15 Wheel of Time Secrets from Season One and Beyond
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- In this SPOILER HEAVY video I'll discuss 15+ huge secrets from season one of the Wheel of Time tv show on Prime Video that prove that the show has the bigger picture of the full book series in mind. Hopefully season 2, season 3, and beyond will prove me right!
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
1:20 - Spoiler Warning
1:39 - 1 - The Ring
2:21 - 2 - Trust The River
3:56 - 3 - The Amyrlin Seat
4:46 - 4 - Clear The Rubble
8:02 - 5 - Egwene's Destiny 1
8:36 - 6 - King Rand
8:59 - 7 - Aiel Blood
9:18 - 8 - Perrin's Destiny
9:58 - 9 - A Loyal Wolf
10:10 - 10 - Mat's Destiny
10:26 - 11 - The Flame (Egwene's Destiny 2)
12:21 - 12 - Blood On The Rocks
12:40 - 13 - Existential End
13:43 - 14 - Evil Protection
14:14 - 15 - The True Power
15:33 - 16 (Bonus) - An Ending
16:53 - Thanks for Watching!
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▶ Ep 7: • Wheel of Time S1 E7 Ex...
▶ Ep 8: • Controversial Wheel of...
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What is your favorite foreshadowing moment in season one?
Tam to Rand (when lighting the lantern); "I'm sure there is a reason no one can remember their previous life"
definitely the clearing of the rubble, amazing!
Yes, that one is awesome! It's on my list for the next video!
Rand going up on the hillside in ep. 1 when he's wrestling with his emotions about Egwene.
My favorite foreshadowing was focusing on Egwene during the MMM. It's very emotionally powerful just thinking about it!
The black flows of the True Power flowing into Ishy on the Seal are like the black umbilical cord at the end of TEOTW, only way more subtle - likely to pay homage and explain the end of TEOTW a bit more but also be a nod to book readers. I’m definitely in line with your Unraveling there.
Another brilliant masterpiece!! And great marketing too! 😊
Yeah, the "black cords" are definitely there, I agree. Thanks for watching and engaging, my friend!
@@UnravelingthePattern ALWAYS
This is one of my favorite videos anyone has done on Season 1 of the show. I love so many of these foreshadowing moments you've highlighted including the clearing of the rubble and the foreshadowing of the fight at Shayol Ghul. I think there's no question that the writers have the entire series in mind in their writing and I really hope season 2 cements this show for Amazon Prime so they get a full 8 seasons.
Thanks so much. As much as I praise season one, I really do hope they can improve for season 2. As you say, it will likely decide whether we get to the end or not. It has to be WAY better!
I second that this was great incite I will be looking out for these now when the new season comes out & will prob watch season 1 again 👍 . fingers crossed we will get 8 seasons I also hope they increase the episode count to at least ten so everything doesnt seem as rushed wishfull thinking I know but there is so much story & character building to come .
Awesome video! I picked up some of these foreshadowing, but I didn't spot the Rand scene with the rubble, it's very subtle but totally fitting.
I really loved Egwene looking at the Amyrlin seat, that was probably my favourite, but I also liked Tam's lantern speech. Also, I didn't pick it up myself but after Gus and Ali from the 'wheel takes' podcast pointed out how much foreshadowing there is for Dumai's Wells in Episode 4, that also became a favourite of mine.
Great thoughts! I hadn't thought about Dumai's Wells! Adding it to my list!
@@UnravelingthePattern Highly looking forward to your next video now! Dumai's Wells is such an amazing event in the series, really keeps Lord of Chaos up as one of the best books.
Brilliant , I’ve gone from when the show aired and not being 100% sure of the changes to absolutely loving the show and agreeing that we are in good hands and the writer definitely are writing with later seasons in mind
I also thought it was interesting in the Manetheran scene that Rand’s hand - tapping to the song was out of sync with the actual beat of the song. I think that it was to show (A) that Rand was not, as the others were, of the Old Blood; and (B) that the Dragon is a being apart from everyone else.
