Ludwig van Beethoven: Septett Es-Dur op. 20

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  • Ludwig van Beethoven: Septett Es-Dur op. 20
    00:07 I. Adagio - Allegro con brio
    10:44 II. Adagio cantabile
    20:00 III. Tempo di Menuetto - Trio
    23:17 IV. Andante con Variazioni
    30:52 V. Scherzo. Allegro molto e vivace - Trio
    34:18 VI. Andante con moto alla Marcia - Presto
    41:56 Abspann
    Gabriel Adorján, Violine
    Valentin Holub, Viola
    Arvo Lang, Violoncello
    Ulrich von Neumann-Cosel, Kontrabass
    Bettina Aust, Klarinette
    Wolfgang Fritzen, Fagott
    Philipp Römer, Horn
    Aufnahme vom 14.3.21 im Rokokosaal der Regierung von Schwaben.
    Tonmeister: Marko Kaminsky
    Kamera: Severin Vogl, Felix Hentschel, Katharina Herkommer
    Regie & Schnitt: Felix Hentschel
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Komentáře • 184

  • @paulheffron4836
    @paulheffron4836 Před 28 dny +18

    You can tell that these players are having a lot of enjoyment in playing together. The synergy is remarkable.

  • @juliocruz3345
    @juliocruz3345 Před 3 dny +1

    Muchas Gracias!💞muy bonita interpretaciòn, Beethoven es Grandioso! ❤ Su Armonìa es Universal!💕🎶🍀

  • @volkerf.sesselmann6783
    @volkerf.sesselmann6783 Před měsícem +17

    Das Ensemble passt in ALLEN seinen Teilen zueinander. Das ist nicht immer so. Glückwunsch. Bravo. Eine sehr schöne Einspielung.

    • @bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      @bayerischekammerphilharmonie  Před měsícem

      Vielen Dank für das Kompliment, über das wir uns sehr freuen!

    • @davidgiles9802
      @davidgiles9802 Před měsícem +3

      Excellent,in fact exceptional,I have only listened to a bit of chamber music specifically for small groups of instruments,and this recording is just breathtaking,well done to everyone taking part in this.❤❤

    • @bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      @bayerischekammerphilharmonie  Před měsícem

      @@davidgiles9802 Thank you so much!

  • @user-dn3em8ug4g
    @user-dn3em8ug4g Před měsícem +9

    An amazing a collaborative group of professional musicians working in tandem to perform a wonderful music as a unified entity and thus rendering honor to Ludwig Van Beethoven. They are blessed in the Lord.

  • @urshandschin5108
    @urshandschin5108 Před rokem +7

    Von Beethovens Kompositionen ist das Septett eine meiner liebsten.

  • @Karlinberlin1
    @Karlinberlin1 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Bettina Aust is a pleasure to hear. Extroverted, courageous playing.

  • @juanjosenamnuntavarez7553
    @juanjosenamnuntavarez7553 Před 5 měsíci +9

    ¡Que belleza! Que interpretación DIOS los bendiga por hacerla pública.
    Muchas gracias
    Que Adagio Cantabile más tierno

  • @studentjohn35
    @studentjohn35 Před měsícem +6

    For several months in the middle of the pandemic, music preformances seemed perpetually presented via cell phone video. So happy to see high-definition video and sound recorded my an engineer. with real mcrophones. Bravo.

    • @bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      @bayerischekammerphilharmonie  Před měsícem +1

      Thank for your kind words, we'd already seen so many low quality videos (technically wise) at that point that we wanted to make a difference. Glad to hear you like it.

  • @karlbauer9734
    @karlbauer9734 Před měsícem +8

    Gute Musik wunderbar aufgeführt, was will man mehr. Bravo.

  • @maximuscholencus5939
    @maximuscholencus5939 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Maestros!! Virtuosos!! Bravo

  • @user-lf1mr5tc3l
    @user-lf1mr5tc3l Před 9 měsíci +14

    Mein Gott. Das it’s wunderbar!

  • @Mezzotenor
    @Mezzotenor Před měsícem +8

    Miss Aust's clarinet playing is sublime, and that of her colleagues is similarly irresistible.

