Spider-Man in a Cop Drama | The Death of Jean DeWolff
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- Buy Spider-Man: The Death of Jean DeWolff! amzn.to/36F3i49 He's the Sin-Eater, the man who takes the world's sins for himself by killing every sinner he sees - and he sees them everywhere! But the lethal lunatic bites off more than he can chew when he robs Spider-Man of a dear friend: police captain Jean DeWolff! How can the grieving hero track down a villain with targets everywhere he goes? Join the wall-crawler for a frantic search through New York City that culminates in a pivotal moment between Manhattan's two biggest solo stars - Spidey and Daredevil! Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #spiderman
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The best part of this story was where Daredevil confronts Spider-Man, he says "If you want him, you'll have to go through me".
Next panel, Daredevil gets tossed through the widow. Like a scene from a comedy movie.
spider-man "Alright then"
@@AnarchicArachnid "if you say so"
"Shame."
This book is great, I miss when Spider-Man was more adult oriented but not edgy
This, Spider-Man VS Wolverine, Ultimate Spider-Man (Venom) prove that Spider-Man can evolve in tone without going hardcore edgelord like Sins Past and One More Day.
@@englishgiraffe2124 those weren't edge Lord, they were just stupid 🤣🤣🤣
@@englishgiraffe2124 I want to collect all of Straczynski’s run but that collection includes Sins Past and One More Day. The two worst Spider-Man stories ever written.
@@superjlk_9538 Yeah that's why I just bought the trades and stopped at volume 7 lol
@@creature2727 I want to collect omnibuses but I feel like it’s a waste because of those two stories
55:12
"Call an ambulance!
Call and ambulance!"
*pulls out gun
"but not for me."
Wow, as a writer I can say with certainty sometime you take scene and jokes from place and rework them into other places. That's funny.
1:56 Sal, I know what a television is... that's the funny thing with the big discs and the horn right?
I think that was something called a boombox,
Daredevil let a man die to protect his secret identity. But as soon as he got in over his head trying to rescue sin eater he was willing to sacrifice Peter's identity.
Matt Murdock is canonically a hypocrite who doesn't think things through at times
31:13 "Black suit Spider-Man! I can do what I want!" A perfect distillation of 80s Spider-Man.
If we didn't think Peter was through the ringer enough... We find out he's a Jets fan
I'm surprised you didn't bring up the Venom connection. It seemed like you were about to. Would have been nice to bring it full circle.
Yup, this is the story that Brock disgraced himself with.
To elaborate for those curious but unable to read for yourself: Eddie Brock jumped on the first "fake" Sin Eater story before Det. Carter was revealed to be the real one. The backlash afterwards was the source of Brock's resentment.
@@grifftastic2745 That always felt weird to me because if you look at it, a reporter learns that a mentally ill man attempted to kill JJJ and confessed to being a serial killer. He then writes these facts and gets them published only for spider-man to reveal that actually it was the schizophrenic next door who was doing the murders and this schizophrenic only almost did a murder. Upon learning this fact the journalistic community decides that he is the most inept reporter and he is utterly disgraced. All because he was very quick to report what no one without an an insane level of omniscience could possibly see as even a little bit suspicious.
@@Oceanman90 Yeah but Brock was way dumber in that scenario. He basically blamed Spidey for just doing his damn job in catching a maniac as opposed to blaming that psycho Gregg. He even says "if you hadn't caught the real one, no one would've known that Gregg wasn't the Sin-eater and maybe Carter would've stopped his killing Spree knowing he got away scott free".
Which is dumb on so many levels and makes his "Spider-Man is a villain who doesn't care about the innocent" even stupider than it already is.
@@mrtable2861 it works as the origin of a highly disturbed man who turned into a crazy killer. The thing is that future writers fleshed him out to be more of an anti-villain/anti-hero where he wasn’t so coo-coo. Now, his original origin makes less sense.
32:13 Sal’s reaction is priceless
I remember this story.
