recommending a FX30 for video beginners is like recommending a 400HP+ car to a beginner before he crashes it within the first ride. I think its more about being a "hybride" camera than a cine only in the future. Video is basically just a fast burst rate of photos and considering sensors got better the last years and i guess they will improve even faster the next years in readout speed, there will be soon the time when you dont have to differ that much anymore between photo or video centric, at least when it comes to sensor and image processor capabilities. The FX30, as nice it is: 1) price... 2200€+ is ridicilous for APS-C! 2) as you said in the cons.... no photo features 3) probably the biggest issue, missing viewfinder - at least a small viewfinder would have been nice, but since its anyways only for video i guess they just forgot abut the EVF to make the camera even smaller (and save production costs/increase profit) As much i really want to say the FX30/FX3 is not that bad, especially considering video, their heavily limited photo features, price, annoying UI/menu design, Sonys color science, no EVF,... just doesnt come together in my opinion. And i can say that as someone who nearly changed from the RP to a Sony A7SIII since i really wanted full frame and slow mo video both together (until i realized i can not afford it) The actual camera im using is a EOS R7 (had the RP a long time and R6 for short before), i hated a lot on the R7 already because of 1500€ body only but at vacation i saw a too good deal in a photo store i could not deny. But even the about 1100€ i paid, i really had a hard time to decide if around 1000€ is worth a APS-C camera with a reused DSLR sensor of 2019. I mean i am SUPER HAPPY with the R7, at least a affordable hybride camera, unlike the in video limited and annoying to use R6 or the for video useless EOS RP. But im not sure if its worth around 1100€/$, let alone the MSRP of 1500$. And the FX30 is even more limited, only in rolling shutter and super slowmo better and cost nearly 1000$ more than the R7. I dont know, maybe i am just from yesterday, but i think we are getting ripped off heavily on the actual, capitalist style market, not just camera stuff related.
And then along came the S5ii. It's a good time to be alive. Would be nice if Sony's next firmware gave us some S5ii features. Little things like Shutter Angle or some assist tools.
I've never understood why Sony doesn't include shutter angle. Maybe because Panasonic makes 'video-first, photography-second' cameras and Sony is more hybrid? IDK 🤔
Lol this camera has already been beaten this year...the S5ii. It's only going to be a touch more expensive than this and far better in almost every aspect.
100% brother!!! I love mine. This camera would cost $5000+ just a few short years ago. With lens selection for E-mount, the FX30 will still out sell nearly all current cameras including the new s5 II.
that camera is great i have it myself, and you forgot to mention, that the Sony Fx30 can do Prores RAW, 4K 60 so you can get Raw Video out of that camera as well.. Also it's autofocus is amazing, i have tried to make this camera Lose autofocus on my face and eyes and it is hard to do, it just holds focus so well. So if your shooting stuff like Skate boarders, BMX bike sports or even people running around, this camera will keep up with it all, it's Amazing. Also you don't have to Shot Cine EI or use the base ISO when shooting Slog 3 i have shot Slog 3 footage as low as 200 ISO just traded off 2 stops dynamic range and when in 200 ISO you don't have to over expose to get rid of nose because there is no noise at 200 ISO at all even in low light. you really don't lose anything shooting in 200 ISO, because first off the camera has total of 14 stops, and from all the expert test your only going to get like 12.8 Clean Stops meaning Stops with no noise, no matter what ISO you use, your only going to get 12.8 Clean stops, when you go down the 200 ISO you don't get 14 Stops total only 12.5 stops, but your only going to get like 12.8 clean stops any way even if using 800 ISO so really your not using anything, it does say 14 Stops total but that is not clean your never going to get 13 or 14 clean stops Gerald Undone tested this and he did a video testing the dynamic range using Lower ISO's then 800 like 400, and 200 so you should check out that video.. And when i film i'm in a controlled environment where i can control the lighting so many times i shoot at 200 or even 160 ISO and get super Clean video with no noise at all even in the shadows.. Oh by the way here is the Video from Gerald Undone about shooting below base ISO when shooting SLOG3 czcams.com/video/rLG_zlshlSA/video.html
The Panasonic S5ii will be go to for this year. The new AF works with adapted lens which now makes the lens selection a lot better. IBIS is second to none, colors are amazing, straight out the camera. I could go on but wont. Would like to see you review it
Panasonic will be go to if you need open gate or are on a very tight budget. There are still better cameras in the 3500+ range that still out do it in many ways. If you are making money then expensing the cameras as a tax write off makes them a lot more attainable. Imo, if you are looking at an S5 you likely could afford an a7siii, canon r5, c70, or A1. Especially when you account that with adapted (canon) and third party (sony) lenses the overall package is cheaper.
@@KBmediaOnline I shoot wedding films on an a7siii. Imo AF is better, 4k120 is great for those right shots, and I shoot on a gimbal instead of ibis. But I’m glad you found something that works for you!
Gimbals are good for certain things, but realistically, they slow me down which is why I only use them sparingly for shots I cant achieve otherwise. I had an A7IV before so I realize how useful and efficient my workflow will be with PDAF. The IBIS is super important to me because I can maneuver my camera quicker than I can with a gimbal. But again, ill still use the gimbal for certain things.
The Panasonic S5II will be a fantastic competitor to Sony's cameras (I am an A1 owner and have owned previous Alpha cameras), but it will be difficult for them to overcome the overwhelming collection of lenses available for the E/FE system; also there is still slight 'background warble' that has shown in some tester's videos... either way the S5II should push more acceptance of 6K by the largest camera manufacturers and not just '6K downsampled to 4K' like on most newer Sonys, for example... Definitely want to rent an FX30 and try it's video as a 'B' camera to my A1`!
The Panasonic S5ii has full-featured continuous AF with EF lenses using the MC-21 adapter, opening up a huge selection of affordable glass for the L mount. And it seems to work surprisingly well: czcams.com/video/e0qJ61zu8-U/video.html
I shoot both Fujifilm and Canon. For video, I still cant believe how powerful the C70 is - especially with the recent updates. Internal NDs, CLog2, internal raw, face and eye tracking, monitoring tools all built in, insane battery life and so on. The only cons I have is I wish they had an SDI port and a digital leveler.
Great video. Another huge pro is the reassuring feeling you can record longer interviews or podcasts without worrying about overheating unlike the A7IV
The Panasonic S5mkII is definitely the camera to beat in 2023. I was looking at the Sony FX30, but after seeing the announcement of the S5mkII the FX30 has dropped a few points.
Do you already have a Panasonic S5? The S5II, It might prevent Panasonic users from looking at Sony, but on the other hand GH6 users might feel backstabbed.
Whats that good on the Panny S5 II? Probably a very good allrounder if you can afford it (well fitting lenses are rare and expensive on this system!), but nothing i would really want for video in general. Its a very photo centric camera, but its 4K video crop make out of it just a glorified APS-C video camera but at least an awesome full frame photography camera. I mean, uncropped/downsampled 4k60 and probably cropped 4k120 should have been the LEAST to expect considering how much the manufacturers are now bragging about readout speeds on newer sensors. Dont get me wrong... its definately one of the better picks in the actual situation of the market and development, but its damn pricy for some annoying limitations in video.
