Is China Erasing the Hui Muslim Identity?

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  • čas přidán 3. 04. 2023
  • I had a lot of fun exploring the mosques in where I live, Guangzhou. I also got to learn about the dynamic between the Hui community and mostly the Han China. In this video I discuss how Chinese people think about China's religion policy. Hope you enjoy!
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  • @SimingLan
    @SimingLan  Před rokem +161

    welcome back friends for another video - didn't forget you!🥳 Making a video to articulate controversial stuff takes time to think through and I don't just want to just speak from a predictably 'Chinese viewpoint'. let me know what you think of the video!
    edit: to all muslim friends who reminded me to not have the Quran reading as background music - apologies! I wasn't aware of this and I just thought it sounds beautiful. I'll be mindful of that in future videos!

    • @Asad-2166
      @Asad-2166 Před rokem +12

      The first mosque didn't have moon and crescent nor did it have a dome, moon and crescent came from ottoman empire, dome was built only because when you do azan the noise can echo and be heard clearly,

    • @Asad-2166
      @Asad-2166 Před rokem +5

      Has the Christians churches changed? Has there building changed to a square block and the cross taken off🤔

    • @MuradKhan-bh6pt
      @MuradKhan-bh6pt Před rokem

      Does it matter if the first mosque had a dome or crescent? Prayer can be performed out in the open , but these domes n crescents did develop n sort of became part of Islamic culture n identity
      Why is the majority Buddhist or confucinist are scared of these domes ,
      It's a start that takes place from domes to dress code then to food , that's how you erase a culture religion n language but it's not gonna help China in general to take hold of Africa Asia n Middle East
      People are already tired n sick of America n European
      They want China n China wants them too but at home China is scare of similar looking Chinese who happens to be Muslims
      What happened to Muslims in Yunnan ?
      Read about it , they were hustling n bustling a beautiful city more patriotic n chinese than one can think of
      They were destroyed to pieces in 24 hours
      Forced to eat pork wear non Islamic clothing n more than 1600 killed 4000 houses destroyed cuz these peaceful Buddhist couldn't see them thrive rapidly.

    • @pisaukaratan
      @pisaukaratan Před rokem +4

      Thank you for sharing the Chinese first-person point of view. Now allow me to share the strictly-Muslim point of view about Islam in China, especially from a highly respected scholar. Maybe this will enrich your understanding on the issue : czcams.com/video/IflvQUDO9LU/video.html

    • @omarsaeed3753
      @omarsaeed3753 Před rokem +3

      You will find Muslims rushing at you advising or somehow you feel they are lecturing you.
      I want to make it easy if it offends you or somehow looks strange for you.
      Actually for Muslims Islam is the best thing happened to them even if they have less money or more money but life after death for Muslims is eternal life. Some strive very hard for it or some may not but by belief all of them want to be forgiven by Allah and ultimately enter into Paradise. They truly want to share this best thing with you so you can live a happy and eternal life after death and for us Muslims if we could become source of hadayah for anyone it will be benifit to us so that is the actual purpose behind so much excitation from Muslim Brothers and Sisters. I truly wish you a very happy life here and after death as well. ALLAH Kareem!

  • @achmad6962
    @achmad6962 Před rokem +211

    in Indonesia we have the Cheng Ho Mosque, which is a mosque with Chinese architecture, the mosque was built to honor a Chinese Muslim admiral named Cheng ho (Zheng He) who spread Islam in Southeast Asia.

    • @SimingLan
      @SimingLan  Před rokem +46

      I did a bit of a search and the mosque looks gorgeous! It makes me want to visit one day :) thanks for sharing😊

    • @thelatai5792
      @thelatai5792 Před rokem +7

      ​@@SimingLan In this case, the Indonesian government should demolish the Chinese designed mosque and build an Indonesian style mosque. Because the Chinese are doing the same.

    • @andanandan6061
      @andanandan6061 Před rokem +27

      ​​@@thelatai5792 Well there is no specific mandatory architecture design when it comes to a mosque so it is pointless for them to do that. Mosque just has to point toward black cube in Mecca and no idol or statue inside it. Thats it.

    • @yuzhang7657
      @yuzhang7657 Před rokem +32

      @@thelatai5792 Yes, they can if they want. Chinese don't care about how other countries' people deal with their buildings. They can bomb it or adapt it into other styles. In the same way, Chinese gov can decide independently what a Chinese mosque should look "Chinese", which is none of your business.

    • @thelatai5792
      @thelatai5792 Před rokem

      @@yuzhang7657 govt. decided independently? 😄 who is ownar of chaina? People or Government? Mosque is the property of muslim, not of your f*u*c*king govt

  • @unifieddynasty
    @unifieddynasty Před rokem +369

    Chinese Muslims don't necessarily look Arabic or dress in the Arabic traditional style, and Chinese mosques don't necessarily look Arabic either. It is a great feature of Islam that it can be embraced by such a diverse group of people.

    • @ashvazdanghe
      @ashvazdanghe Před rokem +13

      Hi Islam in China mostly introduced through silk road which many Iranian Muslim merchants have travelled to China even some of them become residents in China which Islam introduced by them to China.

    • @unifieddynasty
      @unifieddynasty Před rokem +21

      @@ashvazdanghe Iran - China relations go back two thousand years in history and are so friendly and peaceful and profitable that it is almost fantastical. I have great respect for this relationship and I hope it continues for two thousand years more.

    • @tapilot9256
      @tapilot9256 Před rokem +15

      ​@@ashvazdanghe Islam came to China by two major routes: Overland, along the Silk Road, and by sea, through the Arab traders.

    • @kongwee1978
      @kongwee1978 Před rokem +7

      @@cannyeyes382 The region between now as Iran and China. The trade between two region is above two thousand years.

    • @johnsonofthunder1026
      @johnsonofthunder1026 Před rokem

      Unifieddynasty your comment applies to every church/religion/spiritual practices club in the world and everyone of them that are "registered religious organizations" are in bed with terrorists calling themselves bankers and governments . Jesus threw the money lenders (bankers) out of the temple as an example to them those and they who have "turned the house (earth) of my father into a house of merchandise" , soon by the power of the Christ the entire corrupt monetary system of fraud and blackmail will be gone forever and all our needs for living in comfort and good health will be shared freely without fear or favor 🙏

  • @stingray4988
    @stingray4988 Před rokem +183

    It's not just Guangzhou, if you go to Xi'an, Ninxia etc. All those oldest mosques in China share similar elements of Chinese traditional architecture. Very few exceptions are old mosque in Quanzhou which is Persian style brought in by Persian merchants but was preserved as part of World Heritage Site.

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem

      Their qibla face Petra, not Mecca. Why? Islam is a lie,

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem

      The first mosque faces Mecca is in 727. Islam is a fabrication by the Abbaside Califat.

    • @bitchesihate
      @bitchesihate Před rokem +17

      @@twnb7733it’s almost like it’s hard to point to an exact direction when the Mecca is thousands of miles away genius 🤡

    • @LivingLonger
      @LivingLonger Před rokem

      @@bitchesihate *what did quran say about creation of earth?* _..He spread out the earth He made it flat.._
      .
      [Quran 79:30] Sahih International: And after that *He spread the earth.*
      .
      .
      [79.30 Tafsir al-Jalalayn] and after that *He spread out the earth He made it flat* for it had been created before the heaven but without having been spread out;
      .
      .
      .
      *in islam, if earth is rotating sphere then it always have a night somewhere at any moment and the muslim god (allah) will stay forever in lowest heaven.*
      .
      *Only the earth is flat the muslim god (allah) descends every night to the lowest heaven when one-third of the latter part of the night is left..*
      .
      [Sahih Muslim: 758 a] 6 The Book of Prayer - Travellers (24)Chapter: Encouragement to supplicate and recite statements of remembrance at the end of the night, and the response to that
      Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
      Our Lord, the Blessed and the Exalted, *descends every night to the lowest heaven when one-third of the latter part of the night is left,* and says: Who supplicates Me so that I may answer him? Who asks Me so that I may give to him? Who asks Me forgiveness so that I may forgive him?
      Reference : Sahih Muslim 758 a
      In-book reference : Book 6, Hadith 201
      USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 4, Hadith 1656
      (deprecated numbering scheme)

    • @sabinereynaudsf
      @sabinereynaudsf Před rokem +1

      Why can't an imam do an interview without being approved by the government.

  • @sixiaoqi1685
    @sixiaoqi1685 Před 9 měsíci +19

    When I was a Child, I lived in the Hui Autonomous Region(Chan He district, Luoyang City), and my neighbors were Muslims. They would put up Spring couplets like us, but theirs were green. There were many beef shops on the street, and I loved their food. Living there for 13 years, can you imagine the Chinese government's policy towards minorities?the district government is a Muslim building, has a Muslim church and Eid festival, and our district president is a Hui Muslim.😊😊😊

    • @azmanabas8425
      @azmanabas8425 Před měsícem

      A Muslim mosque not a Muslim church 😅. Church is for Christian

  • @fajarsyam4725
    @fajarsyam4725 Před rokem +30

    The problem is that Islam is not just a religion of worship that we often see in the daily lives of Muslims.
    Islam is a methodological system of life both individually, family, community and State.
    Islam must be upheld in a comprehensive manner according to the capabilities of its adherents.
    Being able to mean here is being able to be patient in carrying out God's commands and being able to accept the risks. What is certain is that the risks are multilevel, and each level of risk gets a different reward from Allah.