My mom and I read this together.🙂
Thanks guys.
Spider-Man: So you are blind?
Daredevil: Yeah.
Spider-Man: Too bad, too bad you can't see this 🖕.
👌
Daredevil hears the telltale creak of the joints of a human middle finger and uses the sound to deduce Peter Parker is spiderman, and then ruins him
He have radar
It's interesting, between Sin-Eater, Ernie Popchik and Spider-Man/Daredevil we're getting three different types of vigilantism in comics. That must have been on purpose.
I can understand Popchik as he shot those hooligans in "self defense" but Sin Eater? He just killed innocent people not criminals.
@@windwind3170 Without an impartial arbiter vigilantes decide what is and isn't warranted. In the eyes of the law they've all done that same crime, the things afterward are separate crimes.
What does and doesn't constitute "self-defense" was actually what was the legal issue during the Bernie Goetz case in '84
The issue with Spidey punching DD through the window was my first comic I ever picked up. I’m so glad this story is covered! That issue holds a special place in my heart
When I first read this comic I thought to myself that they can use this story to introduce Spider-man and Daredevil in the MCU
*Landlord:* "That's the schizophrenic side of the building."
*New Tenant:* "Oh." *opens door, closes door* "Oh?" *opens next door, closes door* "..." *opens next door, closes door* "All these rooms are empty!"
*Landlord:* "They're all owned by one guy."
Holy crap I swear I've seen you everywhere
@@liltaco4119 He goes where he's needed. He's just needed all over the place.
@@bluhmer1990 the dude is literally in like every fandom lmao
@@liltaco4119 Not necessarily. You may be thinking his other kin as well such as Just Some Guy without a Mustache or Just Some Guy with half a Mustache.
@@bluhmer1990 ah yes that clears the confusion
Her death traumatized and shocked me when I first read this and I was in college.
27:25
Nick: I'm sorry that your partner died in the line of duty agent. Have this autographed picture of my face to get you through is difficult time
I always liked the concept of this story being basically Spider-Man and daredevil vs son of Sam. I always liked the concept of street level characters fighting low or no powered serial killers.
YES!!! one of the best Spider-Man stories ever. Alongside Peter David, hopefully we can see Back Issues on Roger Stern's Spider-Man stories as well, like Hobgoblin Saga and Kid Who Collects Spider-Man
Roger Stern is a great writer. I love his Avengers comics .
I recently reread this story and saw in the third part of Jean Dewolff death while searching for the Sin Eater Spider-Man references the kid who collects Spider-Man story from ASM vol.1# 248. Which is pretty cool if I can say so!
Peter David writing Spider-man tends to be super awesome.
Well he is the man who created Spider-Man 2099.
Miguel O'Hara is is actually named after Peter David's close friend Miguel Ferrer (the voice of Shan Yu in Mulan and Vandal Savage in Seasons 1 and 2 of Young Justice).
45:50
I'd like to think that if Daredevil beeded to make an echolocation sound, it'd just be a really exaggerated cough.
The subway shooting scene was definitely inspired by Bernie Goetz
And they would make two movies with Electro because Sony is still hoping for their sinister 6 movie
Random info: Heath Ledger, Shannyn Sossaman, and Mark Addy (all starred in A Knights Tale as well) were in a film called "The Order" in which a Sin Eater is the main part of the story. Heath was also the Joker of course. What does this have to do with Spider-Man? Basically nothing.Except all the SIN EATING lol
Sal’s face when Ben asked if Jean’s mom is hot lmao
Thanks for this one, The Death of Jean DeWolff was a story I always heard about, but never read.
I am quite the Spider-Man know-it-all and I consider myself a big fan, but I had no idea who Nathan Lebenski is. Never heard of 'im. Until back issues, that is. Covering Spidey books from 80s' to 90s', he is the most interesting recurring character because I had no idea he even existed.