@@nyambeI feel a little backstabbed. LOL I bought the S5 Less Than 3 months ago. I'm going to post a video about that on Monday though. But I do feel a certain kind of way about Panasonic unloading all those S5s over the last few months without really saying anything. Although, all the S5's that rolled out did come with a lot of extra accessories, and lenses, but still, the fact that this new camera cost the same is a little shady. :-) mainly because now I know that the camera that I just bought brand new is worth a lot less money because of this new camera. And that kind of sucks. :-)
@Big Cook Yeah its somewhat ok for the price, but im not with you when you say "great glass on a budget level" The great glass is from Leica, should i say anything more or do you want some examples like the 300 2.8?
@@harrison00xXx all native lumix lens arent expensive compared to sony's fullframe line up. there is a lot of good sigma art lens to complete, and also cine lens. And don't forget FD lenses on panasonic >>>> sony anyday with his IBIS. I was reticent also for not having 4K120 (would have been a killer) but you gain so much for the price. S5 IIX (prores internally + ssd record) improved ibis (wich is the best in the market) as a S5 user even with native lense it was shitty AF (i mean reliable if there is no obstacle or too much lights changes , but compared to my older canon 6D mk 2 (it was bad) now the only biggest weakness has been corrected . TO be honet s5 is priced 1.6k GH6 2K so to have s5 at same price tag is really good.
I’m glad you said that the FX30 is just as good as the FX3. The biggest difference as I see it is the sensor size, but I can’t think of many instances in my career when a full frame camera would’ve benefited me and I don’t think I’d pay almost twice as much money to have it. It’s actually a newer phenomenon to have such a glut of full frame cameras on the market. For much of my career APSC was the most common. Of course, I’d be remiss if I didn’t acknowledge that the camera that revolutionized our industry and put all of us on this course, the Canon 5D Mkii, was a full frame sensor camera, but many that followed were APSC or smaller. Looking at you Panasonic. It is absolutely insane that the FX30 offers so much for so little. That being said, I really want an FX6, but only for the form factor and all that comes with a bigger body. I’d be totally fine with it having a crop sensor. In fact, Sony, how about giving us an FX60?
The fact that the 4K 120 crops in on already a 1.6x crop is kinda oof imo. Typically speaking, Sonys full frame offerings also offer greater dynamic range and noise performance. And the fact that typically speaking, full frame Sony lenses are nicer than their apsc lineup. And the fact that accounting for drop factor, the nicest Sony lenses wouldn’t look the same on apsc and 4k120 cropped in. For some people that’s a big deal. For most it probably isn’t, but just because the market used to be ok with apsc sensors, s35, s16, etc. doesn’t mean larger sensor sizes arent desired. I mean if larger sensors weren’t necessary or weren’t wanted, Vistavision sensors, full frame, medium format, and imax cameras wouldn’t exist. I mean even back in the film days there were larger film stocks than what we would consider apsc.
Open gate is huge. Influencers seem to not have caught up on how important it is yet. Not only for vertical video without moving the camera, but I think the big thing is being able to use different aspect ratios. For example to shoot same ratio like Stanley Kubrick.
Open gate is nice, but it isn’t necessarily needed when you can crop in post and use things like full frame anamorphic lenses. Even though the sensor readout in the 8k mode is 16:9 you can still crop to other aspect ratios and maintain extremely high quality video since 8k is 4x 4K. For example, on the A1 I could shoot 8k with a Sirui lens which will squeeze the image effectively increasing your cameras FOV and then crop down to an aspect ratio of 1:66:1. The Sony cameras have guideline features making it easy to maintain your framing knowing you’re going to crop. And if you shoot in 8k you won’t necessarily lose quality if your final delivery is in 4K or 2.7k like most modern films. And yes the A1 is a much more exciting endive camera obviously, but the point is, with greater resolution sensors, open gate is less of an advantage since you’re essentially
I agree. I'm pleased and blown away by the FX30. Which is why I bought it. As a filmmaker, I want a camera that is cinema focused. Not hybrid based. I sold my A7iv for the FX30. Which may sounds counter intuitive to some, but, it is a huge plus for me. I have yet to record raw video externally, but it is something I will do eventually. That being said, I am also looking at the new Panasonic S5iix, because I've always loved the skin tones from Panasonic cameras. Having owned and shot a feature film with the GH5, I have a great working knowledge with working on V-Log. I will probably keep my FX30. But, I can't deny the attraction of the new Panasonic S5iix.
The RAW probably won't be as good as native 4k. RAW 4k is a 1:1 readout i.e. m43 crop onto the sensor. Unless WB changes are needed in post, the internal codecs should be more detailed and less noisy.
Sweet video 📹 One other thing that comes to mind is the cheaper crop sensor zooms and primes in tandem with electronic zooming with the W/T dial. The FX30 with sigma 16mm f1.4 would be all you need.
Panasonic came swinging! It's a win/win for ALL in my eyes as now Sony and Canon will be expected to swing back or they WILL lose customers. Well done panasonic 👏🏼
It’s a good camera. But it’s not this industry disruptor the CZcamsrs are making it out to be. Small Production teams who can’t afford arri or red will still use canon and Sony cinema line. Freelances will still largely use canon and Sony mirrorless. Why? Because camera body features aren’t the biggest thing. It’s the lens selection and that’s where Sony and canon dominate. Canon has all their old lenses which actually work better adapted on the R5 and co better than they did on the old dslrs. Sony has a better range of native glass AND more third party support than Panasonic. And the features of the S5 that it has over canon and Sony, aren’t really as game changing as you’d think. Shutter angle is nice but Sony and canons cinema line already use this. Open gate is nice but if you shoot 8k on canon or Sony, you can already crop just as much on a 16:9 sensor in post as a 6k 3:2 aspect ratio on Panasonic. Ibis is nice, best in industry, but on a paid job you’re still gonna busy out a gimbal or steady cam. Genuinely speaking, and I’m not trying to be rude since it is your opinion, but the Panasonic doesn’t bring anything new to the table that isn’t already in existing cinema cameras or can’t be worked around with on other mirrorless cameras.
i agree with what you said about not being locked with one brand. i for one love doing photography with a canon camera, but when it comes to video i only had to picks a Black Magic or the Sony FX30. i went with the FX30 and its so painful that i have to wait till estimated July.. i wanted my camera as soon as possible so that i can start learning with it more. wish My Local camera store can get my FX30 from SONY ASAP so i can pick it up already, there isnt enought FX30 content on youtube to watch HAHA and the waiting game while having all the accessories for my FX30
Nice video! Just picked one up a couple weeks ago. It's my first camera aside from having the DJI pocket 2. I was able to take it out a few days ago (only day weather was permitting where I live) and fell in love with it!!!!🥰
I picked this camera up at the beginning of November just after it’s launch. I came from using a GH4 for 7 years before, and what an incredible difference it’s been, and at almost an identical launch price to the GH4 when it first came out. The FX30 is absolutely the best video camera under $2,000 right now
Beaten by what? 4k60 is still in crop. I mean you are paying For FF body and glass and yet, you get a crop. I rather buy a APSC camera and much cheaper lenses.
