I had the Krome EX, Kronos 2 61, and now I have the Nautilus 61. I think the Nautilus sounds more accessible and more pleasant to listen to. Playing this instrument is pure satisfaction. Kronos has a more severe character. It looks as if Korg engineers have given the Kronos an easier & nicer version. The keyboard is probably the same, but in Nautilus it feels a bit deeper. Between Kronos and Nautilus I had Krome EX, so maybe that's why I feel in Nautilus. To sum up, Korg Nautilus is the best equipment I've ever dealt with. Affordable price, something beautiful.
I think you first need to try the Nautilus to have an accurate opinion. Experience actually should tell you that you can’t judge only per music videos. What I know is that I can get the sound of the Kronos with some edition. The Nautilus sound brighter, but with enough processing you can have them sounding similar.
I have both of these keyboards: the Kronos, yes, does have just a little bit more "oomph" to it's sound, WHEN using the same sounds, however, the Nautilus has a ton of NEW sounds, some of which are simply spectacular! My intention was to replace the Kronos with Nautilus, but now, I am thinking I will just keep both of them.
"It sounds the same". Yes. Is it the same. No. I feel the sub frequencies a lot more on my krk subwoofer for the kronos. And the highs are shelved off a bit. Depending on the sound, the nautilus is "brighter" and more "clear", but the kronos is more "subby" "creamy" and "warmer"... Both are cool but i prefer kronos for studio-grade mixing.
Pretty darn sure they are the same software synths internally. One uses a slightly faster CPU. Beyond the tunning of presets, it would be an illusion to say one sounds better based on fact of the reality behind the synths. They truly are all software based digital. Only thing I could imagine may have changed would be the audio interface? As a former owner of the Kronos 2 88, I could say that no other keyboard has ever come close to being as much of an inspiration work platform. I really enjoyed all the tactile controls. Prices coming down so low on the original Nautilus, tempting to grab at least a 61 version. IT is software in a box, but it was so well thought out and executed, there is value there for sure in ease of use and a ready to go solution.
The sound difference in volume could also be attributed to the keybed. The synth action requires a different touch. Maybe compare the 61key versions of both? Either way, I won't like. I like watching these videos for motivation to play my kronos 2-88. ;) I 'm a yamaha guy- have the modx8 too, but came across a SCREAMING deal on a kronos. Love playing both, but the kronos is SOO deep that it's almost not as much fun to just play.
Same sound. In some occasions Nautilus sounds different (psychologically) because he press differently the velocity and it sound brigther and a bit saturated, specially in the strings.
I can hear the differences and the KRONOS is a better sounding keyboard and the feel of the KRONOS is much better. I give a (Nau) to Nautilus and it too is a great-sounding keyboard.
Kronos is over eleven years old but sounds much better than the new Nautilus (maybe due to different settings). If I had to choose between these two, I would choose Kronos.
I think these sounds are from the Kronos played in the Nautilus. The other way around it could be the same. I have worked over some patches and I can get that processed sound of the Kronos in the Nautilus.
Sound exactly the same... I own both kronos and 2 nautilus.... If you dont look at video and scroll down at comments while hearing video, you really can't tell. They both sound amazing in a band environment....The both are beasts and the nautilus has newer circuits, battery and less wear, so I would advise anyone to get the nautilus, even to replace the kronos. The are the same inside. sonically.
After listening with eyes closed, I like the Kronos, but oh, the feel of the new keybed in the Nautilus makes me want it. So much smoother than my old Kronos.
Very similar but Kronos richer. I think scaled down versions will always be like that side by side across all brands. For instance I doubt that a Yamaha MODX would sound as rich as a Montage.
Nautilus has thinner sound, kronos is more organic sounding & bit more punch/attack regardless of the keybed used.w/c means better DAC is used in Kronos
Hi Kronos and Nautilus owners, does the faders and additional Joystick on Kronos, which is absent on Nautilus make any difference or is it an important controllers lost ?
Played the Nautilus 61 today. Very impressed, even the action feels pretty good. I really love some of the organ sounds in the Nautilus especially the tonewheel and massive sounding all stops open Pipe organs, are these already in the Kronos 1 or are they available for the kronos 1?
