at KD, had a fatal accident in 1999. While that year was terrible for coaster and thrill ride accidents in the US, the only TOGO ride that had a fatality in 1999 was Shockwave.

  • @MatecaCorp
    @MatecaCorp Před 3 lety +20

    Windjammer was indeed in many ways emblematic of the worst era of Knott's Berry Farm. Lackluster theming, poor quality, bad maintenance, etc.

    • @CoderatheGreat
      @CoderatheGreat Před 2 lety +2

      To be fair we did get GhostRider the year after Windjammer came out so I guess we ought to take the good with the bad.

  • @ryandrew8075
    @ryandrew8075 Před 3 lety +4

    Its amazing they still operate the sky cabin.. i operated that ride nearly 20 years ago and it was barely holding on for life back then .. i even opened the service door to watch the internals crawl up the pole for people

  • @P-_-S
    @P-_-S Před 3 lety +8

    As we had just recently learned about what a codpiece was in British Literature class, this ride was infamously known as the “Codjammer” among my circle of friends in high school. In addition to the shoulder harnesses being incredibly painful, the seats on the train had a raised part in the groin region that... uh... jammed your cod, as it were. Rode it once, never wanted to ride it again. I was not at all surprised to see it ripped out just a few years later or to find out there were lawsuits filed . Such a shame too, it was a great concept and layout, but terribly designed and constructed. Best thing about it was the creepy carnival haunted house they had there during Knott’s Scary Farm. I am also eternally sad that they removed the Soapbox Racers for the Codjammer, I don’t blame them because it was indeed looking pretty haggard in its twilight years, but my nostalgia for it will always remain strong. The removal of the Soapbox Racers was made extra painful by the fact the replacement ride was so stunningly awful.

  • @dylanalgate8130
    @dylanalgate8130 Před 3 lety +52

    I’ve always loved the content on this channel. It’s always well done, always informational, doing it in a fun way. Being a theme park enthusiast, and not being able to go to any this year is hard, so I go to this channel and others but by far you are my favorite

  • @jahzd4028
    @jahzd4028 Před 3 lety +8

    If one day Cedar Fair finally decided to expand KBF, please make *Race to Atlantis* a reality. It's exactly what Knott's needs. More mountain theming and more indoor dark ride/coasters inside a mine.

    • @viccas9301
      @viccas9301 Před 3 lety

      Yes. Remove xcelerator and bring back the wacky soap box racers, or a journey to Atlantis type ride

  • @Onoitsbroko
    @Onoitsbroko Před 3 lety +20

    I'm still upset you don't have more subscribers. You're videos are so high quality and I always look forward to them!

  • @michaeldimitroulakos1307
    @michaeldimitroulakos1307 Před 3 lety +17

    The Manhattan Express coaster in Vegas is a heinous piece of machinery and must be destroyed. I hate that thing.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  Před 3 lety +3

      So bad

    • @OakViewFilms
      @OakViewFilms Před 3 lety +2

      Hopefully if it does ever go away, they replace it with something else. A Chance Morgan megalite or a Gerstlaur Infinity Coaster would make a great replacement.

    • @nu-agegamer3548
      @nu-agegamer3548 Před 3 lety

      Desperadont has already been shut down, so yay!

    • @richardbagley3139
      @richardbagley3139 Před 3 lety

      You don’t know how much pain I feel when that coaster was my first thrill coaster, I didn’t feel pain tho I’m endurable

  • @Agent_Volkat
    @Agent_Volkat Před 3 lety +8

    I remember the Windjammer. I rode it once with my family in 1997. I do remember it being a pretty rough ride, but aside from that I enjoyed it. Still got the souvenir photo lol

  • @andrewschannel4259
    @andrewschannel4259 Před 3 lety +12

    I want to go on something more thrilling than Looping Roller Coaster 1.
    If 2020 was a roller coaster, this would be it.