    • @AbdulTheV1ogger
      @AbdulTheV1ogger Před rokem +1

      Islam works with most countries, in China there is more mosque than even in western countries

    • @CodeMeat
      @CodeMeat Před rokem +1

      Now, try to think about the CHINESE culture, in a way that you thinking of Muslim. It is not only the whole system of life but it is the greatness religion of the Chinese. That here comes a real problem, how to make all kinds of religions coexisting peaceful with a greater religion aka Chinese culture for thousands of years.

    • @reymadridejos6316
      @reymadridejos6316 Před 3 měsíci

      Hi i may say that to be saved good works is not enough. It is not that way since salvation is by grace of God not of our own good works. This is the truth. So one must accept his gift - His son Jesus, then he will work into oneself to do good works, thats the fruit of being saved.

    • @tristanalex3165
      @tristanalex3165 Před 10 dny +1

      This is the problem of Islam, not just individuals and families. Islamic social organizations used to be very powerful. The police would shield Muslims and ordinary Han people would be oppressed. Islamic rules not only bind Muslims, but also the pork smell of Han neighbors wafts to Muslim homes and will be chased by Muslims with knives. Muslim organizations are too overbearing. In China, where China is a country of citizens, citizens act according to the law, rather than being forced to abide by Muslim rules above the law.

    • @tristanalex3165
      @tristanalex3165 Před 10 dny

      In modern countries, religion must exist as a philosophical thought and a custom of life. Once adopted as the creed of the organization, the leader of the organization can do anything in the name of God. Terrorist attackers even feel that they are just .

  • @ihsanhariadi1056
    @ihsanhariadi1056 Před rokem +275

    Thankyou for sharing this. I am a Muslim who lives in Indonesia. I'm just aware about the presence, culture and religion of Hui ethnic in China. About the architecture of a Mosque, I am sure that there is also great diversity across the muslim communities in the world, and it has also changed from time to time. In Indonesia, there are also old mosques (built around 16th century) with JAVA-nese (and not "Middle-East" ) Architecture to "conform" to the main culture at the time where HINDU culture was still dominant. I have seen a number of Mosques in Yunnan (and also in Indonesia) which were built by Chinese Muslim communities with Chinese architecture, and I think they are interesting. I like them.

    • @kepinpin5277
      @kepinpin5277 Před rokem +5

      abad 16 budaya hindu mendominasi dari mana cuk

    • @netgodzilla1
      @netgodzilla1 Před rokem +5

      ​@@kepinpin5277 ada mesjid2 dengan gaya arsitektur jawa

    • @kepinpin5277
      @kepinpin5277 Před rokem +5

      @@netgodzilla1 yaiyalah mesjidnya di tanah jawa. Bukannya yg bikin heran itu kalo ada mesjid dengan gaya non jawa wkwkwk

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem

      Israel is mentioned 32 times in the Quran. No mention of any Palestinian ( a white from the Crete). Islam is a lie.

    • @topazokenni4869
      @topazokenni4869 Před rokem +9

      ​@@kepinpin5277 ya inilah topik di video ini, si mba nya pertama mengira bahwa mesjid harus berkubah, dan pemerintahan China sedang menghapus kebudayaan Islam dengan membongkar mesjid dan diganti jadi arsitektur China...
      Pas mba nya jalan ke masjid tertua di China, ternyata gak pake kubah dan arsitekturnya China banget...
      Akhirnya dia nyadar bahwa Islam itu gak harus kubah...

  • @mountaindew20
    @mountaindew20 Před rokem +51

    as a muslim from malaysia I’m very interested about the stories of Chinese muslims in china. ty for the video🤎

    • @SimingLan
      @SimingLan  Před rokem +6

      You are welcome!🥰

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem

      @@SimingLan Kadijah was a Judéo-Christian. The young poor Arab was converted to the judéo-christianisme. There is no Islam!

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem

      The first Chinese mosque face Petra, not Mecca. Islam is a lie.

    • @user-ck7qp2bn5i
      @user-ck7qp2bn5i Před rokem

      @@twnb7733 khadijah was 40 years old when he married the prophet. Her cousin is said to be monothiest christian who saw muhammad and said he will follow him when he grow older but he died before that.

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem

      @@user-ck7qp2bn5i He was the first to translate the Gospel from the Hebrew to the Arabic. He was a Rabbi-Priest and presided over their marriage. So you tell me -- to which religion of Kadijah the young Arab had converted himself to?

  • @dawei666
    @dawei666 Před rokem +18

    The best China blogger is back! Honesty, integrity and reliable information!

    • @mobdyc8267
      @mobdyc8267 Před rokem

      ''Honesty, decency and reliable information!''hahahaha🤣🤣🤣

    • @dawei666
      @dawei666 Před rokem +2

      @@mobdyc8267 anything u think she has ever said that is untrue ?

  • @abdullahtaj
    @abdullahtaj Před rokem +176

    Excellent video. I think most people don't know that the chinese mosques are being restructured, most people think they are just being demolished, so the video was very insightful

    • @SimingLan
      @SimingLan  Před rokem +7

      i'm glad you enjoyed it!😊

    • @vmoses1979
      @vmoses1979 Před rokem +30

      Restructured? What right does a state have to restructure private property let alone a religion? Odd logic.

    • @a2140416
      @a2140416 Před rokem

      @@vmoses1979 Sure, and US has the right to erase native Americans right?

    • @calvyncraven1141
      @calvyncraven1141 Před rokem +33

      ​@@vmoses1979 what's considered "rights" defer from countries and culture. In some Islamic countries, like Brunei, non muslims don't even have the rights to celebrate other faiths in public

    • @gelaskosongtm6182
      @gelaskosongtm6182 Před rokem +9

      @@calvyncraven1141 Tapi tetap bisa melakukan ibadah sesuai keyakinan mereka di dalam tempat ibadah mereka, dan tidak ada semisal perombakan bangunan tempat ibadah non muslim agar sesuai dengan keinginan pemerintah.

  • @harumiaamirah7767
    @harumiaamirah7767 Před rokem +61

    The first gentleman in the video said it wisely, he wore white hat as his Muslim identity but if he should took off his hat does that mean his not Muslim? He's still a Muslim at heart. It doesn't matter what exterior or accessories you wear as long as you're practicing & believing in Muslim values, you are a Muslim.
    Thank you for your hard work for this video. Hope all of us can learn from each other to understand each other better.

    • @abdullahinoor3972
      @abdullahinoor3972 Před rokem +1

      It does matter what you wear as a muslim. It doesn’t negate your faith, the type of clothing you wear but you could be committing a sin if you wear something that is prohibited.

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem

      “ Muslim” is a newly invented term, you used to be called “Saracen”( Sarah send me away, the hands empty.) and Ismaélites. Israel is mentioned 32 times in the Quran. No mention of any Palestinian ( philistin from the Crete.A white!) Islam is a lie.

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem +2

      @@abdullahinoor3972 Where is the original of your modern Quran?

    • @fsxmantra
      @fsxmantra Před rokem

      ​@@twnb7733they're all man made fairytales... out of delusions 😅

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem

      @@fsxmantra Why don’t you try? For its about your soul. I’ve prayed for many Muslims. They all saw the Christ, had visions….You lose nothing, but will earn everything.

  • @imseein
    @imseein Před rokem +56

    👏China needs more CZcamsrs like you who can see things from different perspective.

    • @ChinaTheLlama
      @ChinaTheLlama Před rokem +2

      An English speaking han person who talks to XinJiang people who speaks fluent mandarin you mean?Hold up a Quran infront of the police,film the muslims practice the Quran,openly discus the religion please.

    • @user-mh6ds1hu9d
      @user-mh6ds1hu9d Před rokem

      As I got comments from negationists, I remind you that the UNO expresses its deeps concerns about the situation of Muslim people in China "OHCHR Assessment of human rights concerns in the
      Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, People’s Republic of China".

    • @jered1675
      @jered1675 Před rokem

      In ancient China, mosques were all Chinese-style. All the domed mosques in China are not ancient buildings. They were all built after the reform and opening up, and most of them were built in the late 1990s and early 21st century. In recent years many Muslim women have begun to wear black robes, with only their eyes showing. The removal of the dome is to trace the original and return to the appearance of traditional Chinese mosques.

    • @jacku8304
      @jacku8304 Před 9 měsíci

      @@user-mh6ds1hu9d The Organization of Islamic Cooperation praised China for its treatment of Muslims and also criticized the non-existing claims of mistreatment of Uighur.
      The world largest inter-government bodies endorsed China fairness and even handedness.
      The Council of Foreign Ministers under OIC help a meeting in Abu Dhabi on March 1-2, and adopted a unanimous decision on proclaiming China's intentions and actions to upgrade its Muslims citizens. So the American instigated lies were proven false by OIC thorough investigations.