Different sound, even on distorting small phone speakers ). As many said, Nau is thinner. Maybe its different key velocity responce (that may affect not only volume but also a filter cutoff. ) Wonder if they would sound less different when sequenced from DAW with identical midi signal. (or when midi controlled by each other)
Does anyone know why Korg stopped making the Kronos? Is there a newer version coming out? I like the KARMA feature the Kronos had. Why didn't Korg include that in the Nautilus? The new Roland Fanotm 0 series looks like something to look into but I like the Korg products, after all, Keith Emerson used them, need I say more.
I think they wanted to simplify it, it's also missing aftertouch too. But the Kronos has been going since 2011 it's had a very long life so expect to see a new flagship in a couple of years probably.
Stepan Kay said I'm not "mad" at them. However, the partnership has ended (actually it ended awhile ago...). New leadership and management at Korg, with the desire to no longer continue previous third-party relationships. I have nothing to say about it; we could continue to work together if they were interested, but they are not. So it was great while it lasted. And that will be the reason for no Karma in the Nautilus and other keys from korg
Kronos is so much better than the Nautilus. I've the Nautilus and I regret to bought it. Even my old Krome has a more natural and musical sound. Certainly Nautilus was made with very cheap components.
Aside from the frame and a few connectivity options, Nautilus has been built with more modern and in some cases higher grade components. I severely doubt you own one.
Sigh...if only the Nautillus put back the faders & had aftertouch....i would chose it over the Kronos as it also has just a tad better sound quality along with newer sounds....but for now...still the Kronos for me.
Sounds the same. The settings on the sliders have to be the same. A lot of people who have the nautilus don’t know that the slider on the nautilus are in the screen.
does the Korgs' have a better sound quality, than Roland fantom, i don't mean the kind of sound but the hifi qualiy of sound, maybe better preamp and reverbs , they seem larger in stereo feeld and fuller
They have a different characteristic sound, so it's a little hard to compare directly. Some prefer Piano on one, some the other. One advantage KORG retains over Roland is allocation of Polyphony. Zencore really strains the hardware and can drop notes very easily. That's not really the case with Korg. You'll want to consider workflow/UI as well. KORG is very deep and somewhat difficult for some. They prefer the less complex Roland structure. But there's no doubt the three main brands are all competitive. So pick your preference.
Kronos is far better. Korg have stepped backwards with the Nautilus by removing some very useful features one of which to me is the karma software. I will not be downgrading to the Nautilus.
I think both sound like a vst. And if you talk about vsti, some sound way better than both of them together. They are nice keyboards but I really think the only thing that surpasses a vst/vsti somehow is a VA and a real analog gear and a real acoustic instrument.
Es el mismo sonido procesados con los mismos 9 engines. Cuando suena algunas veces más brilloso es poque presiona más fuerte las teclas y se oye algo saturado.
I had the Krome EX, Kronos 2 61, and now I have the Nautilus 61. I think the Nautilus sounds more accessible and more pleasant to listen to. Playing this instrument is pure satisfaction. Kronos has a more severe character. It looks as if Korg engineers have given the Kronos an easier & nicer version. The keyboard is probably the same, but in Nautilus it feels a bit deeper. Between Kronos and Nautilus I had Krome EX, so maybe that's why I feel in Nautilus. To sum up, Korg Nautilus is the best equipment I've ever dealt with. Affordable price, something beautiful.
I have a lot of experience in synths and I find that the Korg Kronos is still the best, although it's many years old.
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I think you first need to try the Nautilus to have an accurate opinion. Experience actually should tell you that you can’t judge only per music videos. What I know is that I can get the sound of the Kronos with some edition. The Nautilus sound brighter, but with enough processing you can have them sounding similar.
@@Donetur"The Nautilus sound brighter, but with enough processing you can have them sounding similar."
That's all that needs to be said
Sound very similar, with those particular selection of sounds , just shows you there's no need to get the latest stuff , just need to play it nicely
Shows off the beautiful sounds of korg
I have both of these keyboards: the Kronos, yes, does have just a little bit more "oomph" to it's sound, WHEN using the same sounds, however, the Nautilus has a ton of NEW sounds, some of which are simply spectacular! My intention was to replace the Kronos with Nautilus, but now, I am thinking I will just keep both of them.
In some pieces, some moments appeared more volume in Nautilus. The quality of sound is good in Nautilus.
"It sounds the same". Yes.
