Bill Maher: "Police Culture Has To Change"
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Bill Maher Hit the Nail on the Head with this.
Thumb* everything that he said can be contradicted
The one absolute thing Maher hit on the head that I agree with is cops, good or bad, always protect their own and that's where the distrust comes from. People have their rights violated every day in this country and they feel powerless. Even when a good cop with a conscience (Joe Crystal for example) reports the wrong doing of a bad cop the good cop is labeled a "rat", gets harrassed by his fellow officers and is run out of the department. Before anything changes cops need to start policing themselves better and holding themselves to a higher standard. They're supposed to be the professionals here.
mature of you
I talked to a police officer who said that part of her training was getting pepper sprayed in the eyes and running through a course. What kind of training is that?
and the heads of the nails are hurting!
Bill Maher is one of the last people on TV that actually makes sense
Are you serious?
Are you? As far as people today with talk shows - Kimmel, Fallon, Colbert, Meyers - yeah I think he makes the most sense out of all of them.
sdwhitesox By talking shit about our police? His liberal brain has been washed by black lives matter.
I agree with him when he says "the police department cannot be revenge for high school"...the government should pay police officers more and increase testing/training so that less idiots get into positions of authority. I knew someone in high school that was schizophrenic, threatened to kill people, claimed to see angels etc, and today he's a police officer for one of the major departments in our city. The system has to improve so that we don't let morons into positions of authority - but I'll actually take it a step further....to be honest I don't think the system will ever work, because groups like black lives matter hold onto anger from over 150 years ago and don't allow us to create an unbiased system where race isn't an issue. We've had enough time as a country - the idea that different races and cultures can live together in peace is nonsense, black lives matter is basically the antithesis of the kkk, which like Maher says, isn't okay but does make sense - when you have a hate group associated with one race, you're going to get another hate group associated with another race.
The ridiculous part is that they target white police officers that they don't even know, instead of actually targeting members of the KKK or the individual officers who actually killed the person, which creates a race war.
This was aired 3 years ago.... interesting to see the similar pattern today.
IKR?! I’m here today too with protests and riots across the country! Wow. If they only knew what the death of George Floyd would bring us. And the fact that the police don’t even use a gun to kill anymore. #icantbreathe
As long as Racism is deep rooted in American culture nothing will change. Trump has only made Racists in America feel protected and validated.
Jacob Black Don’t think its gonna blow over this time. Hopefully we can END THE DRUG WAR!
I didn't even realize it was from 3 years ago. It's scary the same thing is happening today. I was also wondering why they weren't wearing face masks.
Because nothing's changed between then and now.
Bill Maher stunned Stephen Colbert so much, because he talked straight, that he actually didn't even know what to say at end of the clip. Only Bill can do that!
Did you see the first time BIll was on? Colbert trivialised a lot of points he was making with jokes and also interrupted him a lot. I get the feeling in this interview that Colbert was aware of that and was pulling back a lot in this interview to allow Maher more space. I think Colbert had a lot of responses whizzing around in his mind...but didn't voice them. I admire him for that and Maher was able to put his views across more completely here. Just my humble opinion.
I don't even see this as all that awkward, I just think that for once in a blue moon there is a profound discussion on this show and the audience is just listening
I agree. I think this is better then the vapid celebrity interviews Colbert does.
oh good, it's not just me... nice to see people with common sense still exist... i was beginning to worry...
+Adairia we are with you. we stay in the shadows because we are outnumbered lol
It started becoming awkward towards the end...
Agreed it’s a shame it’s with a comedian and not with someone of value. These late night hosts get a politician on and they ask them about their dog
Average US police training: 19 weeks.
European police *education*: Minimum, yes _minimum_ 3 years.
If that does not scare you to death, read it again until it does.
You can master a completely new language in 6 months. It's really not the length of the training but what the students get out of it. Also just because training ends doesn't mean that learning stops.
We are talking about police education and you compare it to military training. Do you view american police as military soldiers? Those two serve a completely different purpose. Military get respect because of their rifles, police should get respect without any guns whatsoever.
It's scary, but you have to realize that the US has a MUCH higher need for police enforcement than Europe. We have a much larger population and far more crime than any European nation.
I did not refuse to acknowledge anything. If you want to participate in a serious debate, you should brush up on your debating skills. Try googling "Logical Fallacies".
19 weeks? that cant be true????
The truth will make any crowd go silent.
It's not the truth, it just *rings* true, because he talks in a solemn way and all. That's just Bill's schtick. But once you dissect it, his arguments have a lot of holes.
First of all, no one should "understand" killing random cops. If Bill wanted to advocate vigilantism, then at least kill the cops you think got away with murder, not just random cops, that's just stupid.
Second, there have two major studies done on the police killing unarmed arrestees. Both showed cops were no more likely to kill a black person than a white who resists arrest and get violent. Actually, they were slightly more likely to kill the white dude. Not only that, but the black cops are more likely to shoot black suspects than white cops are.
Also, how would you expect a crowd to react to talks of shooting cops and death and all? Yes, those are sad and depressing subjects, so they'll remain silent. Doesn't make what he said true.
@@nonmagicmike723 First of all. Bill doesn't say that we should "understand" the killing of police nor does he advocate for "vigilantiasm". He simply said that when you kill unnamed people, you shouldn't be surprise when people strike back. He was speaking from his point of view and not trying to make the killing of police something we all should understand.
Secondly, what studies have shown that police doesn't kill more black people than white people?? If that was the case, black lives matter wouldn't exist nor would white people be quiet about it. And the whole point of police killing unarmed back people isn't bcuase they are necessarily resisting arrest, but about even when they cooperate, they still get shot and killed.
Leoson Bentley well I don't know what studies he's mentioning specifically, but too be fair he didn't say police kills less blacks than whites. He just said they are no more likely to kill a black person than a white when the suspect gets violent & resists arrest.
Why does black life matters exist? Hmm let's see maybe because the media jumps on any story & runs with it before all the facts come out. If they know it will cause outrage that means more viewers. If it causes a protest all the better because that will give them something solid they can continue to report on.