@Big Cook I use 60 fps most of the day when shooting wedding, like probably majority of people who are filming weddings. And 120 only for a specific shots, so it is not the same.
S5ii has no 4K 120 fps and unreliable AF at HD 120 fps (go check the review at camera conspiracy) which is already a big lose. Plus while Panasonic has just gotten here, Sony has already moved on the AI assisted autofocus
The S5ii just shut everything h down except for Black Magic. BRAW and that film look from Black Magic is hard to beat. I use a G9 with my Pocket 4k because the G9 is sharper but the Pocket 4k gets me better results faster in post. 12 bit BRAW is on another level as well as highlight recovery.
I was all set to get an FX 30 and the S5ii came out. I’m not invested in any camera system. My R5 and RF glass got jacked recently. Now it will be a tax write off.
I love that this video came out ONE DAY AFTER the Lumix S5II, which kicks this one's ass. We are going to see A LOT OF NEWS between here and May. I'm expecting a lot from Canon and Sony. A lot.
Hey Chris, totally awesome video, you production value is outstanding! I use to shoot M43 with Panasonic GH5 which is still a beast something like the Black Magic, you know. I still own it but do not use it since jumping to full frame with Sony. FX30 is cool I hear what you are say at the same time Panasonic well you know they dropped the S5ii and I heard S5iix or S5xii coming later this year. ...still got love for Panasonic. Would be cool if you are able to get your hands on S5ii compare that FX30. Very nice work man! Keep them cioming.
IF YOU are coming from Sony a6600 series, or using S35 format, or even already FX-3 then the FX30 DEFINITELY works for you. If you are using FF set-up and are used to FX, then it's not enjoyable using the FX30 as there are plenty of things for you to worry during filming. So I am selling off my FX-30. Dynamic range is bad. Highlight roll off is bad. Lack of viewfinder makes it extremely hard to focus under bright lights conditions. It's just me.Enjoy your FX30 guys and girls.
Great video! Learning a lot ultimately from some of your videos. May I ask, what’s your best camera recommendation for making tattoo videos and photography content. Slow motion shots and close up would be some of the essentials to consider. Appreciate your knowledge! Keep it going.
Great camera Wish it was in my price range I’m Currently using a d3500 for photos and been messing around with video for my kids sports (baseball,softball, tennis, volleyball) what would you recommend as a step up? I don’t have Upgraded lenses still using the kit . Really want something with decent autofocus . Would a faster lens for my current camera help?
Parker Walbeck has great recommendations on his channel for entry level video cameras! Focus speed is a combination of the Lens as well as the focus system. Getting new lenses can drastically improve your quality of life when it comes to filming, so I would find one you like and rent it.
Lumix S5II vs FX30? Really? Filming is not only about one camera, is about a system. A system that extends to friends, second shooters, clients, type of work, accessories , lens ecosystem. etc. Chris has 2 FX3 and a bunch of lenses. Some have a the A7iv, A1, FX6, A7R5, FX9. Others, have ZV 10, a6x00, a7III. The FX30 makes a great compliment to all these people.
Sure, justify it to yourself. For the same price the S5 ii has way better features (Colors, Codecs, Ibis, Ergonomics, Shutter Angle, Waveform, Vectorscopes, Luminance Spot Metering, Now even Usable Autofocus, Full Frame, Open Gate, Anamorphic Support + Stabilisation, more and more cine glass being released for L-Mount, Sigma Lenses and awesome good quality unified prime lenses, a long future of amazing firmware updates to come courtesy of Panasonic) ❤
@@benja1378 Sure, but I am happy now! In fact, I was already happy with the A7s mark 1 which had none of that. Still love that camera. It will never be about specs, If you have a story to tell. Today biggest challenge is to find stories to tell that is why people test this cameras shooting their pets, their kids or themselves in their garde or a park nearby.
First, you talk about gears, and now, when challenged, you switch gears and move your goal post to talk about the storyline? In other words, you talk about what's on the camera first, then switch gears to the person behind the camera? I'm addressing your argument and not necessarily taking sides on the Sony vs Panasonic. I'm a Sony A74 shooter, by the way.
I bought a BMPCC6KP in Juli of 2022 and a few months later, the FX30 was released which would have been so much better for my workflow. Not that I can complain about my BM but damn :^)
Great video as always! :) What's your thoughts on the Sony a7iv? It seems like it is more like the fx3 in the sense that it uses a fullframe sensor (outside of 4k60). On the other side though, the bmpcc6k isn't full frame and it is an amazing camera as well. 😅
Great content! thanks. I have a quick question. I am a photographer and typically hire someone to do video while I photograph events. I purchased the FX3 and my videographer is having difficulty acquiring focus on some scenes. Where can we direct ourselves to learn more on focus settings (specifically for events) I purchased this camera thinking that it would be great for autofocus but it is just not happening.
Panasonic S5 II HOLD MY BEER >>> FX30 as an old panasonic users. Can tell you that i was jealous of sony af , specially on gimbal . Panasonic af was just atrocious , even on S5 with lumix lens. BUt as pana users you are used to it in exchange you got the best IBIS on camera (on m4/3 ) and fullframe. Now S5 II with a good af >>> specially at 2K price range and even under 3K price range, (nothing to beat). You wanna use FD lenses ??? can't be a better choice than a panasonic specially with his IBIS. I have a canon and when i put my 135 f3.5 and fd 50 1.4 its night and day compared to my gh5 or s5. now S5 II will hit the market as much as gh5 did in the past.(ibis , af, codecs , prores internally with s5 II X + SSD record) still con factors for crop in 60 fps
Hi, Great Videos but if you like BRAW so much the best option will be in 2023 S5ii or S5iiX which is a FF Blackmagic like from Panasonic with Phasedettect AF By the way I have 2 Org S5 and BRAW Vlog from them has more Dynamic range better low light vs BMPCC6K or 4K I own as well. Sure you need Blackmagic video assist 12k for it. Why spend it on an APSC camera like FX 30 with no DCI 24fps or 48 fps. And 10 bit 422 alli unlimited is since 2017 in Panasonic GH5 onboard so Sony was kind of late for that 😂😂😂 For me better money for the bang is S5ii...AF is probably not an issue anymore...just one plus of fx30 is 120 fps 4K on fx30 but it is cropped and even smaller than GH6 MFT sensor. And nowdays with Topaz AI I think S5 120fps footage could hold it even upscale vs FX30 120 fps. Btw I am not payed by Pana and still big fan of your channels specially the video during covid pandemie.
That's a TOUGH question, I haven't used the Sii yet but I know the A7S has an unbeatable autofocus and low light performance is much better! But it also a bit more expensive so that's expected.
great vid bro. How would you compare the low light performance of the FX30 compared to the FX3. I was thinking that was the big difference. From what I heard dynamic range is negligible. PS. I bought two FX30 units instead of one FX3...plus I might even pick up a third.
