Question: What College Degree Did You Get to Become an IT Professional?
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- čas přidán 11. 12. 2014
- I was just wondering if you went to college and if you did what you majored in. I'm having trouble deciding between Computer Science and Computer Engineering and I was just looking for some insight.
-Connor D.
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Thank you, this has been very informative and I think I know what I will be going for. Even in 2019 you are helping people with a near 5 year old video.
This is a GREAT response to the question!
I completed my engineering degree (only because when I was almost done I realized I DEFINITELY did not enjoy engineering. Later I completed my IT degree and this is what I wanted to do from the beginning, but back then, engineering was something that could help repairing systems. Not like today where you replace the board rather than the I.C. or resistor.
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thanks for the brief summary. broadened my horizons
I'm starting a degree in computing and information systems because I prefer to dive into the practical route of using and implementing existing computing essentials to solve configuration issues, tackle conflicts and provide safe solutions for company networks. Computer science is really more theoretical and great if you want to be a software developer or hardcore coder. That's just not for me really, but horses for courses.
You nailed explaining IT & IS well. Helped me a lot
One of my Computer Science professors said it perfectly the difference between CS and CIS is; CS writes the tools and CIS uses the tools that CS people writes.
I really apreciate it Eli.
As a computer engineer, I would recommend computer science if you want to do development or something like that. If you want to do engineering (e.g. industrial control systems), they tend to prefer chemical, electrical, and mechancial engineers (instead of computer engineers). Electronics would be the way to go for hardware development.
So in short if you don't like dealing with hardware and love programming , go to computer science , got it .
just remember blood139violet computer programming is not for everyone. It is a very hard area, but if you truly love it then be my guest go get it sir
computer science also involves hardware in some ways!
I like da hardware
Blood1397violet how your logic is good
Thank you.
My friend Felipe an ex IBM employee who is a little over 60 is a pro in Computer repair, mainly laptops. He's doing pretty good. Mobile devices repair is doing great in my area with no Certs., just experience!
computer engineering is mostly design of ICs, VLSI, and systems-level engineering of computer systems. microphones, touch screens etc are more the domain of electrical/mech/materials engineering (mostly). that being said, lots of computer engineers go into more of a programming / software engineering or consulting career.
+jakejakeboom What about networking? should I go into computer/electrical engineering if I wanted to do network stuff?
An eng degree might make you more employable from an HR perspective for certain networking jobs, but it's really not necessary or relevant. The computer engineering program at my university is geared mostly towards embedded electronics and IC architecture (high-level integrated circuit design), with less emphasis on communications networks. I think some schools have concentrations in networking though, I'd suggest looking into that.
How did you graduate and get bachelor's in 2.5 years? How many classes/credit hours were you taking per semester? Also, what college did you go to?
I love to know things for instance i want to know how coding can monitor other electronics nearby, more like hack but for good reason e.g. Security Organisations such as Police department. Currently studying year 12 but would like know whether to choose Computer Science or IT Cyber Security for bachelor?
regardless of ur CZcams revenue, how much do u make in ur information technology gob?
I done my undergraduate degree in business but my university has created a conversion masters in software development for non IT graduates, because there is so many jobs here for developers.
Okay you mentioned that your 38 and by now I guess your 40. As a person wanting to get into field of CS, is it too late at 26 to go to college? or is it better to just self study and do your portfolio?
I've come here to understand the difference between IT and CS better and this has helped.
I am still unsure what IT does. Could somebody tell me what a network engineer- practically- does? Or is security architect a computer scientist or an experienced IT employee?
So I understand you have people who are like electricians who drag cables and hook up computers in offices- and repair them.
Are there any jobs where you stand as a bridge between the end-users and software developers? You listen to the client, visualize the product and consult your developers what specifications they need?
Also, are there jobs where you are a developer, but do more practical implementation rather than pure engineering? By which I mean, that you automate tasks- with code or without- which could be better done by a computer system?
I am a creative person, social, not very good at all with high-level abstract mathematics and more interested in the bridge between the functional (business) and pure (technical) side.
I also have an entrepreneurial streak, but I'd like to gain experience in this field first- you do not know, what you do not know, kind of a thing.
Is there any particular degree or certification that corresponds to such a line of work?