A perfect example was that whole hands up don't shoot. They took the word of the suspects friend over actually talking to the police to see if they can get the footage of the situation. The guy got into a struggle with an officer & went for his gun. The footage may not be the best but it made it clear it wasn't some innocent kid that was following the officers orders & still got shot. I'm not saying situations like that can't or haven't happened, but most of the stories they show on the news gets framed the way they want it.
Since people are too lazy to look into the context of the situation & what actually happened. They see a 30 second clip with an officer who appears to cross the line & the comments & shares start flying.
If you want to actually look into police encounters to see why the did what they did I recommend checking out the donut operators channel. He breaks down every police shooting that makes the news & some that dont. Also ASP, that channel is more about self protection, but you'll get a better idea of what the cops have to go through while making split life & death decisions.
You'll see about that poor unarmed kid who was shot in his grandma's backyard. I'm sure you know that story from the news. They just knew it would be a headline & ran with it. Disregarding that the kid was fleeing from police so they had no idea that the fence he hopped led to his grandma's house. It's hard to see from the badge cam but when you slow it down you can clearly see the kid pull something out & get into a shooting stance. The officers had every right to assume it was a gun. After the shooting you can hear the two officers talking & it's pretty clear they really thought he had a gun.
I'm not saying there aren't bad cops out there, just that the news needs to do a way better job reporting it. They have without a doubt made matters worse when they just run with a story like that.
@@leosonbentley2770 Black Lives Matters exist, because the white liberal oligarchs that control the movie, music, fashion, porn, late night talk shows, social media companies/silicon valley etc. ran out of CA, D.C, NY, Washington need to push narratives that victimize blacks for votes in order to win elections to further push their own agenda and sell themselves as a solution. It also pays quite well with the views that it generates so of course it's prioritized over other topics even if it means making the "story" into something it's not. Wealthy white liberals just use blacks for votes and money. Malcolm X said the same thing. Google it
A lot of the individuals that fueled the movement also were resisting arrest. The guy selling cigarettes in NY. The unarmed teen that had just robbed a store, strangled the clerk, and then charged a cop that already had his gun drawn. The teen was also well over 6 foot and 225+ lbs. Trayvon that caused so much fuss got in his house and called his friend to explicitly tell him that he was going back outside to fight Zimmerman. He shouldn't have died, but how do justify intentionally going out of your way to fight a security guard that's trying to do their job when you know they're also armed? While he was a teen, I think Trayvon was also 6 foot so saying a cop killed a "kid" doesn't really hold a lot of weight. Blacks also have a tendency to claim something was done because of the individual's skin color even when it's not due to the past and their own paranoia. It's like the girl that gets cheated on and then has to have the password to every guy's phone that she dates afterwards
The movement was more about unarmed individuals than necessarily "innocent" ones. You also make shit money to put your life on the line for people that you don't know. As someone that is related to a cop that now has PTSD from from an altercation that put him in the hospital in which an "unarmed" individual attempted to grab his gun from him, I don't blame cops for being arguably overly jumpy or paranoid. I've spoke to a cop that almost shot a child out of reaction walking around a corner due to the child pointing a toy gun at them, the child not immediately dropping it, and the cop not knowing that it was fake. Are you putting your life on the line everyday for $50,000 a year, because I doubt it?
None of this argument acknowledges why these perceptions of blacks by police exist to begin with. Please explain why 54% of homicide offenders are black and 43% are white despite blacks only making up around ~20% of the population and whites making up ~%60 percent. This means a black person is 3-4 times more likely to kill someone. When cops are the ones that have to deal with these individuals, you don't think they're conscious of this?
ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/expanded-homicide
@@nonmagicmike723 Cop's kill random people everyday.. Especially random black or brown people... FACT...
Watching this after the murder of George Floyd and with what's happening in Minneapolis, Bill is 100% correct here.
And he is not afraid to say why people react angrily and not in a way that fox news finds comfortable:
"I don't condone it but I understand it. You can only look at so many videos of shooting of unarmed black people, I'm surprised actually this didn't happen before" - Maher.
Still two sides. Chauvin versus the world. ...And just like Rodney King, we still have no clue about "suspension of judgment" before all relevant facts are in or considered. And the principle of "innocent before proven guilty" has been thrown out the window due to all the armchair judges out there making life-or-death decisions on what they see on their smartphone.
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Sheesh, America has really gone down the fuckin' tubes. I would hate to be the defense attorney for Chauvin. ...I bet everyone is saying no so they don't get shot.
@@brianhack5806 it was 4 on 1 he was on the ground how could he possibly be scared for his life how the hell is this justifiable
Brian Hack Of course there’s two sides to every story the right side in the wrong side. The dudes a piece of shit some of these assholes think they can just do whatever they want. And luckily we live in a time when they can be filmed. It’s just sad that the last moments of another man are on film now for the world to see.
@@brianhack5806 So in spite of what the entire world saw, you're willing to give Derek Chauvin the benefit of the doubt but I have a feeling you *never* give the countless black men brutalized and killed that same benefit of the doubt!
George Floyd is no hero
I actually love the tension between these guys.
same here... it's real. not this fake gag real.
Its creates real dialouge especially when they are both people of substance.
It was interesting to see Colbert trying to go a little PC there. Correctly so, he needed to make Maher say again that he does think Dallas was a tragedy, otherwise he would have been destroyed later. And Maher did.
This might be a stupid question but why don't they like each other? Shouldn't they be best friends, religious views aside?
+The Burrard Street Journal people are silly. what tension? They tend to agree on almost everything....he brought him on the show and let him talk...just threw in a few jokes cus it was getting heavy and he's a comedian...
Wow... listen to how silent the audience is at times.
The people support the cops over BLM movement. Maher rhetoric supports BLM ppl are annoyed with BLM
Uncomfortable truths are often annoying.
