How to make a Razor Mx350 run on Drill Batteries - JordyBuilds
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Hey guys today we make a Razor Mx350 run on milwaukee batteries! If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
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I have this exact same bike, but I’m wondering do I have to upgrade my Throttle and controller to a MX 500 or can I just keep my MX 350 Throttle and controller ?
The stock 24v stuff won’t handle the 36v as it’s a on/off throttle not variable. I have an over volt kit on my website for sale now in the description, check it out !
@@JordyBuilds so do I have to use the kid off your website or can I just use the mx500 Throttle and controller ?
I already have the controller and Throttle from a buddy of mines.
@@TripleD-oj3hxyou can use either! You will have have to do your own wiring! The kit is just plug and play for ease of use/convenience!
Great, simple process. I wish more videos were this way. Great job! I have my parts on order already!
I appreciate that a lot! Glad to help! Should have some new videos coming soon!
Me and my dad watched your videos and put our bike together to your videos it came out great!
I love this!
Great video! Yard looks good and that tree is awesome too!
Coming soon! Got sick and have been down and out! Thanks for your support
Great build!
Thanks!
Thx so much I did it and it works great 👍
For your next upgrade, you should try to do a shunt bypass mod. It made a big difference with acceleration, on my mx500. And if you can get a controller from a mx500 or mx650. Those controllers can take 50v. One problem I did have, after the shunt bypass mod, was that one of the 30 amp fuses blew. So I replaced it with a 40 amp. I think your mx350 would go 25 maybe 30, with another battery.
Thank you so much this is sooooo helpfull
Glad to help !
I’ve got a custom MX350 cafe racer I’m working on and planning to do this. Thanks for the great video. I’ve posted on Facebook
Thanks for sharing!
I also sell my own set ups now as well !
Haven't used drill batteries yet. But I did wire in an extra 12v battery, cut just one motor lead. Have it on a switch, one way normal. The other setting the motor sees 12v with no throttle, throttle gives you the normal 24v.
There ya go!
I'm trying to do the same thing. I got an identical 12 volt 7 amp battery out of a jumper box. Just added the third battery in series and then I got some quick connect stuff so I can charge the original two batteries with the original charger and use my AC/DC quick charger for the third battery. So after every charge I have to connect those wires back up into series. However after doing all that crap I'm just using stock 350 controller. I don't feel like I'm getting any more speed out of three batteries. It might even be running slower. Thought it might be a charging issue. I am definitely no electrical engineer. Are there any more details you can share with me about getting a stock mx350 to run on 36 volts with a third 12 volt battery. Or do I need to buy some upgraded electronics? Everything I try to do I try to do is cheaply or free as possible so you know... Lol
Recently bought one of your kits. It should arrive tomorrow. Cant wait. Did you have to cut the plastics to be able to access the new battery setup?
I don’t run the battery covers for Milwaukee batteries!
Hey mate great guide. Can you wire in a throttle limiter for when my younger son wants to ride it?
Yes you can it’s called a potentiometer!
You are the shit,.. Thank u for doing the video breakdown
Thanks boss ! I also sell plug and play kits now!
@Jordy Builds On my MX650 speed controller, the connect that brings power into the controller actually has 3 wires, 2 main (power and ground), and a third small red wire that is tapped into the main power. Any idea if that small red wire is required and what it does? I wasn't able to find a diagram that explained why it was there
If you look up mx500 controller wiring diagram it should come up on google images. It’s more than likely the wire for charging stock batteries
Can u Pls do a close up on the contriller and which wires you cut
Don’t have to cut any. Just need throttle, motor, battery
Hey Jordy just picked up a what i believe to be a mx350 from 2010. (V22) is your tool battery/controller mod compatible with it? Also, do you have a video showing how you mount the Ryobi set up?
I’m about to do a video on installing a full kit I sell on a mx350, I just did one with a 40v ryobi battery adapter and the 36v controller with throttle & volt meter/key switch set up! If you shoot me a message on my facebook I can send you some videos today! It’s Jordy builds , also linked in description of my new video.
Hey so I wired mine just like yours in video and I just get a clicking when cracking throttle everything stock on bike also it worked with stock battery’s
It needs to be a Mx500/Sx500 controller and throttle. If you already have that, sounds like it maybe a dead battery.
So I hooked my son’s hyper 350 the way you did. Both 6.0 Milwaukee batteries were fully charged. After my son’s first ride he checked the batteries and they were flashing only one cell. Have you experienced this before. The batteries are brand new.
