Did This FNAF Theory Just SOLVE Golden Freddy?! | MatPat Reacts To
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It's been too long since we reacted to a FNAF theory here on GTLive and one I've seen making the rounds recently is @Dual-Process-Theory's video. I haven't exactly had 2 and a half hours to sit down and get into yet so I figured this was the perfect place for a Five Nights at Freddy's deep dive! Time to get back into our favorite deadly franchise friends!
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WHAT
WHY AM I JUST LEARNING ABOUT THIS NOW
HI MATPAT WHATS UP MAN
CONGRATS GUYS! YOUVE REALLY MADE IT
yooo its dual process i loved your video
WOOOOOOOOO THEY ARE HERE
Theres something sweet about the fact Mat is still with us after retirement
Well, he's our friend. He has even said that the banter he makes at the start and end of the GTLive stuff is because he likes to feel in touch with the viewers, so I never really thought that was gonna go. Besides, GTLive is the equivalent to a reaction channel, so he's not exactly working while doing this, since the editors are other people and he just sees something or plays a game... and I love that, he's taking it easy now, leaving the work to someone else while he just does what he loves
so he's not retired then?
Seriously what is this fandom?
Rip matpat it's almost as if he's still with us.
@mrmanakin9684 he's retired from the running the main theory channels, gtlive is more or less a casual thing
He’s with us IN THEORY
So I was just rewatching the dual process video and noticed something - in the fnaf 4 minigames, it shows us that the employee inside the suit looks out of the mouth of the suit, NOT the eyes. To me, that makes it more likely that a slumped over/dead employee could be deep enough inside the suit that only the hair would be sticking out. Just something that struck me as noteworthy
Omg you're so right!
especially when you also consider that people have varying heights! entirely agreed
Good point, although I'm not sure the eyes of a springlock animatronic can move out of the way.
Still, in Afton's death scene one game prior, his eyes were shown to be looking out of the mask's sockets, so you might be onto something!
The suits need to be big enough to fit a person so it makes sense with all those mechanical parts
it could also be a teenage worker who died before hitting their growth spurt
I've always assumed that in the "I will put you back together" scene, William IS in person talking to CC, not through the doll. But in CC's delerium and near-death state, he sees William as his imaginary/plush toy friend that has the same voice FROM the walky talkies from earlier.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Ooooh!!!
Could potentially explain the slightly different text color too, maybe
yeah I had my own thought that was similar as well. He is in a coma and we already know that when william speaks through the doll it has a certain colour. Maybe CC was dreaming about the doll speaking to him however when the other text appears it is williams true voice. Im not sure but i dont think we ever heard william speak outside of the bear in fnaf 4, however the only line of text where it would make sense that hes no longer talking through a speaker is the one with a different colour?. Id also like to point out that maybe the text is just different to put emphasis on how important his line of thinking was in that moment, since it lead to the same line of thinking in sister location?
Which makes sense,William lovibg his kids or not was a very neglectful parent. So it makes sense that when he is there in person,CC’s mind can’t even conjure his dad for comfort only the image of him in his mind
'I wanna hop in without a whole lot of witty banter' *at the half way point of the witty banter*
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Guys, don’t reply to the bots. I’ve heard that CZcams doesn’t take care of them if you do that.
@@banana9347 look closely at the names, they're making new accounts. even if you don't reply they'll still come back
@@banana9347 Bold assumption that anything will be done regardless.
I’m so happy someone in the fnaf community whose popular is covering this cuz it was NOT getting NEARLY enough attention
It’s definitely one of the best videos I’ve seen as to date!
Definitely and it’s probably one of if not the only theory that ties everything together nicely and still makes sense
Same! I love this theory so much I’m really happy he’s watching this!
I honestly saw this video because RyeToast shared it. He is one of the major players.
Yeah, it has been criminaly underseen
Matpst Im BEGGING that you don’t abandon this video like really it will change your entire view of the series 😭
The vengeful spirit being Michael makes so much more sense than some random kid named Cassidy.
I don't really get how this makes more sense, Cassidy made sense as TOYSNHK, Michael barely does, and why would he to begin with?
@@AlfaresAnashave you watched the full video? i think they present some compelling evidence
@@TennessineGD I didn't (planning to do, tho), give me the evidence
@@AlfaresAnas i don't remember every detail but here's the overview:
- after the death of CC (or maybe even prior to it too) William starts abusing and manipulating Michael
- according to their theory, the games themselves (minus 3) are William sending Michael into places he's been in to "clean up" and get rid of evidence
- actual torture and nightmare gas may or may not be involved
- there's a VERY important part of the theory that i do not want to spoil but suffice it to say that Michael may or may not know too much about something that William really doesn't want him to know about
- the last time William sends him somewhere to do his bidding is when he sends Michael into SL to "fix" Elizabeth. Michael gets scooped because of this, but the catch is that there's no way William didn't know this would happen. he knew Michael would have died, and sent him in anyways because he cared more about Elizabeth, and also because he wanted to get rid of Michael now that he's done with him.
this all leads to Michael's voice lines in the final SL cutscene:
"Father. It's me, Michael. I did it. I found it. It was right where you said it would be. They were all there. They didn't recognize me at first but then they thought I was you. And I found her. I put her back together, just like you asked me to. She's free now. But something is wrong with me. I should be dead. But I'm not. I've been living in shadows. There is only one thing left for me to do now. I'm going to come find you.