Not at all. It's that Maher has a way of sounding like a jackass with no subtlety at all, even when he is right. Even if he said the opposite, no one would like what he says (he has kind of become more of a jerk over time).
Uncomfortable truths are often annoying
Yeah I notice that also... Is that a confirmation that they're thinking I don't give a fuck what cops do to them as long as they don't treat me or my family like that?!?
Bill was spitting facts like this 3yrs ago? I need to educate myself on this guy a little bit more
You won’t regret it he has a great show, although the lack of an audience hampers things at the moment. If you haven’t seen it recommend religulous his film
@@nigeh5326 indeed, bill is awesome
Especially how prescient he was about Trump and the whole post-election debacle.
Yeah...I've just started to tune into him and I gotta say...he is courageous and bold and so essential these days in a fearful and timid industry where presenters and celebrities are afraid to speak their truth.
I have so much respect for Maher. That guy is not afraid to tell the truth, even if his views might be seen as politically incorrect. And yet, he can speak the truth while maintaining class and respect for those about which he speaks. What a great guy.
This is what I wanted when I said I wanted someone who would "Tell it like it is", not the jackass in the white house who can't seem to go a day without telling a painfully blatant lie. What were they thinking when they voted for him?
Most interesting clip from this show I've ever seen....
dislike and report. move along
Loved this interview. I would love to see Bill appear on this show more often.
oh, yess! Awesome television!!
That's unlikely coz Colbert doesn't know how to manage him and can't match wits with him. Colbert was not very impressive in this segment at all, and I thought he was supposed to be brighter than this.
+peggy olson Colbert is not the man he was before his deal with CBS. He can't just say whatever comes to mind, he's a TV Late Show host now.
Fuck off
I feel like it was more than just Bill's presence. Colbert made an effort to do a real interview. I think he was a little rusty, but I wish he would get into real talk with people that have good things to say more often.
This aged well.....
Indeed...
Colbert comes across so much worse in this interview now. Deflecting every valid criticism of the police with "But their jobs are hard."
Yep
@@AirsoftTim92 Agreed, I love Colbert but Maher hit the nail on the head, I also think Colbert looking back would agree he was wrong,
@@AirsoftTim92 I think Colbert serves as more of an entertaining satire then a voice of political conscious. I think 9 times out of 10 Stephen is the coolest, sharpest guy in the room but then Bill Maher let's him know who's boss
I thought this was current. No. Its four years old. Then George Floyd happened. Is this groundhog day?
Bill Maher is one of the most honest men on TV period. I do not agree with him a lot of the time. Especially on religion as i strongly believe in God. However, i must say he does not care. He will always say the truth.
Same here
You could also say he DOES care, because he will always say the truth (or what he believes is the truth)
I don't know about "the truth" but he'll say what he believes to be truth.
I would disagree. The man is incredibly intellectually dishonest. He subscribes to honesty only until it doesn't work out in his way. Kind of like Trump.
If you noticed on his shows, he has a disgusting tendency to quickly cut off people who're making more sense than him. I've seen enough episodes of him being outwitted and then proceeding to pander to his audience for half-witted laughter.
Take this one episode with Dinesh D'Souza for example. He brought out D'Souza and decided to blame him for having a part in him getting fired off his show for his 9/11 comments. When D'Souza corrected him and declared that Bill's "coward" comments got him fired, Bill went on to do what he always does best - avoid actual discourse by pulling out the "comedy card".
He's been doing this longer than either Jon or Stephen, and yet no one gives a crap about him. Why's that surprising?
Kineridge I wasn't talking about D'Souza's disposition; I was talking about Bill's. Making sarcastic remarks after being called out on his own mistakes was just downright shameful. Being the host, trying to turn the audience against the guest is a tad bit shameful
Bill is absolutly right here. love him so much
When you say things like this do you walk away thinking you made a good point, or explained yourself well? Because you shouldn't.
+Nleeklee Polowteehow Bro just stop you're making an ass out of yourself, it's okay to express your opinion but don't try to enforce it on other, especially with all those words that you call "English".
you said absolutely nothing.
He absolutely nailed it. He summarized the whole issue succinctly and accurately.
+Jay Zenitram what?! No he didn't lol. He needs to clarify himself because he just typed a whole bunch of words but that lead nowhere. I can say I agree with bill and he made such a good point. When a group (cops) continually kill innocent people and gets caught, it's only a matter of time those same innocent people will take their anger and retaliate. That's just a fact. Bill was right on the money here
He hasn't added or changed his opinion in 4 years
Haste him or love him , he is flat out right
Haste?
@@Aj-nc6rp typo hate i meant
I'm surprised at myself. I'm a Christian and I used to really hate Bill Maher. I would avoid his show all costs. But now, I find myself liking him more and more. He criticizes both liberals and conservatives. No one is above reproach and criticism - I think Christ would agree with that.
Maher is a liberal relic from before the massive regression we see today. I may not agree with all of his viewpoints, but he's logical, and calls out the illogical trash we see the conservatives and regressive left throwing about; I respect him for that.
He has ALWAYS criticized both sides and spoken the uncomfortable truths... it's just that he comes of as such an arrogant prick...
2 Thumbs Up. Or Down?
First, Jesus said you shouldn't have hate in ypur heart. Second, Jesus was a liberal. He feed, clothed, and healed people for free. Something that the upper class wasn't so found of back in his era.
That's the problem with worship. There goal is to keep people from thinking in order to control them
You need to give up this Christian thing. Christianity is a hoax...fake news...does not exist! No God. No jesus. No moses. Noah's ark is a myth.
These guys have a hate-hate relationship.
I love it.
I was trying to figure what was happening, 'cause it felt awkward so thanks for sharing your insight... I wasn't sure if Stephen was agreeing with Bill and was trying to stay neutral or if he hated Bill. I think the more I watch... Stephen might not like Bill.
I'd say it's more like Hate-Love-Hate-Love, if that makes any sense. They have lots of disagreements, starting with religious or ideological philosophies, but again, compared to how wide media is spread out, they have lots in common and understand one another, and there's always that effective chemistry, even when they may not be on the same page with one another.