Are they real Milwaukee batteries? Put em on the charger a few times that may reset them. I always suggest pulling batteries at 1 bar
You could probably just use some 24V Kobalt batteries. I think Craftsman had some of those, too. They didn't make a lot of items that took them, so they're more rare than Kobalt.
I think the point is to use the batteries you have instead of buying new ones
That may make for 48v
Quick couple of questions. Are you able to wire four 18v batteries totaling 72V if I upgrade the other components? And will the batteries add up to 72v and drain equally?
Your have very low amp output for 72v and that’s really stressing the batteries but it’s been done. 18x4=72v and they should drain evenly if they are all same charge and capacity(ah)
I have the mx650 . Can I put 3 18volt batteries on series without blowing the motor up? I saw a guy making it a 72 volt, but had to upgrade controller, and motor.
You should be able to but it might blow the controller up eventually
Hello, I'm building an occ chopper bicycle with an mx350 motor with controller.
I have 2x( 20v, 3.9 ah) batteries. Amazon has adapters with/without fuses.
Idk if the batteries are enough, or which adapter to buy?
I read that some batteries and motors permenatley died trying this please help.
I never had a fuse on mine but you can just put a fuse for what your controller is rated for. Example: 30a max current controller so run a 30/35amp fuse
If I want to switch my mx350 from 24v lead to a 24v lithium battery do i need a new throtle and controller and if so will the one you have on your shop work for 24v lithium?
No you will not, it’ll work! However it may be in your best interest to go 36v and get a potentiometer(top speed adjuster on my website) that way you can turn down power and slowly turn it up as they are ready for more power rather than have to buy a whole new battery
So I can do everything you did on the mx500 or 650 ? Is this setup ideal for them aswell ? Thanks man , good vid to
Yes. Although a mx500 weighs significantly more so you won’t have as high top speed or as long of range
@@JordyBuilds any suggestions on what I can do for run time / ideal build ? It’s to start my 7 year old on , appreciate the info
I’d try to snag a mx350 to start with, if not there’s more options to see on CZcams or in “modified razors” Facebook group!
Great video! If I want to add more batteries to make it last longer I should just connect all of them in parallel so I don't get over 36v and fry my controller?
Sorry for the late response but yes!!
Ya, you can add as much as you want, it will only draw the amps it needs at that voltage.
At what voltage do you need to stop use? Was looking at adding a low voltage cut off my kids won’t pay attention I don’t want them to drain the batteries past their limit and ruin the batteries
I believe the milwaukee batteries have bms and don’t let them go below their minimum
We did this upgrade and my daughter burned the motor 😅. We ordered the mx500 motor and now we gotta build a bracket to mount it on the bike. Will I have to change the chain or add links? If you have any advice I will gladly take it.
I would order an extra chain with a master link just in case with a chain breaker but it shouldn’t be too difficult! If you need help let me know
Do you need to install low voltage cutoff switch to prevent battery from over discharging?
I pull batteries at 1 bar. I’ve ran em dead before and not had issues but it’s not recommended
With this setup are the Milwaukee batteries protected from being over drained?
Not particularly but I just stop running it when it’s 1/4 dots or just when I notice a decrease in power!
I know you said you'll make a video comparing how much faster it will be. But can you tell us by feel how much more torque and faster by feel.
So I never rode a stock one, I got this one with no batteries and did the upgrade. But I’m 140lbs 5’10” and I hit 20 mph on flat ground, rather quickly!
I'm 170lbs my stock mx350 gets to 14mph. It's dramatically slower on the grass though but still gets up to speed. I'm curious how long do those batteries go on a charge.
@@irocss85 little over an hour for me!
How do you connect the battery adapters to the battery mount frame?
I send two bolts so you can drill hole and bolt down
Do you HAVE to get a MX500 controller? I wired my batteries it wants to move with 2 ryobi 18v batteries but doesn’t
Yes and a variable throttle. I can sell you both if you need. Shoot me a email @ jordybuildsyt@gmail.com
I have a mx500 controller but does it have to have the variable throttle or would the stock throttle work?
Variable throttle
Could you use this same setup with one 40v 6amp ryobi battery
I’m not sure if the battery specs on those.
Can u just use all stock parts and just put 1 dewalt adapter and run it just on that? Or I have to have 2 dewalt batteries and upgrade the voltage controller and throttle
No that’s a 18v battery it won’t power a 24v system
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Would this work the same on the Razor Pocket rocket? Want to convert one to high power drill battery but don’t know where to get parts and what parts to use?
