Batteries & Motors 101 | Nerf Modding Explained

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  • How to pick Lipo Batteries for Nerf Blasters.
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    Motors: 1:13
    Batteries: 7:47
    Micro Switch: 16:50
    Wire: 18:04
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Komentáře • 459

  • @Bobololo
    @Bobololo Před 7 lety +79

    I'm expecting this video to be linked quite often in the future. Nicely made!

  • @hafizx1018
    @hafizx1018 Před 7 lety +69

    People that are on mobile are like wtf are you pointing at??? Hahahahaha 😂😂😂😂

  • @marlonvillapando6230
    @marlonvillapando6230 Před 7 lety +37

    Heres a little lesson in moddery,this is going down in history!
    if you wanna be a nerfer number one,you have to wreck a springer user on the run!

  • @21bao21
    @21bao21 Před 7 lety +70

    We are Number One but it's Ryan lecturing us about not using Lipos again.

  • @MisterNathan
    @MisterNathan Před 7 lety +27

    Excellent video, fellas.
    Everything was explained very thoroughly, and was easily understood. I wish there was something like this when I first got into the modding scene. Definitely interested in a MOSFET video, though.
    Keep up the great work!

  • @Humungalungbungus
    @Humungalungbungus Před 7 lety +27

    When like "we are number one" so much it has to be your intro music

  • @GaiusTerentiusVarro
    @GaiusTerentiusVarro Před 7 lety +3

    I have been looking for a video like this for quite some time! Thank you so much for the great detail and practicals. Very rarely do people give the reasons behind a mod as well as examples for how they do it. Again, Thanks So much!

  • @RoryStarr
    @RoryStarr Před 7 lety +5

    Two months of reddit posts, wikipedia pages, and dozens of open tabs and I learned more in 10 minutes of this video than I ever did. How is it that no one ever explained stall specs that well?

    • @MakeTestBattle
      @MakeTestBattle  Před 7 lety +3

      Because a vast majority of the denizens of reddit (and dare I say nerf in general) care more about feelings and dogma than facts. "Science" and "Maths" are scary words... Its getting better tho -R

    • @RoryStarr
      @RoryStarr Před 7 lety

      Just to clarify, does Milliamp hours indicate how long it could last in relative way?
      Now I just need to determine the exact specs of the stryfe battery compartment and I should be able to find a 2S Lipo that fits and runs the honey badger.

    • @MakeTestBattle
      @MakeTestBattle  Před 7 lety +2

      Yes. a 2000mAh battery will last twice as long as a 1000mAh battery. A good choice is the Zippy Compact 1300mAh. It fits really nicely -R

    • @RoryStarr
      @RoryStarr Před 7 lety +1

      You have saved me yet further trouble. Thank you, humble nerf saint of nation CZcams.

  • @KyllanMan
    @KyllanMan Před 7 lety +1

    quality video, have been continually googling these details and not making full sense of it all. Thanks lads.

  • @EDSKaR
    @EDSKaR Před 7 lety +9

    Well I'm bookmarking this one, really well presented! A good chunk of this applies to airsoft (different motors and switches, but the wiring and batteries are the same, and the maths of course)
    I even learned why 2s/3s lipos are called s when Cell begins with C! Didn't think about series and parallel connections in battery packs, I've never seen a parallel connection. The discussion of connecting two batteries together to double the capacity does pop up every now and again, but it's generally frowned upon in our circles as different discharge rates could lead to one battery overdischarging before the other battery is empty(at least, that's the theory that's thrown around)

    • @MakeTestBattle
      @MakeTestBattle  Před 7 lety +2

      Yeah, I wanted this video to be applicable to as many different communities as possible. Parallel is very rare nowadays. I'm not 100% sure on how using several packs in parallel would go down but that sounds legit. Battery manufacturing has improved so you can get pretty big individual cells so paralleling packs is rarely necessary.

  • @hanktheguy3237
    @hanktheguy3237 Před 7 lety +1

    I really appreciate you guys making these videos! Thanks so much!

  • @SuicideNeil
    @SuicideNeil Před 7 lety +3

    Good video, the info here sounds very much like the info I give out to beginners in the r/c hobby- it's all directly applicable in that sense.

  • @thenerfninja6095
    @thenerfninja6095 Před 7 lety

    I've done flywheel builds before, and I was still able to learn a ton! Thanks for the great vid Ryan.

  • @Zavier_Dagoat
    @Zavier_Dagoat Před 4 lety

    I have watched this video three times and it helped me a lot

  • @thekingofplay8539
    @thekingofplay8539 Před 7 lety

    Great video as always! Keep up fantastic work guys.