Great video. But I would like to say you can utilize multiple fields in the real world, and make money doing so. I have been in IT for over 20 years, and this has been my primary career. However, software development is a big hobby of mine and I learned to build products that others use either for their own personal use or in their businesses. The point is, you don't have to lock yourself into a single field or career path. It takes a lot of time and dedication, but it can and should be done.
cool videos eli!
So where'd you go to school and what did you study there? Genuinely curious.
Nate Reiners he never said it right? He only said his mayor is unrelated to computers.
Boss i passed 10 class school education. I want to complete my study intermediate. Like associate diploma.so
Hey Eli,
I'm only a Freshman in High School and I'm very interested in becoming an IT guy...or something. I really enjoy cleaning viruses off of infected computers, but I'm not sure about programming or anything yet. However, I am taking Java Programming next year. What kind of path should I take?
Tommy Maroney It's time to pick classes for next year and I wanna take programming, but I'm sort of concerned over whether my mind is ready to learn all sorts of code.
Hey man im a junior in hughschool and dont know what college to go to or what to major in and i need advice!!
+Gumer Zambrano correct your spelling before going into IT.
I'm graduating this year with a BS in computer science from Purdue and I think I'm going to go into mobile development. It's not what I want to do in life, but I'm trying to incorporate it into the things I want to do. I think that's a smart way to go about it. However, I fear the 40 hour work week described in this video, so my goal is to do freelancing. And since computer people make practically double what the average worker makes, I'm thinking it might be possible to work part time and still make a comfortable living without devoting my life to it. I feel there are so many options with computers. But I'm afraid my optimism is an illusion and there are hardly any places that offer part time opportunities.
If you ever get into programming you can forget about the 40 hour work week. That 70k salary doesn't pay for the amount of hours and B.S. you're going to have to deal with.
Brian Pacheco Can that really be true for all companies?
Sage Mantis Very few companies require their programmers to only put in 40 hours. This is because when you have software deadlines, bug fixes, etc. and you have big accounts that require your software to run their business they're going to require all hands on deck. It's not a job where you can really stop. You have to keep learning, working, etc. The only place I can think of around me that supports the 40 hour work week for programmers is a medical software company that already has it's fair share of big name accounts so they don't need to put out fires when something goes wrong.
Brian Pacheco But if you put in more than 40 hours, then you get overtime.
Sage Mantis Sure, but most programmers don't get paid hourly. The ones who do are usually freelancers or consultants. The companies know that they could easily be paying programmers well over $80/hour if they paid them overtime so they want to keep them salary.
I missed my calling I was in my 20s in the 1990s very much into computers as in some programming (since 1984), building my own Desktop PCs, installing the OS meaning Windows (then Linux after 1995 ..Cheap Bytes!) but from a small town and a shy geek I never made it click.
+David Hughes I see people of varying age at my college working on a computer science major like me, so its not to late for you.
i"m doing web and multimedia development....what are my job prospect ????
Sharvan Gopaul computer science.
Do you need to know a lot of computer science/math stuff in order to major in animation, graphic design, or video game design?
Marshanah T. Some Math/Science may be needed you will need to know some things like physics and how objects interact with the world.
Math and computer science might not be needed but having experience in math and getting a degree would help. The one above might know computer science majors who don't know much but as a computer engineering major i can say that math can be very useful when it comes to programming and running an "efficient" program.
Since he mentioned video game design then math would help with making a more efficient program in terms of which data structure or algorithm he might need to use. Sure he isn't coming up with his own algorithm or anything but having a strong background in math would help, and this is just going off the topic video game design. Depending on the game he wants to create using a more efficient or appropriate algorithm would therefore make a more efficient program which was my point, but then again I have no idea what type of game he plans to design.
I never said Math is needed to be a programmer I only believe that having a stronger background in Math would help anyone become a better programmer. In the end the only way to become a better programmer is to keep practicing programming. I believe a Math degree is useless when it comes to computer science or programming but seriously I don't know many programmers who know anything less than Calculus.
I wasn't trying to argue and did not say you were wrong, I was only stating my opinion that a background in math would be beneficial. I still believe knowing math would be beneficial with programming and making a better performing program. You are right once he comes across the hurdle of having to learn math he could learn it quickly, either way depending on the major he chooses the degree plan will have all the math he needs for his degree. Either way it was a nice discussion and I did not mean to argue or offend your opinion.