Yes. Try razor website or scooter parts
@@JordyBuilds Ok thanks for the advice!
Stupid question but how bad would it be to hook up 36v to the factory controller on the 350?
I believe any razor controller can handle being over volted 12volts and work fine for a bit but it’s not 100% ideal
@@JordyBuilds thanks.
I don't really care about the system. If it burns up ill just upgrade it then.
I have two 12.0 milwaukee batteries om my mx500 but I'm about to get a couple of 350s.
I think I'll try the same thing and if it works then good and if not that's OK too.
I just wanted to make sure it wouldn't fry something as soon as I hooked it up.
Would this work with the Milwaukee M12 batteries with the stock MX350 controller and throttle? If so what amp-hour batteries and how well do you think it would work?
No
@@JordyBuilds Well it did work but with a total voltage of 24 volts, it was slower the the lead acid batteries that are over 26 volts I just measured. To be safe I tried an M12 + M18 for 30 volts so I wouldn't blow anything. Both had 4amp-hour batteries. Seemed fine for a 1.5 mile ride with my son on it but long-term I'm not sure if the unbalanced battery setup would cause an issue if I decided for a more permanent long-term mount of this.
You absolutely cannot combine different voltage batteries OR different ah Batteries. Doing both I’m actually surprised you didn’t have a fire. I would definitely suggest you do a lot more research before you continue.
Do you need to use the mx650 throttle and controller or can you use the existing one
Yes
What about the one small red wire without a small black wire? I dont have a meter to wire.
You won’t need it
Do you have to have the mx500 and sx500 eletrical kit?
You need to have a 36v brushed controller with a variable throttle
I’m having trouble calibration the battery display . Bough mine used and don’t have the instructions
I’d try to find your exact one on Amazon and they usually have a picture of instructions there boss!
What did you do with extra cables on the controller? Not sure If I saw you use them all?
Since it’s a mx500 controller it has some extra connections I didn’t use like brake light and such! I usually zip tie the extra wires together to help with cable management.
@@JordyBuilds I am getting clicking and no movement on the motor. I am using only one Milwaukee drill battery at the moment. Do I need to use two for this controller to work?
I’m not sure if 18v is enough as some require a minimum input
Will a stock mx350 perform with two 18v Milwaukee batteries
No you need 36v controller and variable throttle
Hi Jordy. Have an issue that I’m wondering if I could bounce off you. I followed your video, minus replacing the control board and throttle. I’m getting power and the motor will “click” and if I turn the throttle 15 times it will actually go. Wondering if you have any thoughts on what could be wrong?
What controller and throttle do you have?
@@JordyBuilds the standard throttle and controller that came with the mx350
I upgraded to the mx500 throttle so I could have a variable throttle. The 24v is just a on off throttle really
Hey Jordy, just in case someone else asks, it was definitely the controller. There must be some limiter in the 350 modal but works like a charm with the 500 controller. Thanks!
Super glad to hear ! Thank you for the update
I Just upgraded mine but with a battery pack with an XT60 connector, what the best place to hook up the display screen?
Either the stock plastic battery box or I’ve seen people mount them by the handlebars too
@@JordyBuilds Oh gotcha, that makes sense but I was trying to figure out how to hook it up for it to work with the XT-60 connector. Also Is there a special button or configuration you have to push to get it to work?
It should come with directions to set up for your battery. It just connectors to the positive and negative of your battery wires off your controller
Can you give the battery specs of the battery, is it M18 18-Volt Lithium-Ion XC Extended Capacity 5.0 Ah Battery?
Yes both are. Both need to be matching.
Have you had any problems with motor heat
It gets a little warm but haven’t had any issues with it
I got eveything installed i have power and here click noise on the contoller when i hit the throttle but the motor is not moving. I am using two 18v 5ah milwakee batteries. Any suggestions?
Are you using a mx500 throttle and controller ?
@@JordyBuilds yes
Sounds like a bad motor or the chain is too tight maybe. Join the Facebook group “modified razors” and ask there. Forums or Facebook groups have helped me trouble shoot a lot
Hi, when upgrading an MX 350, what makes the bike run faster and go further, higher volts or amp hours? I purchased a power sport AGM motorcycle battery and it fits the MX350’s battery compartment. Which is better, the drill batteries or the motorcycle battery?