  • @alexlubbers1589
    @alexlubbers1589 Před 3 lety +3

    It's funny that they advertised Windjammer with a tornado, because I'd imagine that's what it felt like to ride it

  • @theresazubia
    @theresazubia Před 3 lety +2

    Ugh. The shoulder restraints on this ride were horrible! My ears and neck were bright red after I rode this the first time. After that, the ride kept breaking down because it was poorly made - thanks a lot, TOGO! Anyone miss the Soap Box Racers? That was the best ride back in the day, and they replaced it with this monstrosity!?!? Thank you, Expedition Theme Park for this trip down memory lane! :)

  • @ArtisticlyAlexis
    @ArtisticlyAlexis Před 3 lety +6

    Crazy! At 2:45 the listing just above the address you highlighted, was about a block down from my house growing up on Central Ave. in the small town of Middletown, Ohio.

  • @oneandonlysound3453
    @oneandonlysound3453 Před 3 lety +9

    I know that a big issue of American Togo coasters was steel manufacturing, the fact "Viper" at SFGADV was a random prototype they bought off the lot and "added rings" onto, etc. The thing I'll never got is how they didn't see a problem before this. Nor that the design was plain bad in areas like wth? They have actually made some really cool things-I'd LOVE to see an improved, non-maintenance nightmare Ultra Twister, and they made a pretty good hyper coaster. And a looping coaster at a smaller park not unlike Viper that isn't smooth but is longer and not legit painful like Viper was (if you didn't slouch on purpose), as some examples. The stand-ups would be fine if not stand ups too really, but that's me stand-ups=convert them to something else (SFOG I'm staring at you rn and GADV for sit-down too!)

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 Před 3 lety +2

      Never buy a prototype from a test site. King's Island or King's Dominion (I can't remember which) made that mistake with the Hypersonic XLC.

  • @apieceofpop424
    @apieceofpop424 Před 3 lety +2

    Honestly your channel is my new addiction and I’m forever grateful!

  • @RandiRain
    @RandiRain Před 3 lety +16

    I've only been to Knott's once, and I rode this thing... When it came to a stop, I can remember saying out loud how horrible it was. One of the only things I remember about my experience there. The other two was the wooden coaster there being fantastic, and the native American show was amazing. I wish someone would do a video on that.

  • @dljungleskip
    @dljungleskip Před 3 lety +2

    I remember all of these Knotts ads! Thank you for the 90s nostalgia trip, I was there opening day of Windjammer... the ride was awful.

  • @johnhaines9893
    @johnhaines9893 Před 3 lety +5

    A video on Roller Soaker at Hersheypark would be interesting, that ride didn’t last long.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  Před 3 lety

      Nice idea

    • @gregg5958
      @gregg5958 Před 3 lety +1

      I loved that ride! But I guess the maintenance problems on them was on par with Togo. I always thought Knott’s should have gotten one instead of Boomerang. It would have been awesome there, but in retrospect would have been yet another disaster I guess!

  • @frosticular
    @frosticular Před 3 lety +5

    i've seen a lot about windjammer and knott's in general since it's the closest park to me, but i've never heard someone mention that atlantis coaster before. i'm always learning something new when i see your videos! they're so well researched.

  • @JasonRasmussen
    @JasonRasmussen Před 3 lety +3

    I rode Wind Jammer. I knew it was bad the moment I went into the first loop. Glad it is gone. Very much miss the Wacky Soap Box Racers, and wish they would bring back a modern version of this. I also rode Xcelerator opening day. Boy did they check your restraints multiple times!

  • @bluedragon9925
    @bluedragon9925 Před 3 lety +2

    The first time I visited Knott's, this ride was already closed down, but hadn't fully started demolition yet. I remember ironically feeling bummed at the time that I missed the chance to ride it because all I knew about it back then was from pictures in books and on the internet (pre Social Media). After finding out just how rough it really was through CZcams videos and rider testimonials years after its closure, I now feel like I dodged a bullet...