*I'm going to come find you.* "
the "She's free now." line shows that he doesn't really blame Elizabeth for what happened to him, and he still loves her somewhat.
but he repeats, very clearly, that *he is going to come and find William.*
I still think it's "Cassidy", just... You know, the Cassidy suggested by the video; CC. The associations between Golden Freddy, the Child's face, and Michael just aren't strong enough. It is an *incredible* theory regardless, and I want to see Matt's reaction to all of it.
this surely going to be part 1 of 8 and I'm so here for it
Can’t wait till part 5 where we reach the 20 minute mark
8 parts? At his going rate of one hour per 4 minutes, it'll be closer to 38.
The series will be longer than the video soon.
@kellynine7438 we are over 20 minutes in.
@@RFDN0 but we haven't reached the fun parts yet, everything until now was pretty mild lol if they really manage to pull out just 4 parts I'd say they're missing out on free great content
Dual Process' theory was the first FNAF theory in a long time where I felt fully satisfied afterward. I'm so happy that Matt is watching it.
It's honestly the first theory i hate to disagree with, it's so well done overall I hate that I can't come around to it
@@jpreyes6640 why can't you come around to it?
@@hamstersandwich9917 Granted theres is lots of connections and maybe very little to prod, but there's more stuff, like there need to be 5 MCI, otherwise it'd be the four missing children incident, Neither charlie nor Evan (yeah i agree with the name for starters) are part of that incident, they did convince me that puppet can and should come last, that maybe we got something wrong with the book (i think it's more likely all three afton kids having a convo), and that CC's body is in the box, but the theory about adding evan to the MCI? pinning that on henry then inmeadiately killing charlie when the circumstances mean he would be suspect no 1?
Same, this theory gave me peace after so long!
I like how well it dovetails with GiBi's ginormous FNaF timeline/theory video-they complement each other very well
A week late, but...
55:00
I like that Mat mentions that the suit wouldn't fit the person while the screen shows a person not fitting in the suit correctly. The eyes are in the mouth, where we'd assume they should be at the eyes of the suit. Plus, if the springlocks went off, the corpse might not have enough strength/spinal integrity to hold the head up...
Right? That could EASILY be an employee following policy
I'm actually not shocked by the Cassidy theory and have low-key pondered this since way back when the word search was solved.
It always felt odd to have Mike and what seemed to be the Crying Child linked by a logbook yet have the puzzle name a third party we didn't even know existed at that point while also containing "it's me" as if the person should be recognizable.
I mean, that's true, but it just doesn't make sense that the person who reoeats to scribble "My name" is then not actually saying their name but the name of CC
Right It never felt right to me that Cassidy was so connected yet so separated from the main plot. Dual's theory makes so much sense. Top tier content!
Not gonna lie, I love long videos in general.
Those videos being more supported on CZcams now is a blessing for my eyes, but also a curse for my sleep schedule
Real. I love love love love love longer content the only downside is I often have to leave halfway through but I dont mind lol
so true!! I hate how short form content is taking over nowadays lol I never stopped liking longer, less edited and genuine videos :)
I made a Playlist of long FNaF theories just to bathe or sleep to.
The let's play curse is over, there was a time when only those got recommended to everyone and YT had to intervene in the algorithm to make it bearable again.
Long form videos are a great alternative to podcasts and audiobooks too, providing you with something to listen to while doing other things, like chores. The longer runtime also allows video essayists to present more thorough analyses.
Matpat: “It’s a real commitment to sit down and watch these CZcams videos that are feature length films!!!
Me: *Glanced at the time length of this video* 👀
he's the hypocrite we all love
This is a “live” channel that isn’t edited, just the raw footage. That different than what he’s talking about. Film, game, and style theory all are on the middle end in terms of length. This channel has always had long form content, that’s nothing new.
@@arcage_0132 I was just making a joke :/
@@JustALittleGuy_hehe my bad, I’ve seen comments like this that were serious
Ah man. Were you around when GTLive first got started? Not pulling the “I’ve been here since the beginning” card but you should take a look at the average time of the older videos. They were like this all the time, sometimes two hours.
1:03:24 my take on the crying child being bit is that IT PHYSICALLY CANNOT BE A SUIT FAILURE. the spring locks are not wound up while the suit is in animatronic mode, the tears couldn't trigger them to snap into place.
I keep thinking about this!! Why isn’t it mentioned more?
This is something I feel confident about. There's no way The Bite is a "springlock failure".
Even if they were wound for some reason, would they close the mouth shut like that? I don't think so.
I've always been saying this ever since it was first asserted to be a springlock failure by MatPat. It's a major pet peeve of mine to this day.
As someone who has NOT followed the theories for literal years now and never saw the “it was a failure” thing I always just assumed it was “put squishy thing in between robot doing a job, squishy thing go squish”
That mouth is built to open and shut in song, and it shut
Yeah the suit wouldn't be on stage and moving, without eyes visible through the mouth, unless the suit is in animatronic mode. So the springlocks aren't in use at that point and cannot fail to cause the bite
I will say, I have a 10 year old son, and he loves all sorts of horror. He has fnaf toys, Poppy, doors, the works... but the second I take him costume shopping at spirit Halloween and we walk near one of the decoration displays, he's by my side and shaking like a leaf. Sometimes the big things are just scarier.