+Ali Gh I would say it's more tv
I think so. They're very different people with different personalities and Maher has ego and self-righteousness to burn. It makes for an interesting dynamic though.
Watching the last interview Bill had in the Late Show I would've sworn this two would never meet again
Really good point- I felt similarly. In that prior interview, Maher was really pissed at Colbert's non chalance.
+quicksite I kept ignoring the suggestion to watch this video in the youtube home screen because I was utterly convinced it was an old post. I have to admit I'm glad the apparent lack of chemistry in their last encounter was all in our head.. I like them both with their virtues and flaws :D
I don't think it is all in anyone's head. There are enough commenters here remarking about Colbert's way toned down critiques on all areas of society he used to skewer on Colbert Report -- that where there's smoke, there must be some fire. Others point out Colbert can't be as free in expressing himself given this is now a huge CBS Entertainment show, and as such, he has many people to please, including CBS brass and sponsors. Bill doesn't have to censor himself - or rather, he COULD, but he's not an equivocating talking head like almost everyone in TV News at every network- and he chooses to not censor his honest thoughts. ... This in turn makes Colbert a little uncomfortable because he can't go mano a mano in an equally free way. He's filtering himself now in a a hundred ways.
I'm not blaming him, mind you, it's a huge responsibility on Colbert's head. Nevertheless, it appears to me that, based on both that prior appearance and on this recent appearance that Maher has lost some respect for Colbert- keenly aware Colbert is doing some of this equivocating because of the demands on him to be "fair & balanced" so to speak for mainstream audiences, and keep sponsors happy.
They are both exceedingly bright & observant. But Bill Maher remains the consistent Bill Maher of the past 25 years. Colbert is the inconsistent one now. He won't allow himself to be as outspoken as he was on The Report. That's kind of sad. An economic reality. But still sad nonetheless. Fallon's a light-weight, though a funny one. Kimmel's equally bright, but likes to keep things entertaining, so even though he CAN do a serious interview, he's more likely than not to wisecrack throughout it.
FInally, my own thought: I was very curious how Colbert was going to be on his new show... Afterall, he's going up against two other funny hosts of late night TV. .... He's definitely softer now. I do like that he has onto his show more culturally important guests than just the usual fare. In that way he has distinguished himself.
Not sure how to take it, I know I can be smug with my friends and I don't like that part of me ..... I would hope they realize going down that road will turn some of us away.... In regards to the fact that if Stephen is doing it just to get ratings or because he may have some ego issues that have become part of his own personality through being in the public eye.... they are many ways to debate and be funny without being demeaning. On a more positive note
I do appreciate what they are discussing and hope some good can come from exposing this way of thinking to the large media audience Stephen enjoys.
Their interactions are just too good to not bring back!
Maher could easily live a life of privilege insulated from the unpleasantness the rest of us have to face every day. After all that's what most other rich celebrities do and it doesn't seem to cost them anything, or affect their credibility. He could stay silent, not rock the boat, make token gestures to ease his conscience, but he doesn't. I have to respect that. As much as I disagree with him on certain things I respect that he obviously still cares enough to speak up.
Well, unlike a lot of celebrities, Maher didn't grow up rich, or even well off. He knows a bit more about being poor than most people in his position.
+Geahk Burchill I bet he still lives behind a wall.and has body guards.
Given you guys have a billionaire in the white house. I am sure he'll change everything.
I dunno man. Hea arrogant, hes pigheaded and he makes his mobry saying outragious things... he needs to keep going.
Watch his show most weeks, and am a fan... AND none of what I just said is untrue
aintwurfnufnifitaintfree ❤️ agreed
3 years later and we’re rioting.
Aye a white person who understands #blacklivesmatter. Rare!!!
+Jay Smith oh god
#bluelivesmatter
all lives matter? yall are stupid picking sides like this.. what's the difference between a cops life and a black person life.. how about a Mexican life? omish life? what's the difference.. a life is a life there all equally important and everyone taking sides is you saying that you think just one life matters and the rest don't... don't feed into the Bullshit people... your just as bad as these people killing innocent people over nothing
There shouldn't be any life taking in the first place... that's the point... a cop shouldn't automatically pull his gun over his taser in a bad situation and a black community shouldn't get together to kill a bunch of cops... do you really see how this isn't solving anything? Just making it worse... fighting fire with fire just makes a bigger fire
It seems that "common" sense isn't so common after all
Bill Maher is brilliant, and he's not wrong.
Maher is quite frequently wrong, but that does not make him less funny :)
He may not be wrong, but he is being very one sided. If a comedian's audience threw bottles at him and smashed his skull and he went to the club owner pissed off and the club owner said, "Thats the job!" That club owner is an asshole. I feel like BLM is so one sided that they ignore and cover up facts. The other side has a hard time seeing BLMs point of view because people get defensive when they feel attacked.
Agreed. He is 100% correct. Most people are too afraid of retaliation to call out police for their behavior.
Brilliant? He had no idea what to say so he rambled off a few cliche statements. You call this brilliant? Lol
Right or wrong, he certainly did not ramble off a few cliche statements.
I'm pretty anti-liberal on most things, but Maher is spot-on here that the police culture has to change. The training needs to change and there needs to be much more accountability when an officer is accused of abusing their power. There also needs to be a body camera on every officer that is used anytime there's an interaction with the public.
The problem is they either turn off the body cam or the footage conveniently becomes lost.
+In_Correct also once facial recognition and other video scanning tech comes in it is a privacy risk.
The official Black Lives Matter policy page doesn't fully endorse body cams
I would think holding the police/government accountable would be the conservative opinion. They're the ones always yelling about the constitution.
Romulus I I agree. But the problem is the "Conservative Media" (FOX, OANN, etc.) is Pro-Police, no matter what. They say that The Police are always supposed to be innocent.
You're anti-liberal? So you're anti-freedom? Because liberty is just another word for freedom.