  • @multilatek
    @multilatek Před 6 měsíci +7

    Wspaniała muzyka, cudowni wykonawcy. Grande musique, musiciens merveilleux

  • @dmitriy2853
    @dmitriy2853 Před měsícem +14

    So schön, dass ich die Realität vergessen habe! Herzlichen Dank!

  • @urshandschin5108
    @urshandschin5108 Před rokem +5

    Den Spielern spende ich auf diesem Weg einen herzlichen E-Applaus! Danke vielmal für euer famoses Spiel!

  • @malcolmabram2957
    @malcolmabram2957 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I know this piece so well, I believe it launched Beethoven as a noted composer. The andante cantabile is so peaceful 11:30. Thank you for the performance, and thank you for posting.

    • @bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      @bayerischekammerphilharmonie  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thank you for your kind words!

    • @Quotenwagnerianer
      @Quotenwagnerianer Před 5 měsíci +2

      Beethoven was not happy that it was so succesful. He thought it to light and fluffy and not at all representative of what he really wanted to achieve.

    • @luizamsalgado
      @luizamsalgado Před 2 měsíci

      @@Quotenwagnerianer But it' s such a PERFECt composition! Every note is in the right place,! Lots of imagination by the Great Master! And it's lovely! OC, The SQs , specially the late ones, are not from this world!!! BTW the famous String Trio OP.3 is a Masterpiece and ALSO absolutely lovely! (There are people that say that to compose a String Trio is a chalenge even greater than to compose a SQ, due to the difficulty of balancing a viol and cello vs a single violin. Nevertheless when it comes to supreme music SQs rule !)

    • @luizamsalgado
      @luizamsalgado Před 2 měsíci

      @@Quotenwagnerianer But it' s such a PERFECt composition! Every note is in the right place,! Lots of imagination by the Great Master! And it's lovely! OC, The SQs , specially the late ones, are not from this world!!! BTW the famous String Trio OP.3 is a Masterpiece and ALSO absolutely lovely! (There are people that say that to compose a String Trio is a chalenge even greater than to compose a SQ, due to the difficulty of balancing a viol and cello vs a single violin. Nevertheless when it comes to supreme music SQs rule !)

  • @peterwhyte-zl1kv
    @peterwhyte-zl1kv Před měsícem +7

    What a good -humoured piece of music !

  • @matthiasdemba1748
    @matthiasdemba1748 Před 7 dny +1

    Ganz große Kunst virtuos vorgetragen. Danke für richtig tolle 45 Minuten ❤

  • @pauljacobson2538
    @pauljacobson2538 Před 6 měsíci +10

    This is very nice. I am quite grateful for access to such good performances here in Toronto

  • @aaronjorgefridman5662
    @aaronjorgefridman5662 Před měsícem +4

    Una obra inmortal de un genio inmortal. En una grabació impecable y preciosista

  • @henriquemarioamorim5811
    @henriquemarioamorim5811 Před měsícem +5

    Maravilha esta execução! Parabéns!

  • @salvavillani
    @salvavillani Před 6 měsíci +4

    Ottimi strumentisti e bravi...complimenti!

  • @Mateoalcovershorts12
    @Mateoalcovershorts12 Před měsícem +3

    Beautiful music beautifully played in a beautiful setting. It doesn’t get much better. They are all excellent musicians but that violinist is quite superb.

  • @juancarlosvillegas8063
    @juancarlosvillegas8063 Před měsícem +4

    Qué obra hermosa! Y ellos: Los Siete Fantásticos.

  • @MartinGarcia-tw9rb
    @MartinGarcia-tw9rb Před měsícem +4

    muy buen concierto¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

  • @user-no4bp4jp9k
    @user-no4bp4jp9k Před 4 měsíci +5

    今朝の私を素晴らしく爽やかで晴々しい気持ちにしてくれたとても素晴らしい演奏❗️
    そして永遠に尊敬すべき人、L.V.Beethovenにまたも心から感謝します❤
    7重奏の全ての音楽家にも患者の言葉から見つかりません😂

  • @user-rx7gk5vo4c
    @user-rx7gk5vo4c Před 5 měsíci +10

    bravissimo!!!