7:53 Sal will never miss an opportunity to reference Golden Girls in Back Issues.
Edit: Also, giving credit to Spencer, at least the Sin-Eater in Sins Rising and Last Remains actually absorbs the sin of the people he shoots instead of metaphysically doing it.
YESSSSSSSSS! This storyline is SO UNDERRATED! Thank you SAL!!!!
Oh my god, it’s my book! Thanks so much for doing it guys, this story means a lot to me and is still one of my favorites even though it’s so long before my time.
When I first read this I never realized that they were 2 separate stories. I thought it just went straight from one to another. Then again I was like 10 when I read this collection for the first time.
I may be in the minority but I was thrilled to see Nick bring Sin-Eater back.
I hear you man. I’m digging Spencer’s run.
I'm shocked they never brought him back as a Daredevil villain years ago
I was watching old videos and this popped up in my recommended and I thought it said “10 months ago” and I got so excited cuz I thought I skipped over something.
Turns out it was uploaded 10 minutes ago and I am even more excited!
After a long week of watching back issues, time for more back issues.
"And a signed picture of Nick Fury" - I imagined a shot of Sam Jackson's face sitting on a desk or whatever before remembering this was the 80s. Sigh.
so it's Hasslehoff
I don't see the problem? Why the sigh?
@@Ando1428 Just a commentary on how the MCU affects how I visualize things like this. The sigh is that it is not technically correct - the best kind of correct
@@woodcojb i mean tbf that was also correct in the ultimate universe
Yo from Australia again. Probably sick of seeing my comments about doing night shift but atm it's 2:15am and nothing to watch on CZcams and boom you come in and save the day again thank you!
"Jesus, Spiderman..." sums up this story perfectly - Peter's a dick lol
5:20 Welp, that was a quick, dark look into Sal's beliefs, lol.
23:49 Mr. Spider-man, I don’t feel so good.
"And Thor's like 'Verily!'"
42:24
@55:00 That sounds like Bernie Goetz “the subway vigilante” I think this scene is a homage to that. Predator 2 still stole it though.
It was before predator 2
Another awesome episode guys! I like watching/listening while I'm doing other work in my Man Cave. This channel means a lot to me and the fact that I get to learn or re-learn information about comics I have read in the past is important to me. Thanks and can't wait for more Spider-Man/Daredevil back issues.
I’ve never seen this collection for a decent price :(. It’s always $30+.
On a side note, I’m surprised Sal didn’t talk about DeWolf’s story in Ultimate Spider-Man.... sort of gives me hope that Ultimate Spider-Man will return to Back Issues soon!
30:23 that kind of looks like Tom Holland on the right panel.
As a Jets fan, I appreciate you guys trashing them. They're terrible.
Back Issues never shines brighter, than when Sal is talking Spider-Man. Love it. Y'all are the best.
1:04:57 dammit... Ben does it again
My favorite Spidey Daredevil story was the time Spidey was blinded, and Matt ended up helping him learn to deal with it.
But the shitty part of it was when Spideys own powers started giving him similar abilities to Daredevil, then suddenly, in a rush ending, Peter sight comes back. (and those new blossoming powers are never mentioned again)
Me: *Looks at thumbnail*
Also me: *Tapping thumbnail* "Who!?"
54:52 the story here and the Predator 2 scene were apparently both based on a real life event where a guy gunned down a mugger on the New York subway.
Hey the story was great, dipped in to some fantastic writing for Peter, and Matt, and the video was fun and simple, great jobs guys, Merry Christmas!!!!
Great story. Underrated Spiderman comic
I wish there were more stories like this. After seeing I wish Kindred was Jean
Thank you so much for covering this story! I love this period of Spider-man and glad it's getting the back issues treatment.
Awesome episode. Been looking forward to this story being told for awhile. Thank you
24:16 "Spider-Man, does it hurt to diiiieeee...", got me SO hard!