Bill Maher always manages to cut through the B.S. and get to the real root of the issue. He is a model of clarity on most issues he tackles.
Only for people who have ZERO grasp/experience of the issue and all the context and nuances involved.
He's right when he said the police department couldn't be revenge for high school
The biggest, most racist asshole in my high school had dreams of being cop, go figure.
That's a too wide brush to paint with :P
+ConfrontationalRealist umm...totally missed the point, dude. It's about the emotions & experience from high school that you take with you wherever you end up. High school "location" is totally irrelevant!!!!!! you obviously learned a lot in high school. Don't call ppl "fucking stupid" when you don't understand.
He's half right. It's the nerds AND the bullies that sometimes gravitate towards the police force. One looking for power that he never had, and another looking to maintain what he had and apply it legally through an institution that always looks out for its own. I dont apply this to all cops, but I do believe that all police forces are old boys clubs.
+Lee Stringer nerds don't wanna be policemen dude that's why they are studying so hard lol
Colbert left him hanging one too many times
I think he was letting it resonate
Colbert is a very thoughtful man and it's not easy to come up with a quick response or question to "new" thoughts/perspectives especially when it's such a delicate topic. Might be wrong but that's my take.
Michael Moretti You're not paying attention
to me he seems emotional about the subject. not angry at bill.
well yeah because that's not how a good interview usually works.
Cops are trained in America. The problem is that they're trained with reflex techniques, not assessment techniques. That is to say, they are trained to act on reflex, not critical thought.
reflex is one thing - outright murder is another..can anyone get into the mentality of someone willing to point a gun at a child and pull the trigger? - to say little of a government that stands by ant lets it happen..pretty frightening, isn't it.....
It doesn't matter how they are trained. everyone is responsible for their own actions. it says protect and serve and they don't do that thats why they get killed and arrested by few good cops and civilians.
Cops should be educated and have degrees like what is now demanded in Europe. It’s called intelligent policing.
He’s still saying the same thing four years later. He’s consistent
Shooting police is wrong, and shooting civilians that aren't threatening anyone's life is also wrong. It's weird this needs to be explained to people.
It doesn't need to be explained to anyone but for intelligent, thoughtful people the discussion goes beyond declaring whether it's right or wrong. That's not, and it shouldn't be, the end of the discussion.
Yeah. It's sad 😢
rape and lying and stealing are also wrong, for those who lack morals and common sense
*Shooting _innocent_ people is wrong....
Some say it's arguable if the person is not innocent......
Exactly
It's like Colberts afraid to get serious on his new show
He works at CBS now....
New show, LOL!
He isn't intelligent enough to have a serious thought.
CBS is more restrictive than Comedy Central. "Family Channel"
I feel like he's gonna end up going back to Comedy Central sooner rather than later tbh yeah it might be better paying but he can't be full "Stephen Colbert" like he was in the Colbert Report
"By the book? Well maybe you need a new book!" 5:00.
I admire how truthful Bill Maher is.
Don't you love it how anytime someone speaks the truth so plainly, they always ask you to clarify or reword it, so that everyone can swallow it easier. Bravo to Bill for not backtracking.
So True
It's not the truth. The two main studies done on police shootings show there's no bias on black men. Also, how would he know that cops go in as revenge for high school? That's just his opinion, not truth. And the whole "I understand you killing random cops" is dumb, if you want to go vigilante and exact revenge on those you think got away with murder, then kill the very cops who did it, not just random cops. Also, if any culture needs urgent change, it's anti-authority black culture.
Bill has a way of saying things that's true-sounding, but not necessarily true. A lot of things can ring true when said in a certain tone, or you get edgy about them. Don't be so imperssionable.
Guess it’s why his show is called real time... no bs
@@nonmagicmike723 Hope you've done some growing in the time of your comment.
@@lisarodriguez6966 Absolutely not. I still hate Bill and still have that view of the police. People don't change.
i never liked bill maher but i'm starting to agree more and more with what he says these days
One thing you gotta respect about bill is he calls it like he sees it. And he's not afraid to disagree with people.
He's an asshole, but he's also an asshole that's right about a lot of things and speaks up when others don't. He's also wrong about things too, but to err is human. We just have to make sure we all call each other out on our crap, like he's doing with police culture in some places.
He's always been intelligent and logical on almost everything he talks about but he's also pretty smarmy and abrasive. I can handle it but I like it most when he talks to someone like Colbert who is at least as intelligent as he is.
Really !
Good for you. Seriously. I love it when I see the light go on in people's heads.
Mahr is right on point on this
I was watching a guy who got suspended recently for shooting someone, see the amount of reprimands this guy had and they said he used to get beat up in school.
Colbert is way more conservative than he lets on
Maybe
You never caught him on Comedy Central???
His Brain is Big.... only diminished by his compassion
His BRAIN is RAZOR SHARP
Colbert is on CBS -They are conservative. Colberts jokey responses or just plain silence to Mahers controversial statements are proof of that. The #OutrageNation will take your job
Colbert's whole thing is to play devil's advocate. To get an idea of his real thoughts is to listen to his opening bits. But with his interviews he likes to throw in what the other side is saying...that's always been his thing which makes him a little different.
He’s a practicing Catholic who teaches Sunday school so yeah
"It's actually not, I have to make it good" sickest burn it talk show history!
Never seen Colbert burned so badly
it would be, if Bill was the only political show that was good.... Colbert REPORT KILLED Bill previous shows in rating and now Oliver is slaying Bill. Bill was NEVER in the top..... he is just bitter. ;)
I was thinking it before he said it. It wasnt that clever.
+Cary Chilton But ratings aren't necessarily indicative of quality. Last Week Tonight is great, the Colbert Report was great, and Real Time is great. I doubt he's bitter about it. Especially seeing how Bill's been at this for years and years and years.
He's an absolute douche. He's only on this show to help his show's ratings.
Colbert shouldn't invite him back.