Thank you!
You’d need multiple batteries in series using batteries like that. Not efficient pr put out any amps at all.
Volts is your top speed and amps is how fast you get there. If you don’t already have multiple drill batteries I’d recommend a cao mm lithium battery from Amazon!
@@JordyBuilds
Hi Jody,
So, I would like to purchase the 36v 800w Controller with Throttle Overvolt Kit you have on your website. However, I would like to use two 18 v Milwaukee batteries, and I am unsure how many “pins” under the battery option I should choose.
Thank you for your guidance!
@@readyfreddy77 I have a full battery adapter kit with the Milwaukee adapters all together! It’s in the over volt tab. I’ll link it in description as well
@@JordyBuilds
Already placed my order. Thank you!
You can find the milwaukee battery adapter on temp for $ 4.71
Plus a good chunk for shipping. Going to be offering plug and play adapters very soon!
Are the last 3 plugs used for anything ?at 7min12seconds can’t figure that part out
I didn’t really see what plugs you mean. Just need motor, throttle, and battery when using the mx350 controller
It was the three tied together
Hey man i built mine using 12v batteries in a series to get 36v. Currently buying new throttle and speed controller. But i hooked it all up (without a speed controller) and used a switch instead of a normal throttle. Now the bike only last like 10 mins on full charge. Do i need to get a 36v speed controller to get more power longevity out of these batteries?
Please i need help. Thx
what AH are your 12v batteries?
@@JordyBuilds 7.5 amphs each
Hey man would this work with 3 or 4 of the 20v dewalt batteries? I wanna buy a 72v motor and controller, and figured instead of buying a 700$ 72v battery i could use 3 or 4 of my 20v drill batteries?
They high of voltage is not recommended for 72v and it would still be low amps so wouldn’t be much point. For intro to 72v I’d recommend a 72v 20ah 120a from amorge
@JordyBuilds thanks for the response, financially I think I'll have to go lower volt than 72 for now definitely lmao
@@marcz239the shrimp depo on facebook has 60v batteries for $250/$300
where do you put the on and off switch ?
I don’t believe I used one
How long the berries last tho
Little over an hour on flat ground !
Is the throttle you put on variable?
Yes the mx500 throttle is variable. The newer stock mx350 throttles are not
Hey was wondering if you could help me out with a couple things on this build. I just finished the same build. Only difference is I’m running two 20v 5ah batteries. The led volt meter always shows 100% and never moves. The volts works, starts off at 40.9v but then only will go down to roughly 32v and the bike is almost dead. The tester right on the batteries shows they still have power. Not sure why I’m not getting full battery use. And not sure why the percentage is not working on volt meter.
The bolt meter comes with a manual you have to set it up for what batteries you are using. As far as the power just make sure both batteries are fully charged. If it wants to stop and go still it’s possible the motor is going out
The discharge curve from a lith-ion battery is very different than the lead-acid ones. The meters have to be compatible with battery type. You may be getting inaccurate readings. Also, lith-ion drops off very quickly in voltage. It could be reading 40v one minute and quickly dip to 30V, and by this time, the battery needs charging.
Your 5ah batteries are not dropping 10v in a minute. 30v is also below the voltage cut off when you’d need to pull batteries. Make sure to not spread misinformation.
@@JordyBuilds look at the lithium ion discharge curve. With a large enough load, it would easily run out of juice in a minute. The curve drops off a cliff.
You’re incorrect but okay
Thanks I had just picked up a electric scooter but it had no battery and I’m not even sure if the motor still works I tryed n bypassed the battery plug to a 20v battery I have power no movement
I’m about to just throw a lawnmower engine on it if I can’t figure it out
One 20v probably won’t do anything. Most scooters are 24v
@@JordyBuilds yeah I found that out it’s cool ether imma just upgrade it or just put a mower motor in it
For perspectives? How tall are you?
5’ 10”
What will this do to the motor over time? How fast will it go?
See my other video! Motor last a long time on 36v
@JordyBuilds ok, also what is the recomended bike/battery? How much in total did this build cost? I am thinking about building one for myself, but I don't want to spend to much on it. I want it to do like 25 or 30 mph if that is possible.
@@bricksandpieces1 it really depends what you want. If you don’t go milwaukee I’d go lithium. A 36v 15ah I think is like $180
Can I use a mx650 controller and throttle
Yes that’s exactly what I used here
How long does the batteries last like this?