Dynamic range is quite a huge jump iirc. At least 1 stop or more. The FX30 sits at around 11+ stops (13 with some noise reduction), but the A7S3/FX3 is 12.5. The only S35 sensor to match to FF is the X-H2S with more DR (14.3 stops after NR) than the R5C (roughly 13stops with NR), or the C70.
@@professionalpotato4764 would you say that most of the testing people have done is wrong...from what I have seen ie Gerald Undone...the dynamic range difference is not that large 1 stop...
@@professionalpotato4764 czcams.com/video/TcchabAvvtw/video.html. I cannot see any difference on my 10 Bit 4k Benq...and there are a lot of these out there...
@Sean Cloutier That was shot in a cloudy day. The scenes he showed barely requires like 10 stops of dr to display. He didn't even test HDR scenarios. Go find one where it's unlit indoors with windows. The FX3 will pull ahead for sure.
I am a sports videographer, what’s your recommendation for a solid camera? My work supplies me with an fx3. I would love to own my own yet it’s too expensive. What’s your thoughts? Fx30, a74?
I have an fx30 and an a7iii, and I love them both. I ended up choosing the fx30 over the a7iv as an upgrade to be my new main cam earlier this year and I’m so satisfied with it, I thought the aps-c crop would be more of an issue but it hasn’t really been an issue at all for me, and the fx30 has even been amazing for photography. This camera surprised me with how much better it was, I knew it would be an upgrade but this thing is seriously great. I’m sure the a7iv is also amazing, and obviously would be even better for photography, but if you’re mainly doing video I’d highly recommend the fx30
FX30 for sure. The A7iv you would be over-paying for photo features you don't use. Also the crop in 4k60 also means you need 2 sets of lenses for slow motion (especially wide angle). Doesn't make sense to buy APS-C and FF lenses for 1 camera. At least there's barely any crop in the FX30 4k60p. And you get longer reach for lower prices too.
Grain hasn’t been an issue for me, I’m still learning how to expose SLOG2 but so far it’s been pretty solid even in low light, granted I’m using some pretty fast lenses most of the time. With the 24mm f1.4 GM at 4k60 and 2500iso it seems to do very well in lowlight, with minimal grain. I haven’t made a ton of videos using it yet but so far I love it and it’s been blowing my a7iii out of the water
@@jasonleung6433 yeah I usually start with that, it’s hard sometimes because the metering isn’t always 100% accurate, a lot of what I’ve been filming is on snow and ice, so there’s just a ton of white in the frame so you have to be mindful of stuff like that and what you’re trying to expose, but yeah getting what I want to be filmed exposed around that +1.7 mark makes the footage look great. Also been so happy with how far I can push this footage in terms of color and exposure saving in post.
@@LindustriesOutdoors Thanks. This is what I'm confused about too: with white snow the metering might be flashing +2.0 but it still won't be exposed 'bright' enough to sufficiently reduce noise in post. Also S-Log is just much darker than PP0/11 so even though it already meters +1.7 the image is only just about exposed correctly (and not overexposed by +1.7)...
@@jasonleung6433 yes, often with all that white snow and ice in the frame the metering will be flashing like it’s way overexposed, just have to combine it with all the other tools to set your exposure, and also just use trial and error and make it work. I’m not perfect at it, but the footage has a lot of room to work in terms of saving it in post too. Love this camera and all that I’m learning using it
Another good title: I bought a fx30 and I’m trying to justify the purchase by telling people about my purchase… lol the s5mk2 is leaps and bounds better than this piece of crap lol
What's your favorite camera going into 2023? Also, I see that The Lumix S5 Mark ii just dropped, VERY excited to see what else drops this year!
The Sony a7 iv so far.
For me
recommending a FX30 for video beginners is like recommending a 400HP+ car to a beginner before he crashes it within the first ride.
I think its more about being a "hybride" camera than a cine only in the future. Video is basically just a fast burst rate of photos and considering sensors got better the last years and i guess they will improve even faster the next years in readout speed, there will be soon the time when you dont have to differ that much anymore between photo or video centric, at least when it comes to sensor and image processor capabilities.
The FX30, as nice it is:
1) price... 2200€+ is ridicilous for APS-C!
2) as you said in the cons.... no photo features
3) probably the biggest issue, missing viewfinder - at least a small viewfinder would have been nice, but since its anyways only for video i guess they just forgot abut the EVF to make the camera even smaller (and save production costs/increase profit)
As much i really want to say the FX30/FX3 is not that bad, especially considering video, their heavily limited photo features, price, annoying UI/menu design, Sonys color science, no EVF,... just doesnt come together in my opinion. And i can say that as someone who nearly changed from the RP to a Sony A7SIII since i really wanted full frame and slow mo video both together (until i realized i can not afford it)
The actual camera im using is a EOS R7 (had the RP a long time and R6 for short before), i hated a lot on the R7 already because of 1500€ body only but at vacation i saw a too good deal in a photo store i could not deny. But even the about 1100€ i paid, i really had a hard time to decide if around 1000€ is worth a APS-C camera with a reused DSLR sensor of 2019.
I mean i am SUPER HAPPY with the R7, at least a affordable hybride camera, unlike the in video limited and annoying to use R6 or the for video useless EOS RP. But im not sure if its worth around 1100€/$, let alone the MSRP of 1500$. And the FX30 is even more limited, only in rolling shutter and super slowmo better and cost nearly 1000$ more than the R7.
I dont know, maybe i am just from yesterday, but i think we are getting ripped off heavily on the actual, capitalist style market, not just camera stuff related.
People will explode when s1/h mkII is released when s5ii is already this good
@@trym2121but a lot more expensive than the fx30
And then along came the S5ii.
It's a good time to be alive.
Would be nice if Sony's next firmware gave us some S5ii features. Little things like Shutter Angle or some assist tools.
Does the S5ii have Shutter Angle?
@@sentralent1850 even s5 does
@@sentralent1850 Panasonic has had shutter angle since GH4
I've never understood why Sony doesn't include shutter angle. Maybe because Panasonic makes 'video-first, photography-second' cameras and Sony is more hybrid? IDK 🤔
@@followtheboat You can chosse between shutter angle or shutter speed on Lumix cameras. So that's no really an issue for photographers
S5 IIX? :)
Panasonic S5 mark 2 already beat this FX30 :)))
S5 MkII for sure.
ACTUAL cinema features in that camera vs fx30 and fx3. Still don’t understand why Sony marketed them as cinema cams.
Hmmm… will s5ii ever be a Netflix approved camera without 4K 120 fps and unreliable AF at HD 120 fps?
Lol this camera has already been beaten this year...the S5ii. It's only going to be a touch more expensive than this and far better in almost every aspect.
S5ii has 4K 120 fps and AF at HD 120 fps?
100% brother!!! I love mine. This camera would cost $5000+ just a few short years ago. With lens selection for E-mount, the FX30 will still out sell nearly all current cameras including the new s5 II.
meanwhile Panasonic S5 mark ii is already here so it's been beaten.
that camera is great i have it myself, and you forgot to mention, that the Sony Fx30 can do Prores RAW, 4K 60 so you can get Raw Video out of that camera as well..
Also it's autofocus is amazing, i have tried to make this camera Lose autofocus on my face and eyes and it is hard to do, it just holds focus so well.