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Yes but they said that he was scared of them when they are robots but not when they are costumes, so if he was just scared because of it because of its size or look it would always be scared of them not only as robots.
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@@chatgris2331 When was CC never scared of them as costumes ? Every scene whether it was an endo, suit or robot mode, he was scared, the only time he wasn't as scared was when he was looking at the plushies, this clearly indicates that it's not the character he is afraid of, but he actual giant suit/robot.
@@leofhr2966 43:40
I've been saying for years that the entire lore needs to be looked over from the ground up, because the fandom has been stuck with these assumptions turned "facts" for years at this point, but no one's believed me. I'm so glad someone's finally done it and they get recognition
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@@JosephVissarionichStalin Pls tell me this is a joke
3:06 says the man who turns 7 minute videos into a 4-parter each an hour long.
lol
man, the bots are still at it? Quite pathetic innit?
Legitimately my thoughts lol
@@xlutchinqgoz4840 a little painful tbh
@@xlutchinqgoz4840 Nah fr though- At this point, I'm surprised that none of the GT crew made a theory on this alone-
Like GAWD DAYM I SEE THEM IN EVERY COMMENT SECTION!
MatPat. Ash. GTLive team as a whole. I NEED part 2 please 🙏🏼
25:47 I just noticed that Afton's got ^_^ on his stomach. I will never be able to unsee that
Yeah I noticed that too lol
In regards to being afraid of the robots but not the characters, that's actually a very common reaction from kids. Growing up, I loved Daffy Duck, but the first time I went to a 6 flags park and was approached by a Daffy mascot and I legit panicked and cried. There's a big difference between having having small plushies and a giant character towering over you.
That's how I've always rationalized his fear.
I had the exact analog of this fear as a kid- I knew the guy in the Chuck E. Cheese suit was a guy in a mascot suit and was fine being near it and hugging it and whatever. But the animatronic one? I could slowly kinda approach that one while it was performing and not freak out but the panic would rise. And when it wasn’t moving it weirded me out even more because, like… what if it DID move suddenly
And don’t even get me started on seeing it through a gap in the curtains at the ones that did that during breaks in the show. Still gives me the creeps 😅
FR- I remeber when i us younger I was terrified of chuck e cheese, like i did not want to go near the person who walked around in the costume nor the animatronic on stage but I still liked the characters
Absolutely agree
Yes! I know so many people who love Disney but hate the mascot costumes. It's completely valid and it frustrates me to no end that Mat completely disregards it.
@@averyemlI was the exact opposite of you, I loved the Chuck E Cheese animatronic but I was terrified of the suit. I knew the animatronic was fake but the suit? There was a person in there, and I couldn’t predict what they would do. They could kidnap me or something. It’s probably telling about me that I thought this as a like 6 year old (this was also before FNaF so I had no reason to think the mascot would hurt me other than stranger danger)
There are a few drops and emotional hits I NEED Matt to see. DualProcessing’s answer to what’s in the box has to be the most resonating theory with me, and “the one you should not have killed” is PERFECT. Matt you’re in for a treat with this theory istg
No kidding, Mat is going to be shocked I feel.
did they say it was the crying childs body
@@ryuined Matt hasn’t seen that yet, but yes.
@@Drave_Jr. W that’s 100% what i think it is too. “what’s in the box? its the pieces put together” makes so much sense.
do they say that gregory is cassidy then?
@@ryuined That also puts a real macabre twist on the saying "I will put you back together"
One thing that bothers me with Sister Location is that EVERYONE assumes it takes place in 1983.
To me, that room with the plushy and the cameras is a shrine. "Never forget." That isn't the Fredbear that he talks to his son through. That WAS the Fredbear he talked to his son through, the one his son carried, just below the keypad, whose code is his son's death-year, that turns on cameras to his son's room, not a thing moved since that day.
When making the sister animatronics, making their capture systems, Afton remembered his son's nightmares of his springlock suits. Why not? His animatronics were far more fluid and amorphous than the previous models.
And to me, with FNAF 4, the crying child, being Afton's son, was aware of the springlock suit and the men inside. Maybe he was the right height to see inside. Just at the waist. And in turn, when the springlocks failed, he was the right height to watch the "teeth" dig in.
Edit: Forgot to mention
I believe the crying child told his father what he saw, describing the springlock as some stomach maw.
Also, missed a couple words.
I agree! Why is everyone assuming that he must have used the radio while in the bunker, and not, you know... Used it before and then brought it down there?
@@cawareyoudoin7379 honestly for small things like that, which are really important clues, its just to vauge about what they mean. Entire theorys can be made and be compleatly different based on 1 vauge detail interpreted in different ways which make me think the story will never be solved.
@@MasckedUp Oh, yeah, definitely. At this point I do not believe it is possible to "solve" fnaf in an objective way.
If he did tell William, then maybe thats where the quote "whats seen in the shadows is easily misunderstood in the eyes of a child" wouldve came from. It could be William gaslighting CC.
FINALLY Cassidy is Crying Child gets some attention, I've been thinking this for YEARS
Omg that major theory also works with the princess quest storyline with Cassie’s dad. OMG IS CASSIE NAMED AFTER CASSIDY/THE CRYING CHILD AFTER HER FATHER FEELING GUILTY FOR BEING BONNIE BRO?!?