  • @golonawailus4312
    @golonawailus4312 Před rokem +69

    there are actually eight other Muslim ethnicities/nations within China besides Hui and Uyghur. It would be great if you could cover eight other groups and how they practice, thanks!

    • @armycarat647
      @armycarat647 Před rokem +2

      Really? Can you name them?

    • @JiaTelindadada
      @JiaTelindadada Před rokem +18

      @@armycarat647 in china,there are 10 ethnic groups that believe in Islam. They are: Hui, Uyghur, Kazakh, Uzbek, Tajik, Tatar, Kyrgyz, Sala, Dongxiang, and Bonan. ( translated from Chinese by machine)

    • @jsb8888
      @jsb8888 Před rokem +8

      @@JiaTelindadada you forgot the Han Muslim. And some Muslims living in coast provinces of Southeast China, descendants of merchants from Ancient Arab or South Asia .

    • @DecCat
      @DecCat Před rokem +2

      @@jsb8888Yes, there are Muslims among my Han friends.

    • @Sara_Islam_2024
      @Sara_Islam_2024 Před rokem

      ​@@jsb8888 Han Muslims =Hui Muslims

  • @bobguard
    @bobguard Před rokem +13

    Like your style of presenting and balanced view. Thanks for your videos and really enjoy it.

    • @SimingLan
      @SimingLan  Před rokem +1

      welcome, Bobby! good to have you back:)

  • @ivy4360
    @ivy4360 Před rokem +22

    My previous comment was incorrect, China has only triple amount of mosques then western countries, which is still a lot.

    • @-_-Girthbrooks-_-
      @-_-Girthbrooks-_- Před rokem

      China also has more Muslims in death camps than western countries

    • @user-dt7qf1me1v
      @user-dt7qf1me1v Před rokem

      But how many Muslims there? What is the reliable source on this? Why is the percentage/s of Muslims showing low than Christians in different sources despite the permanent residence of Muslims before Christians? Is the Chinese government inhumanely controlling their numbers?

    • @lucythemotherofathests1465
      @lucythemotherofathests1465 Před rokem

      Because you have native muslims
      But Europe dont have native muslims except for bosnia and turkey
      So it's expected

    • @ensteffo
      @ensteffo Před 11 měsíci

      @@lucythemotherofathests1465 Western countries have real genocide against Muslim countries killing one million Iraqis and other wars, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Syria etc. etc. and then the west produces propaganda and project their characteristics on to China which is what the accusations against Xinjiang, Tibet and HK is.

    • @vanavana593
      @vanavana593 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@lucythemotherofathests1465😅so hard on other so easy on yourself hah?

  • @davidchao685
    @davidchao685 Před 11 měsíci +24

    Thank you for providing a nuanced perspective into the Hui Muslim identity. Your video reminded of a Hui couple and their restaurant I visited in Kunming. It was a one of my most memorable experiences during that visit.

  • @onisuryaman408
    @onisuryaman408 Před rokem +87

    Hi, I am from Indonesia, a country with most Muslim population in the world. In Indonesia, the early mosques also incorporate the original culture, the Hindu and traditional style. Due to this strategy, the population could easily accept Islam as a new faith because it didn't clashed frontally with their original culture. Only when Islam had become the major religion, the more Middle Eastern style was incorporated. And now, several new mosques even use modern and avant-garde style, leaving the ubiquitous dome shape.
    Regarding the assimilation of religion, the history is a bit different in Indonesia, since Islam finally become the dominant religion. Even with the domination, Islam has evolve into a more "Indonesian" style, with its own unique culture and tradition. Only in the last decade there is a purification movement ignited by the new Islam awakening around the world.

    • @robertmitchell8630
      @robertmitchell8630 Před rokem

      Irony Islamic Pakistan got great relationship with China as most of the Islamic world
      The Muslims only got anger towards Hindus India Jewish Israel
      You must understand
      India to Spain unprovoked invasions conquest forced conversions enslavement religious vandalism etc committed by followers of Islam
      Entire powerful empires
      Persian Zoroastrian empire Iran totally Islamic
      Turkey mere five hundred years ago was Byzantine citadels of Orthodox Christian
      Buddhist Afghanistan Hindu Pakistan Assyrian Christian Iraq Syria Coptic Christian Egypt Orthodox Christian etc
      Tons of Hindu temples destroyed or converted to mosques
      I don't justify violence persecution islamophobia etc
      But at least acknowledge that Islam also done similar to others

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem +1

      ----In 624, the qibla was changed from Jerusalem to the pagan city of Mecca where the chief Moon-God, Al Lah, surrounded by 360 idoles, was worshipped. But Mecca was Only conquered in 630. It means that you have been the Moon God, idole worshipper since 624.

    • @mohammadyaqoob746
      @mohammadyaqoob746 Před rokem +12

      @@twnb7733 This shows you don't know anything. The first thing Prophet ﷺ did after conquering Kaaba was destroy these idols of these false gods

    • @robertmitchell8630
      @robertmitchell8630 Před rokem

      @@mohammadyaqoob746
      That's religious vandalism
      True God?
      God is our own making
      A true God wouldn't demand annual BBQ hundreds of thousands of animals
      True God delivered some very disturbing and unsavoury things in that so call holy book of his
      And those hadiths have portrayed his apostle in a very disturbing character
      Captured kaibar saffyia taken away her father brother executed husband Kinanan being trtred to reveal where the treasure was hidden?
      No insist we fight in his cause etc that's an incompetent God if he "needs" if he can't get things done on his own
      Every religion build a place of worship with labour of their own hands and love of their hearts
      Islam captured a pagan city Mecca , usurp the pagan kabbah committed religious vandalism
      This is nothing but imperialism no pray and supplication meditation of the heart can be acceptable to the God of a purified spirit from such EVIL actions
      Christian Zoroastrian Hindu Buddhist places of worship vandalized or converted to mosques
      This is pure demonic
      True God is just your belief

    • @developerAKX
      @developerAKX Před rokem +1

      ​@@mohammadyaqoob746 ya like savages and barbarians 😂

  • @finnjacobsen684
    @finnjacobsen684 Před rokem +3

    I find your perspective and comments most useful, enhancing understanding, great alternative to ordinary news.

  • @AnkanBasu7
    @AnkanBasu7 Před rokem +7

    Very nuanced and well structured! I also like when your cat gave it’s cameo 😂

  • @diahiskandarbinmohamadjani7674

    Thanks for making this video. I didn't know that the mosques are not demolished, but the gov is replacing them with new ones with Chinese architecture. I am pretty cool with that actually. Cheers. Greetings from Malaysia.

    • @thelatai5792
      @thelatai5792 Před rokem +7

      So when the Chinese come to Africa, the African people should paint the Chinese face black. forcing them to speak Afrikaans.

    • @prgrg4287
      @prgrg4287 Před rokem +14

      @@thelatai5792 lol Chinese hui Muslims don’t look like middle easterners and they aren’t making those people look oriental😂😂 they already look like Chinese.

    • @Verjis0x
      @Verjis0x Před rokem

      @@prgrg4287 yah, it's scary to think what they would do if hui people really looked like middle easters!

    • @fakoneuwyong
      @fakoneuwyong Před rokem +14

      ​@@thelatai5792 She talks about the building, you talk about the human, what is the correlation ?

    • @ddmly1800
      @ddmly1800 Před rokem +20

      @@thelatai5792 Your hatred for china seems to be destroying your common sense! make istighfar if you are muslim.

  • @dennisash7221
    @dennisash7221 Před 11 měsíci +1

    This is one of the most well researched and presented CZcams "ammeter" video's I have seen really well done!
    Awesome that you live in GZ, I live a little way away in ZS that has a super interesting history as well not as old as GZ but full of amazing milestones.
    The only comment I can make is that this was a well presented open and factual video and I look forward to seeing more of them.

  • @silverbeernuts4229
    @silverbeernuts4229 Před rokem +9

    Siming, I just found your channel. I've gone through 3 videos, and I am so impressed and inspired by your sense of fairness, curious, and most importantly, honest assessment. These combinations gently removes doubt in your work for those who are more subscribed to western influences. I wish I was much younger as I would work in parallel to send these messages that you present. Cheers.

  • @jean-lucbuczinski143
    @jean-lucbuczinski143 Před rokem +32

    Your insights and critical analyses are blowing my mind, and it's awesome. It's so easy for an outsider to judge another countries actions and policies from a biased lens.

    • @user-mh6ds1hu9d
      @user-mh6ds1hu9d Před rokem

      As I got comments from negationists, I remind you that the UNO expresses its deeps concerns about the situation of Muslim people in China "OHCHR Assessment of human rights concerns in the
      Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, People’s Republic of China".