  • @thetntraider
    @thetntraider Před 3 lety +2

    I’m gonna be honest, the Race to Atlantis ride idea actually sounded awesome.

  • @dalerobertson9394
    @dalerobertson9394 Před 3 lety +3

    Rode both red and yellow back in the day. Complete garbage. This is what happens when a park goes cheap. The flat rides where basically carnival rides. Wacky Racers was way better. Towards the end, Soabox Racers only ran 2 of the 4 tracks due to maintenance issues. I remember the day they told us as a former employee about the 5 year plan. The replacement was an utter failure. It was a sad ending to the Knotts family legacy, that I do believe resulted in the sale to Cedar Fair.

  • @rabidsmiles
    @rabidsmiles Před 3 lety +2

    Oh man it was soooo bad and the fact that it replaced the Wacky Soap Racers is a shame. That was one of the best rides ever.

  • @lemonbreadd4427
    @lemonbreadd4427 Před 2 lety +2

    i really like how the advertisement for windjammer used the same creaming effect 5 times

  • @amstuartc
    @amstuartc Před 3 lety +2

    Great video Sam - Enjoy your summer with Jackie (Super Enthused) over for some UK fun !!

  • @dannyortiz0406
    @dannyortiz0406 Před 3 lety +4

    Keep those videos coming :) always enjoy watching them.

  • @Typhabock
    @Typhabock Před 3 lety +9

    Got rid of an terrible coaster and replaced it with one of my most favorite coasters ever. I love the speed and the ability to look out over the city.
    I know one day you are gonna touch on Perilous Plunge and that will be a fun ride with a tumultuous story.

  • @caitlynking2660
    @caitlynking2660 Před 3 lety +8

    I love your videos, and binge them constantly. Keep it up!

  • @coastaku1954
    @coastaku1954 Před 3 lety +7

    8:57 (Assuming this was at Great Adventure) "They will never get a better one"
    El Toro: Hold my beer

  • @Lil_Angry_Bitch
    @Lil_Angry_Bitch Před 3 lety +8

    I was one of the few people who loved this ride. I loved the colours and the beach theming. I prefer Windjammer over Xcelerator which is an eyesore with little themeing.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  Před 3 lety +2

      Has a point

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 Před 3 lety +1

      Wasn't it rough or painful? And did you get the yellow side?

    • @andrewbowser2794
      @andrewbowser2794 Před 3 lety +1

      While I wouldn’t say i loved Windjammer, I do agree the theming of it was better than Xcelerator. From what I remember, which I was only 10 years old, it was pretty cool the “feel” of the ride (for lack of words) but it did jerk my head around quite a bit. But not as bad as Viper at Six Flags Magic Mountain! 😫

  • @zacharystewart5344
    @zacharystewart5344 Před 3 lety +1

    Love these vids! They are different from the typical vlogs and reviews most others do!

  • @ernestoalejandrojuradoagui4824

    You can do an expedition about Nara Dreamland, it was a cheap knockoff from Disneyland in California ? The entire park was demolished in 2019

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  Před 3 lety +1

      One day maybe!

    • @marcussheen
      @marcussheen Před 3 lety +1

      @bigevilworldwide1 Yes! I think Defunctland did a video on it. It was pretty sad how everything turned out, especially when the park closed.

  • @Joypyf
    @Joypyf Před 3 lety +3

    If only Knott’s still had that birthday promotion 😂🥳

  • @RebellionWrestling98
    @RebellionWrestling98 Před 3 lety +1

    This channel is AWESOME!! What consistently does it for me, is the great footage, (and in this particular video), the background music tracks. Can’t wait for the Expedition on Son Of Beast! Kings Island is my Home park🤘🏻

  • @Rollback_Productions_
    @Rollback_Productions_ Před 3 lety +4

    That clip from Ultra Twister media day was hilarious! I love that kid whos like totally duude!