  • @Katnip-hn6zi
    @Katnip-hn6zi Před měsícem +9

    Beautifully done. Hard to believe that Beethoven actually considered this his worst piece. (That would be Wellington’s Victory.)
    Wunderbar.

    • @bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      @bayerischekammerphilharmonie  Před měsícem +5

      It was only in the end of his life that Beethoven was annoyed by the success of his piece and talked rather contemptuous about it. At the beginning he was quite proud of it.

    • @PKLARREICH
      @PKLARREICH Před měsícem +3

      Didn't hate it enough -- published a version for piano trio. (Op. 38)

    • @Mateoalcovershorts12
      @Mateoalcovershorts12 Před měsícem +2

      He had every reason to be proud, it’s an amazing piece. I love how German it sounds.

    • @Geoplanetjane
      @Geoplanetjane Před měsícem +1

      Is there anything extant that Beethoven created that one would would ever classify as “his worst”? In my estimation, the whole concept is wrong-headed. What I have determined in my years of experiencing Beethoven, in recordings, in live performances, in televised concerts, in solo recitals, including mine and those of far more accomplished professionals, among other opportunities I have had to experience the mind and heart of this genius, that there is no such thing as a “worst” composition of The master Ludwig van Beethoven. I do not claim a scholar’s knowledge of the entire body of this musical legacy, but the chamber music, the concerti, the piano and violin sonatas, the symphonies, his one opera in its many variations, and no doubt more, are such a delight and in their variety, so beautiful. If I had to claim my current two favorite works, one would be a late piano sonata, known as the “Hammerklavier,” and a late string quartet movement we now call the “Grosse Fuga.” Both are astonishing in their complexity and their chromaticism. In the great fugue, the tonalities explored in the movement presage sounds more commonly heard from 20th century musicians. Both works conclude with triumphal resolution that can only be described as the sound of pure joy and triumph of the human spirit. This septette seems to have much of the same spirit about it. This work at times has an orchestral quality except with individual instruments carrying the lyric line instead of entire sections performing the function. As such, one could perhaps think of this composition as an assemblage of concerti featuring miniature solo performances by each of the seven musicians. It could well be that all of Beethoven’s chamber works can all be thought of in this manner, but it does seem to me that this less than usual assemblage of virtuoso performers on the range of both wind and stringed instruments gives listeners the opportunity to enjoy concerto style solo performances by each musician functioning as soloists and with the ensemble as a whole playing a work that epitomizes true classical era music.

    • @yowzephyr
      @yowzephyr Před 17 dny

      In that case I'm not going to be able to enjoy it now. But thank you. I want to know the truth.

  • @somosmauricio
    @somosmauricio Před 21 dnem +3

    Lindo! Lindo! Parabéns! ❤️

  • @weiweipeng3633
    @weiweipeng3633 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Love Beethoven's music !! ❤

  • @bienestarycomunicacion
    @bienestarycomunicacion Před 6 hodinami

    Gracias de corazón!

  • @serbanalexandru1798
    @serbanalexandru1798 Před 22 dny +2

    Magistrala interpretare!

  • @sherylannejacobs7235
    @sherylannejacobs7235 Před 3 dny +1

    Absolutely divine. 🎼🎼🎼🎻🎻

  • @keithklodzen7270
    @keithklodzen7270 Před 2 lety +7

    By coincidence I just attended a performance of this work at an outdoor concert hosted by the Kenilworth, IL Park District last Sunday. The ensemble was a new group, Symphony 847, based in Lake Forest, IL. It was only their third concert. Being an outdoor event the sound quality left much to be desired. This performance was just wonderful. What a pleasure to listen to again, and to actually hear.

  • @donreed
    @donreed Před měsícem +4

    04/24/24: Absolutely splendid. Thank you!

  • @cristinaaguilarzavala7869
    @cristinaaguilarzavala7869 Před měsícem +2

    Maravillosa interpretación ! Saludos desde Jalisco, México

  • @matteovrizzi
    @matteovrizzi Před rokem +5

    What a wonderful performance. Beethoven's music lives forever. Bravissimi musicisti !