    • @CraftyCarder-pe8zx
      @CraftyCarder-pe8zx Před 11 měsíci

      Both Islamic and Christian Chinese are being persecuted especially if they do not bend to the Chinese government. That is why the message of patriotism. The woman doing the show even said that country was most important. But in both Islam and Christianity put God first and not the government.

    • @jacku8304
      @jacku8304 Před 9 měsíci

      Her insights and analyses kept one in suspense. Neither here nor there. Somewhat a borderline comment.

  • @shiningstar6659
    @shiningstar6659 Před rokem +1

    I am a new subscriber and i am really enjoying your videos. Thank you for researching and sharing your views, insights and thoughts. 😊

  • @shiulai5804
    @shiulai5804 Před rokem +3

    I came across your vlog today
    Appreciated the piece about your identity journey since age 15.
    It takes courage and self confidence to bare your soul. Congratulations for finding peace at such a young age. Your identity will evolve with time and life experiences.
    I know you will do well

  • @pokya-anakrantau8845
    @pokya-anakrantau8845 Před rokem +7

    I have been to Nanguan Mosque in Yinchuan, Ningxia in 2013 and 2014., when the original architectural structure was still intact.

  • @hemabudha9428
    @hemabudha9428 Před rokem +24

    Thank you for sharing an "insider's view".
    As someone who have had a great fortune to visit some of the impressive mosques from Malaysia to Oman and as a practising Buddhist with freedom to practise my faith without fear in my home country Nepal, it is deeply concerning that these magnificent domes are being replaced with flattened tops.
    Places of worships are underpinned by philosophies of the concerned religion. They inspire us to reflect and contemplate on scriptures.
    For example, Arabic calligraphy is only used in the domes of mosques not on their walls or floors. The calligraphy symbolizes God's words and highest wisdom. In Buddhism, our temples often have flatten roof to symbolize one taste of samsara (world) and nirvana (liberation).
    I am actually concerned that this kind of approach whilst well-meaning may actually be short sighted and unintentionally eroding Islamic values.

    • @digitaldina
      @digitaldina Před 9 měsíci +1

      it is ! and that's what they would like to do. homogenize the people so they conform better

    • @vanavana593
      @vanavana593 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I think you assume a lot. Islam been in China over more than one thousand year, during this time, islam developed a lot throughout the world, evolving into what you see today, same evolution happened inside of China too but separately from Arab countries, these also created huge differences. Buddhism architecture are different in different countries too, I don’t see this is really ‘eroding ‘ anything

    • @samghising2170
      @samghising2170 Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you , I was going to answer this Nepali self righteous guy, but you explalined to the point@@vanavana593

  • @elfaridovic6721
    @elfaridovic6721 Před 11 měsíci

    One of the best content, I’ve encountered here!

  • @Zenblayed
    @Zenblayed Před rokem

    Thanks Siming, very informative. Look forward to more...

  • @royschmidt675
    @royschmidt675 Před rokem +3

    I like your videos and how you clarify the issues. The control by the government of personal lives is the issue and freedom of thought and life pursuits, I feel, are the cure. Your English is excellent ! Thank you !
    Peace & Love💕🌸🙏

  • @martingray6275
    @martingray6275 Před rokem +9

    Thank you !
    I have started to watch more of your videos! You have done SO MUCH in depth research to help present these situations, perspectives, opinions...

  • @zeegorman1865
    @zeegorman1865 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I'm glad I found you. I really enjoy your content! How come you only have 25K subscribers?! We need more of this type of content on CZcams.

    • @davenobody407
      @davenobody407 Před měsícem

      Because it is not an anti-China channel but tells the truth.

  • @MuhammadAliAhson
    @MuhammadAliAhson Před rokem +2

    You are doin great work. Proper research. May you grow more.

  • @bhl3840
    @bhl3840 Před rokem +4

    Hello Ms Lan Thank you for sharing your experience and taking us though your journey.

  • @chitru1983
    @chitru1983 Před rokem +4

    I watches a few days ago from vlogger Little Chinese Everywhere exploring Shadian muslim city. Apparently the city has the largest Mosque in south western china in arabic style and signature green dome built by Muslims in more recent history. With 40000 mosques around China, do you think policies vary from different counties or provinces to another?

  • @elizabethmorton4904
    @elizabethmorton4904 Před rokem

    Excellent, excellent, excellent video on all counts!! Thank you!

  • @Mohazz88
    @Mohazz88 Před rokem

    I definitely enjoyed this, thank you.

  • @evanhadkins5532
    @evanhadkins5532 Před rokem +14

    There are differences in Western countries. France is more averse to public religious expression than other countries for instance. It sounds like in China the government has a role to play in deciding what is proper Chinese culture. In Australia we are suspicious if our government tries to do this - we tend to think they are setting some citizens as more worthy than others (which some of us don't like).

    • @evanhadkins5532
      @evanhadkins5532 Před 11 měsíci

      @user-kc7mu4jp4p Well it is not subtle. I'd rather be a goody-goody than a baddie (are you saying that is what you are?). I care because people I love and myself are effected by how people behave. To defend the good is not to defend evil or even violent means (big discussion). As I pointed out I do discriminate (hence the 'don't like). Your response isn't even coherent.

    • @evanhadkins5532
      @evanhadkins5532 Před 11 měsíci

      @@remmond3769 very true

    • @akilimali_ndag
      @akilimali_ndag Před 6 měsíci

      Note: Not all country are the same. I respect China about that

  • @koslamas8447
    @koslamas8447 Před rokem +12

    i had visited this place sometime on the 25th China Import and Export Fair. And given a chance to pray in this Mosque, Alhamdulillah.

  • @zahirmasud7242
    @zahirmasud7242 Před rokem

    Thank you Siming for making this video

  • @johntu1967
    @johntu1967 Před rokem

    Wow, what a fantastic video! Thank you.

  • @daayieevideos
    @daayieevideos Před 9 měsíci +25

    Your commentary is very important for Muslims from other geographic locations to understand that Islam melds into the people/culture it joins, not that an "Arabized" culture should represent Islam as a faith or culture alone. I became Muslim in China through Hui Muslims, his family had been Muslim for more than 1350 years, while a language student at Beijing University over 40 years ago. When I spent time as a language student and expat in the Middle East a decade later, I am so glad I was introduced to Islam outside of the Middle East...an understanding of Islam that was more kind, inclusive, and inculcating a softness toward others from Far Eastern philosophies--and not flagellation from an "Islam is superior-ity" complex that is not obvious to many Muslims bound to traditional thinking. Just take a look at the knee-jerk reactions of most Muslims in traditional Muslim states...form over substance. You are helping many people understand Muslim Chinese groups and the variation among them based on when the different schools of thought entered China.

    • @jye7027
      @jye7027 Před 5 měsíci

      Well said

    • @chillfluencer
      @chillfluencer Před 5 měsíci

      Muslims should also be aware that western white people try to meddle between Muslims and the countries there are in as well as with other groups...most prominent example: Muslims vs. Jews. There are people who financially profit from making them fight.

  • @vPenguiin
    @vPenguiin Před rokem +4

    very informative video, thank you

  • @johnsun7103
    @johnsun7103 Před rokem +1

    Good job! Siming!

  • @thingsall1347
    @thingsall1347 Před rokem

    love this vid, thanks

  • @marinawalls7738
    @marinawalls7738 Před rokem +30

    this allowed me to see the other side of the argument more (I have always heard about Xinjiang region in the news and about the treatment of the Uygur, so I never thought there would be tolerance to the Muslim faith in other parts of china as well). It is interesting to see the assimilation of culture and I think you explained it really well. Might visit china soon even 🌺👍

    • @cyberywayne3128
      @cyberywayne3128 Před rokem

      the "treatment" is NOT REAL, simply fabricated stories to feed anti-china propaganda, china is a country that has many religions, many ethnic people.

    • @marvinfok65
      @marvinfok65 Před rokem +10

      There is nothing better than to visit China to see the truth with your own eyes! If you want to, you can go all the way to Xinjiang and see the lives of people there. There is no restriction now that China had dropped the zero-covid policy. There were never any restrictions to go to Xinjiang all these years. The only restrictions were during the zero-covid policy to stop the spread of covid. Not only Xinjiang, you can't travel freely to most other places in China for the fear of spreading the virus.
      Millions of foreign visitors had been to China and at least a million had been to Xinjiang.

    • @jumbo9301
      @jumbo9301 Před rokem +6

      What happened to all the detention camps that were caught on video.

    • @hkwopczk1
      @hkwopczk1 Před rokem +4

      @@jumbo9301 😂why would u believe those camp video?

    • @jumbo9301
      @jumbo9301 Před rokem +5

      Because it’s truth. They order them to cut off their beards, an Islamic injunction, and separate men from their wives. It is not only on video. A Turkish lady spoke about her uncle going missing there after being arrested by authorities

  • @becritical7476
    @becritical7476 Před rokem +10

    看了你发布的很多视频,内容的细节到位且有逻辑,时间线清晰,最重要的是非常丰富且曲折的心路历程,支持你!近现代的中国经历了那么多苦难,再次站在世界舞台中央,很不容易。我觉得所有中华儿女应该自豪,感谢你能站出来向世界介绍中国!