Like Cary said, he's so damn bitter! Come back when you have an emmy. bye felicia
Colbert lost his edge. He used to be so sharp over at the Colbert Report, but now he got all soft fawning over stupid celebrities.
Unfortunately that's his job. CC is more open to controversial topics-- hell, they air South Park. Networks aren't going to let him. although he's still funny.
because he's doing the late show, not the colbert report
Also the guests on the show cater towards Hollywood celebrities coming to promote their products. Unlike The Stephen Colbert show where he can pick and choose the more intelligent guests to joust with.
nah, not really.... he definitely is told what not to do now, but he is in the TOP paid late night hosts, top rated show and cbs' show with Cordon is all about celebrity entertain. Colbert has celebs that he wants, but most guests are political or current even relevant or science related.
He has said before that on the Colbert Report he played a political character. He played hardball to test the beliefs of those he was interviewing. I miss it too but this is an entirely new setup.
Bill won this round. Period.
This definitely aged like fine wine.
I like Colbert and I like Maher, and seeing them together is like, in the words of one wrestling commentator, "an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object".
The quote is The irresistible force meeting the immovable object.
+Brandon Shaver no its unstoppable force
I would liked to have seen Jon Stewart have a conversation like the this one or the one with Rachel Maddow with Maher. Was he ever on the Daily Show, Maher?
An unstoppable force meeting an immovable object would just go right through it, nothing impressive.
that's the picture I have in my head every time I hear that saying
Bill Maher and Stephen Colbert are so funny together!
Liked. Why does he give him so much shit though?
Because Stephen kinda sold out and has to stick to middle-america humor... Bill goes at his own speed.
+TheTRUTH That and Bill Maher gives everyone shit. It's part of why he's funny.
CAN'T YOU FEEL THE CHEMISTRY!???!??
yeah, like the chemistry of a meth-lab
I agree more than ever with Bill, especially in the wake of Floyde.
Bill's right, perfect analogy with the priesthood.
Bill dropping mad controversial shit as always. The man is a legend!
strange times when facts as plain as the nose on your face are considered controversial.
I wish Bill Maher would run for president.
I'd support a Sanders/ Maher ticket.
You want to take a job he won't like.
President of Cuckville. Bill Maher is a leftist communist cock sucker that should move to the UK.
Yeah it would give us 2 pieces of shit in a row.
+Christopher Mcmurray drunk Irish dumbass
"You don't keep shooting people and expect no one to shoot back" Wow; that's the mother of all points!
"because i have to make it good" lol! He keeps it 100! 😂
LOL at Bill burning Colbert's show at the end
meh. He's just alright.
Eh, it was a joke and they both knew it. They are professionals.
Bill Maher often brings a magically pleasant hostility with him that I find ever more lovely. And his ability to charmingly sell an analogy as ribald as apt seems always present too. It's a pleasure to see these two interact.
Exactly !
what an arsehole Bill Maher is.
Black culture has to change....when they realize they are the source of their problems, they will make great strides in society.
more victim shaming
+A Wimpyman
Wait...Blacks were responsible for black codes, the convict lease program, lynching, Jim Crow, being excluded from the New Deal, redlining, Nixon flooding black neighborhoods with illegal drugs to marginalize us with Reagan following suit and the War on Drugs which was really a War on Black people etc...? Gee I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know.
+manansis86 criminals aren't victims
Cpt Falcon Yep and sometimes police can be criminals.
What an idiotic statement and obviously your belief. "Own source of their problems" is like saying the victims slain in Orlando or Dallas were the source of their problems. Sadly you have your information twisted but typical.
Once again Bill is 100% correct
Bill is a voice of reason.
Bill Maher is the definition of common sense
Félix Bibeau definition of a piece of shit!!
Really? Do you say that when he’s talking about guns, or when he talks about Republicans.
PLS Critic then you’re ignorant. Because he’s a typical liberal. He’s selective with his outrage and rights. Jordan Peterson would have a field day with him.
On this case yes. On some other subjects no. Like with most people. :)
@@thejasm4collection871 Jordan Peterson is a nutjob that have lost so much respect around the world with his trolling.
Bill isn't diminishing the tragedy, he's being bluntly honest.
Consider---This was FOUR YEARS ago. And what changed for all the law enforcement promises of reform? IT'S WORSE. Now what, wait and see for another 4 years? F that noise.
That audience must have been SO uncomfortable.
Total silence from them for most of Maher's comments.
I don't understand why people say " black behavior needs to change" because what is that supposed to mean? It just sounds so racist. Why can't people accept the fact that there is a problem? There are plenty of videos of other races of people not complying with police and they don't get shot, I mean even has far as physically fighting back police and they are eventually restrained and arrested alive! Smh. I pray this country gets it together , God only knows how bad we need unity.
amen
+daarrkmatter I agree
Maxwell Edison Hey look, ignorance in it's virgin form.
The question is whether or not blacks are being treated unfairly, relative to other races. There is a problem with police brutality but I don't see strong evidence of there being a race issue. There is very strong evidence that men are being treated unfairly by the justice system.
Banana Rama Hey look, you have nothing of value to contribute. Instead you just whine about what other people have said. Sad!
I agree with Bill Maher 100% on this one! I don't agree with his views on Muslims, Israel, and the Middle East at all, but he definitely took off his blinders when it comes to all these police shootings. Everybody seems to want to change the subject. Police killings of unarmed people in America is a SERIOUS problem and we should stay on topic.
17 unarmed blacks killed by cops in 2015. Guess how many whites? 17.
+Josiah Chacko The poster didn't say blacks. He said people.
***** Now guess what the % of blacks is in America - 13%.
But I do agree, these cop killings of unarmed civilians is not only blacks, like the media want us to believe. As a Latino, it SERIOUSLY bothers me when I see ANYBODY, regardless of race, get gunned down like a dog! Bottom line these police killings of unarmed civilians has got to stop!!!
Toxic0788 This thread is not about religion so I'm not going to get into it, but I will say this: in a nut shell - Muslims are bad and Israel can do no wrong, is what I usually hear from Bill Maher.