I'm fairly certain that's said in the original video, actually :) or at least that Cassie was written to take on the fandom idea of who Cassidy.
This isn't really a spoiler, it's more of a last thought of the og video
@@JDM-is-my-nameyes yes, exactly this!
Love this!
yeah they say this exact thing at the end of the video
I’m at somewhat shocked because I had thought while watching that theory “I really wonder what Matt would think of this, but it’s such a long video there’s no way he’d react to this”. I am so glad to be wrong.
SAME
same and I hope he didn’t skip any part next video
Sameee
I love matpat and that he's retired now but waiting two weeks for another part of a reaction video is just crazy XD
Wait. People were thinking Fred Bear's Family Diner had to be in the '70s or '80s? I didn't realize this was part of the problem since I only hang out around game theorists.
Based on real world history, that's just extremely unlikely. Because it's a diner. No one was opening diners in the 1970s. That's when fast food restaurants took over.
Diners were prefabricated on the East Coast in the early 20th century until the Great Depression. But they were really noteworthy to me as part of the post-WWII boom, which is when most o the rest of the country got diners. A fair number of vets came back from the war and opened them up in the 1940s and 50s.
So I've always been presuming that Fred Bear's Family Diner was founded in the 1950s because it's a diner. I mean, I'm about as old as Scott, so I would think he had similar world knowledge to me. So I always figured that was what he meant.
49:09 One thing about this whole "What did CC see" debacle:
Circus Baby was programmed only to strike when there was nobody else in the room, and her retelling of the events also say that kids only came in after it was done. While he could've secretly been peeking in, the fact that they put so much emphasis on Baby counting the kids in the room tells me that he wasn't there; therefore, that's not the thing he saw that made him scared.
Thank you; I'm glad I'm not the only person who paid attention to that detail.
thank you, I didnt even know CC seeing Elizabeth die was considered in this fandom, it just doesnt make sense
The theory I've always had is that CC walked in on Elizabeth getting snatched and bolted to get his Dad before Circus Baby saw him, but idk if it makes any sense
@@ziridestaudiosI think if this was the case there would be a much higher chance that Elizabeth would have survived.
@@5252coolguy very true...
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I love Ash
As Supernatural fan that word has different associations for me 😂
44:54 for anyone looking for it!
I love when Ash gets sasssy and calls him MATHEW 😂 so hilarious. It’s like using a siblings full name when your mad at them.
MAT IM GOING TO LOSE IT WHERE IS PART 2 YOU ARE A COOL DUDE
1:10:44 this one frame. Right here. I can see/hear the gears in grampat’s head as he sifts through a decade’s worth of fnaf lore to see how Cassidy Afton fits
I literally saw the dual process theory blip past my recc vids like 3 weeks ago & went "wow 2 hours" and here it is in matpat form. This is like... 3 streams worth of material. AT LEAST
2 hours? Nah, we're looking at like 8 streams
We’re looking at least 5. This will take a while.
what I'm really waiting for is the 8 hour video that explains fnaf
Please watch it, it’s so unbelievably good and just as thorough
@@Aisenhelm The so-called "short introduction".
I've been hoping Mat would react to this! As an early pioneer of the CassidyVictim theory, I'm really hoping this will be the push it needs to get it more widespread!
Under an hour gang 👇
I had never even heard of it but now I subscribe
Heyyy I remember you theory from reddit!! Good to see you here and I think the same!!
I watched this theory and I was wondering if MatPat would see it too!
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It’s almost like he’s still here with us, fly high Matpat 🕊️
someone tell me when part 2 drops
No fr I need it now
55:39 I see what he's going for but if you look at the spring-lock suit shown on screen the actor's eyes are clearly coming out of the teeth of the animatronic on the bottom right. That partially indicates the size of these suits, big. The spring-lock suits would naturally be bigger when someone is in them because of the added size of the actor and the pressure applied to the outside of the suit when the spring-locks are pulled out. Given the size, it might be possible for the suits to hide somebody. Especially if the person is slumped.
That’s what I was thinking, add to that the pressure from the spring locks probably compressing the person further into the suit and/or them curling up due to the immense amount of pain they would be in, it makes sense to me you would only see the tufts of hair. And as they stated earlier, there wouldn’t be much external bleeding as the spring locks are plugging up the holes they create. Obviously it’s highly likely the person would twitch/writhe/struggle so there probably would be some bleeding but perhaps not enough to exit the suit without a significant amount of time
It definitely feels like a reach though.
@@knaughta.masso-kist5944 It doesn't feel like a reach to me at all.
Cc is so scared in that room, even if it's just the robot parts, I do think that's where he was traumatized
@@lorettabes4553 He was traumatised by robotic parts? I'm sorry but I'm not buying it. There is a big difference between just being scared and being genuinely traumatised.
@@knaughta.masso-kist5944 You do realize they gave an explanation right ? CC was traumatized by the clearly dead body inside the suit in that room he was locked in. A kid is a kid, they get traumatized by the smallest possible trigger or bad experience, don't claim it isn't true either because I bet you don't work in the medical field, guess how many traumatized kids exist for even the smallest of things, you don't even understand or know ANY of that. Their imagination alone makes something as silly as a shadow walking by look like a demonic monster coming to reap their souls.