  • @enghongong
    @enghongong Před rokem

    Keep up the good work. Your talks are precise, intelligent, insightful and honest. You will be a great cultural ambassador between China and the world. Respect.

  • @ldijz
    @ldijz Před rokem +12

    There is a need for one religion to be distinguished from another religion, otherwise, what is the point of having different names. Buddhism and Islam have theoretical and practical differences. So, why can’t these differences allowed to be manifested into each architectures? If walking into a traditional Chinese mosque, one cannot determine if it is a mosque or Buddhist temple, then I believe we have integrated to the point of not allowing each to practice their own religion freely.
    Of course, Islam allows some degree into adaptation to local culture, but that doesn’t mean one has to give up its distinction. A true free society would allow distinction within its society, and let its people choose the path that they seems most logical or appealing. In long term, this is what makes a society resilient; allowing external influence as it can be a change for the positive.

    • @calvyncraven1141
      @calvyncraven1141 Před rokem +1

      That's your opinion only but in reality if a country and its citizens its 100% free to do whatever they like, then all you have at the end is division and chaos like in the USA

    • @ldijz
      @ldijz Před rokem +5

      @@calvyncraven1141 diversity is not chaos. Allowing multiple ways of life can enrich people's experience and allow choose of path that is most suitable for that person, instead of force adherence to a single path. It allows higher efficiency. In China, so much integration has taken place that it is erasing minorities way of life and their religion/culture. This in long term will only harm Chinese as a civilization, because habit of great civilization is that it is capable to observe shocks and new idea.

    • @calvyncraven1141
      @calvyncraven1141 Před rokem +1

      @@ldijz there must be a balance in everything. And i think China is doing just fine. You cannot have too extreme of a diversity without some controls in place orelse chaos will follow.

    • @jamila7544
      @jamila7544 Před rokem

      Great explanation! That’s why we are able to tell the difference between synagogues,churches,mosques and other such temples, I think it’s important to preserve motifs that allow us to discern between different religions

    • @stanleyhuynh1659
      @stanleyhuynh1659 Před rokem

      I sympathy for both arguments. However, history of China requires strong central government. They fearful of chaos. Therefore, although governments have good intentions but not good at planning would understandable.

  • @limcheating1
    @limcheating1 Před rokem +12

    ahh regarding the arabic style dome, my grandfather was Hui Muslim and my mum told me the arabic style mosque never existed in China, even in western part of China, until recent decades, for example the first Mosque in Xinjiang looks completely non-arabic, it is completely a central asian architecture, so China is merely remove the later outside influence, and resume to what it should be, btw, your english is excellent, and your reporting looks sincere

    • @CodeMeat
      @CodeMeat Před rokem +3

      大伊斯兰运动,阿拉伯人搞的,还好共产党的反应不慢。

    • @samghising2170
      @samghising2170 Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you for the update. as I suspected this dome shaped architect probably wasn't there, it was a recent importation from the middle east due to oil boom and all the scholarship and sponsorship that was peddled from that part of the wold.
      needless to say other undue influence which is unwanted also arrived.

    • @rajibhossain9918
      @rajibhossain9918 Před 2 měsíci

      Are u practising Islam?

    • @qurbonbekqulmirzayev3895
      @qurbonbekqulmirzayev3895 Před 2 měsíci

      👍👍👍

  • @vincentgoh7717
    @vincentgoh7717 Před rokem +13

    hi, first, kudos for this simple yet fine video explaining how China views and works with culture interaction issues. I'm from Singapore, a generation apart from you but totally appreciative of the information and explanation you put forth in this and many other wonderful videos. In my view, Singapore takes a not dissimilar stance (from China) towards many societal issues, including those towards religious harmony and societal security. Compared to the turmoil we had in the 60s and 70s, I would say that my government did a good job and similar results will likely continue to prevail in China going forward. Thanks again for your good work. BTW In Singapore, we still know Islam as 回教。

  • @DontTickle
    @DontTickle Před 4 měsíci

    This is very insightful and interesting. Great stuff

  • @ysgoh1981
    @ysgoh1981 Před rokem

    Excellent video!

  • @davidrichards1741
    @davidrichards1741 Před rokem +40

    Such an enlightening video. You're very intelligent plus your command of English even exceeds native speakers with a post-secondary education. Full respect!

    • @2seraya
      @2seraya Před rokem

      She is well trained to (deliberately) speak like a native speaker. Few I think would even contemplate much less to reach that goal. Of course it now comes naturally. Watch her earlier video.

  • @abdulkadirhassan5765
    @abdulkadirhassan5765 Před rokem +5

    I thank you for sharing us your point of view off your Chinese Muslim community.

  • @sparks7949
    @sparks7949 Před rokem +1

    Fascinating video. Thanks 😊

  • @syedpacha3515
    @syedpacha3515 Před 4 měsíci

    Fantastic journalism and information good work for a solo video maker. Love the honesty and the point of view.

  • @brunokagh
    @brunokagh Před rokem +8

    You are enlightened and wise beyond your years. Your vids are so impressive in both content and style. I am interested in learning more about the Uyghur issue bc I fear that the view from the US lacks insight and nuance. I have traveled to China for business on several occasions and find the people and culture fascinating. Thank you for making these vids.

  • @akasahamir8884
    @akasahamir8884 Před rokem +26

    You're wright girl, design of the mosque & what you're wear doesn't really matter as long as you know which parts of your body to be cover,Islam is super simple & straight forward, you don't have to follow import culture, just think Islam itself no force, even by forcing yourself are call force,so you don't have to follow others culture thank you so much girl, keep it up keep on research

    • @SimingLan
      @SimingLan  Před rokem +1

      Thank you for sharing Akasah!😊🥰

    • @Ajay-vf6di
      @Ajay-vf6di Před rokem

      Can this be applied for india as well??? Coz we got lot of remodeling to do in india. 😊

    • @elite7329
      @elite7329 Před rokem +2

      It absolutely matters what you wear to a mosque, you HAVE to adhere to an Islamic dress code.

    • @thelatai5792
      @thelatai5792 Před rokem

      In this case, the Indian government should demolish the Chinese designed buddhist temple and build an Indian style temple. Because the Chinese are doing the same.😂

    • @ISMSKL
      @ISMSKL Před rokem +7

      ​@@elite7329 the dress code for Muslims is not only what you wear to a mosque, but what you wear in public. The dress code is basically to cover yourself. There is no rule to wear things that look a certain way such as white hat, black robe etc.

  • @Daydreamer-ub2qz
    @Daydreamer-ub2qz Před 5 měsíci +2

    As Asianmuslim myself, a most eloquent clip ever on Utube. I totally agree with your point of view. You know for sure, main problem in this kind of situations - is west would love to exploit these kind of situation in any where in the world. So for practicality's sake most people would probably agree with your point of view.

  • @shanewilson2484
    @shanewilson2484 Před rokem +2

    The domes of Mosques in the Middle East evolved from the East Roman church dome construction tradition. When Arab Muslims conquered previously Christian regions in the Middle East, churches were sometimes turned into Mosques. An example is the Umayyad Mosque in Damascus. Minarets were a Muslim innovation to facilitate the call to prayer.

  • @dionprass
    @dionprass Před rokem +3

    In Indonesia, the biggest Islamic organization - called Nahdlatul Ulama (NU) - also holds a principle "hubbul wathan minal iman" that literally means "patriotism is a part of the faith".
    Also I found another vlog about Hui Muslim community in Xi'an by Indonesian just as a comparison.
    czcams.com/video/VXaZv9JxhvE/video.html

  • @user-jv4eu7lx5f
    @user-jv4eu7lx5f Před rokem +3

    I had been to the Huaisheng Mosque and 先賢古墓道in Guangzhou many years ago. I am Han Chinese born in Hong Kong.

  • @fredrikbergquist5734
    @fredrikbergquist5734 Před rokem +2

    I live in sweden that is one of the most secular society in the world, maybe close to China in that respect. As a curiosity I live in a very small village in south of sweden and a few years ago a Bhuddist temple with a big golden Bhudda statue was erected! I went there out of curiosity and was told that there would be a holy meeting the next day with food and a cermon and was invited. I visited and met the three monks and was treated very well and the food was delicious. In the western world muslims clash with the values of many countries, in Switzerland there was a vote that stopped use of minarets especially with loudspeakers. In sweden there has been individuals burning copies of the Quoran and that has made sweden a legitimate target of terrorism. Some people here says that religion is the cause of all evil in the world.

  • @stevenv6463
    @stevenv6463 Před rokem +13

    "Patriotism is part of the faith" is actually an alleged statement (known as a hadith) of the Islamic prophet Muhammad (God's blessings be upon him). Some dispute its actually being spoken of by the prophet but it seemed very popular on the walls of mosques all over China that I have seen. I wouldn't have recognized it in Chinese but saw it written in Arabic often, even in calligraphy. (حب الوطن من الإيمان) I also remember many Hui restaurants having photos of Xi Jinping meeting Hui people in west China framed on the wall.