  • @themadquacker1462
    @themadquacker1462 Před 7 lety

    This is awesome. I knew about most of it, but the review on current draw was super helpful

  • @Ivegotaidea
    @Ivegotaidea Před 7 lety

    Super helpful! Thanks!

  • @r6inhardt
    @r6inhardt Před 7 lety

    Good job on explaining the subject. I found it very helpful.

  • @TRASHEDTEG
    @TRASHEDTEG Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks for this video, explained a lot that I didn't understand before. I just ordered 4 neo hellcat motors for 2 hyperfire builds I'm taking on and some 3s lipos from hobbyking. I'm glad to see the parts I ordered look compatible. The batteries are a little large but no harm there

  • @curtainpoles3120
    @curtainpoles3120 Před 7 lety

    Helpful and informative as always. Love this channel

  • @thecompletejake
    @thecompletejake Před 7 lety

    awesome video. thanks!

  • @sir_goofs9456
    @sir_goofs9456 Před 7 lety

    Love the new logo

  • @rossy9549
    @rossy9549 Před 7 lety

    Great video

  • @EnclaveDCLXVI
    @EnclaveDCLXVI Před rokem

    Nicely Done

  • @legionxiii5853
    @legionxiii5853 Před 7 lety +1

    Perfect 101 - helps a lot, thx!!!

  • @FiendX99
    @FiendX99 Před 7 lety

    I've probably studied and replayed this video more than I have for school work. Thanks!

  • @t3rb0rg
    @t3rb0rg Před 4 lety

    The second excellent video I've read from you. Thank you again, well done.

  • @DjOnslaught0713
    @DjOnslaught0713 Před 7 lety +1

    great video guys. lots of information. I'd love a mosfet video.

  • @nerfamily8043
    @nerfamily8043 Před 2 lety

    watching this a 2nd time a year later, I understand so much more. great job

  • @JamieTenikoff
    @JamieTenikoff Před 7 lety

    Congrats on 65K!

  • @Flachdachbunker
    @Flachdachbunker Před 7 lety

    You are awesomely educational. It´s always a pleasure to watch your videos, guys.

  • @AwesumG1
    @AwesumG1 Před 7 lety

    Subscribed because of this video, it was a lot of help and keep up the good work

  • @humanbeing9086
    @humanbeing9086 Před 4 lety +1

    Yes, someone explained carbon brushes! Carbon brushes are a good way to get stock motors to hold 3s. That's what my Modulus ECS-10 has now.

  • @tecktabulous7234
    @tecktabulous7234 Před 7 lety

    Just woke up, saw this, and my day got 72% better ;)

  • @MakeTestBattle
    @MakeTestBattle  Před 7 lety +87

    Official reason for the re-upload is the last 2 minutes of the video were missing.
    Unofficially...
    We are going to teach you how to be VILLAINS!
    -Justin

    • @luigi2blue
      @luigi2blue Před 7 lety +1

      Make.Test.Battle i was wondering why i saw this a while ago

    • @jakehelm2866
      @jakehelm2866 Před 7 lety +6

      Make.Test.Battle Ryan, you are number one...

    • @EricOso-eq9oo
      @EricOso-eq9oo Před 7 lety

      Only the most respectful of memes for this channel.

    • @aarondiver4937
      @aarondiver4937 Před 7 lety

      Where is the link to your paper?

    • @slagle92
      @slagle92 Před 7 lety

      Make.Test.Battle please make a video about other better sources. I know you briefly touched on a few but I would love to know more about LiFePo4's, NiCad's, IMR's, etc.

  • @leopoldokimo8747
    @leopoldokimo8747 Před 7 lety

    great explanations and working interactions of parts. No promoting of any particular brand. nice class doen to earth. good folk.

    • @leopoldokimo8747
      @leopoldokimo8747 Před 7 lety

      i forgot to ask the nerf kaos set up. how to upgrade it to be acurate

  • @braydenhaferman8457
    @braydenhaferman8457 Před 6 lety

    this helps so much

  • @rapnerffoamblasters5084
    @rapnerffoamblasters5084 Před 7 lety +1

    Great video guys very helpful thanks

  • @arav384
    @arav384 Před 4 lety

    Damn fire track

  • @amessedupkiwi7130
    @amessedupkiwi7130 Před 7 lety

    electro we are number one as the intro. nice one guys

  • @KorribanGaming
    @KorribanGaming Před 7 lety

    Thank you for the extremely helpful video!