Good catch! I noticed that too and thought that maybe Josha just has really bad rhythm 😅
@@UnravelingthePattern HAHAHHAHAHA you’re both right
That is a much better explanation than just Josha being bad at rhythm and driving all of us musicians crazy! Hahaha!
re the rubble - thank you! Your comments re Rand (and others like Egwene) clearing the rubble of their past and working together to move forward is perfect . I hadn’t focused on that point before but it is definitely something RJ would have been trying to get through to us as readers. He already made it clear that people from all backgrounds, genders, abilities etc can choose Light or Dark for various reasons, overcome great obstacles and unite with many including those thought to be enemies to come out on top and conquer the Dark while showing that Balance is what is all important (& our environment - the Bowl of Winds arc and the need to sort that was an important point!).
Another great video - love soem of those images, had me smiling!
I never really liked the 'balefire must have an opposite weave' thing because it seemed to come out of nowhere, but am 100% behind the theory that Egwene's 'healing' in eposiode 8 was a baby version of something like that
I hadn't noticed the black threads leading to Ishamael in that last episode. I will look for that in a re-watch. I really liked your visual of balefire burning away threads in the pattern. You do a great job with the visuals for your videos.
Thanks so much!
Babe, wake up, a new UtP video just dropped!
**I can't wait to see season 2. This video makes me hyped up**
I'm so glad! Me too!
Great analysis! This really helps me enjoy the TV show more than just looking for scenes that match up with the books. It's really hard for me to let go of my bias for book cannon over the changes in the adaption.
I second that, I also had problems especially with episode 8, and this video helped a ton!
I hear you. I think some people assume that because my channel is mostly positive that I love every choice they made in the show, but I don't. I'm really just hopeful that they really do have the BIG picture in mind, and things like this are proof of that. I definitely want the show to be better than S1 moving forward.
I was already convinced and had most of your points in mind, but I love the way you have used so many beautiful visuals to help illustrated and bring these together. I've been thinking a lot the past week or so about unbreakable cuendillar breaking and the metaphysics of this, so it was a blast (pun intended) to see your thoughts at the end. brilliant content, and I think I will watch this a couple more times over the next days to absorb it all. love the Egwene stuff, that gave me a lot of new connections to ponder - delicious!
Thanks Koala! I already have a list long enough for at least 15-20 more!
Such a great video!
-Does Liandrin’s ring turn black because of the shadows or The Shadow?
-Aaaahhhhh! #ToddDrawsWoT!!
-Now I have a new headcanon for Herid Fel. 🥰
Hey, when I can't find fan art of some characters, I have to improvise. As soon as I thought of that character from Atlantis I knew it was Herid Fel 😆
I'm cackling about that "winds of Prime" bit. Lauren, you ham. 😆
Great beats and references, many (most?) of which I didn't catch! And I love the videos and imagery you pull in to accentuate your points. I LLOL'ed at "BOOM, BABY!"
I've recently been coming around, on my own, to the same conclusion you drew about Egwene undoing Nynaeve's burnout. Glad to see someone else finds that plausible, and I like your spin on it! And, like everything else you highlight, I agree that it really shows that the showrunners are finding their own way to be faithful to the spirit of the books, even if it felt wrong at first for book fans and maybe might be risking giving WoT noobs the wrong impression. I bet we might get some brief mention early in season two of how healing death and burnout is impossible, in a way that will make it clearer to non readers that Egwene did something other than healing, that even she doesn't fully understand yet.
I am really glad to hear you voice your theory about how Rand was able to light his pipe at the end of the last book by manipulating the very pattern itself. I came to that exact same conclusion following my second full read through of the series. I honestly don't see where the dought comes from. For me, once I thought about it I don't know how you could realistically come to any other conclusions. I just discovered your channel and it is one of the best I've come across. 👍
Thanks so much!
Thanks, Lauren. Terrific video. I had totally missed the "clearing the rubble" part in my rewatches. That scene somehow felt odd to me, but I was not sure why. Your explanation makes so much sense.
Amazing clues. I am one of those people who barely picks up on those things, I just enjoy watching and reading and don't give too much thought on things. But this definitely has me hyped again and makes so much sense. Thank you. Hope we do not have too wait too long anymore for S2. Just finished rewatching and feel like I could almost rewatch again.