    • @SimingLan
      @SimingLan  Před rokem +2

      that's really interesting! I didn't know about this part of Islam. I initially thought it was perhaps a forged culture but it turned out to be a part of the teaching, too. :)

    • @Hassan_MM.
      @Hassan_MM. Před rokem +1

      @@SimingLan Islamic Faith is predominantly concerned with the worship of only Creator God,Spirituality & Humanity & not with man made Borders,Flags,Symbolism,Architecture or Ultra Nationalism or Caste based Discrimination (as seen in Indian religion of Hinduism).
      Just see Articles of Islamic faith as a Han or Communist Chinese & see where you disagree ❓? & if you agree, you are already a Muslim❗
      Besides,you mentioned 72 virgins somewhere kindly provide refrence of it,I've never found it

    • @jazondelta4976
      @jazondelta4976 Před rokem +1

      ​@@Hassan_MM. nope, islamic faith is not predominantly just about worshiping a deity. A whole lot of it are rules on how to conduct every tiny bit of people's daily life or business, and how to rule other people, or slaves. And how to go to war. And justice system.
      Nope, it's super duper complicated.

    • @IK-wp5eq
      @IK-wp5eq Před rokem +1

      Patriotism the word can be traced back to 1500 AD, whereas Prophet pbuh came in 570 AD. the word Patriotism didn't even exist prior to 1500 AD. Since every mosque must have the patriotism saying instead of the other more important and well known sayings means It is a compulsion to have this statement for all mosques in China. Nothing more, nothing less.

    • @stevenv6463
      @stevenv6463 Před rokem +1

      @@IK-wp5eq in Arabic it literally says "love of the homeland" حب الوطن and the Chinese that was on the wall said 愛國 which literally also means "love of country". Abstract terms are often like this in Chinese and the term also means patriotism. It is definitely very self serving to push this hadith everywhere but to give the Chinese government some credit, it is a hadith that exists (though of debated authenticity) and the translation doesn't need to be manipulated to give them a good and pithy message.

  • @pinnitt
    @pinnitt Před rokem +2

    If the mosque was built hundreds of years ago, why does it need to suddenly make changes now in order to “integrate”? Hasn’t it been integrated for many lifetimes?

  • @gnlincoln
    @gnlincoln Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks! Well prepared content, helps viewers have a better understanding; consider issues from wider perspective while grasping the nexus. Look forward to more of your productions, helpful positively." For the quality of works at her present age, imagine how much more helpful her creations will be years later! Press on. Let's support.

  • @gudetamaminiso513
    @gudetamaminiso513 Před rokem +10

    French here ! I find this video very interesting. In France I don't think we would destroy old mosques as we have deep respect for old architecture + we traditionally also have sacred places (the churches).
    But I thing the chinese government and the french one are taking similar decisions : try to have everyone feel like a national and put their religion second in ordre of priorities. Here, we focus more on how people dress (hijab is a sensitive issue) >

    • @kommsk
      @kommsk Před 11 měsíci

      The french with french govt included are so patriotic when it comes to tolerate pedophilia, lgbt, nudism, and every aspect of culture and philosophy as long as it's not of islam origin or muslim conveying....so stop lying

    • @0megax788
      @0megax788 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Another French here, you put into words what I was thinking after watching this video. We tend to prefer keeping religion in the private sphere and become very wary when it comes close to public institutions and stuff like that. Which is why the hijab becomes a very sensitive issue here and lead people to misunderstanding things about France. I feel it is quite similar to China in this situation.
      There's is definitely a sense here that patriotism takes a more important part than religion.

    • @sparklemotion8377
      @sparklemotion8377 Před 4 měsíci

      You're being very political correct about the French witch-hunt against Muslims.

    • @gudetamaminiso513
      @gudetamaminiso513 Před 4 měsíci

      @@sparklemotion8377 I don't know where you live. There's no witch-hunt against Muslims in France. Islam is a new religion historically in the country and is required to reform itself as catholicism did in the 19th century in order to match democracy, the constitutional principle of freedom of religious criticism and the secular culture it meets.

    • @gudetamaminiso513
      @gudetamaminiso513 Před 4 měsíci

      @@sparklemotion8377 I dont know where you live. There's no witch-hunt against Muslims in France. Islam is a new religion historically in the country and is required to reform itself as catolicism did in the 19th century in order to match democracy, the constitutional freedom of religious criticism and the secular culture it meets.

  • @hodorhodor6925
    @hodorhodor6925 Před 4 měsíci +2

    china has the most powerful cultural diversity with history. If they were able to embrace it, their soft power would be unstoppable. Mongolia section expressing the beauty of Mongols and their history. Tibet expressing the beauty of Bhuddism. Xinjiang expressing the beauty of Islam with a modern spin of kashgar architecture. These are all China and China is probably the only country capable of expressing the beauty of all religion as one.

  • @haraldgundersen7303
    @haraldgundersen7303 Před 2 měsíci

    Very well done. Loved the info and the way it was presented. Respect,,,

  • @jimmy2045
    @jimmy2045 Před 10 měsíci

    Very educational thank you❤

  • @userre85
    @userre85 Před rokem +4

    Criminally underrated channel.

    • @SimingLan
      @SimingLan  Před rokem +1

      haha, you are too kind!🥰 thank you!!

  • @Sam-uo6ps
    @Sam-uo6ps Před 11 měsíci +6

    I am really inspired by the great service you are doing for mankind, You are very good hearted and you are a talented teacher especially for me as an American to help me observe some of my prejudices, and let them go and think more in terms of being in human brotherhood with Chinese people. Thank you.

  • @htainlindwa7603
    @htainlindwa7603 Před rokem

    Thanx again my friend, I enjoyed it

  • @gregorshepherd3561
    @gregorshepherd3561 Před rokem +2

    Your comments about "not fitting into society and needing education" are interesting at 14:20. This is the same 'logic' used in the UK and Australia to tackle radicalisation, which is basically what the Chinese government is doing. Somehow people have interpreted the Chinese method as being 'repressive', while the very same strategy when used by them is 'modern and free'. Thought provoking.

    • @bmiles4131
      @bmiles4131 Před rokem

      It’s also what authoritarian governments say when they reindoctrate people. Can’t really know based on the vague statement.

  • @Si_nengatcha
    @Si_nengatcha Před rokem +10

    Thank you so much for this video. I'm from Indonesia, and there have been some news that basically china govt bans Islam, discriminate muslims, and even forbid muslims from fasting. I honestly think those news' are biased and unbased because such news has happened to Indonesia too. So I'd like to hear some perspectives like yours, who is local.

    • @METZINTechnologies
      @METZINTechnologies Před rokem

      SE Asia countries are mainly colonial by western so even today, our 90% of our news r painted by western via English to display China or any countries not listening their "rules" with all the bad image and malicious info. Glad that SiMing can bring e truth to the world.

    • @fanyang8533
      @fanyang8533 Před 11 měsíci

      假新闻而已,问那些在中国生活的印尼人吧

  • @x7j4
    @x7j4 Před 11 měsíci +5

    I just discovered your channel last week and I have now watched several of your videos.
    Great work on your part, you are obviously working very diligently at producing well-thought-out documentaries that stay away from vague opinions, and instead concentrate on facts. Your videos are very refreshing and informative. Thank you.

  • @JAllen5050
    @JAllen5050 Před rokem

    Thank you for sharing.

  • @glurppuffloid9796
    @glurppuffloid9796 Před rokem +1

    I agree with your take!

  • @jonathanlee9098
    @jonathanlee9098 Před rokem +15

    Actually you nailed it a 3:19 when you said in China, the nation goes first. In China, the state is above religion. This is something a lot of people cannot wrap their heads around.

    • @michaelxu8987
      @michaelxu8987 Před rokem

      Almost 80% of people have no feelings about religion in China.

    • @saahan-nn1fe
      @saahan-nn1fe Před rokem

      Do you think religion is above all else? over the national interest?

    • @jonathanlee9098
      @jonathanlee9098 Před rokem +2

      @@saahan-nn1fe No. Religion should not be above national interest.

    • @wyz9815
      @wyz9815 Před rokem

      Without country and its protection, nothing in that country will stand! No county understand that better than China which had been suffering 100 years of chaos and destruction by forigen power!

  • @stanleyhuynh1659
    @stanleyhuynh1659 Před rokem +6

    Thanks for your efforts in explaining complexity of China culture.

  • @heyYall647
    @heyYall647 Před 11 měsíci

    I recently started watching your channel and love your content so far. I like how you present and detail the subject matter from China's and World's POV.
    I would really like a Siming react video of Johnny Harris's content about China.
    Also, forgive my ignorance, but I would like to see some content around these topics -
    How would the Chinese government see your work as a CZcamsr? Because I see you speaking freely about many topics that I thought would be considered a no-no in China.
    Are these videos available to Chinese? I keep hearing many things like youtube and VPN is illegal or highly discouraged in China - is that true? If so, how do you navigate yourself and your channel - and be careful about what you present?
    Anyhoo, much love for what you do, and keep it going!!