What's great is all the effort these two did entirely by themselves to produce a feature films worth of easily (as it gets) digestible, comedically bouncy and entertaining lore nuke. What's even greater is that this was the first video on their channel!! As much as i hate giving the bottom of the barrel knuckleheads at youtube an applause, i gotta admit the algorithm is at least kind of helping newer channels out a bit more
describing this as "entertaining lore nuke" is truly the best way to describe it, lol
entertaining lore nuke is probably the best compliment that could be given to this video.
it’s sensory overload but lore
And it's fully captioned in a way that accurately represents the video, which is an amazing commitment to accessibility and greatly appreciated!
Agreed. They took something that typically reads like hieroglypics and made it reasonably understandable.
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'CZcams videos at this point are movie-length, or higher, it is overwhelming' Matpat says in his 75 minute theory reaction
I can already tell MatPat's entire viewpoint of FNAF is going to be changed after watching this well-thought and researched theory video!
Yes, we definitely can expect a new theory of FNAF soon making mention of this video
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around 1:05:00
So, I'm sure this has been brought up in the past, but the EKG needs a reading to give blips. While a flatline does mean the heart is in serious distress or stopped, yes, it could also mean that whoever was hooked up to the machine was removed from it, meaning there is nothing to monitor and the line goes flat. It's possible CC doesn't die in the hospital, but that he is disconnected and moved somewhere else.
Actually kind of relates to a possibility Dual Process posits later in the video!
It's a possibility but still a head canon, due to a lack of evidence in the games even a lack of parallels in the books. It works, but it's a biiiiig stretch for sure
This also supports DPT's theory, they say that cc was removed from hospital before he died
part 2 pleeeeeeeeeaseee 😭😭😭
The twin in the novels is probably just an explanation from Henry so that Charlie don't find it wierd that their father grief a dead child he never had.
He probably added Sammy into Charley's memories too since it would be much easier for hismm to mass this lie this way.
Other characters confirm Sammy's existence in the trilogy
@@almightykellus2585 rip. But wait. Are they possibly doing it for Henry has he told them to lye about her kidnaping so that she recover better.
But that's omega spéculative.
Instead I'll ask. When does thoses character talk about Sammy? Is it in Charlie's memories?
@@captainphoton1693 On pages 259-260, they find the newspaper article about how a toddler was taken from Fredbear's. "The headline was small, but it was on the front page of the paper on Monday, November 1: TODDLER SNATCHED."
"The story had continued over an entire page inside, with pictures of the restaurant, of the family all together, and of her and Sammy, though neither of the twins were named in the article."
@captainphoton1693 On pages 271 and 273 of The Twisted Ones, Charlie is trying to get Springtrap to tell her why he took Sammy. He responds "I didn't choose him." on page 273 and "I didn't take him. I took you." on page 274. I feel like, if Sammy didn't exist, he would have questioned who Charlie was talking about instead of having those responses.
@captainphoton1693 On pages 306-309 of The Fourth Closet, Elizabeth shows Charlie some of Henry's memories. On page 308, one of his memories is talking to Aunt Jen, where she tells him "It doesn't have to be that way, but you need to let go of this. Your wife; your son, they can still be a part of your life, but you have to let go of this."
2 notes about the theory abt the crying child seeing an employee die:
-If the suit had enough internal room for it, and likely would for ease of getting off, it's possible the adult slumped into the suit's middle section as the slumped to the ground. Like idk if there's room in that core for a kid to be in fetus position, I think its fair to say an adult could like slump into more too.
-They specifically noted eearlier that the injuries from springlocke failure wouldd very likely be intense INTERNAL bleeding, which would explain lack of splatter/pooling around the suit.
But when William afton got springlocked it was specifically portrayed to be a very bloody scene in the mini game which is inconsistent with their claim
@@adamhau9336 Is it out of the question that a suit being actively used, undergoing frequent upkeep, would be working well enough to keep a tight seal on any wounds, while an old suit rotting in a backroom may have broken pieces that cause worse external injuries?
@@adamhau9336 He's also specifically in a different suit. Bonny's suit is a lot slimmer than Freddy's so it's likely valid to say that the springlocke failure would be less severe in the Freddy suit than Afton's Bonnie suit.
Yeah I feel like the fanbase has ignored that spare room scene. I think this idea that it's an employee is probably the best answer, the other option it being a victim of William. But who at this point? Henry's daughter that he just killed for no reason? Who died outside the restaurant, it wouldn't make sense for her to be in the suit. It also looks like short male hair.
@@adamhau9336that suit was full of holes
Mat really said, "Let them cook" at the end
A thought occurred upon rewatching this, and I have no idea why I've never thought of it before. CC getting bit can't be a SPRING LOCK FAILURE because fredbear isn't in suit mode on stage, it's in animatronic mode. The spring locks aren't pulled back, they are in the resting state. It must have just been the natural motion of the jaw to close, but it can't have been a failure.