+Trey Hammond oh, my bad lol
Police Culture Has To Change
Criminal culture has to change first.
I totally agree with Bill Maher.
The cops are outta control but there's a lot of guys out there pushing buttons. I saw a, guy the other day flying a drone over a police station and then out came 2 cops and see the fuckin lip he was giving the cops, all because he was recording them. The captain came out and diffused it and apologised to the guy saying they still hadn't figured out the rules on drones. Then he started giving the captain fucking shit. I was saying to myself, this guy deserves to get his ass beat.
I really enjoy when Maher is on the show. They're both so intelligent. Most people will find this interview as awkward, when it really isn't.
Maher had no idea what to say so he rambled off a few cliche statements and whined about them. From an intellectual standpoint he is totally overrated.
Nothing about this conversation showed either of their "vast" intelligences.
shame you've so few votes...
... this is America we are contrasting to....
intelligence is relative, no?
;-)
Most people find it superficial, meaningless and boring, but it really isn't.
I agree with everything Maher is saying but there are other issues that need to be addressed here, and one of them is the big elephant in the room no one likes to talk about: 2nd amendment!
In a country were weapons circulate so easily no wonder cops are more prone to point a gun at you knowing that you might be easily armed yourself, in every other country in the western hemisphere a cop will need to think long and hard before doing that, since even gangsters are unlikely to go around carrying firearms and shooting someone who wasn't visibly armed will almost certainly lead to a prison sentence and the end of your career at the very least.
I'm not interested in a pro-or-con argument here, just stating a simple fact: whatever your opinion on the matter, that's a shit sandwich you all have to digest one way or the other....
So we just have to take your word for it and that's that? What a shame, cause you made a couple of errors in your judgement there
Edwin Colon C'mon shoot if you must.
Bill has those same opinions too, and speaks those often on his show,
+Professicchio thank you, but first I want to correct myself saying it wasn't errors you made, just something I feel you overlooked. Which was the need for police reform. With so many entering the force it is time that these cops get the training they truly need. Being watched over by veteran cops who have been doing the right thing. We are seeing these young cops who don't even know the rules they need to abide by as cops and they already have the gun drawn before a simple traffic stop. As for the 2nd amendment. It is ok to carry a handgun if you must. I personally believe we shouldn't have guns at all. But to ban all semi and automatic weapons. Because truly there is no need for that.
So France should ban trucks?
What I don't get is the blind reverence we suddenly started showing for cops in this country. We don't show it for lawyers. We don't show it for doctors. We certainly don't show it for entertainers. Why do we show it for police?
My guess is that it's an effect of all that post-9/11 fear that never went away. We were scared, so we invaded the Middle East some more and gave the military and the cops obscene amounts of power and influence. Now we have to call them all heroes 24/7 or we're unpatriotic.
"Or be a stormtrooper"....that was a good one hahaha
when i was in high school in the UK, part of the curriculum (like a lot of schools) is to do ' Work Experience'. After a couple of weeks, in the class room we all discussed what our experiences were like in front of the whole class. A few kids went and did stints at the local police station. All became 'honourary deputies' and had a spot in the force if they chose to seek police work after high school except for one kid. When they asked him why he wanted to be in the police force, he answered 'I want to have power over people.' He didn't say it as a joke either. I feel that in the US the ones we see committing these crimes are exactly like this kid in my class.
I haven't seen two intelligent people talk about this subject matter without screaming. This was such a great conversation between two great comedians.
Bill Maher has rarely been flat out wrong about anything in the last 25 years. It's pretty amazing how consistently spot-on he's been, even when his own audience boos him. What a boss.
Bill Maher for President!!
I feel like they hate each other! I don't know what it is, every time Colbert interviews Maher there's this air of hostility. I love both of their shows (a little more partial to Maher's)
There was a bit of rivalry when The Stephen Colbert Show was still on the air. Politically, Stephen Colbert is more on the liberal side and Bill Maher is more Libertarian.
+TheBambinoitaliano You're crazy...Maher is as liberal as it gets.
+TheBambinoitaliano Maher endorsed Bernie
that's the opposite of libertarian
it's because Colbert believes in a magical sky God.
This was awkward
Maybe a very tiny bit, but nowhere near a cringe. Can you think of a way to make talking about police shootings _less_ awkward? lol Be my guest...
been to trump rally, have you?
Yeah but there are more than twice as many white people in the US than black people, so black people are over-represented in police shootings and thus people are saying that there is a undertone of racism in police practices.
The more you know.
i agree do they not like each other
I bet you couldn't over 50% yourself
Bill is right: it’s quality, not quantity.
Bill Maher is a legend and just undeniable. He is exactly the reality check this country needs. It's a shame his show is on HBO where you can actually be real but gets a quarter the views of The Late Show. He is the jagged little pill we need to swallow, ASAP.
"We've seen police shootings where they fired multiple times, at very close range, and didn't even hit the guy... Spend some time at the range."
"...Or be a Storm trooper..."
I fuckin died XD.
6 more policemen got shot today in Baton Rouge. 3 killed.
Yeah its sad that people are freaking out on police officers for them doing their job and people are justifying criminals actions and so they get more violent because it seems justified to them. 2016 is a fucked up year where people are taking the criminals side.
Thanks for sharing I didn't have my tv on but you better believe CNN is going to keep this on for at least 2 weeks if the shooters are black.
Is Bills rethoric behind the violence on our streets?
I just posted this for edification, for the record. Not taking sides in an argument.
I know I'm watching. This is everyday now it seems.
You cannot shoot unarmed people continually without someone shooting back.
Exactly.
I admire Bill Maher. He is a true realist! Sane, witty and intelligent!
I beg to differ I think he is merely a used car salesman that is completely full of bullshit
If you want to solve police brutality, the answer is super simple. Just make bodycams mandatory for all US police, put one 360 degree view camera per patrol car, and make all the video 100% the property of the American citizens.
Problem solved.