  • @GIROSSINI58
    @GIROSSINI58 Před rokem +3

    Bayerische... Vernunft und Gefühl

  • @stanisawdzumaga548
    @stanisawdzumaga548 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Słuchając ich odnosi się wrażenie, że Niebo otworzyło swe wrota. Przepiękny utwór i jego wykonanie.

  • @alastairboles4437
    @alastairboles4437 Před rokem +6

    Very, very fine playing. ❤

  • @jorgesilva6675
    @jorgesilva6675 Před rokem +6

    Adorável interpretação, uma prazer poder ouvir. Muito obrigado.

  • @antonydean9935
    @antonydean9935 Před měsícem +4

    Thoroughly enjoyable!

  • @luizamsalgado
    @luizamsalgado Před 2 měsíci +2

    Wonderful interpretattion and recording of a lovely and much liked composition by Beethoven! Many Thanks for thos upload! ❤

  • @user-kb3hp2qu8k
    @user-kb3hp2qu8k Před měsícem +3

    thanks.
    美しい!

  • @vishaalbhatnagar3924
    @vishaalbhatnagar3924 Před 28 dny +2

    Wonderful

  • @user-vk2gp3he5c
    @user-vk2gp3he5c Před 14 dny +1

    素晴らしい7重奏❤❤❤❤❤
    配信ありがとう😊

  • @massimolonardi7886
    @massimolonardi7886 Před měsícem +2

    Complimenti! Grazie!

  • @sanderson9515
    @sanderson9515 Před měsícem +4

    Delightful. Hervorragend. Beethoven's magic fills the air. (BTW, the camera work is excellent.)
    Those who interrupt such sublime music with ADS should be taken out and ... spanked!

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse Před 6 dny

    Dieu ne fait plus partie de l'horizon du sens de la vie, de la culture. Il est juste une hypothèse tout à fait superflue. La rencontre avec l'incroyance nous permet d'être plus adulte dans notre foi, de prendre en compte des questions dont les réponses paraissent aller de soi et qui, en réalité ne sont pas évidentes. C'est en cela que l'incroyance est une chance pour le croyant qui balance souvent entre un panthéisme immaculé et un athéisme translucide 🕊

  • @ichrot_
    @ichrot_ Před 20 dny +2

    Habt vielen herzlichen Dank für die wirklich wunderbare Interpretation! Bloß die Werbeunterbrechungen mitten im Stück geben mir einen jeweils recht harten Reality-Check:( Vielleicht könnte man die Werbung so timen, dass sie immerhin zwischen den Sätzen abgespielt wird?

    • @bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      @bayerischekammerphilharmonie  Před 17 dny

      Vielen Dank für das Kompliment. Das mit der Werbung ist neu, anscheinend haben wir irgendeine Click-Marke überschritten und dann werden automatisch Werbungen eingeblendet, da haben wir nichts damit zu tun, das läuft alles über CZcams.

  • @whpalmer4
    @whpalmer4 Před rokem +4

    Bravi tutti! Very lovely playing in the Adagio, in particular.

  • @niallhoskin5185
    @niallhoskin5185 Před rokem +2

    Lovely playing - this is an army of generals!

  • @henriquemarioamorim5811
    @henriquemarioamorim5811 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Parabéns pela interpretação perfeita, respeitando o espírito da obra! Bravissimi!

  • @muv7810
    @muv7810 Před měsícem +4

    Hermoso concierto! Lo hemos disfrutado mucho!

  • @claudiosironi7591
    @claudiosironi7591 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Perfect

  • @cliffjamesmusic
    @cliffjamesmusic Před měsícem +1

    Stunningly beautiful. Thank you

  • @Regina-eo3pm
    @Regina-eo3pm Před měsícem +3

    Спасибо за радость и гармонию!

  • @javieramundarainvitali7525

    Bravissimi! Thank you very much!

  • @majaott5874
    @majaott5874 Před 3 lety +1

    Was für ein wunderbares Geschenk das meine Seele beglückt und erfreut. Herzlichen Dank dafür. Ich bete dass Sie alle bald wieder öffentliche Konzerte in Freiheit halten können, halten Sie durch und bleiben gesund!

  • @silvano2288
    @silvano2288 Před 19 dny +1

    잘듣고갑니다 .고맙습니다

  • @Ramsimenachem
    @Ramsimenachem Před 3 lety +5

    Großartig komponiert und großartig gespielt ! Vielen Dank !