On the argument of "it's not an adult inside the fredbear suit" my thought is that, if you look at the picture of the character next to the table with the balloons, you can notice that his eyes only reach the mouth... In the repair room the character is not only in a resting position (which would allow their body to sink in slightly more taking up more space{of what little there is i know}) but they are also leaning forward which would place their face at a downward angle, meaning that you'd probably from a physics standpoint only be able to see the top of their head. (Which is what we are shown there) A child wouldn't be able to be seen because they'd literally have to be standing in the suit while it's sitting for you to see their head. Which you can assume from the fact that afton was hiding the bodies in the suits without being caught... At least with actual evidence of bodies... That it'd be nearly impossible for you to notice it as easily as you do in the second reference. So I'm sorry Mat, gonna have to disagree with ya there. Still enjoy ya tho. 55:50
The cockles discussion had me cracking up so hard. I heard what Ash Heard, and it was painful.
Fuhnaff, Rye, and IdsFantasy are old hats already? Things move fast in this fandom.
I mean, this fandom is barely a decade old and feels like it's been around since like... 1987!?
Waiting for part 2 to drop, I NEED MORE😭😭❤️🔥
To me it makes total sense that crying child witnessed someone getting mortally wounded by a spring lock failure, and for the dad to push on that trauma and fear, to keep him away from the suits, knowing how dangerous they are. Which is why he allows Michael to continue the bullying.
But the problem isn't that the crying child doesn't know how dangerous the suits are, it's that Michael doesn't. So not knowing what the crying child saw, and not knowing how dangerous the suits are. He takes it one step too far, kicking off the entire series, with the first death.
The wires or body part isn't as important to me, either way the child has seen someone dead because of the suit and doesn't want to be close to it. It could be wires, or a decomposing body that's slumping into the suit. Why they would keep that around, I have no idea, it's the FNAF universe....
Also, on a different note... Fun fact, depending on what colour wheel you're looking at. Yellow is the opposite of Purple ( more commonly it's green, but bare with me ) Making william afton both purple and yellow, could be symbolic to a change of character after the death of crying child and the five missing children case. Meaning he wasn't always the purple guy, he became the purple guy. Which narratively, I looooove
I didn’t recognize the name at first but when Ash said “two sisters” it clicked for me. Their video was very good, I’m really excited to see what Mat thinks
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I think the change of color can be explained by a change in tone. William was probably putting on a voice when he was being Fredbesr, not just using his normal speaking voice. If he dropped that at the end, or said the final line in person, not through the plush, it would be a different voice as far as CC could tell.
only matpat could turn 20 minutes of a 2 hour long video into an hour of reaction footage
You NEED to watch the rest of this theory Matt, it makes too much sense too me and I NEED to know your thoughts on it!
This theory changed how I see FNAF I’m so excited to see you react to it😁😁
Great comment sry for all the bots please report report REPORT
poor matpat thought he could escape fnaf through his retirement but no it always comes back
SAME!!
@@AIIy3000 the CZcams Commonman honors your efforts
@@macshaffner6273 "I ALWAYS come back!" -William Fnafton
19:58 Imma throw out a possible surname, for if Emily was a middle name - Schmidt.
Proof?
- Michael, in the fnaf movie, appears to be Henry's kid. His last name in that installment isn't a cover story, but rather his actual name.
- It makes thematic sense for Michael Afton, when taking a pseudonym as a way to seperate from his father, to take upon the name of his father's rival.
- It's a German surname that means "metalworker," and Henry is established as the engineer.
@@JustAnotherJames3 that's surprisingly decent reasoning, hopefully people see this
might be worth commenting on the original video and maybe subreddit too
Henry Emily Schmidt.
Doesn't sound like that bad of a name.
@@JustAnotherJames3 definitely hcing this unless it's disproven
@@JustAnotherJames3 interesting.
that whole cockles talk, the generated CC actually censored Ash at one point XD
43:33 I have never realized the "shadow animatronics" are the animatronic's shadows on the wall. How did I miss this. I always assumed it was stuff in the background 😭
When the driver in Midnight Motorist talks to the "bouncer" he says 'Come on, you know you can't be here. Don't make this more difficult than it has to be.' IMO that doesn't read like they asked you to leave earlier for being drunk. This feels more like this is someone who is never supposed to be on the property again, like a troubled past owner? That feels strong to me.
I always read it as a bouncer since I first saw the scene.
1. There are multiple cars at the location during midnight(since the game is called midnight motorist) which makes me belive that this is not a Freddy's location.
2. The fact that there is security standing outside in the rain.
3.The man seems to be under the influence. His reckless driving, his weird posture, and his attitude towards his kid points towards a man that is either really mentally ill or drunk.
Most likely, the driver just recently got told to leave the bar that day or was asked not to return priorly due to bad behavior. The green man's words to me portrayed a bouncer that knows why the yellow man is drinking excessively and doesn't want to have to use force or involve the police.
@@retwewe9916 I understand what you're saying, but I feel like if the issue were that the motorist had been there earlier the 'bouncer' would have said something referencing earlier. The way it's phrased seems less like something that just happened causing the refusal and more like something the motorist is just known to do. I don't refute the motorist seeming drunk but that doesn't necessarily mean he was returning to the place he had drank earlier. Maybe he does this a lot so the bouncer is ready for it. Sometimes, when a person drinking as self treatment for emotional pain, they can end up deciding in their drunkenness to go fix the problem/address it in some way. Like the cliche of the drunken ex showing up suddenly to 'win you back'. But that could also support your argument so who really knows? XD
@@Caexkepesk the bouncer doesnt have to say something to reference earlier. its called 'later that night' with the keyword being THAT night. hes been here earlier and is returning again. thats my interpretation anyway
@@strshells just rewatched gameplay of midnight motorist to be sure, when does it say the words 'later that night'?