  • @TheLuklear
    @TheLuklear Před 7 lety

    great video mtb im just starting out in modding and this video helped alot

  • @TheFlyingSniperTFS
    @TheFlyingSniperTFS Před 7 lety

    Thanks so much!

  • @jensboffin4303
    @jensboffin4303 Před 6 lety

    Thanks for the video. This helped me find a 45c 3S Lipo 5200mAh. Plenty of power for its size ;)

  • @anklemonitor
    @anklemonitor Před 6 lety +5

    I first watched this video and didn't understand any of it, then I went on an internet binge of watching nerf mod videos and scrolling through hobbyking and blasterparts, and know I can understand almost all of it, I would be a dumbass without the internet.

  • @zherron42
    @zherron42 Před 7 lety +6

    "'We are number one,' but it's all synths, and it's the background to a Nerf mod guide." Man, these "we are number one" memes are getting really esoteric.

    • @MakeTestBattle
      @MakeTestBattle  Před 7 lety +2

      We cater for a very specific niche of memers -R

  • @jonathansullivan7675
    @jonathansullivan7675 Před 4 lety

    Thanks so much! Very educational for a Noob like me.

  • @andrewjeisenman
    @andrewjeisenman Před 7 lety

    THANK YOU

  • @LoveLife-xy9ir
    @LoveLife-xy9ir Před 6 lety

    Thank you

  • @Posh1G
    @Posh1G Před 7 lety

    thank you so much

  • @luisjaimes4985
    @luisjaimes4985 Před 6 lety

    these guys are the tech Syndicate of needing CZcamsrs

  • @CollectionTHX1138
    @CollectionTHX1138 Před 3 lety

    Thanx that helps.

  • @jonmartin7058
    @jonmartin7058 Před 7 lety

    Great video, Filled in a gap I had on Lipo and made me wanna make a 2s2p 18650 battery tray for my next Stryfe build. Luckily I have a 3d printer and knowledge of vape batteries (Most common application of 18650 by non hobbiests) Wish me luck

  • @besacoslegostuff5404
    @besacoslegostuff5404 Před 7 lety +1

    Great video! + 1 sub

  • @ryanewton47
    @ryanewton47 Před 7 lety

    What no out takes?! XD Excelent video!

    • @MakeTestBattle
      @MakeTestBattle  Před 7 lety

      Because this video was totally scripted there weren't really very many silly outtakes; just me fucking up a few lines here and there -R

    • @ryanewton47
      @ryanewton47 Před 7 lety

      Make.Test.Battle I figured! You guys are awesome. Love your work!

  • @hiphip4808
    @hiphip4808 Před 5 lety

    Thank You!!!

    • @hiphip4808
      @hiphip4808 Před 5 lety

      How would you go about making a Lipo power Barricade? Could I use stock motors?

  • @polarbearjf
    @polarbearjf Před 5 lety

    @.Make Test Battle hey nice video very informative. I'm from the drone community,nit auto dji but hand soldered freestyle quads. The lipo batteries that go upto 4.2x are HV (high voltage) standard lipos charge upto 3.8v. Tha k's for the vid I'll be using it to mod mine! Cheers.

  • @benjaminmacdonald593
    @benjaminmacdonald593 Před 7 lety +2

    I'd love if you guys did mofset and relay vids!!

  • @chrisschultz7443
    @chrisschultz7443 Před 7 lety

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!

  • @briandenis3849
    @briandenis3849 Před 7 lety

    Great video. Thanks. I would like to see a video covering the torque and RPM differences between brushed and brushless.

    • @MakeTestBattle
      @MakeTestBattle  Před 7 lety

      It is verrrrry hard to find the exact figures for brushless motors but a guy on the Nerf Reddit page did some testing and the ones he used seemed to perform similar to top tier 180 motors which is quite surprising. That said, there are *many* different brushless motors so whos to say some aren't better.
      I will definitely cover the differences between brushed and brushless in the detailed motor video -R

  • @PrinceJase118
    @PrinceJase118 Před 7 lety

    like your vids

  • @j_reinegade
    @j_reinegade Před 7 lety

    Neat!

  • @grubby-assraccoon9216
    @grubby-assraccoon9216 Před 7 lety

    Great video, very thorough. Would love to hear your opinion on the pros/cons of using mosfets or relays, along with the use of NiMH batteries.