  • @jeremydegeytere8385
    @jeremydegeytere8385 Před 3 lety +9

    This was the first roller coaster I rode with an inversion, can confirm it was awful.

  • @gpcoasters7824
    @gpcoasters7824 Před 3 lety +1

    Your channel is so good. The research and presentation are top notch. Thank you for the work you do!

  • @spoiledbabykitty
    @spoiledbabykitty Před 3 lety +3

    I miss the soap box racers, so many good memories. When it was replaced with this I was sad.....I was sad again when excelerator opened. It's just not soap box racers.

    • @gregg5958
      @gregg5958 Před 3 lety +3

      spoiledbabykitty I feel the exact same way. Nothing has ever been as good as the Soap Box Racers for me. It was the perfect fix for the Cycle Chase, had great theming, (until they let it go piece by piece), and was just a real fun ride. I would say it was one of the best remakes of a ride at any park ever. To be replaced by the mustard and ketchup coaster was just a slap in the face. Knott’s worst mistake ever.

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 Před 3 lety +1

      @@gregg5958 I never realized that about Windjammer. That the colors were those of mustard and ketchup.

  • @Krillinish2
    @Krillinish2 Před 3 lety +1

    I’d love to see a list of Knott’s 165 rides/shows/adventures they mention at 4:47. I’m guessing they’re counting restrooms and drinking fountains on that list.

  • @Coolharry64
    @Coolharry64 Před 3 lety +7

    I’m happy there isn’t a TOGO coaster in the UK.

    • @TrevorCollin_
      @TrevorCollin_ Před 3 lety +6

      It was stopped in the wind 😂🤣. So Windjammer was a perfect name!!! The Wind jammed it lol!

    • @johnfoltz8183
      @johnfoltz8183 Před 3 lety +5

      @@TrevorCollin_ in America, you jam in the wind.
      In Soviet Russia, wind jams you.

    • @Coolharry64
      @Coolharry64 Před 3 lety +1

      Could have gone with "SunJammer".

  • @ThemeParkDaze
    @ThemeParkDaze Před 3 lety +6

    I went on this ride the summer it opened. I was so excited for it and was extremely let down. It was the roughest coaster I had ever been on at that point.

  • @gordonwchas
    @gordonwchas Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. Love Charles Phoenix's pineapple jacket at 20:32.

  • @Nick_J_
    @Nick_J_ Před 3 lety +30

    Shoulda gone with Intamin, even back then

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  Před 3 lety +3

      Always

    • @theunknown0887
      @theunknown0887 Před 3 lety +4

      They may be unreliable but the return on investment, guest satisfaction, and appeal is worth it

    • @twistedcheese1
      @twistedcheese1 Před 3 lety +4

      Even arrow would have been a better choice

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 Před 3 lety +1

      Okay, hear me out:
      Schwarzkopf/Zierer mine train (think Lisebergbanan) themed to crashing waves.

    • @spider0804
      @spider0804 Před 3 lety +1

      @@twistedcheese1 Arrow coasters are fine and have a decent history of being reliable.
      The word "Even" kind of implies this is not the case.
      Their rides may not be spectacular today for record breakers or whatever but they were top of the line when they were made.
      They bankrupted themselves creating the coaster "X" and investing into a coaster that did not pan out in vegas.

  • @scottedward3030
    @scottedward3030 Před 3 lety +5

    Cue the Kansas song "Jammed in the wind".

  • @retrogenerationx7332
    @retrogenerationx7332 Před 3 lety +7

    Love these videos...still waiting for Son of Beast!!!