@strshells ok now I found info on the file name or whatever it is. I guess that is something.
44:01 if I had a nickel for every time the word “cockle” would be said in the following few minutes I would be rich enough to pay off inspectors so I could keep my shady children’s restaurant running 🐻🎤💀
I got a solid 32
@@SophiaSanderson-nl7tf Inspectors: *shrug* money is money
Don't forget, the cockles are ribbed. For enjoyment
@@toastytoast77ash was trying so hard to save him😭
Matpat be like “remember when people were going crazy about dialogue color and shades of yellow” my brother in christ YOU started it all😭😩
CONTINUE THIS PLEASE 🙏
Was so hoping he'd react to this one. Honestly, after all this time and even though it conflicts with my own theories, they kinda convinced me.
I think this is the first one where I can't find any fault with it, other than some nit-picky things. They made their case well, and everything feels solid.
@@jonathanhibberd9983 Agreed. There are a few points of evidence that feel a bit weak, but the logical chain and the conclusion I just can't find an argument against. Like even if I completely disbelieve the weaker spots, the argument still holds.
@@jonathanhibberd9983 two of my biggest problems with their theory are: 1) they treat UCN voicelines too seriously, and ignore that only few of them are directly said by Vengeful Spirit
2) They literally ignored the best fnaf 4 cutscene, where Crying Child flatlines after his family/friends say their goodbyes
@@lemadmem1224 the voice lines they use which they say are the vengeful spirit all have the secondary voice that indicates it's the VS talking through the animatronic.
And they ignore the end scene of CC's death because there's no relevant information. There are two, maybe three people talking (if the two yellow colors are different people). We can assume it's Michael & William (maybe one yellow is William talking through GF and the other is him talking directly). There's no evidence that it would be anyone else, and plenty that it's those two. And no matter who it is - it has zero impact on their theory. They don't address him by name, so his name can still be Cassidy. The only way it changes their theory is if one of the voices is Charlie and the other is Elizabeth - meaning he died first. Which is ridiculous. Or if one of the voices was the vengeful spirit, which is equally as ridiculous.
@@jonathanhibberd9983My biggest problem with the theory is the fifth MCI kid being basically written off by the theory
Clap and half for Ash, for 1:08:43 excited "Keep going keep going" cause I was saying it too.😂
This theory feels so much more natural and logical than other theories. I love that even after so much time people can still come up with new theories.
My interpretation is that CC is afraid of the animatronics because his brother has traumatised him to them with his pranks.
But he isn't afraid of the plushies because he knows they're plush and cannot hurt him, and has probably been raised with the plushies.
His brother easily could've put a wig on the opening for the head or stuffed a mop in the neck hole before locking his brother in there to freak him out more. Might explain what it meant about misunderstanding what he saw in the dark. He'd be too scared to see what was actually in there, especially if his brother told him the animatronics eat people.
I could totally see Mike and his friends, running to the kitchen, grabbing a mop, and a bucket of pizza sauce, and setting up a 'crime scene'
Maybe even leaving him there (relatively) late at night, knowing that he was expected to walk home.
You know, it's weird. I somehow have a much easier time sitting down and watching multiple 2+ hour long CZcams videos, than I do watching most ACTUAL movies nowadays. 😅
honestly for real
Probably bc we can multitask through it
Depends on what movies you watch
I actually love super long videos for listening to while I'm doing something else because it really limits the amounts of time I have to stop what I'm doing to pick out something else, and I actually find it a lot less overwhelming to listen to one topic for four hours than eight different topics at half an hour each
Oh boy I can't WAIT to see part 2 of this.
OMG I was literally just thinking "When is Mat gonna cover that one FNAF video? It was pretty good"
Fans: People acting like matpat is gone forever😭
Matpat: Matpat still doing things on gt live😎🍹🏖
This man knows how to do memes ❤
44:50 Ash dropping the "Mathew" bit was performed with the perfect delivery and I love it
Fnaf is like a Spinosaurus ever changing and weird.
Mat is talking about not being big enough to wear the suit, but on screen is someone’s whose eyes are poking out of the eyes. If that is how the springlocks work, then the body in the suit could be an employee
Totally! The suit is slouching down in the one scene so it could totally be an employee slouching into the suit similar to a turtle
Nah, not really. The springlocks will keep the person in place and prevent them from sliding down ~6 inches into the suit. We would be able to see waaayyy more hair IF there was an adult springlocked in there.
As a Cassidy can confirm was crying child.
Hahaha this is great
I can't wait for matt to finish covering this video
soo... are we gonna get a part of this video every other week? Are y'all trying to stretch this out until the end of the year?
Oms 😂
The fact that the video started with fnaf 3 phone guy mentioning the "unfortunate incident at the sister location involving multiple and simultaneous springlock failures" is very interesting go me, especially since dual process theory mentions they don't really know how to explain the shadow animatronics, so I'll try my best to explain what I think here: Matpat's fnaf 3 theory that the springlock failures mentioned were 2 employees in a fredbear and springbonnie costume who went on to become the shadow animatronics because their bodies were removed from the suit is, at least in my mind, the most logical solution to this question. Since then Matpat has changed his thought on this and thinks that that phone guy call is a reference to the bite of 83', but that can't be a springlock failure since by definition, a springlock failure is when the springlocks in a suit in suit mode come loose and release the endoskeleton parts putting it in animatronic mode, so how can the bite of 83' be that springlock failure if fredbear was in animatronic mode when he bit the crying child
TLDR: Matpat was correct about the shadow animatronics and the springlock failures in the fnsf 3 phone guy calls from the start
That also could very well have been what cc saw in the back room with the slumped over animatronic
YES I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
i was such a big doubter but this theory is actually so solid
This theory tied this story together so well, and im so excited for mat to react to the rest of it.