The editing and meme inserts in this video were *chef’s kiss.* Another top-notch video Lauren! Seriously!!!!
Thanks so much!
Excellent video as usual! 🤩
“…on the wings of Prime” was priceless lol
You didn't convince me of anything, since I already was!!! There are an insane amount of foreshadowing throughout the show, and so I have had as much fun rewatching the episodes to find them as re-reading the books for the same reason! Great video as always!
Wow! You just gave me another reason to rewatch season 1! So much I missed. Thanks for this terrific insight
UNFAIR! It's unfair that your videos don't get hundreds of thousands of likes! They are BRILLIANT!!!
Thanks so much! Maybe someday!
@@UnravelingthePattern You can surely count on mine!
Nicely put together video. I love seeing all the little hints the writers/shortener put into the series.
Absolutely love this! Just finding it as I am waiting for the next episode of season 2 and rewatching season 1 to see what I missed the first time. Tbh I was unimpressed and very 'meh' about season 1, wishing for it to be good but a little letdown with certain progressions and how it ended. Buuuut, I will say with a rewatch, I can now get pass my initial impressions and feelings, pick up on more details and along with this video, appreciate and enjoy it a little more despite its flaws.
I was reading through the books again recently, and came across graendal's description of the True Power. "Nothing exists that cannot be unmade by the true power," or something close to that. I think the wires or black lines from 14:18 are an example of this, if not a callback to the description of the "black wires" rand was able to see in the end of book 1, and is what allowed the Heartstone seal to be broken.
Oooh, great catch!
@@UnravelingthePattern hahah, honestly I paused the video at the time code to type that. Soooo I didn't get to hear point #15 before I finished.
Another great breakdown Lauren! There is definitely lots of foreshadowing and things being brought in from later story arcs earlier in season one to set things up. They still followed the main storyline of Eye of the World but they definitely needed to start touching on other elements like they did because if we're lucky and get 8 seasons that is barely enough to cover this massive epic. All those complaining about it not following word for word clearly do not understand how long it would take to film every piece of the story. We'd be waiting for 20+ years, the actors would all age out and there's no way you could keep the show going that long. I hope they can pick up the pace on production a bit because as it stands now they're still looking at more than 10 years to get to the Last Battle.
I agree. I am hoping that eventually they will produce 12 episode mini seasons, so 24 episodes/year(like the zombie show). THAT would be epic. So Im sure it wont happen. If we can get 2X8episodes each year, we could get all 14 books having their own season.
Yes! Yes! Yes! Been awaiting this video for so long! Thank you! Great video as always! Your videos are the best!!
Favorite foreshadowing moment was when Logain was talking about Aes Sedai kneeling to him there is a well in the background
I'll be honest, I'm not remembering what this is foreshadowing. Could you remind me?
@@UnravelingthePattern kneel or you will be knelt
Oh, haha. Duh!
I didn't expect this to make me emotional. Thank you for all your great work as always!
I'm so glad you liked it and appreciated it! It's so nice to hear that people like my work!
Man Lauren, you are so good at this. I really love your work.
Thank you so much!
Absolutely brilliantly thought out and presented ❤
Honestly, it feels like you give show more credit that they deserve. But appreciate your video. I’m on book 10 right now, started reading after seeing first episode of show but haven’t finished first season beyond 5th series, found it too different and felt like my favourite moment in the book wasn’t even showed. But thanks to show I actually stumbled on this gem of book series
"Blood on the Rocks....ain't no surprise. Just pour me a drink, and I'll tell you some lies..." Sorry, just couldn't resist. Astute observations as always Lauren. Thanks again for sharing them with us! Can't wait for the next round. And I won't lie, your videos are half the reason I am gonna watch season 2. Keep up the great work!
Great work as always!
Wohoooo! Loved the video! And so excited for season 2! 👌
Thank you! I'm so excited for s2 too!
Your channel has kept me from becoming pessimistic about the show, and not just out of copium. Looking forward to your next video and season 2!
That's wonderful news. I certainly have my issues with s1. I just want to stay hopeful. I am a WoT fan after all, in all of its forms!