  • @zoditeevee3834
    @zoditeevee3834 Před 3 lety +7

    The biggest mistake in windjammer is that they got rid of the soap box derby racers to put it in.. lame

  • @liquidninja6654
    @liquidninja6654 Před 3 lety +1

    Your videos are AMAZING! So much never before seen stuff here

  • @ThrillsofColdplay
    @ThrillsofColdplay Před 3 lety +2

    I’ve only been on one Togo which was Shockwave at Kings Dominion and I actually didn’t mind it until the airtime hills

    • @theunknown0887
      @theunknown0887 Před 3 lety

      I remember riding that ride when I was 10 in 2015 and I got testicular damage from riding that and it thankfully closed for good 2 weeks afterwards

  • @tommonitor
    @tommonitor Před 3 lety +1

    Oh I have to comment on this headache of a ride. I was a season pass holder and lived close enough to be able to go to Knott's to observe the construction progress. Windjammer was a sight and yea couldn't wait to ride it. Went there opening week to ride it. Initially the loops did not have the three connecting supports. Every time a train went through them, each loop swung side by side you would think they would break off. Knott's management was there with the rest of the crowd enjoying the new coaster going through its paces. I had to ask them if the loops are supposed move that much. They were no longer smiling. Forward in time, the ride was no longer smooth and every time, me and then girlfriend had to visit the first aid center for some generic pain reliever (Knott's was great with their first aid center back then.) Windjammer was visually great, but a totally nightmare of a ride.

  • @ayyo-jason
    @ayyo-jason Před 3 lety +1

    Great informative video! I love learning about theme park history. BTW Terry E Van Gorder was also the general manager of Magic Mountain before it was sold to Six Flags in 1979.

  • @thisholidaygirl
    @thisholidaygirl Před 3 lety +1

    My first looping coaster, so glad you made this!

  • @djsugarc1075
    @djsugarc1075 Před 3 lety +8

    THE BEST AMUSEMENT HISTORY CHANNEL!!!!!

  • @michaelweaver7640
    @michaelweaver7640 Před 3 lety +3

    Windjammer was a huge disappointment but this video was great. And you had Charles Phoenix!

  • @endoraismygma
    @endoraismygma Před 2 měsíci

    I don't even ride anything anymore but am binging your videos. Very well done, respectful sometimes cheeky and professional. You really do your homework!

  • @candycorn8750
    @candycorn8750 Před 3 lety +3

    You should do a video on silverwood and their famous “aftershock”

  • @vxmpevil
    @vxmpevil Před 2 lety +3

    ultra twister fans in the 80's: *NUMBER 1! THEY WILL NEVER GET A BETTER ONE!*
    el toro: *hello*

  • @bryanmcclanahan532
    @bryanmcclanahan532 Před 3 lety

    Class video here. I appreciate all the designer credits and the insight into creative process the park took in their decision making. Bravo.

  • @kyuevren
    @kyuevren Před 3 lety +3

    Love ur vids. Watch at least one every single day.

  • @Jhamstra42
    @Jhamstra42 Před 3 lety +7

    20:35 Can we just take a moment to discuss this absolute tragedy that is this man's jacket?

    • @BruinPhD2009
      @BruinPhD2009 Před 3 lety +4

      Jeff Hamstra I think atrocity is a better word. Tragedies tend to be accidents, but that jacket was a choice. 😳🤣

    • @selanryn5849
      @selanryn5849 Před rokem

      The berries should be scratch-n-sniff.

  • @mstrmren
    @mstrmren Před 3 lety +4

    I would love a Video about Phantasialand!

  • @wilksy2949
    @wilksy2949 Před 3 lety +23

    Yo love the vids

  • @mattydeathgoon
    @mattydeathgoon Před 3 lety +4

    Always amazing bro keep them up.

  • @ianrotten4453
    @ianrotten4453 Před 2 lety +2

    Man I miss the parachute ride and the Wacky Soapbox Racer. Knott's was the best back in the late 70' & early 80's!

  • @flleathercop
    @flleathercop Před 3 lety

    Great coverage of historical events.

  • @marknetw
    @marknetw Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing production value really good video as usual :)

  • @Spyderjav
    @Spyderjav Před 3 lety +3

    I hate that ride for the simple reason that it replaced the beloved and infinitely better Wacky Soap Box Racers.