  • @MeLodiCarAma
    @MeLodiCarAma Před rokem

    Excellent video 👍👍👍

  • @EurasiaNaval
    @EurasiaNaval Před rokem +16

    A vital part of a thriving society is that people from all backgrounds should feel they belong to the greater whole. At the other end of the extreme, you would have a divided society where the minority feel like they do not belong, the majority suspicious and fearful of the minority, and both succumbing to misinformation and misunderstanding.
    By the way, I watched it through at 1.75 speed and missed not a single word. Impressive delivery!

    • @SimingLan
      @SimingLan  Před rokem +1

      it's good to hear from you again!😊

    • @userre85
      @userre85 Před rokem +1

      I watched at 2x

    • @mohamedb737
      @mohamedb737 Před rokem +5

      the greater whole for Muslims is Ummah, which is the community of believers world wide. Until we find a middle ground between Ummah and country, Islam will be forever an outlier. But at its core l, it's a uniting force, no matter your color, ethnicity, country of origin and even your previous deeds, Islam will embrace you like your mother's love.. That's why it's appealing, but it's true that it can cause people to detach from their "country" which is after all an artificial construction that doesn't truely exist...

    • @aslampervez2294
      @aslampervez2294 Před rokem

      ​@@mohamedb737 how country is artificial construction. Please explain

    • @MixerRenegade95
      @MixerRenegade95 Před rokem +1

      @@aslampervez2294 It is of Man not God, that is all.

  • @artistpolarbear1467
    @artistpolarbear1467 Před rokem +14

    so im a muslim egyptian ... far far from china yet i study at the Chinese egyptian university sooo China and chinse people of all ethinicities matters to me a lot - especially Muslim ones . Im extremely grateful to see a Han Chinese put out a video with an actual and complete thought process about the matter ! I feel that .. in the tense environment around this matter in china now (it might not be new at all but just more dissucssed lately ) the destruction of the green dome meant a lot to the Muslims . Im not even chinese but I was kinda sad that happened ! Regradless the intentions at that point ( even if they were to be good ) , seeing something so central for your identity getting demolished right in front of your eyes in a mood of general upset from all sides must be horrible . I get it . Islam is a religion - its not an architectural style . But in a way , this unique union of so-called "islamic style " (its just arabic style really ) and chinese culture , I find , to be absolutely mesmerising ... I would love to taste local halal chinese cuisine and get a feel for the internal culture of these people- how they talk and how they pray to Allah (God ) in a non-arabic tongue ! I feel that Muslim chinese culture is super unique and in a way only adds to the richness of china ... that doesn't mean that making the architecture of mosques more chinese renders the Islam of those chinese Muslims lost- but ... it would be a sad thing , no ? Thats my humble opinion and Allah (God) knows best . I would love to see more videos about this topic - keep'em coming !
    (p.s. I loved the editing in the video but I don't think its okay to put a voice-over over the quran in the beginning of the video -thanks for understanding )

    • @SimingLan
      @SimingLan  Před rokem +7

      thank you for sharing, i appreciate your perspective! 😊 i was gutted too about the green dome. i totally understand that the architecture can grow into a part of your identity, so tearing it down has hurt many people's feelings. chinese muslim do have a different sensitivity to islam compared to the muslims i've met back in the uk for sure!
      i didn't know about the voiceover issue, sorry about that :)

    • @jazondelta4976
      @jazondelta4976 Před rokem

      Naaah. Being moslem is not identical to being Arabic.
      So No, it is not a sad thing for the mosque to be remodeled to fit the land it is located in.
      Btw, wasn't it the moslems who destroyed the sphinx's head?

    • @artistpolarbear1467
      @artistpolarbear1467 Před rokem +4

      @@jazondelta4976 Yes i agree . Being a Muslim is not being arab or the other way around . Most Muslims arent arabs actually . I never said that in my comment , actually the opposite . Second , Im an Egyptian and never heard about the destruction of the sphinx "head" . Its his nose that fell off Some say its a cannonball fired by Napelon Bonaparte's army in one of the french military wars in egypt when it was occupied . Always read the history first.

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem

      The first Chinese mosque face Petra, not Mecca. Islam is a lie.

    • @LivingLonger
      @LivingLonger Před rokem

      'To improve the condition of some mosques, as requested by many Muslims, Xinjiang authorities have built new mosques, and moved, renovated and expanded some run-down mosques..'
      .
      *15 Mar 2021 - New China TV - Xinjiang renovates old, dilapidated mosques.* Xinjiang renovates old, dilapidated mosques. Has Xinjiang demolished mosques, as reported by some foreign media outlets? Let's get the facts straight: Local Muslims and construction workers say old, dilapidated mosques have been renovated and expanded to improve facilities.
      (videoid: VvJ-v_RFFog )

  • @yasminea7149
    @yasminea7149 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The Qur'an doesn't talk about getting rewarded for jihad and receiving 72 virgins.

  • @davidleeandrew5756
    @davidleeandrew5756 Před rokem

    Your work is both delightful & important. I wish we could get your videos into every 'Western' home.
    Thank you

  • @faisalz8849
    @faisalz8849 Před rokem +6

    In my opinion if China want to incorporate Chinese architectural design into the local Muslim community it should be done by constructing new mosques with Chinese design instead of Middle eastern flavor. It’s wiser to leave the old historical buildings alone. It’s part of your history and identity too. In our country Malaysia we have 30% ethnic Chinese living and practicing their religion and culture. Can you imagine the feelings of the people affected or the backlash the government will face if they suddenly decide to tear down old temples or churches and make them comply with a more Malay design.

    • @edwardsnowden8821
      @edwardsnowden8821 Před měsícem +1

      the middle Eastern looking ones are much newer than you think. most are less than 50 years old. the historic 800_1000 year old mosques in China looked very Chinese

  • @shahrimanshahnaz7008
    @shahrimanshahnaz7008 Před rokem +3

    Actually the dome was not originally Islamic. It was originally from the Christian churches during the Byzantine and Orthodox era. The muslims then took it as their own thereafter. Look at Haga Sophia church-turned-mosque in Turkey with the huge onion on it. Built in 537ad, that was there before the time of the Prophet Muhamad, born 570ad.
    That explains why the oldest Chinese mosque in Guangzhou, which i already visited back in 2004, together with what was believed to be the resting place of the companion of the Prophet, Saad Bin Abi Waqqas, has taken the local chinese shape. Becoz at that time the early arab muslims who brought the religion to that southernmost province of China thru sea werent influenced by those onion shape churches of the Christians yet. Becoz Islam of the Prophet Muhammad's first generation of companions was still very new to any kind of specific shape or design. Only after a few generations when the Islamic conquests grew larger and wider esp during the 2nd century of the Hijrah calender or 7th century ad did they saw the onion shapes on Christian churches and decided to adopt it on their mosques.
    (I am a Muslim from Malaysia and had studied in Egypt for 10 years... we still have a few old mosques in Malaysia of around 2 centuries old that took on local taste and design with no onion shaped roofs whatsoever. In fact it looked very much like a Chinese or Budhist temple design with sharp ends pointing up, with 3 layers of roofs and the only different with a Budhist temple was it was normally green in color. And this was the trend of most mosques in the whole of South East Asian region up until the onion shape came in during the second half of the 20th century. Pls google old mosque in Malaysia and Indonesia.)
    Then the Islamic influence thru the Silk Road to China took place a few centuries later. The Arab and Persian Muslims then intermarried with local Chinese and the Hui people came to exist, who was originally a mixed of arabs persians and chinese but mostly Muslim in religion. Some of these arab persian muslims even served in the Mongol courts of Kublai Khan as ministers.
    These muslims who came by land then introduced the onion shaped mosques in the central of China or along the Silk Road. This was already past 4 or 5 centuries after the first mosque in Guangzhou which had not yet brought any influence of the originally Christian onion shape. Becoz by then the onion was already prevalent in the Islamic world from Spain to India around 2nd century ad.
    Btw, why i said that IT WAS BELIEVED to be the resting place of Saad bin Abi Waqqas was becoz there were 2 more claims of his resting place in the the middle east. And that that one in China actually belongs to his uncle.
    To me personally as a Muslim, travelled far and beyond, i have no real affection for a specific shape of a mosque. The most important thing to me is that i love it when lots of people are inside praying or learning in it. Many old mosques in my country are already demolished to make way for modern style mosques with air-conditioned and all, something very much needed in a tropical country. Some maintain the good old roof shape and some just change it, by themselves, without any government intervention.
    I love to see more videos from you, the Han Chinese girl.❤

  • @juanway
    @juanway Před rokem +2

    Fascinating and insightful video, to us outsiders, china is often misrepresented and content like helps a lot

  • @asumarnachanel8853
    @asumarnachanel8853 Před 7 měsíci

    wow that was very informative...keep going my sista...seriusly i'm worrie about you for this fact...