40 minutes to an hour depending on weight and size
I'm in the Modified Razors Group too but I'm in the group of crazy people that want 70mph out of an MX650.... 😁👍
Going to be me soon ha!
@@JordyBuilds - Yeah, that kind of happens.... I always tell people when they first ride one "Welcome to your new addiction" and it's not a joke. 😂
Will this work for the mx400?
Yes
What kinda run time does those two 18v 5 amp batteries get you?
About an hour on flat ground! I’ve done a little over mile round trip on them lol!
@@JordyBuilds Wouldn't it be able to go more than a mile it it could run for an hour drawing 10 amps?
@@mattanfang what
@@JordyBuilds Sorry I was confused at how much runtime you got on them with 2 5 amp batteries. I think you mean an hour runtime and so far you've only ran it for a mile but that's not the total distance taken in the hour of runtime. My kids are smaller so maybe 2 5 amp batteries will hopefully suffice. Thanks again for the awesome vid
@mattanfang I did a full test not in the video on how long I got to ride on two 5ah milwaukees in series and it was about 45 minutes but I’m also 150lbs
How would i connect 4 of these in order to achieve 72v
Wire them in series!
Armando... have you done this yet in 72volt? I heard that it will burnout the motor. There is an upgraded controller and motor for 72volt that can be purchased to accomplish that upgrade. I was just wondering if you did it to know exactly if it works.
@@nextgeneration4211 yes i did but for the over volt 24 to 36 i used 2 in series and 2 in parallel and recently went with the big boys to a 72v 3kw motor and controller on 4 m18 batteries in series
Qual kit relacao?
Details in the description!
I have a newer mx350 what do i do with the on off switch?
You can wire it in if you’d like
@@JordyBuildshow do I do that? With which wire?
I did this to my hyper 350 and it’s going in reverse??
That’s very odd. The polarity of something must be backwards
Something's wired backwards
So we did this to my sons. Only issue is when he full throttles it makes a whistling sound. Anyone know why
Just the motor from being over volted probably
@@JordyBuilds should I update the motor?
If the motor is not making a smell it’s probably fine
how many teeth does the pinion have? and how many teeth does the crown have?
Stock sprockets I think the motor has a 11 tooth sprocket
How many hours dose it last on those 2 batteries
Little over an hour on flat ground!
Can I do it with one Lithium 20 vote dewalt battery
@@jamesthompson6085 no, that’ll only be 20v. They are more than that stock
@@JordyBuilds dose the on /off button still work or no
I did mine but my motor works but tire doesn’t spin
Probably need a new freewheel or weld it
Is this everything you need
36v razor controller & throttle, battery adapters. That’s about it
Is it still chargeable
I charge the milwaukee batteries individually
I run 40v on mx350 controller and it didnt fried
With variable throttle
If I ad the controller and throttle to my 24v mx350 will it give me any more power? Or work? Or do I have to do 36v?
Yes you need 36v to run the 36v controller
Is that a stock motor
Yes
@@JordyBuilds did the stock motor ever burn up with your 36 volt setup? How often was it ran and what do you think the risk is?
How long is the range?
About an hour on flat ground
@@JordyBuilds Wow that’s way more than I expected it to be
The 5ah are awesome I couldn’t imagine the 12ah
@@JordyBuilds yeah I was gonna buy a big 36v but knowing how long that lasts I think I might have to change my mind!
just for completeness:
the stock battery is 24v 7 amp hours
the new battery setup would be 36v (two 18v in series) and 5 amp hour
you should see a small decrease in range from stock, but this is completely determined by the amp hour of the batteries you plug in. Just make sure they are the same, or the smaller battery will do more work and wear itself out
The batteries that was in mine I think were 5ah
Will this work on a mx650
Yes
Is it Just me or does this guy look exactly like the actor in Knocked up that plays Seth Rogans roommate?
hahaha
Do the work with mikiada batteries I definitely butchered the name
If you can wire em to 36v
To much work , just use fast scooter mod and buy a 36v battery and a 750 watt motor.
Though this is a good mod to safe money.
I didn’t think it was that much work. No need to spend money on a fast scooter controller when a mx500 is almost identical. This does save money if you particularly want to use drill batts. I do agree go lithium though. I have two built mx500 48v lithium 2kw.
Screw the controller all together just run a switch between battery and motor easy and fast
That’s how you fry a battery as well as start a lithium fire. I’ll pass but you do you !