+Keith Richards I 100% agree. Unfortunately, the people in charge love complicated solutions.
What do you think they do now? Where do you think they get all these police shootout videos? Believe me look at them and you will not agree that many of the shootings are rooted in police arrogance.. and I am a person who has had guns pointed at him 4 times, 3 times by police. once in a "riot", and twice in tenuous situations.. justified.. not really.. but...
It still doesn't help. They are never punished
***** Not all injustices are caught on camera and even when they are, a lot of the videos are covered up because the legal system is fucked. Why do you think the courthouse and police station share the same building?
This way if your rights are violated, it's documented no matter what and is your property, no matter what.
On top of that, cops will be less likely to do stupid shit if their every move is being recorded from like 4 different angles and have no way of hiding it.
I really do not think that this is the solution of the problem: How do other countries do it? Look at police kill rates in Germany, UK, Norway, Iceland... They are a FRACTION of the US... And it has nothing to do with body cams.
(Please people do not start replying by talking about population sizes, I am talking about RATES - which factors in population sizes)
"The Police department cannot be revenge for Highschool"
Best quote ever!!!
Bill is right on..and 4 years later he is even more on point!
Props to Bill Maher for standing his
ground in a difficult conversation!💯
Can always sense the tension between them lol A lot of great points hit, Bill as good as always.
Deep and heavy discussion for a throwaway lighthearted show.
Rodney King was a Construction worker who was violently beaten by members of the Los Angeles Police Department for, "fleeing and evading," on California's SR 210 on March 3rd. 1991.
It was George Holliday who filmed the incident from his balcony across the street and sent the footage to KTLA. The footage CLEARLY showed him being beaten repeatedly and relentlessly by multiple officers, and that's what caused the National, (and eventually international,) News agencies to pick up the story.
It obviously wasn't the first incident of Police brutality to ever occur in America, but it was the first time it had been so clearly shown on videotape, which has only increased since because of the advancements in video recording technology, and the spread of cell phone's with video cameras.
Now, American Police have been recorded literally executing suspects, especially when they're African American, and it's almost 30 years later.
But, in a Country where there's more guns than humans, the likelihood of anything getting any better is slim to none.
Anyways lol Bill was right about the year; 91. 👍😊
I love Bills burn, right at the end.
Bill is right most of the time, but this he falls flat on. Completely incorrect.
Incorrect about most cops being honest and hard working and not willing to just pull their guns and open fire? Sounds just about right to me.
bjbell52 Nope, if all cops were shooting black people constantly, then why have there only been 2 videos about it? Where is all the overwhelming evidence of police brutality. Because last time I check Sterling had a gun and the cop who killed Philando was asian, a minority himself. Thats 2 occurrences.
John Doe There have been a lot more videos out there besides two. Just google for them.
Yea, a lot of videos collected throughout years and years.
John, either you do not live in the U.S or you are simply a troll, because *No one* is that stupid.
Give all Cops cameras and make the videos public.
And then go nuts when cameras shut down in right moment when someone gets shot.
You cannot make everything public. That would expose the citizens way too much.
+Merete Mitfuldenavn I mean if there is a shooting.
VY Canis - Oh, ok. That makes more sense. There should definitely be an investigation each and every time someone dies in contact with the police / or gets shot.
+VY Canis the cops in the Baton Rogue shooting had cameras and they accidentally "fell off" so there was no video evidence.
So poignant, especially in 2020 #BLM
And here we are in 2020.
I remember President Obama worked with the Chicago Police department and their training to help stop violence. He was doing very well. He has always cared. HONESTLY CARED.
Your funny!
Comment Baiter
yea that worked really fu**ing well
You remember. You must have a medical Dope card.
Everything he said was completely right, what can anybody possibly hate about this??
Unarmed? Both were armed, and he compared Rodney King to current events. Seriously open your eyes.
David Rook 1.He isn't only speaking for Alton Sterling and Philando Castile 2.There are Rodney King cases that probably do go around, just because we don't record every situation doesn't mean it's not present. I think you're the one who needs to open his eyes
+Denzel Richie not to mention all the white people who are pulled over too and harassed ... there was a case on the Web were a cop pulled a white guy over for not stopping because his breaks didn't work the cop beat him so bad he sent him to the hospital .. I bet when stories like this are video taped which this was white people would be more sympathetic .... police brutality is not exclusive you know
Tyrone Ingram I'm well aware
what happened to rodney is still no different
Maher knows what hes talking about.
It’s funny seeing Bill Maher as a guest when he steals colberts show
I wish Bill and Stephen didn't hate each other so much.
More like "frienemies"
I didn't see any hate here. Steven even said that his previous Maher interview was his favorite.
Did you see that interview? It was the most hostile interview he's ever done.
no, more like "they hate each other a lot"
yeah both are salty as fuck
It isn't a police issue or a gun issue we have, it's a people issue. We are constantly obsessed with labeling people with their race instead of coming together to become the human race.
+Bob Jones thank you for proving my point
.... I doubt that the police forces around America are playing Chris Rock videos when they are training their cops. The police have to be trained differently and not just shoot or beat up as the first option when a person has their hand up or is just laying on the ground like they did with Rodney King, Eric Garner, and Alton Sterling. Yes all the examples I just gave refused to cooperate. But, that does NOT justify the police killing 2 of the examples and almost killing Rodney. They even had to pay Rodney a ton of money because they were wrong in their actions. Now imagine what black people go through on an every day basis that is NOT recorded. Sometimes the people with the power refuse to see the injustice they and their people do because they figure that they can get away with it. So instead the blame is turned around back to black people or black celebrities. People that live in glass houses............
*****
No, black people have stds and no one wants those
I certainly don't want to lecture you. But In Germany every potential policeman has to pass a psychosometric test and after that it'ts a 3 years training period (2 years if you got a high school degree.)
And even here we have problems with police-brutality. Cause everybody can easily LIE in those tests.
"Thin blue line mentality" - Maher right about psychological screening and reasonable monitoring. Investment worth reward.