So if your shooting stuff like Skate boarders, BMX bike sports or even people running around, this camera will keep up with it all, it's Amazing.
Also you don't have to Shot Cine EI or use the base ISO when shooting Slog 3 i have shot Slog 3 footage as low as 200 ISO just traded off 2 stops dynamic range and when in 200 ISO you don't have to over expose to get rid of nose because there is no noise at 200 ISO at all even in low light.
you really don't lose anything shooting in 200 ISO, because first off the camera has total of 14 stops, and from all the expert test your only going to get like 12.8 Clean Stops meaning Stops with no noise, no matter what ISO you use, your only going to get 12.8 Clean stops, when you go down the 200 ISO you don't get 14 Stops total only 12.5 stops, but your only going to get like 12.8 clean stops any way even if using 800 ISO so really your not using anything, it does say 14 Stops total but that is not clean your never going to get 13 or 14 clean stops Gerald Undone tested this and he did a video testing the dynamic range using Lower ISO's then 800 like 400, and 200 so you should check out that video..
And when i film i'm in a controlled environment where i can control the lighting so many times i shoot at 200 or even 160 ISO and get super Clean video with no noise at all even in the shadows..
Oh by the way here is the Video from Gerald Undone about shooting below base ISO when shooting SLOG3
czcams.com/video/rLG_zlshlSA/video.html
The Panasonic S5ii will be go to for this year. The new AF works with adapted lens which now makes the lens selection a lot better. IBIS is second to none, colors are amazing, straight out the camera. I could go on but wont. Would like to see you review it
Panasonic will be go to if you need open gate or are on a very tight budget. There are still better cameras in the 3500+ range that still out do it in many ways.
If you are making money then expensing the cameras as a tax write off makes them a lot more attainable.
Imo, if you are looking at an S5 you likely could afford an a7siii, canon r5, c70, or A1. Especially when you account that with adapted (canon) and third party (sony) lenses the overall package is cheaper.
@@RiceCubeTech For my needs. The best IBIS plus DPAF is the perfect combo for me for wedding filmmaking
@@KBmediaOnline I shoot wedding films on an a7siii. Imo AF is better, 4k120 is great for those right shots, and I shoot on a gimbal instead of ibis. But I’m glad you found something that works for you!
Gimbals are good for certain things, but realistically, they slow me down which is why I only use them sparingly for shots I cant achieve otherwise. I had an A7IV before so I realize how useful and efficient my workflow will be with PDAF. The IBIS is super important to me because I can maneuver my camera quicker than I can with a gimbal. But again, ill still use the gimbal for certain things.
Absolutely love my fx30, the video features are ridiculously good, and it’s even been great for photography.
The Panasonic S5II will be a fantastic competitor to Sony's cameras (I am an A1 owner and have owned previous Alpha cameras), but it will be difficult for them to overcome the overwhelming collection of lenses available for the E/FE system; also there is still slight 'background warble' that has shown in some tester's videos... either way the S5II should push more acceptance of 6K by the largest camera manufacturers and not just '6K downsampled to 4K' like on most newer Sonys, for example... Definitely want to rent an FX30 and try it's video as a 'B' camera to my A1`!
I saw some footage of the s5ii with updates that decrease the warbling using wide angle lenses. Pretty cool firmware updates!
The Panasonic S5ii has full-featured continuous AF with EF lenses using the MC-21 adapter, opening up a huge selection of affordable glass for the L mount. And it seems to work surprisingly well: czcams.com/video/e0qJ61zu8-U/video.html
I shoot both Fujifilm and Canon. For video, I still cant believe how powerful the C70 is - especially with the recent updates. Internal NDs, CLog2, internal raw, face and eye tracking, monitoring tools all built in, insane battery life and so on. The only cons I have is I wish they had an SDI port and a digital leveler.
Better be for that price tag.
12 bit 4K cdng raw full frame for 1500 my sigma fp beats a lot of the competition out there matches my komodo perfectly
Yeah the s5ii blew it out of the park my g
Great video. Another huge pro is the reassuring feeling you can record longer interviews or podcasts without worrying about overheating unlike the A7IV
The Panasonic S5mkII is definitely the camera to beat in 2023.
I was looking at the Sony FX30, but after seeing the announcement of the S5mkII the FX30 has dropped a few points.
Do you already have a Panasonic S5? The S5II, It might prevent Panasonic users from looking at Sony, but on the other hand GH6 users might feel backstabbed.
Whats that good on the Panny S5 II? Probably a very good allrounder if you can afford it (well fitting lenses are rare and expensive on this system!), but nothing i would really want for video in general.
Its a very photo centric camera, but its 4K video crop make out of it just a glorified APS-C video camera but at least an awesome full frame photography camera.
I mean, uncropped/downsampled 4k60 and probably cropped 4k120 should have been the LEAST to expect considering how much the manufacturers are now bragging about readout speeds on newer sensors.
Dont get me wrong... its definately one of the better picks in the actual situation of the market and development, but its damn pricy for some annoying limitations in video.
@@nyambeI feel a little backstabbed. LOL I bought the S5 Less Than 3 months ago. I'm going to post a video about that on Monday though. But I do feel a certain kind of way about Panasonic unloading all those S5s over the last few months without really saying anything. Although, all the S5's that rolled out did come with a lot of extra accessories, and lenses, but still, the fact that this new camera cost the same is a little shady. :-) mainly because now I know that the camera that I just bought brand new is worth a lot less money because of this new camera. And that kind of sucks. :-)
@Big Cook Yeah its somewhat ok for the price, but im not with you when you say "great glass on a budget level"
The great glass is from Leica, should i say anything more or do you want some examples like the 300 2.8?
@@harrison00xXx all native lumix lens arent expensive compared to sony's fullframe line up. there is a lot of good sigma art lens to complete, and also cine lens.
And don't forget FD lenses on panasonic >>>> sony anyday with his IBIS.
I was reticent also for not having 4K120 (would have been a killer) but you gain so much for the price. S5 IIX (prores internally + ssd record) improved ibis (wich is the best in the market) as a S5 user even with native lense it was shitty AF (i mean reliable if there is no obstacle or too much lights changes , but compared to my older canon 6D mk 2 (it was bad)
now the only biggest weakness has been corrected . TO be honet s5 is priced 1.6k GH6 2K so to have s5 at same price tag is really good.
I’m glad you said that the FX30 is just as good as the FX3. The biggest difference as I see it is the sensor size, but I can’t think of many instances in my career when a full frame camera would’ve benefited me and I don’t think I’d pay almost twice as much money to have it. It’s actually a newer phenomenon to have such a glut of full frame cameras on the market. For much of my career APSC was the most common. Of course, I’d be remiss if I didn’t acknowledge that the camera that revolutionized our industry and put all of us on this course, the Canon 5D Mkii, was a full frame sensor camera, but many that followed were APSC or smaller. Looking at you Panasonic. It is absolutely insane that the FX30 offers so much for so little. That being said, I really want an FX6, but only for the form factor and all that comes with a bigger body. I’d be totally fine with it having a crop sensor. In fact, Sony, how about giving us an FX60?