  • @user-wz2gj9tx1h
    @user-wz2gj9tx1h Před rokem +2

    五月の風のような爽やかな演奏!
    皆さん達者ですがクラリネット素晴らしい。

  • @angelatanurdzic7508
    @angelatanurdzic7508 Před 16 dny +1

    Beautiful music ❤

  • @dashunin
    @dashunin Před 23 dny +1

    39:15 Violin cadenza - a phrase from Beethoven's op.61 🙂

  • @user-cj3xv1cs1f
    @user-cj3xv1cs1f Před měsícem +1

    horn❤

  • @hudsoncampos2201
    @hudsoncampos2201 Před rokem +2

    👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @clovissimard3099
    @clovissimard3099 Před měsícem +1

    LA CHANT EST LA CONSCIENCE DU TEMPS ! Beethoven: Missa solemnis ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Wiener Singverein ∙ Andrés Orozco-Estrada

  • @janvriend7948
    @janvriend7948 Před měsícem +2

    Why are the cameras constantly changing focus? There are only 7 players - they are all involved in the music. Keep the camera on the ensemble. All these moving images are distracting from the music.

    • @bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      @bayerischekammerphilharmonie  Před měsícem

      As you may have noticed the production was filmed in early 2021 when no concerts with public were aloud in Germany and the musicians on stage had to keep a distance from each other. Our approach was not to focus on that and to make the best of it, to show the viewer/listener a perspective he would never have had in a concert hall, to follow the melody jumping from one instrument to the other rather than showing to much of the akward distance between the musicians on stage.

    • @ariontheobaldo5794
      @ariontheobaldo5794 Před měsícem +1

      That is the taste of the camera director.

  • @alexandregabrielsousa2214

    If ah septet that I like is without a doubt is that of Beethoven, simply sublime. Google translator. 🇵🇹 hugs

  • @NoName-zn1sb
    @NoName-zn1sb Před měsícem +1

    Thank you Mozart!

  • @jordivallspedrol2275
    @jordivallspedrol2275 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Encara que la part més famosa sigui el minuet, cal dir que tota l'obra és una meravella i és llàstima que majoritàriament només es conegui aquell fragment. Però cal donar gràcies als dibuixos animats i a la tv per haver-lo recuperat.

    • @erika6651
      @erika6651 Před 9 měsíci +1

      The first movement is a touch bland but the rest is a joy. The 2nd movement is lovely and the Variations are a treat!

  • @renzo6490
    @renzo6490 Před 17 dny +2

    And no coughing audience !

    • @bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      @bayerischekammerphilharmonie  Před 17 dny

      We'd rather prefer the audience to playing for nobody but still it was a wonderful experience to do those videos.

    • @renzo6490
      @renzo6490 Před 17 dny +1

      @@bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      You didn’t play for nobody.
      But I know what you mean.

    • @bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      @bayerischekammerphilharmonie  Před 17 dny

      @@renzo6490 You're right, now we know we played for quite a lot of people but in that very time we were missing our audience quite a lot.

  • @petrofeldtman8766
    @petrofeldtman8766 Před 7 dny +1

    Anyone that complains about ads, just become a member. I listen to all sorts the whole day and never have a single disturbance

  • @idilcetintas7723
    @idilcetintas7723 Před 28 dny

    Alone part

  • @theot4077
    @theot4077 Před 8 dny

    Ad @ 4m. - 30s. -- 18m.- 29s.

  • @sanderson9515
    @sanderson9515 Před 13 dny +2

    WAY too many ads. 'Bye.

    • @bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      @bayerischekammerphilharmonie  Před 12 dny

      We completely agree, but unfortunately can't help it.

    • @davejacques4226
      @davejacques4226 Před dnem +1

      Subscribed! Splendid work, and a lovely way to wake up on this Sunday morning. ​​⁠ I won’t leave, but is there anything that can be done about the number of ads? They are obnoxious. Greetings from Clinton, Michigan, USA 🇺🇸!

    • @bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      @bayerischekammerphilharmonie  Před dnem

      @@davejacques4226 sorry, we can't do anything about it, please complain to CZcams! But they will only try to sell their CZcams Music thing.