I’m not gonna lie, whenever you guys referenced Jean, I just thought of another Captain Stacy
I really needed this content from you guys today. Work is a slog and the ol’ patience meter is low.
Love this story.
43:45
Actually, Matt wouldn't need to bother organizing anything, since he can always feel where they are.
Fun Fact (maybe), there’s a character called Meredith DeWolf whose a cop in a Ben Reilly/ Gambit crossover
I’ve been waiting years for you guys to do this one
6:58... was that a rick and morty reference I spy there Sal?
58:22
Well that didn’t last long now did it Matt?
This is a really really tight story and the only thing that’s like not good is the stupid electro stuff. Like honestly this would be an amazing darker Spider-man story for like a movie
HELLS YES!!!! I’ve been waiting for so long!! One of my favorite spiderman books
This is the type of stuff I NEED to see in mcu spider-man going forward
5:15 Merry Christmas, everyone!
That subway scene is stolen from a real life event which the Joker movie stole from Predator 2 which stole that from the Death of Jean DeWolff
Yes! I have been requesting this for a long time! One of the all-time great Spider-Man stories!
43:45 ben, was that a blind joke?
Nice catch.
There can never be too many Predator references in an episode of Back Issues lol
Love the content keep it up
I'm always looking for a great story that has Spider-Man and Daredevil teaming up so this sounds right up my alley!
Alright, I'm pretty sure the bit with Popchik on the subway is a reference to Bernie Goetz, which was a bit of a big deal in the 80's. Either way, Sin Eater remains one of my favorite Spider-Man villains. He's (mostly) realistic, scary, and he died before it got old (we do not consider his resurrection in Nick Spencer's run canon in this household).
This was the strangest Hill Street Blues/Marvel crossover put to page.
Think I'll pick this one up, looks pretty cool!
Tele-vision? what doth be this sorcery
40:39 he name drops the guys daughter!
Just a jets fan, saying "not cool, man"
I did not know about this book. It’s so good.
Is that an Iron Maiden shirt... that's a Iron Maiden shirt! Nice!
Huh. Weird. I was just thinking about Jean DeWolfe this morning and how she would be a cool addition to the movies and video games.
She could really work in the next game
The only game she’s been in was in the Video Game Adaptation to Spider-Man 3
She was also in The Amazing Spider-Man 2 video game. Well her voice anyway. She was of a side quest that involved police recordings and Dewolff was the voice in the recordings.
@@LUISPRIME Wait really? Good God...
@@comixproviderftw_02 Yep.
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I was sure you were going to mention Bernie Goetz when you brought up the subway scene.
This story was pretty funny in Cosmic Ghost Rider Destroys Marvel History. That whole book is hilarious.
Funny thing is, I feel like if i read the actual comic it wont be as good as the version I just watched on this couch
The treatment of Jean reminds me a little of when Montoya's boyfriend was killed by the...*sigh*...Clench
I love the contempt you all had when the Jets were mentioned lmao. I also hate the Jets. Peter making bad team choices
He's a Mets fan too right? Honestly choosing those two teams is SO pure Spidey.
"Why would you make TWO movies with Electro in it?" Well dang it's the MCU this time LOL
Hell yeah Spidey Back Issues!!
aunt may gets around
Sin eater should have kamen rider W catchphrase of “Now let’s count up your sins”
great episode
Is the Mr.Popchek shooting thing a reference to Bernie Gaetz? Or was that after?
Guys, great review as always. Not sure if you've heard of a book called Huck by Mark Millar & Rafael Albuquerque. I'm sure all of you would dig it & would make a great back issues.
Question: Why didn't Peter's spider-sense go off when Mr. Popchic was getting beaten? He was literally feet away
He wasn't in danger. Only like MJ or Aunt May in danger can set his sense off it they're close.
Can you guys talk about spiderman big time?
The more I watch Back Issues the more I realized I missed when I read comics in this era. This was because I skipped all the Peter Parker portions and flipped to the pages with Spider-Man on them.