I wish there was more prophecy in the show. That is one of my favorite parts of the books.
Fun vid as always. Thanks Lauren.
Thank you for watching!
This is very helpful. Sadly I’m still pretty negative about the show overall. I’ve unfollowed many fan sites but I’ve kept following you because of the quality of your videos and your perspective. It’s helped me decide to watch season 2. I’m hopeful, but not full of hope for an improvement.
I really hope there is improvement!
As always, immaculate, organized, and convincing. Bravo.
Thanks so much!
if in the show the only way to channel true power is near the seals when they were whole then s2 needs to show affects of Dark one on Randland.
I still wish we got the chilling borderland winter but I'll be ok if s2 shows some extreme weather events bc of DO
Great video.
finding some nuggets of detail like these myself while rewatching are why I have high hopes for s2 without a pandemic and recast messing the script.
Exactly, it's not a bad show and Rafe + screenwriters + the cast, etc. definitely care about the books/world/characters. Just some things got in the way of the execution to amplify what should have been relatively minor mistakes.
Every time I see one of your videos its like sitting down to hear someone with a PHD in all things Wheel of Time and with an eye for often overlooked details and an ability to articulate in an easy to understand way talk about the series. I will admit that when I first watched the series it was not exactly what I was expecting but when I got over episodes not playing out exactly as I expected I quite enjoyed re watching the episodes. It could certainly have benefited from more episodes to get to know the characters and the whole 'who is the dragon reborn' required Rand to almost disappear into the background but I know that mystery really hooked a non book reader friend who watched the series and who is now reading through the books. To get renewed and tell the full story the show runner needs to attract a lot bigger an audience that hard core WOT book fans. I think the cast absolutely nail the characters they are playing. And for those who say that the showrunner doesn't care about RJ's story, as demonstrated in this video they sure seem to like putting in subtle details in various scenes that make a lot of sense if you have book reader insight. If that's not a love of the series I'm not sure what is.
On the black threads emanating from or two "the man" in the episode 8 my two cents is that he was using what True Source to thread cracks into the hearthstone and then directs Rand's One Power blast into those threads or conduits to split apart the seal, a bit like water poured into cracks in a stone then quickly frozen. Its a stretch but could using one source of power to direct the flows of another source of power be a foreshadowing of what Rand did with Saidin & Saidar to cleanse the taint?
Thank you for the kind words. I love your thoughts on how it plays out in the end and how it relates to the cleansing of saidin!
@@UnravelingthePattern You are very welcome. I really enjoy your content. Plus another thing to consider is Rand gets his first channeling lesson from "the man" aka the forsaken Ishy. It is a stretch to say that might give him an idea of where to find a trainer when he needs to master his channeling?
Yes! Love that idea.
Thank you for the great analysis Lauren
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Lauren, this is awesome!!
Ever wondered if Ishamael was just projecting himself to the eye waiting for rand to blast just a projection? He was still able to channel, but maybe that's another liberty taken for the show?
I like this idea!
Excellent analysis of all the foreshadowing.
Thanks! There's a lot more where that came from!
I guess you've convinced me to give the show another go.
Great video, Lauren.
So good!
As always a great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Brilliant video as always. You never fail to amaze. And thank you for the shoutout. (I'm zushef29) :D
Thanks for the awesome insight!
Your videos are always so well done. Super happy for you. And jealous. But happy for you 😅
Haha, I know the feeling, you're amazing! Thanks so much for the kind words!
@@UnravelingthePattern you should make a video about making awesome videos haha
@@KritterXD most of it is super boring. Writing and re-writing. Recording and re-recording VO. Searching for art and trying to find original artists for hours and hours on Google. Editing a million cuts and fades and text layers.... then releasing it to the world and questioning every decision I made and losing sleep because I'm my worst critic. It's super fun!
@@UnravelingthePattern hahaha…what software do you use for editing? My n00b a$$ uses iMovie. I assume you’re more advanced 😝
@@KritterXD I use Adobe Premiere and After Effects professionally for work and for my channel. I studied media and video editing in school and have taught Adobe After Effects and motion graphics at BYU for almost 15 years.