  • @chef3333
    @chef3333 Před 7 lety +8

    well now guess you could say you are number one

  • @leafgreensniper13
    @leafgreensniper13 Před 4 lety +2

    I got 2 things.
    1. How to calculate total use time for a 3s 1 amp/hour 25 c Lipo powering 2 rhinos
    2. If the total volts for a 3s is 11.1, that would only give me 3 volts of wiggle room before I have to recharge at 7.1 volts? I don't want any of the cells to drop below 3.2, so 7.1 just doesn't seem like a lot. Or can I push it all the way to 3.2 total volts in the entire battery?

  • @TheStoneAxe23Animation
    @TheStoneAxe23Animation Před 7 lety +1

    *We are number one at the beginning*
    Me: PERFECT 10/10 BEST VIDEO IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING UNIVERSE!

  • @pianoprovisation2213
    @pianoprovisation2213 Před 4 lety +2

    This video is awesome for a beginner like me, even three years later.
    Is there a newer video on this subject that may have any updates concerning this topic in our hobby, or is it just more efficient motors replacing older models?
    Thanks!

  • @bearlylegal1737
    @bearlylegal1737 Před 7 lety

    Could you do a Desolater build? I love the gun and I think giving it a fullauto kit and a forward barrel attachment can make it pretty slick.

  • @generic4591
    @generic4591 Před 7 lety +3

    We Are Number one intro :3

  • @davypeleman3672
    @davypeleman3672 Před 6 lety

    you could use capacitors to compensate for the stall current

  • @xandercolon5131
    @xandercolon5131 Před 7 lety

    just educational enough

  • @armin6325
    @armin6325 Před 6 lety

    do a mosfet video for a rapidstrike

  • @Atlasworkinprogress
    @Atlasworkinprogress Před 7 lety

    Hey Ryan! Thanks for this. Though I know the basics, it is great to have a comprehensive guide that can be linked to when people ask questions. One thing I did notice however is that you didn't go over pusher motor stuff, probably by design. I think it would be good to note that Honeybadgers and I assume Wolverines (Don't have any yet!) run great for high ROF Rapidstrikes.
    PS- 10S2P LiPo's exist!!! I've seen them, but I don't think you can (or would ever want to?) buy one anymore...

    • @MakeTestBattle
      @MakeTestBattle  Před 7 lety

      I did go over it very briefly, but its hard to give a good explanation of the torque requirements while keeping it simple. the rule of thumb is divide max RPM by about 4,500 for the Rate of Fire. Also I'm sure they do exist but I was just using it as an illustrative example -R

  • @maxhenry9077
    @maxhenry9077 Před 7 lety

    Thanks Ryan! This video was really helpful! Also have you guys ever made a Rayvipfire (rapidstrike + rayven) or a stryfeturion? (Stryfe + centurion)

  • @mrawesomesocks418
    @mrawesomesocks418 Před 7 lety +2

    6 months later and i still find myself using this as a reference.

  • @mattvonnerf3495
    @mattvonnerf3495 Před 6 lety

    Thanks Ryan, this is a great video, (as most of yours are) and helped me a lot in choice of motors and batteries.
    I'll be buying M.T.B. motors from now on (Fang Revamped make me want to retch) and some Neo-Rhino's for my Modulus, Hyperfire, Rapidstrike and Regulator Builds, probably even my Mega Mastodon (with some shims to hold the motors in place), what pusher motor do you think would work best on a 3S setup with Neo-Rhino motors? I can do motor braking to avoid runaway firing, so that doesn't worry me, ideally I want to stick with 130 size cans, just for the simplicity and less internal and external shell cutting.
    Honeybadgers are 2S, right? So could I use a 3S Rhino as a pusher without any issues?

  • @kuyajochi
    @kuyajochi Před 6 lety

    Do a guide on which flywheel blaster to mod.

  • @VermGho5t
    @VermGho5t Před 7 lety

    As an alternative for microswitches I've found in the US a chain called RadioShack carries lever/roller switches for about $3.50 a piece. Their ratings are 5A/125VAC, and I haven't had an issue with them in the last 6 months I've used them. They're not as beefy as the Omron 15A/125VAC switches it looks like Ryan has on his workbench, but they've done the job for me without any issues.

    • @MakeTestBattle
      @MakeTestBattle  Před 7 lety

      Sounds good! Microswitches are a bit of a fuzzy area... Its hard to give really valid advice other than "use something better tan stock" -R

  • @NaptownNerf
    @NaptownNerf Před 7 lety

    Great video guys! Very informative. Have a quick question for you… I'm putting together a rapid pistol with three hellcat 180s. Plan on using a 1000mah 45c constant 90c burst obviously 3S lipo. Just wondering if that will be safe if the motor stall?