Is it the same. No. I feel the sub frequencies a lot more on my krk subwoofer for the kronos. And the highs are shelved off a bit. Depending on the sound, the nautilus is "brighter" and more "clear", but the kronos is more "subby" "creamy" and "warmer"... Both are cool but i prefer kronos for studio-grade mixing.
Pretty darn sure they are the same software synths internally. One uses a slightly faster CPU. Beyond the tunning of presets, it would be an illusion to say one sounds better based on fact of the reality behind the synths. They truly are all software based digital. Only thing I could imagine may have changed would be the audio interface? As a former owner of the Kronos 2 88, I could say that no other keyboard has ever come close to being as much of an inspiration work platform. I really enjoyed all the tactile controls. Prices coming down so low on the original Nautilus, tempting to grab at least a 61 version. IT is software in a box, but it was so well thought out and executed, there is value there for sure in ease of use and a ready to go solution.
korg kronos best quality sounds
The sound difference in volume could also be attributed to the keybed. The synth action requires a different touch. Maybe compare the 61key versions of both? Either way, I won't like. I like watching these videos for motivation to play my kronos 2-88. ;) I 'm a yamaha guy- have the modx8 too, but came across a SCREAMING deal on a kronos. Love playing both, but the kronos is SOO deep that it's almost not as much fun to just play.
Same sound. In some occasions Nautilus sounds different (psychologically) because he press differently the velocity and it sound brigther and a bit saturated, specially in the strings.
Love these two keyboards, they play music so beautifully
I can hear the differences and the KRONOS is a better sounding keyboard and the feel of the KRONOS is much better. I give a (Nau) to Nautilus and it too is a great-sounding keyboard.
Kronos is over eleven years old but sounds much better than the new Nautilus (maybe due to different settings). If I had to choose between these two, I would choose Kronos.
I think these sounds are from the Kronos played in the Nautilus. The other way around it could be the same. I have worked over some patches and I can get that processed sound of the Kronos in the Nautilus.
Nautilus is a simplifier versión of the Kronos... Is the same thing
Sound exactly the same... I own both kronos and 2 nautilus.... If you dont look at video and scroll down at comments while hearing video, you really can't tell. They both sound amazing in a band environment....The both are beasts and the nautilus has newer circuits, battery and less wear, so I would advise anyone to get the nautilus, even to replace the kronos. The are the same inside. sonically.
The Kronos is the best forever
After listening with eyes closed, I like the Kronos, but oh, the feel of the new keybed in the Nautilus makes me want it. So much smoother than my old Kronos.
Very similar but Kronos richer. I think scaled down versions will always be like that side by side across all brands. For instance I doubt that a Yamaha MODX would sound as rich as a Montage.
Nautilus has thinner sound, kronos is more organic sounding & bit more punch/attack regardless of the keybed used.w/c means better DAC is used in Kronos
The Nautilus sounds thinner than the Kronos.
There are notable differences, nuances, clarity in sound. Both sound almost the same!!
You have a lot synths my friend, I'm sooooooo jealous 😭
We must ffind out his address))
Nautilus sounds more thinner.
I was under the impression the Nautilus has new pianos? The C1 piano sample in the Kronos had a nasty buzz in it. Does it in the Nautilus?
Yes, you have the Italian grand preinstalled on Nautilus (better piano than japan or german)
Hi Kronos and Nautilus owners, does the faders and additional Joystick on Kronos, which is absent on Nautilus make any difference or is it an important controllers lost ?
So I see most people here would rather buy a old Kronos 2 than any new workstation that's out now. Is that what is best to do?
I am curious to find out if audio are triggered using the same MIDI track. Would the recorded audio be identical?
There are only a few sounds that dont match volume wise.
Played the Nautilus 61 today. Very impressed, even the action feels pretty good. I really love some of the organ sounds in the Nautilus especially the tonewheel and massive sounding all stops open Pipe organs, are these already in the Kronos 1 or are they available for the kronos 1?
Different sound, even on distorting small phone speakers ). As many said, Nau is thinner.
Maybe its different key velocity responce (that may affect not only volume but also a filter cutoff. ) Wonder if they would sound less different when sequenced from DAW with identical midi signal. (or when midi controlled by each other)
Does anyone know why Korg stopped making the Kronos? Is there a newer version coming out? I like the KARMA feature the Kronos had. Why didn't Korg include that in the Nautilus? The new Roland Fanotm 0 series looks like something to look into but I like the Korg products, after all, Keith Emerson used them, need I say more.