I can only imagine the final final battle being done. Its up there with the cleansing of Saidain and the healing of madness and when Rand does his 'one with the land' moments. But yeah, the final battle is going to be soo cool.
Also, as an aside, I have no reason why CZcams suddenly decided today to show me Wheel of Time videos, but your stuff is fun.
Thanks!
Wonderful!
I'm dubious that the show really put that clearing-the-rocks thing in there as foreshadowing. HOWEVER, it's still nice foreshadowing, intentional or not. You did a great job pointing it out!
Fair enough. I do think a lot of thought goes into more than you think, but yeah, it could just be something for Rand to do while they chat there for sure.
I believe Perrin's wife was a darkfriend and was intending to brain him. That would be an interesting reveal next season.
I thought this too, but I'm pretty sure the writers said that wasn't the case. It doesn't make sense to me why she was lifting up her arms in that way as if she was about to hit Perrin with her hammer though.
Another Great Episode! Ive read these books only once all the way thrugh, because i couldnt get them all at once. Read 1-6, then 1-8, then 1-8(again!), then 1-10, and finally 1-14. Whew!
So, the black trailings of The True Power under Ishmaels feet( I will NOT call him,"Ishy", lol) are his direct connection to the Dark Lord, so that Saidin/Saidar(even tainted) cannot break Cuendillar, but The True Power can. Its how he seals it in the end. He needs the Sha'itans Power to do those things The One Power cant.
I hope i diddnt get The One /True Power mixed up. I cant seem to get them straight, ever. srry. Still wont call him Ishy. Where did THAT start?
I need more! :D
More is on the way!!!
Well done Lauren, another masterpiece. Your work is unparalleled in the fandom.
Agree with your call outs here and as you say there are certainly more there. They've stacked it with foreshadowing like RJ did and to me that shows more than anything else that they 'get it'.
I'd missed the rubble one before so thanks for highlighting it, very interesting. Cheers
Thank you for the high praise! I have a whole list of other things I found and will be making 1-2 more videos in this series!
@@UnravelingthePattern I'll look forward to them thanks.
#3 when Egwene and Perrin are with the Tinkers in Ep 4, she's wearing a shawl striped in the 7 colors. Lezbi Nerdy codes this in her costume analysis series.
Great reminder! I was going to use that as an example, but then I saw the "sex blanket" and used that instead, haha.
I love egweyne
All well and good but I won't have hope until I see it for my own eyes. Season one was good but still a bit of a let down at the end. It remains to be seen of that was due solely to Barney leaving and the pandemic. I cross my fingers as I wait for season two.
Honestly, I think you are HEAVILY reaching on some of these actually being any intentional foreshadowing or symbolism of anything. You can do mental gymnastics and attribute meaning to almost anything. Similar happens all the time when discussing symbolism in literature classes.
Yeah, that's fair. I know some of it is a stretch. But there is a lot more foreshadowing in the show, and I do believe many of these things were done intentionally. I think many of RJ's foreshadowing things seemed like nothing until hindsight. I'm hopeful that the show keeps all of these details in-mind throughout the run of the series.
“Wait and hope…”
Talk about going down the rabbit hole mate. Yes I agree there was a lot of foreshadowing in the show just like the books. The only trouble is for the non book readers or people that just started the books. We just have to hope the show keeps on going so we get the pay off.
Well, just like re-reading the books, hopefully we make it to the end of the series in the show and people will get to appreciate the foreshadowing more!
@@UnravelingthePattern I do believe you missed 1 of the biggest foreshadowing the show offered. That was between Mat and his mum(mom I am an aussie so spelt different) and what she said to him about with the way his father was with women. It will show Mat will have his way with women even when married.
@@stormsend4966 That's a great one! It's on my list for a future video!
@AbsentDay No it was not stated that is correct. Even his taste in women changed. But it more that he could had slept around if he wanted to.
My favorite foreshadowing was cancelling Amazon for this adaptation before rings of power came out.
You're so funny. You should be a comedian!
Wish I could watch this. Been enjoying your videos a lot recently but can't watch something with complete spoilers.