Fx60 we like the sound of that
The fact that the 4K 120 crops in on already a 1.6x crop is kinda oof imo.
Typically speaking, Sonys full frame offerings also offer greater dynamic range and noise performance.
And the fact that typically speaking, full frame Sony lenses are nicer than their apsc lineup. And the fact that accounting for drop factor, the nicest Sony lenses wouldn’t look the same on apsc and 4k120 cropped in.
For some people that’s a big deal. For most it probably isn’t, but just because the market used to be ok with apsc sensors, s35, s16, etc. doesn’t mean larger sensor sizes arent desired.
I mean if larger sensors weren’t necessary or weren’t wanted, Vistavision sensors, full frame, medium format, and imax cameras wouldn’t exist.
I mean even back in the film days there were larger film stocks than what we would consider apsc.
Open gate is huge. Influencers seem to not have caught up on how important it is yet. Not only for vertical video without moving the camera, but I think the big thing is being able to use different aspect ratios. For example to shoot same ratio like Stanley Kubrick.
Open gate is nice, but it isn’t necessarily needed when you can crop in post and use things like full frame anamorphic lenses.
Even though the sensor readout in the 8k mode is 16:9 you can still crop to other aspect ratios and maintain extremely high quality video since 8k is 4x 4K.
For example, on the A1 I could shoot 8k with a Sirui lens which will squeeze the image effectively increasing your cameras FOV and then crop down to an aspect ratio of 1:66:1. The Sony cameras have guideline features making it easy to maintain your framing knowing you’re going to crop.
And if you shoot in 8k you won’t necessarily lose quality if your final delivery is in 4K or 2.7k like most modern films.
And yes the A1 is a much more exciting endive camera obviously, but the point is, with greater resolution sensors, open gate is less of an advantage since you’re essentially
FX30 until you get the Panasonic S5II in you hands
No 120p 4k.
@@BoomingVisuals 4k120 is overrated
@@jackdubs25 not really.
@@BoomingVisuals True, but I bet Chris will trade that for shutter angle, open gate recording, anamorphic de-squeeze and 6k.
@@IMDABROWN very very true 😂
I agree. I'm pleased and blown away by the FX30. Which is why I bought it. As a filmmaker, I want a camera that is cinema focused. Not hybrid based. I sold my A7iv for the FX30. Which may sounds counter intuitive to some, but, it is a huge plus for me. I have yet to record raw video externally, but it is something I will do eventually. That being said, I am also looking at the new Panasonic S5iix, because I've always loved the skin tones from Panasonic cameras. Having owned and shot a feature film with the GH5, I have a great working knowledge with working on V-Log.
I will probably keep my FX30. But, I can't deny the attraction of the new Panasonic S5iix.
The RAW probably won't be as good as native 4k. RAW 4k is a 1:1 readout i.e. m43 crop onto the sensor. Unless WB changes are needed in post, the internal codecs should be more detailed and less noisy.
I legit get excited when Chris drops another video! Road to 100K this year fam!
BRO I’M GETTING IT THIS YEAR!! ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
Sweet video 📹
One other thing that comes to mind is the cheaper crop sensor zooms and primes in tandem with electronic zooming with the W/T dial.
The FX30 with sigma 16mm f1.4 would be all you need.
Panasonic came swinging! It's a win/win for ALL in my eyes as now Sony and Canon will be expected to swing back or they WILL lose customers. Well done panasonic 👏🏼
It’s a good camera. But it’s not this industry disruptor the CZcamsrs are making it out to be. Small Production teams who can’t afford arri or red will still use canon and Sony cinema line.
Freelances will still largely use canon and Sony mirrorless.
Why? Because camera body features aren’t the biggest thing. It’s the lens selection and that’s where Sony and canon dominate. Canon has all their old lenses which actually work better adapted on the R5 and co better than they did on the old dslrs.
Sony has a better range of native glass AND more third party support than Panasonic.
And the features of the S5 that it has over canon and Sony, aren’t really as game changing as you’d think.
Shutter angle is nice but Sony and canons cinema line already use this. Open gate is nice but if you shoot 8k on canon or Sony, you can already crop just as much on a 16:9 sensor in post as a 6k 3:2 aspect ratio on Panasonic.
Ibis is nice, best in industry, but on a paid job you’re still gonna busy out a gimbal or steady cam.
Genuinely speaking, and I’m not trying to be rude since it is your opinion, but the Panasonic doesn’t bring anything new to the table that isn’t already in existing cinema cameras or can’t be worked around with on other mirrorless cameras.
i agree with what you said about not being locked with one brand. i for one love doing photography with a canon camera, but when it comes to video i only had to picks a Black Magic or the Sony FX30. i went with the FX30 and its so painful that i have to wait till estimated July.. i wanted my camera as soon as possible so that i can start learning with it more.
wish My Local camera store can get my FX30 from SONY ASAP so i can pick it up already, there isnt enought FX30 content on youtube to watch HAHA and the waiting game while having all the accessories for my FX30
absolutely love your energy man
I'll go for Lumx S5ii
Nice video! Just picked one up a couple weeks ago. It's my first camera aside from having the DJI pocket 2. I was able to take it out a few days ago (only day weather was permitting where I live) and fell in love with it!!!!🥰
I don’t know where this channel has been this whole time. You my friend, gained a new subscriber. Excellent work.
High hopes for the a7S4!
I picked this camera up at the beginning of November just after it’s launch. I came from using a GH4 for 7 years before, and what an incredible difference it’s been, and at almost an identical launch price to the GH4 when it first came out. The FX30 is absolutely the best video camera under $2,000 right now
Not the S5ii?? I can’t decide
Honestly
6K bmpcc still beats this.
Specially the 1st gen
That 6K for cheaper price than this unbeatable
in 2022? yeah
in 2023? Panasonic S5 II/IIx
it got beaten yesterday !!! S5mk2
🤣🤣🤣
Lmao 😂 facts
Beaten by what? 4k60 is still in crop. I mean you are paying For FF body and glass and yet, you get a crop. I rather buy a APSC camera and much cheaper lenses.
@Big Cook I use 60 fps most of the day when shooting wedding, like probably majority of people who are filming weddings. And 120 only for a specific shots, so it is not the same.
@@tomaspofilmscurious, why not 24fps at weddings?
And it has been beaten, the name of the winner being the S5ii. But no doubt, the FX30 is still a whole beast with crazy 3rd-party support
S5ii has no 4K 120 fps and unreliable AF at HD 120 fps (go check the review at camera conspiracy) which is already a big lose. Plus while Panasonic has just gotten here, Sony has already moved on the AI assisted autofocus
The S5ii just shut everything h down except for Black Magic. BRAW and that film look from Black Magic is hard to beat. I use a G9 with my Pocket 4k because the G9 is sharper but the Pocket 4k gets me better results faster in post. 12 bit BRAW is on another level as well as highlight recovery.
I was all set to get an FX 30 and the S5ii came out. I’m not invested in any camera system.
My R5 and RF glass got jacked recently. Now it will be a tax write off.
Awesome video and love your enthusiasm.
I’d love to see an updated version! Great vid!