I think they wanted to simplify it, it's also missing aftertouch too. But the Kronos has been going since 2011 it's had a very long life so expect to see a new flagship in a couple of years probably.
Stepan Kay said
I'm not "mad" at them. However, the partnership has ended (actually it ended awhile ago...). New leadership and management at Korg, with the desire to no longer continue previous third-party relationships. I have nothing to say about it; we could continue to work together if they were interested, but they are not. So it was great while it lasted. And that will be the reason for no Karma in the Nautilus and other keys from korg
@@guidografe8339That’s a bummer. I love Karma, though I struggle with its complexity.
I can't believe they ditched the ribbon?
Kronos has analog sound qualities.
Love you Kroni
По форме и звукам более Наутилус нравится. Он более компактный.
Do you know if I can use a Sipario X to change the sounds of the Nautilus (Prog/Combi Sysex)?.
yes you can ;)
Kronos is so much better than the Nautilus.
I've the Nautilus and I regret to bought it.
Even my old Krome has a more natural and musical sound.
Certainly Nautilus was made with very cheap components.
Aside from the frame and a few connectivity options, Nautilus has been built with more modern and in some cases higher grade components. I severely doubt you own one.
It's your problem.
Sigh...if only the Nautillus put back the faders & had aftertouch....i would chose it over the Kronos as it also has just a tad better sound quality along with newer sounds....but for now...still the Kronos for me.
@@simbaking6338 the newer Nautilus 61 AT has after touch. Bought one in Sept 2023.
Sounds the same. The settings on the sliders have to be the same. A lot of people who have the nautilus don’t know that the slider on the nautilus are in the screen.
does the Korgs' have a better sound quality, than Roland fantom, i don't mean the kind of sound but the hifi qualiy of sound, maybe better preamp and reverbs , they seem larger in stereo feeld and fuller
They have a different characteristic sound, so it's a little hard to compare directly. Some prefer Piano on one, some the other. One advantage KORG retains over Roland is allocation of Polyphony. Zencore really strains the hardware and can drop notes very easily. That's not really the case with Korg. You'll want to consider workflow/UI as well. KORG is very deep and somewhat difficult for some. They prefer the less complex Roland structure. But there's no doubt the three main brands are all competitive. So pick your preference.
@@ErraticFaith thanks for your reply
@@ErraticFaith thanks very much for sharing...
Weighted keys will always sounds different than non weighted keys. Compare it with a korg Nautilus 88
Kronos is far better.
Korg have stepped backwards with the Nautilus by removing some very useful features one of which to me is the karma software.
I will not be downgrading to the Nautilus.
esos sonidos ya bienen por defecto dentro del teclado?
Some yes, and some are Kronos factory sounds loaded into Nautilus.
Don’t think this requires a sound comparisson video…. The main difference is in the interface, the keybed and Karma..
this comparison was necessary because so many people were not convinced that Nautilus sounded like Kronos.
The keybed on my Kronos 61 is exactly the same as my Nautilus 61, just aftertouch is missing!
@@Culture_of_Ghosts precisely, no aftertouch, which is a huge thing for my synth playing style
@@Culture_of_Ghosts What do you mean "just"???
On a flagship keyboard?
It's propostrous!
The BUILD quality of the Nautilus SUCKS!
@@Zwopper I presume you wanted steel rather than aluminium? 😅
Kronosnak szebb a hangtonusa😉
Nautilus sounds like VST
I think both sound like a vst. And if you talk about vsti, some sound way better than both of them together. They are nice keyboards but I really think the only thing that surpasses a vst/vsti somehow is a VA and a real analog gear and a real acoustic instrument.
Seriously, Nautilus looks like a uggly dwarf vs the beautiful Kronos
Well, since the sounds are virtually the same, I choose the Kronos based on its looks. Way prettier than the Nautilus..
Yes, but less power inside and less memory banks, and also Kronos is discontinued 😉
Please dangdut
M3 still king.
M3 is still a great synth, but there are many better synth on the market (not only Korg Synth)
Why no KARMA shameful.
Nautiluz no tiene artertosh y su sonido es muy tosco muy brilloso y suena a plastico
Es el mismo sonido procesados con los mismos 9 engines. Cuando suena algunas veces más brilloso es poque presiona más fuerte las teclas y se oye algo saturado.
Nautilus liht version Kronos 2
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Sounds the same.
This is the point.. ;)