    • @MakeTestBattle
      @MakeTestBattle  Před 7 lety +1

      I think you should rewatch the battery section until you can answer your own question :) -R

  • @Ko_clips
    @Ko_clips Před 7 lety +1

    we are number one lol in the start of the video

  • @ecksdee58
    @ecksdee58 Před 7 lety

    We are number one!!!

  • @gabrielkallenberger9394

    Please do a review on the 180 extreme pro

    • @MakeTestBattle
      @MakeTestBattle  Před 7 lety

      IDK but I've had bad luck with them; and they are far to expensive -R

  • @GoofyAhhMods
    @GoofyAhhMods Před 2 lety

    9:05 of course not in Nerf but there are batteries like that on some things like I have seen Lithium-ion batteries with that many volts and that many cells for electric bicycles

  • @DJGreasemonkey
    @DJGreasemonkey Před 4 lety

    Can you discuss flywheel replacement as in bought or printed and can you use 18650 batteries for power ?

  • @petefuzzypete
    @petefuzzypete Před 7 lety

    Question...... is it me or is any one else wondering why the crimson pump recon is primed??? unless there aren't any internals yet. Excellent content I just love looking at you wall and work bench/ background 😄

    • @MakeTestBattle
      @MakeTestBattle  Před 7 lety

      Check our previous video on Adrians HPA Crimson Strike Recon :D -R

  • @p1nh3ad41
    @p1nh3ad41 Před 6 lety

    do the little circuit boards on stock motors do anything important

  • @karenhertel-koenig2897

    What voltage alarm would you use and where would you put it?

  • @MrLivingTNT
    @MrLivingTNT Před 7 lety

    I would recommend having two differently colored wires, I have seen a lot of people confuse themselves by trying to use the same color of wire for positive and negative

  • @user-ve1cc6qn6t
    @user-ve1cc6qn6t Před 5 lety

    Should I use Energizer Rechargeable batteries in my modulus stryfe?

  • @mizterwizter
    @mizterwizter Před 7 lety +1

    Ryan is smart 🤓

  • @thedavinator37
    @thedavinator37 Před 7 lety

    Lol the we are number one at the beginning

  • @frosttgasian1168
    @frosttgasian1168 Před 3 lety +1

    Does overvolting a motor cause it to draw more current?

  • @lathanwillie
    @lathanwillie Před 2 lety +1

    Suggested motors for 20V and supporting mods?

  • @seniorxj2931
    @seniorxj2931 Před 6 lety

    Very good & informative video. Just wish I could see the links, (I'm on mobile).

  • @justinrutter5850
    @justinrutter5850 Před 3 lety

    on a rapid strike with no mods what would you use for a lipo so you can save money on batteries?

  • @jasonhopkins6180
    @jasonhopkins6180 Před 7 lety

    mosfet and relay video would be awesome. Also I have been wondering if pwm module would be beneficial in flywheel based blaster? Where do you guys get ur motors and are you going to do anymore videos on hpa stuff?

  • @Hack4Top
    @Hack4Top Před 6 lety

    I’m using 3 neo rhinos in my rapidstrike what battery should I get?

  • @jam99
    @jam99 Před 6 lety

    In your paper you say that we want the darts to skid as they go through the flywheels. Are you saying that knurled/grippy flywheels such as those from Worker should be avoided?

  • @therealdoy99
    @therealdoy99 Před 7 lety

    I found to what you said about 14500's to be wrong. I just completed my Rapid-Pistol build with 2 MTB Rhino motors and 1 stock motor and I ran it on 3 14500 IMR's with 650mAh and 9.75 pulse C and they worked really well and I have fired the gun probably 600-700 times and my not batteries nor motors are heating up a lot and my build works very well. This is still a very indepth tutorial though. Good Job!

    • @MakeTestBattle
      @MakeTestBattle  Před 7 lety

      It make a "worked really well" but I can assure you that the motors would perform better with a proper LiPo. 9.75C burst on a 0.65mAh is only a 6.3amp burst. The stall current on each Rhino is 8ish amps so you are trying to pull ~16ish amps out of a battery that is rated for 6 amps. -R

    • @therealdoy99
      @therealdoy99 Před 7 lety

      Okay that makes sense but I do run 3 batteries on a battery pack. I would have used a LiPo for the build but the initial investment is too high for me and this is the only flywheel blaster I actually have so I don't want to spend a ton of money. I still love how it turned out and it has very good range and ROF.
      Thanks Though!