I can work on that!
@@ChrisFranklinJr Just finding your channel and binged a good number of videos. They’re great! Keep it up, man!
@@Authentically-Andrew Aye!! Thank you so much!
Need to take a look at the S5II, too.
What a chilled and humble Video 👌👌👌
Panasonic S5II for me.
lumix took the crown
I love that this video came out ONE DAY AFTER the Lumix S5II, which kicks this one's ass.
We are going to see A LOT OF NEWS between here and May.
I'm expecting a lot from Canon and Sony.
A lot.
Hey Chris, totally awesome video, you production value is outstanding!
I use to shoot M43 with Panasonic GH5 which is still a beast something like the Black Magic, you know. I still own it but do not use it since jumping to full frame with Sony. FX30 is cool I hear what you are say at the same time Panasonic well you know they dropped the S5ii and I heard S5iix or S5xii coming later this year. ...still got love for Panasonic. Would be cool if you are able to get your hands on S5ii compare that FX30. Very nice work man! Keep them cioming.
Absolutely working on it!! THat S5ii looks insane!
Great points!
The Fujifilm X-H2S is interesting with the stacked sensor.
BMD made the big boys step their game up.
Great vid bro, stumbled on your channel somehow 😅 There are so many good cameras now and I’m still using my trusty old Sony A73 😂
nahh, I'm selling all my sony gear and moving to S5iiX it's so much better in every way for the price
The Bling at 3:21 is TOO Real
YOU SEE IT! 😂
I respect your opinion but the fuji xh2s is the best apsc hybrid camera out right now. The extra $700 is absolutely worth it to get a stacked sensor.
I want one but like for the same price you can get an fs700r and atomos with 4k pro res raw up to 120fps. Idk it’s a huge camera but I love mine.
Also a lot of the footage coming from this camera looks pretty wack DR wise. Reminds me of the Sony f3. Still looks good but not great.
S5ii
Lol you got me at Nikon hahaha
Its also annoying to multiply all your lenses by 1.5x, and the fact that anything above 60fps 4k is cropped makes it a No go for me...
Can you please do.a.low.light comparison between fx30 and fx3
I take you FX30 and raise it by a Panasonic S5ii x
IF YOU are coming from Sony a6600 series, or using S35 format, or even already FX-3 then the FX30 DEFINITELY works for you. If you are using FF set-up and are used to FX, then it's not enjoyable using the FX30 as there are plenty of things for you to worry during filming. So I am selling off my FX-30. Dynamic range is bad. Highlight roll off is bad. Lack of viewfinder makes it extremely hard to focus under bright lights conditions. It's just me.Enjoy your FX30 guys and girls.
Great video. What's that mic stand
amzn.to/3kMSmw8
Just subbed the other day, great content!
Thoughts on this camera FX30 vs. GH52 or GH6?
the GH52 is crazy good! Need to get my hands on it!
what about Panasonic s5II is this better than Sony FX30???? BTW love your videos enjoyed a lot!!!!!
Much love! And yeah the Panasonic wasn't out yet when I scripted, filmed, and edited this video! Haha, so I am definitely looking into it!
Great video! Learning a lot ultimately from some of your videos. May I ask, what’s your best camera recommendation for making tattoo videos and photography content. Slow motion shots and close up would be some of the essentials to consider. Appreciate your knowledge! Keep it going.
The Sony A7iv is a great HYBRID camera for both photo and video! Great low light as well!
Dji 4D would have been the clear winner I'd RED wouldn't have sued them for using their 4k raw format 😭😭 so no 4k raw on the best one
The camera to beat this year is the Panasonic S5ii X hands down.
2000 usd Panasonic S5II says hi!
Very dope video. Question what mic stand are you using in this video?
amzn.to/46aiqUb
Great camera Wish it was in my price range I’m
Currently using a d3500 for photos and been messing around with video for my kids sports (baseball,softball, tennis, volleyball) what would you recommend as a step up? I don’t have Upgraded lenses still using the kit . Really want something with decent autofocus . Would a faster lens for my current camera help?
Parker Walbeck has great recommendations on his channel for entry level video cameras! Focus speed is a combination of the Lens as well as the focus system. Getting new lenses can drastically improve your quality of life when it comes to filming, so I would find one you like and rent it.
Lumix S5II vs FX30? Really? Filming is not only about one camera, is about a system. A system that extends to friends, second shooters, clients, type of work, accessories , lens ecosystem. etc. Chris has 2 FX3 and a bunch of lenses. Some have a the A7iv, A1, FX6, A7R5, FX9. Others, have ZV 10, a6x00, a7III. The FX30 makes a great compliment to all these people.
Sure, justify it to yourself. For the same price the S5 ii has way better features (Colors, Codecs, Ibis, Ergonomics, Shutter Angle, Waveform, Vectorscopes, Luminance Spot Metering, Now even Usable Autofocus, Full Frame, Open Gate, Anamorphic Support + Stabilisation, more and more cine glass being released for L-Mount, Sigma Lenses and awesome good quality unified prime lenses, a long future of amazing firmware updates to come courtesy of Panasonic) ❤
@@benja1378 Sure, but I am happy now! In fact, I was already happy with the A7s mark 1 which had none of that. Still love that camera. It will never be about specs, If you have a story to tell. Today biggest challenge is to find stories to tell that is why people test this cameras shooting their pets, their kids or themselves in their garde or a park nearby.
A camera is only as good as the DP who handles it. And aps-c is pretty close to super 35, like many many many movies where shot with.
First, you talk about gears, and now, when challenged, you switch gears and move your goal post to talk about the storyline? In other words, you talk about what's on the camera first, then switch gears to the person behind the camera?
I'm addressing your argument and not necessarily taking sides on the Sony vs Panasonic. I'm a Sony A74 shooter, by the way.
@@michaellim4165 You don't have a single video in your profile mate. go home
What would be a solid wide lens for the fx30?
Sigma 16 mm f1.4 - great quality and affordable.
I bought a BMPCC6KP in Juli of 2022 and a few months later, the FX30 was released which would have been so much better for my workflow.
Not that I can complain about my BM but damn :^)
s5 MK II is your man dude !
S5ii bro
what SD card did u use in all ur cameras?
PROGRADE V90 256GB
Great video as always! :) What's your thoughts on the Sony a7iv? It seems like it is more like the fx3 in the sense that it uses a fullframe sensor (outside of 4k60). On the other side though, the bmpcc6k isn't full frame and it is an amazing camera as well. 😅
FX3 is a cinema version of A7s mk 3 , the a7iv is not like the fx3 , the a7s3 is the fx3
Great content! thanks. I have a quick question. I am a photographer and typically hire someone to do video while I photograph events. I purchased the FX3 and my videographer is having difficulty acquiring focus on some scenes. Where can we direct ourselves to learn more on focus settings (specifically for events) I purchased this camera thinking that it would be great for autofocus but it is just not happening.
Philip bloom has a great set of videos on autofocus with Sony cameras. Start there.
Focus is also lens dependent! But yes, phillip has an excellent video and you want to make sure all those focus settings are tweaked to your liking!