  • @_Capybara_
    @_Capybara_ Před 3 lety +11

    Expedition Theme Park rant on The London Resort AKA UK’s Disneyland 🤣

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  Před 3 lety +3

      Haaaa maybe we shall see what happens

    • @Gabes1321
      @Gabes1321 Před 3 lety +2

      You mean Harry Potter World?

    • @ellet8529
      @ellet8529 Před 3 lety

      @@Gabes1321 noooo it's a paramount resort they've been building since like 2012 I think

    • @Gabes1321
      @Gabes1321 Před 3 lety

      Eleanor Tracey I thought paramount went out of business

    • @ellet8529
      @ellet8529 Před 3 lety

      @@Gabes1321 nah they're still going! Idk why they're trying to get in the theme park game tho 🤣

  • @AngryGumball
    @AngryGumball Před 3 lety +1

    My first looping coaster(s), I only rode this in 1998 but was (mis)fortunate enough to experience both tracks. At the time, my 13-year-old self thought this was the coolest thing ever. I also thought that Boomerang at Knott's was amazing...

  • @TrevorCollin_
    @TrevorCollin_ Před 3 lety +5

    The first looping coaster I ever rode. I personally loved it!

  • @josephvoss4470
    @josephvoss4470 Před 3 lety +7

    How ironic. The Wind Jammer was jammed by wind.

    • @RequiemDream
      @RequiemDream Před 3 lety +1

      Phahahahaha I know right! 😂🤣 AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAH! AAAAAAAA! AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAH!!! 🤣AAAHAHHA

    • @RequiemDream
      @RequiemDream Před 3 lety

      A AAAAAAAA!
      AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAH 🤣🤣🤣

  • @rosenrot234
    @rosenrot234 Před 3 lety +2

    That ad trying to make Jaguar sound scary and thrilling. It's such a slow simple ride

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  Před 3 lety +1

      So true

    • @pikapal91746
      @pikapal91746 Před 3 lety +1

      It was not that great still better than Wind Jammer though.

    • @rosenrot234
      @rosenrot234 Před 3 lety +1

      @@pikapal91746 I mean I remember thinking it was extreme when I was a kid. Granted most of us were very stupid as kids

  • @5MadMovieMakers
    @5MadMovieMakers Před 6 měsíci +1

    This plot of land might take the record for most coasters in the same spot

  • @davidmay1225
    @davidmay1225 Před 3 lety +4

    Dang, I guess I’m lucky I got to ride this during its brief life.

  • @singlerailindustries1763
    @singlerailindustries1763 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks For Making My Suggest To A Video 👍

  • @DZstudios.
    @DZstudios. Před 3 lety +7

    Poor soap box..

  • @spider0804
    @spider0804 Před 3 lety +4

    Whenever I see a video about a Togo I think "Oh no."

  • @GeorgeT370
    @GeorgeT370 Před 3 lety +1

    Very informative...THANKS!

  • @chalky3320
    @chalky3320 Před 3 lety +1

    Sam I'm surprised you have the time to upload new videos considering your on lockdown with your better half🤣
    But seriously thanks dude love your style of editing and you do make some cracking content

  • @cashonly8385
    @cashonly8385 Před 3 lety +1

    I’ve seen a few different videos on Wind Jammer. It baffles me that such a dinky coaster could cause such large problems.

  • @ayumu-senpaii
    @ayumu-senpaii Před 3 lety +1

    i still miss the togo standup skyrider at my home park. miss the experience of standing up

  • @TracyA123
    @TracyA123 Před 3 lety +1

    Also..ETP...I know it broke your heart when they removed that awesome Vakoma Boomerang!

  • @brianbuchkowski8657
    @brianbuchkowski8657 Před 3 lety

    Love these videos every thought of making one about Disaster Transport or the Ultra Twisted?