I'm sorry, but it's really for the best! I'll have more spoiler-light content soon!
@@UnravelingthePattern No need to apologize ofc! I'm a new WoT fan, I'd never heard of it before the first season and now I can't get enough. Just finished book 3 in time for the next season and I'm super excited
👍🏻👍🏻
It's sad to see how badly this show has divided the wheel of time fandom
What do black asar for?
Sorry, not sure what you mean.
The show definitely follows the books more closely than people seem to think. They confuse "accuracy from the books" with "accuracy to the books." The vast majority of things we've seen on the screen are straight from the books. But a ton of what's in the books didn't make the show. That doesn't make the show inaccurate. It makes it more streamlined.
Also, I feel like you're stretching on a few of these things as foreshadowing. Rand clears the road because it gives him a reason to draw his bow quickly and skillfully and show his character as someone who doesn't just walk past a mess. Anything more is probably unlikely to be intentional. Same with the Nyneave stuff through Egwene. That would be confusing foreshadowing.
Still, interesting points to consider.
Good analysis there is a lot of great things in the show. I really liked about 60% of the show, was meh on about 20% and really disliked 20%.
My main gripe was the inconsistentcy, ie, shielding logain individually then at the end of episode they link🤷♂️. Nynaeve womansplaining tracking to Lan, the massive power creep with Rand's sa-angreal (which I thought was either going to Moraines angreal from book 1 or the Fatman angreal Rand finds in Tear), the 4 linked women killing ~5000 trollocs🤷♂️, and finally too many fake out deaths (loial, thom, inktar etc...)
I'm fine with the change of direction Moraine being main character, the aging up the characters, the pace (which was too fast, 2hour episode 1 and 2 extra episodes could have fixed that).
I have hopes they fix some things in season 2, but overall I am pleased with the show. I was expecting much worse due to the massive amount of material and honestly RJ lost direction big time around crown of swords, so hopefully they can make a great show that is built on the books framework.
I agree with a lot of your thoughts, though I think there was probably only about 5-10% that I really disliked. I'm hopeful that they'll course correct for season 2. I appreciate you taking the time to write out a thoughtful comment with your opinions. I love comments like this!
The power creep isn't really an issue with the women killing the trollocs. Remember that Egwene and Nynaeve, two female channelers with some of the greatest raw strength in the One Power were part of the circle. That's a lot of saidar being channeled.
The aes sedai are really dwindling in numbers in the books, so there aren't many of them who are trained AND come close to Egwene and Nynaeve's strength in the One Power. If you put enough of them in the circle, you'll be able to decimate an army of 5000 trollocs too.
Yes, and they foreshadowed this concept when yelling the story if Eldrine, so I think it checks out.
I hope your faith isn’t misplaced! They haven’t earned it from me yet. Good video regardless.
I hope so too! 😅
The ads though.
Love your channel but how much is Amazon paying you? They butchered it.
Lol, I wish I was getting paid.
Why everyone calls it the True Source. The True Power is the Dark One's power which only the Nebliss is gifted with it. Saidin and Saidar are the two parts of The One Power, which the show doesnt present. In fact, it is why the One Power splits in two is the reason why the world is in this mess, else there were no need for the Legends to try to Bore to the True Power ... Its just ... only the name of the Characters and the Series are the same. That is another story ... not Jorden's one/
You might want to read the books again. The True SOURCE is where the One Power comes from. The True POWER, as you say and as I said in this video, comes from the Dark One.
No hate but the show was really inaccurate
The TV show have nothing to do with the books
My real problem is wasting 1.5 episodes on a dead aes sedai and pointless warder instead of developing characters that matter.
The BIG secret is that the TV show has nothing to do with the story Robert Jordan wrote. Abomination
Just because it wasnt what you hoped it would be, doesnt mean it doesnt have anything to do with the story that RJ wrote
I can't believe how blind show haters are to the similarities between show and books. I've seen this comment or a variation of it a thousand times now. It's sad that people who somehow managed to read a 14+ book series don't seem to remember anything that's in it.
Different journey, yet the same destination.