  • @lastfirst6626
    @lastfirst6626 Před měsícem +2

    Why is it that musicians wear black?

    • @bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      @bayerischekammerphilharmonie  Před měsícem

      We don't really know, but we rather like the idea of dressing in a festive way that doesn't distract from the music and so we agreed on black.

  • @idilcetintas7723
    @idilcetintas7723 Před 28 dny

    İnşallah kusarsın Beril

  • @matthewraymondwillis
    @matthewraymondwillis Před 17 dny +2

    Seven minutes of music and then a few minutes of highly annoying and jarring commercial. This isn't what I'd call, "good listening". Thanks, but no thank!

    • @bayerischekammerphilharmonie
      @bayerischekammerphilharmonie  Před 17 dny +1

      Sorry, but we can't do anything about it, please complain to CZcams.

    • @jillians9847
      @jillians9847 Před 14 dny +2

      I've tried to write this comment three times now and the app keeps shutting down! 😂
      They want you to pay for CZcams music.
      All the CZcams stuff is owned by Google. I stopped paying for CZcams music service because it didn't work properly on my phone. Probably my phone's fault, right? Except my phone is an android model, so the OS is also made by Google. You'd think they'd at least design their apps to operate correctly on their own OS, right?
      We live in a rentier economy. If you want anything nice, you gotta subscribe and pay rents on it. And if that service is crappy, well, you either subscribe to a more expensive service, buy more expensive equipment or BOTH.
      We'll probably see total societal collapse before we see the defeat of the rents system. Not that I'm saying you shouldn't be mad about that, be as mad as you want. But somebody is gonna figure out how to charge rent on that anger too, just watch.

  • @roberthill799
    @roberthill799 Před 8 dny +3

    Boycott US Cellular for placing ads in the middle of a movement. How greedy and boorish can you get!

    • @violatione
      @violatione Před 5 dny

      CZcams decides the placing of the ads.

    • @robindale9352
      @robindale9352 Před 2 dny

      CZcams premium is only $15 a month or so - no ads whatsoever. I'm not connected with them financially, but I swear it's an absolute godsend! But it's worth it for me because I listen to 4 - 10 hrs daily 😊

  • @presidentstaatshoofd473
    @presidentstaatshoofd473 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Soo glad the kept distance, otherwise they would have all been infected and dead by now.

  • @baldrbraa
    @baldrbraa Před měsícem +2

    Music 10/10. Video 0/10.

  • @camilorojas1744
    @camilorojas1744 Před měsícem +4

    I find clarinetist’s dancing around so much quite distracting

    • @richardfrankel6102
      @richardfrankel6102 Před měsícem +9

      @camilorojas 1744 Then close your eyes! Her movements reveal the way in which she 'feels' the phrase she's playing, and how it fits into the ensemble. I find that enlightening, and my experience is always enriched by it. Musicians are not automatons.

    • @Geoplanetjane
      @Geoplanetjane Před měsícem +6

      She is not dancing around. She moves her body to get the best of the music expressed, bringing out a melodic line, a legato, a rising melodic line, and so forth. I find her playing particularly affecting and her movements, it seems to me, are an integral component of the melodic, emotional aspects of the clarinet part of this septette. Amazing work, so expertly played.

    • @HenriBosch-oy3fz
      @HenriBosch-oy3fz Před 26 dny

      Just think about you and your rubber friend in the bathroom, and your will understand...

    • @OSDALO63
      @OSDALO63 Před 20 dny +1

      I find your comment very offensive, get a life listen to music and let others play in the style they prefer…. Criticona 😡

    • @willmercury
      @willmercury Před 19 dny

      ​@@OSDALO63 You are free to be very offended. And the OP is free to express his opinion. I don't agree with it either, but so what? Would you argue with a fellow diner who said he found the soup too spicy? Get over yourself. You could simply have said that you didn't find it distracting at all; but no, you had strike back and scold. Like I am doing to you. How do you like it?

  • @jamesvanderhoorn1117
    @jamesvanderhoorn1117 Před 23 dny

    The great Beethoven bores us again. Chamber music was not his forte.