Panasonic S5 II HOLD MY BEER >>> FX30
as an old panasonic users. Can tell you that i was jealous of sony af , specially on gimbal . Panasonic af was just atrocious , even on S5 with lumix lens. BUt as pana users you are used to it in exchange you got the best IBIS on camera (on m4/3 ) and fullframe.
Now S5 II with a good af >>> specially at 2K price range and even under 3K price range, (nothing to beat). You wanna use FD lenses ??? can't be a better choice than a panasonic specially with his IBIS.
I have a canon and when i put my 135 f3.5 and fd 50 1.4 its night and day compared to my gh5 or s5.
now S5 II will hit the market as much as gh5 did in the past.(ibis , af, codecs , prores internally with s5 II X + SSD record) still con factors for crop in 60 fps
Great Video, Is the Blackmagic 6k G2 Camera good for a video podcast being that it doesn’t have autofocus?
Most definitely! Crazy versatile
Hey, do you have recommendation which hybrid camera to buy for video and photo in 2023?
I believe the A7iv is a very solid option for both photo and video!
Hi,
Great Videos but if you like BRAW so much the best option will be in 2023 S5ii or S5iiX which is a FF Blackmagic like from Panasonic with Phasedettect AF
By the way I have 2 Org S5 and BRAW Vlog from them has more Dynamic range better low light vs BMPCC6K or 4K I own as well.
Sure you need Blackmagic video assist 12k for it.
Why spend it on an APSC camera like FX 30 with no DCI 24fps or 48 fps.
And 10 bit 422 alli unlimited is since 2017 in Panasonic GH5 onboard so Sony was kind of late for that 😂😂😂
For me better money for the bang is S5ii...AF is probably not an issue anymore...just one plus of fx30 is 120 fps 4K on fx30 but it is cropped and even smaller than GH6 MFT sensor.
And nowdays with Topaz AI I think S5 120fps footage could hold it even upscale vs FX30 120 fps.
Btw I am not payed by Pana and still big fan of your channels specially the video during covid pandemie.
Much love! And yeah the Panasonic wasn't out yet when I scripted, filmed, and edited this video! Haha, so I am definitely looking into it!
Except it has an APS-C sensor......
W Vid
Is Panasonic SII or SII X better than Sony A7S III?
That's a TOUGH question, I haven't used the Sii yet but I know the A7S has an unbeatable autofocus and low light performance is much better! But it also a bit more expensive so that's expected.
Did you shoot at moody gardens?
I did not!
lmfao cough cough Nikon love it
great vid bro. How would you compare the low light performance of the FX30 compared to the FX3. I was thinking that was the big difference. From what I heard dynamic range is negligible. PS. I bought two FX30 units instead of one FX3...plus I might even pick up a third.
Dynamic range is quite a huge jump iirc. At least 1 stop or more. The FX30 sits at around 11+ stops (13 with some noise reduction), but the A7S3/FX3 is 12.5. The only S35 sensor to match to FF is the X-H2S with more DR (14.3 stops after NR) than the R5C (roughly 13stops with NR), or the C70.
@@professionalpotato4764 would you say that most of the testing people have done is wrong...from what I have seen ie Gerald Undone...the dynamic range difference is not that large 1 stop...
@@seancloutier2577 I am quoting Gerald Undone figures.
@@professionalpotato4764 czcams.com/video/TcchabAvvtw/video.html. I cannot see any difference on my 10 Bit 4k Benq...and there are a lot of these out there...
@Sean Cloutier That was shot in a cloudy day. The scenes he showed barely requires like 10 stops of dr to display. He didn't even test HDR scenarios. Go find one where it's unlit indoors with windows. The FX3 will pull ahead for sure.
What mic is that you’re using on your desk?
The Shure SM7B
I am a sports videographer, what’s your recommendation for a solid camera? My work supplies me with an fx3. I would love to own my own yet it’s too expensive. What’s your thoughts? Fx30, a74?
I have an fx30 and an a7iii, and I love them both. I ended up choosing the fx30 over the a7iv as an upgrade to be my new main cam earlier this year and I’m so satisfied with it, I thought the aps-c crop would be more of an issue but it hasn’t really been an issue at all for me, and the fx30 has even been amazing for photography. This camera surprised me with how much better it was, I knew it would be an upgrade but this thing is seriously great. I’m sure the a7iv is also amazing, and obviously would be even better for photography, but if you’re mainly doing video I’d highly recommend the fx30
FX30 for sure. The A7iv you would be over-paying for photo features you don't use. Also the crop in 4k60 also means you need 2 sets of lenses for slow motion (especially wide angle). Doesn't make sense to buy APS-C and FF lenses for 1 camera. At least there's barely any crop in the FX30 4k60p. And you get longer reach for lower prices too.
Imagine if sony didn't push the technology to mirrorless. We would have been stuck with dslrs.
My only issue with the fx30 is the grain, thoughts on this? I feel like i can't use it in most lowkey lighting situations
Grain hasn’t been an issue for me, I’m still learning how to expose SLOG2 but so far it’s been pretty solid even in low light, granted I’m using some pretty fast lenses most of the time. With the 24mm f1.4 GM at 4k60 and 2500iso it seems to do very well in lowlight, with minimal grain. I haven’t made a ton of videos using it yet but so far I love it and it’s been blowing my a7iii out of the water
@@LindustriesOutdoors How have you been exposing SLOG, the +1.7?
@@jasonleung6433 yeah I usually start with that, it’s hard sometimes because the metering isn’t always 100% accurate, a lot of what I’ve been filming is on snow and ice, so there’s just a ton of white in the frame so you have to be mindful of stuff like that and what you’re trying to expose, but yeah getting what I want to be filmed exposed around that +1.7 mark makes the footage look great. Also been so happy with how far I can push this footage in terms of color and exposure saving in post.
@@LindustriesOutdoors Thanks. This is what I'm confused about too: with white snow the metering might be flashing +2.0 but it still won't be exposed 'bright' enough to sufficiently reduce noise in post. Also S-Log is just much darker than PP0/11 so even though it already meters +1.7 the image is only just about exposed correctly (and not overexposed by +1.7)...
@@jasonleung6433 yes, often with all that white snow and ice in the frame the metering will be flashing like it’s way overexposed, just have to combine it with all the other tools to set your exposure, and also just use trial and error and make it work. I’m not perfect at it, but the footage has a lot of room to work in terms of saving it in post too. Love this camera and all that I’m learning using it
The lumix s5 mark ii and mark ii x is better than this
HHHAHAHAH "There is buyers remorse with certain things (Nikon) lol
Another good title: I bought a fx30 and I’m trying to justify the purchase by telling people about my purchase… lol the s5mk2 is leaps and bounds better than this piece of crap lol
Hello! The Panasonic wasn't out yet when I scripted, filmed, and edited this video! Haha, so I am definitely looking into it!
Does the auto focus on the fx3/fx30 work with those dzo film lenses or any cine lenses or do you need sony lenses for the auto focus to work?
DZO lenses are manual focus only, regardless of lens mount.
Nope, the Canon R1 will be king for a while.
the biggest con this camera has: Its totally unavailable anywhere!!
Fx30 🤮