I am begging you to streamline this! Yes the other stuff posted on GTLive is awesome BUT I am so excited for you to get through their whole theory!
MatPat's Insanity Ending is incoming after this one.
54:05 "Which means you only really need one 'failure' to have happened. Which seems to imply that that was Afton's death, or Afton getting trapped inside... Or not Afton getting trapping inside, because that happens later... but someone else potentially dying inside." ...someone, like the person they theorize Crying Child saw going into the backroom to bleed out?
54:41 As for the person stuffed in the suit possibly not being an adult~ or at least not being someone who'd be hired to wear the suit, because, y'know, short people exist... They're slumped over, dead. Not exactly standing up straight, properly wearing the suit. Why couldn't their now crushed-by-springlocks, deceased body be a bit more compact than they normally would be? It's just a couple inches, going from their eyes sticking out of Fredbear's neck, to their hair sticking out of the top. It's not like they're buried in there, clearly a foot or two smaller than someone wearing the suit should be.
Logically, if they are skewered by the spring locks, that should hold your body up as they are located throughout the whole suit. Slumped over or not, your head's not going to sink down inside the suit by 6 inches or so leaving just the top of your head sticking out. Thankfully, we've seen the spring suit in live action so we know exactly how the spring locks work and we see just how deep they dig into the flesh when they go off thanks to the movie. With those Klaus basically digging deep into your rib cage and sides, there's no way you are sliding down 6 inches or more so only the top of your head is sticking out of the suit. At best, your face would fall forward in the top of your head would be facing outward, but that's not what we see in that image from the game. From the game we see what looks to be something brown sticking straight up out of the neck.
It's also unlikely it would be someone shorter as they probably wouldn't be able to use the suit properly to begin with since they would not fit inside of it in a way that they would be tall enough to actually see out. I'd be surprised if they had stilts in the bottom of the legs to compensate for shorter people. Logically, they would hire people that would naturally fit in the suit without having to alter the suit in some way.
That's just my random thoughts as I lay here ready for bed.
Around that second point;
I don't think that it's ACTUALLY a body
But that CC is misinterpreting what he's seeing as there being a person slumped over in there
What's seen in the dark is easily misunderstood in the eyes of a child
I don't think he was really against that, the whole tangent about the "simultaneous springlock failures" was just there to explain his interpretation that, That phrase could mean just one person dying and not multiple people in close succession
Also it I do think the point still stands even if that scene isn't actually showing a body. Like they said, members of the afton family would have known about the backrooms and on a different occasion could have either been locked in the backroom or walked in when someone was dying and is now terrified of them. Like yeah this is speculation but this isn't any less speculation than cc somehow seeing Elizabeth die especially considering that they were confirmed to be alone.
Okay but about the hair peeking out of the suit... I don't think its a child, when you see william place the mascot head on the other employees only their eyes are peeking out. Is it that far of a reach to say the potential adult in the suit is just slumped over?
need the next part
Happy Pride y’all, do you think that Fazbear Entertainment has corporate rainbow capitalism
oh they totally would
100% there would be rainbow freddy merch
Something I noticed in the graphic novels were that colors changed for random frames. Like in the fourth closet William afton clothes color changed between pages. Probably because “line art” and coloring are done by different people
Oh my gosh I need part 2 like yesterday.
LITERALLY NO WAY ITS BEEN TWO WEEKS
53:50 - I think that both can be correct. If we assume that there's a missing comma... "multiple, simultaneous springlock failures". As in "simultaneous springlock failures have occured multiple times." Is that an unreasonable assumtion?
I think this is likely. “Multiple springlock failures” could be multiple minor incidents where a single springlock snapped back into place and lightly wounded an employee, whereas “simultaneous springlock failures” could be the dreaded multi-springlock failure cascade like what happened to William.
Their FIRST video, amazing quality
I think the crying child liking the plushies, but not liking animatronics, could be equivalent to a little kid liking a Mickey Mouse doll, but not liking the giant human actor version, because it’s completely different. Or the cartoon version and dolls, versus one that towers over you or moves weird or something.
Also, probably dumb question, but where the main cast actually at that location? Because we just see the spring suits so maybe they’re not even at that one and he’s just afraid of those particular animatronics or location.
DO A PART TWO I NEED MORE
Okay, I want to see more of this. Are you doing it?
44:00 Ash had the same energy as Grant during the TFS sekiro seed fiasco😂
Even though Mat can't escape FNAF yet, it's still nice to see him reacting to it
It really bothers me that Mat can't understand why CC would be scared of the animatronics but like the plushies. I know so many people who love Disney but are terrified of the mascot costumes. It's completely valid and normal.
It’s almost like he’s still here with us 😔 Fly high, Matrick Patrick!!🕊️🕊️