  • @ItsLizzy82
    @ItsLizzy82 Před rokem +31

    I felt China had the right intention of weeding out extremism, but they executed it incorrectly just as you said. Without the direction of the Imams in those communities which would have helped the government greatly, they sort of created issues that didn't need to happen. I know that In Xinjiang a lot of those who came back from Syria were extremists and have those separatist values, which plays nicely into the USA's narrative. Which could have been the reason why the govt acted so quickly on the matter without proper education and planning themselves. After all, no one wants to live in a disestablished country. I felt more comfortable being a Muslim in China than in the USA. Muslim Chinese have always been a part of Chinese history, Arabic writing was on the Chinese yuan, I know it's mainly cashless now in China so I don't know if you can find an yuan but check it out. One of the first people to embrace and accept Islam was China. In fact China has some laws that are similar to Islamic law.
    I also want to mention that the line about Jihad is incorrect, maybe you misunderstood. Jihad does not mean a holy war, it means to fight for oneself. So for example, to battle oneself in the pursuit for truth, or knowledge, for justice, or to become more strong in faith, or to strong in charity etc etc. Holy war is what extremists turned the word Jihad into made popular by their US funded leaders. Also 72 virgins are NOT mentioned in the Quran, it's only in a Hadith- which are 'stories' that were written by others 100's of years later. We take these books with a grain of salt. I personally do not really follow any Hadithes as the Quran is clear, no other text is to be followed.
    I really enjoyed this video! I have to say I do feel like the Chinese govt doesn't like chaos, they still have that ying yang balance and to avoid chaos they make some mistakes like this. I do hope that the friendships with different Middle East countries and more conversation will help the govt to rectify the issues they have created from their poorly executed plans to stamp out extremism.

    • @mobdyc8267
      @mobdyc8267 Před rokem

      for them, extremists are all who know and take religion seriously and not those who call themselves Muslims but know nothing about their religion

    • @yyz1460
      @yyz1460 Před rokem

      中国政府的政策是否恰当取决于极端宗教分子做了什么,在2015年前,如果你生活在中国,你一定会每隔一段时间听到来自新疆的恐怖袭击,政府用强有力的手段控制了这些极端分子的恐怖袭击,住在新疆的的人,没有人会想和每天带着汽油,炸药,和砍刀的极端宗教分子交朋友。

    • @yyz1460
      @yyz1460 Před rokem

      我只能用中文向你解释这些,我只能看懂一部分英语,抱歉

    • @CodeMeat
      @CodeMeat Před rokem

      go read the “leaked” report from the NYT, which is actually a local government meeting minutes or some sorts, it will give you the background of the reeducation camp implementation. Then you will find it’s probably the most humanity way to remove the root of extremism and actually help the Muslim society to more coexist with the modern human society. And you do not go other way around.

    • @LivingLonger
      @LivingLonger Před rokem +1

      *what is jihad?* _in islam, jihad mean struggles._ *which Jihad is best?* _"..whose blood is shed and his horse is wounded." - Sunan Ibn Majah 4.24.2794.._
      .
      [Sunan Ibn Majah] It was narrated that 'Amr bin 'Abasah said:
      "I came to the Prophet (ﷺ) and said: 'O Messenger of Allah, which Jihad is best?' He said: *'(That of a man) whose blood is shed and his horse is wounded.'"*
      Grade : Sahih (Darussalam)
      English reference : Vol. 4, Book 24, Hadith 2794
      Arabic reference : Book 24, Hadith 2900
      .
      .
      [Quran 9:111] Sahih International: Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. *They fight in the cause of Allah, so they kill and are killed.* [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah ? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.
      *Note:* _only satan will try to make a deal with mankind. god will never need to 'purchased' his own creation._

  • @Naz123Gul
    @Naz123Gul Před rokem +15

    I randomly came across your video today and I enjoyed it. It was very informative and refreshing to hear from a Chinese what exactly the situation is in China. I would like to point out that in Islam their is no template for a mosque in terms of design, for example the big round dome is not Islamic. It’s part of Turkish culture, once Turks embraced Islam they built their mosque with a dome and many other Islamic nations adopted it. Great video btw, look forward to future videos. Viewer from 🇬🇧

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem

      ----In 624, the qibla was changed from Jerusalem to the pagan city of Mecca where the chief Moon-God, Al Lah, surrounded by 360 idoles, was worshipped. But Mecca was Only conquered in 630. It means that you have been the Moon God, idole worshipper since 624.

    • @Naz123Gul
      @Naz123Gul Před rokem

      @@twnb7733 cool story bro

  • @monacattan3014
    @monacattan3014 Před rokem +1

    What one gathered from Chinese history, is that the Muslims helped the Chinese people during one of those ancient dynasties.
    In return, they were rewarded by being allowed to live in China and own land.
    I personally find the Chinese policy of the government reveals genuine care to integrate the Muslims within Chinese society, an effort that many minorities in other countries do not find within multi ethnic and multi religious communities within a state that is governed by a majority.

  • @tianyuan7046
    @tianyuan7046 Před rokem +1

    Hi, Anyway possible i can get a pdf copy of the book HOW TO INTERPRET THE MUSLIM CULTURE THROUGH THE CHINESE FESTIVAL? at minute 4:39

  • @benjerome4405
    @benjerome4405 Před rokem +7

    Thanks for sharing you cultural perspective about the complexitites in your home land. Things are usually not as black and white. I believe fear, prejudice and racism are based on ignorance.

    • @c.kainoabugado7935
      @c.kainoabugado7935 Před rokem

      You forgot that LIES that can bring those also

    • @jacku8304
      @jacku8304 Před 9 měsíci

      Most importantly the Chinese government built the mosque for the Chinese Muslims. For without there will be no mosque.

  • @ThaThree
    @ThaThree Před rokem +27

    Great video! It seems that the people of Hui are afforded certain liberties to practice their religion, even though there may not be as much outward "identity." I'm glad that at least one mosque was allowed to keep its dome. While it's not necessary for a mosque to have "Arabic" features, it's important for it to be distinct enough to have its own identity so that passersby can learn more if they're interested. Overall, this is positive for existing Hui Muslims, but it may be a missed opportunity for those who could be introduced to a positive side of Islam if they knew there were mosques in their area.

    • @jazondelta4976
      @jazondelta4976 Před rokem +2

      It should be treated the same way as every other religion in the land. No more, no less.

    • @ThaThree
      @ThaThree Před rokem +2

      @@jazondelta4976 I 100% agree. Only thing I mean is, you know see a church when you see it for example. As long as there's even a little bit of identifier that's all good. And that goes for all religions

    • @everythingandmore5537
      @everythingandmore5537 Před rokem +1

      ​@@ThaThree leave old buildings like churches, mosques etc alone. Just build new churches or mosques with the new style.

    • @worldlyviewer
      @worldlyviewer Před rokem

      any building can be a Masjid, but destroying antique architecture of a Mosque is pretty repressive and destructive of cultural abundance. i noticed there is hardly anyone inside praying etc and all are totally scared to say anything wrong. if they really want to stop terrorists, maybe don't destroy peoples mosques and get teachers in to the Mosques who actually know their religion enough to educate their communities about the evil of extremism and terrorism. if you don't allow the religion to be openly taught to the kids, why are you surprised if evil people come in and take advantage of their religious ignorance. even the verses of the Quran about jihad have a specific context in the Islamic history. 1 of the1st rules a Muslim has to follow is obeying the ruler as long as he doesn't order you to go against God and his messenger. so the more you stop kids from learning their religion the more ripe they will be for plucking by terrorists. by repressing the religion you are giving the terrorist preachers ammo.

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem

      @@ThaThree The first mosques face Petra, not Mecca. Islam is a lie by the Abbasid Califat.

  • @aminmohamed5031
    @aminmohamed5031 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for sharing this. There are lots of Chinese Muslim students studying in Thailand as well, esp at Islamic univs in southern Thailand.

  • @wartimekillers
    @wartimekillers Před 10 měsíci

    I click some random video, and stuck watch your video until the end, very clear explanation, thx

  • @prhasn
    @prhasn Před rokem +14

    The Quran is suitable for every era. If you cannot understand it and adapt your life to it that is a you problem not a Quran problem. I like how you gave your opinion in a clear manner. Thanks for showing the true colour of what is this all about conformity, which is never good for humans as we are not machines.

    • @twnb7733
      @twnb7733 Před rokem

      Israël is mentioned 32 times in the Quran. No mention of any Palestinian ( philistin from the Crete. A white!) Islam is a lie.

    • @bishalmandal4572
      @bishalmandal4572 Před rokem

      like marrying 6 year old, slavery, marrying son's wife, killing every one doesn't believe in Allah, sperms come from ribs, and jihad. sorry I'm happy to be atheist

    • @LivingLonger
      @LivingLonger Před rokem

      _as long as the religious books teaches hatred and violence, it will not stop. it's like a time bomb awaiting someone to activate it._