I am in high school and love programming(specially mobile development) ...Can i know which degree is good for me ?
yes
+Intelligence Overloaded this comment was so awful i reported it for spam.
atleast 50% of the entire video you've commented below is talking about exactly that
You are a bit off on that I guess, Computer Science is the science behind "computers", programming etc. It is mostly about Artificial Intelligence, Algorithms, Automata and Formal Languages, Logics etc. Computer Programming / Software Development / Software Engineering is the field which writes practical code, be it kernels, web or any other kind of application.
im so glad i watched this video
Is an entry level job for IT people doing hardware stuff or can they do networking if they have a degree in MIS or IS?
Marshanah T. For Entry level IT you will need at least your Net + certification. If you are not computer savy I would recommend getting A+ as well or at least studying it. I work for a IT firm that I got an internship at and they trained me up. Those were the entry requirements.
Justin Hawkins Gratz on the job! Quick question, is a Bachelor's a requirement to work in IT? or are certifications (A+, Net+, Security and etc...) enough to get a entry level IT job? Thanks!
Honestly, in this industry it is more of a certification industry. I have been in the industry for aprx 1.5 years to 2 years and everyone I work with most of them just have Certs.
A+ is just hardware like ram, cpu, etc. If you are unfamiliar with this I would recommend getting this first. If you are moderately familiar then just get your Net + that should get you started and can get you in the door at an IT company.
I only have the Net + certification at the moment.
Justin Hawkins Interesting, good to know. Thanks for the info and best of luck!
hey man! i've done my ccna, ccnp, intermediate level IT technician course (for computer repairing & troubleshooting) & currently doing mcsa BUT have never don't bachelor degree... Do u think i might get good salary job with these certificates??? I'm scared i might not get a good IT job because I've not even done my bachelor's degree...
My aunt is from the same generation as you. Should I ask her for a job or get a degree in software engineering?
Hello! I'm 23, is it too late to become a top programmer in your professional opinion?
It's never too late. Search up Tree House ;)
+Austin Payne Its not too late he has actually answered that question in another video
Man you are too young ;D
It is never too late to learn even in one's 50s.
I got my BS degree @ 38 & my MS @ 42 and maybe PhD @ 47 ;D
anyway 20~30 is the golden age to learn whatever.
Yep. I want to work with Hardware and stuff like that!!!! But yeah. Software is too hard and programming lol
After 4 years do you still thinking same?
There's a new degree in town called Software Engineering... it's like CS but programming to the max. It's offered by over 20 universities here in the UK but I'm not sure about the US
I'm in a BS Software Engineering program. No, it's not "like CS but programming to the max". A school wouldn't give programming classes to a software engineering major that a computer science major wouldn't take. The difference in software engineering and a computer scientist is that a Software Engineer applies engineering principles along with their understanding of CS. It's less analytical and more tailored to making product/managing the software development cycle - hence the name engineering. Neither of them code better than the other.
Jonas Bezzubovas Wow. 0 -> Mad extremely quick. I didn't even mean to offend, but I'll play your game.
"I do a proper engineering degree" - Proper? What are you implying here? You sound egotistical, and I'm sure you are.
"don't tell me about engineering principles" - I didn't tell you about engineering principles. I was simply telling you that Software Engineers use engineering methodologies with CS knowledge to differentiate between the two professions (CS and SE).
"I was simplifying the difference when it comes to exams and assessed work" - It's like CS but programming to the max? That's how you simplified it? This isn't even true.
"People on my course code better than CS people" - That's the wrong preposition. It's "people IN my course."
Oh. So, because of this one instance it must mean that Software Engineering majors code better than CS majors. Yup.
"Have a nice day pussyhole." - You got me. I'm hurt.
I suggest improving your reading and writing skills, emotions, and ego. You don't seem like an engineer - more like a joke.
Computer Scientists are completely different from Software Engineers FYI.
Just in theory. At the end, everybody ends up doing the same everyday: software development 9 to 5. Cause that's what pays.
I'm thirty five and looking for a career change into the IT field with no background in the field. Am I dreaming?
no, you're not, it's doable
+Andrei Vasilachi thanks buddy, I'll try my best!
Im 45, been a machinist most my life. I got laid off in May and tomorrow August 15, I start at Cameron University for a degree in Cyber Security.
i'm happy for you
Computer Science is still new in the traditional education. They are teaching you things from 1995 year. Mmmm. Still new, still new.
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