Kodak Retina IIIc Analog Film Camera Video Manual, How to Use, Take Photos, Light Meter, & Operation

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  • @jp3576
    @jp3576 Před 4 lety +9

    What’s fascinating is the light meter on my 3c functions perfectly. I can’t say that about other cameras I own from that era. It’s an amazing time piece. Thanks for the video.

  • @bodudas8346
    @bodudas8346 Před 2 lety +4

    thank you - a most excellent presentation of a classic vintage Retina camera.
    explaining 'everything' is exactly what these cameras deserve and what we the viewers desire to see and learn.
    great --- thank --- Bo

  • @andrewhowarth4578
    @andrewhowarth4578 Před 4 lety +8

    IIIc is my favorite of the Retinas I own. With practice, the setting process is much faster than you can demonstrate in this video. It's my favorite street shooter; well done!
    Andy

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 4 lety

      Thank you. Yes, this is definitely a quick camera to use. I think it's the best of the folding Retinas for sure.

  • @carbonejack
    @carbonejack Před 4 lety +2

    I found mine in a storage container of a few old cameras I have. Forgot I even had it. Since I want to go back to shooting some film again It crossed my mind I had an old camera stored away. I pulled it out. It belonged to my father. It's in great shape...looks almost new. I put a roll of film in the other day and I'm off and running. Pretty exciting. So solid. Great build. Can't wait to see the results.

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 4 lety

      Fantastic! I'm optimistic that the results will be great.

  • @Thoar003
    @Thoar003 Před 3 lety +2

    I have the big C model, it was my grandpa's camera and he took thousands of amazing photos with it. I can't wait to get some film and get some use out of it again. Thanks!

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 3 lety

      Nice! These still hold up today. They were great cameras.

  • @MrMarkpoole
    @MrMarkpoole Před 4 lety +9

    The folding Retinas are great.I have a I,II,IIc,and two IIIcs.If I remember right,these cameras have a quirk that many of the German Kodaks have.When the counter gets to zero,the camera locks up until you reset it.It takes some getting used to.

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 4 lety +1

      I recall that on the IIa, not sure if that's the case with this one, but it sounds correct. If I recall correctly, the Retina Club (assuming it still exists) requires that members own 10 Retinas. You're halfway there!

    • @MrMarkpoole
      @MrMarkpoole Před 4 lety +1

      @@DavidHancock That's just my folding Retinas.I also have a Retina Reflex,Retina IIIs and a Retinette.

    • @Aquariuz60
      @Aquariuz60 Před 3 lety

      Hehe, just got my IIIc delivered today and off course started playing with it before reading the manual. After a while it locked up and I got anxious I had broken it. Luckily this video explained the counter rewind and after doing that it was ok again. I really like its mechanical quirkiness and look forward to shoot with it.

  • @Miss.6ixEdits
    @Miss.6ixEdits Před 2 lety +1

    just happened to find a version of this camera stuffed in the used bin section of my local film shop. Incredible light meter set up it so smart. i love older gears and things. thank you for this video!

  • @ForeverForys
    @ForeverForys Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for the info! I just inherited an IIIc (small c) and your video really helped me understand this camera much better. !

  • @BlueRidgeJ79
    @BlueRidgeJ79 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks so much for making this. I just inherited a 3c that was my great-grandfathers...it came with the available accessory lenses too!

  • @NickedOff
    @NickedOff Před rokem

    Thanks for the tutorial! I just inherited my grandma's Retina IIIc and thought it was such a unique camera that I need to figure it out and test some photos!

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před rokem

      Nice! That's going to be a lot of fun to use.

  • @jamesjacocks6221
    @jamesjacocks6221 Před 4 lety +4

    Your review was very thorough and I have to commend this camera to anyone interested in classic film cameras. I have a II and it's nice. It's interesting to note that Selenium meters don't generally fail because a chemical is depleted but because an alien chemical (water) has entered the closed circuit of UV + Selenium and oxidized the Se. Selenium meters, if sealed, are "forever." I have an L28C2 Sekonic that dates from the Fifties and it's perfectly functional and as accurate as it ever was. Like all collector driven products, the Retinas has undergone some serious price justification strategies and chief among them is lens snobbery. No one actually tests these lenses but Schneider is better than Rodenstock (or unlikely, R is better than S). I have heard protestations from owners who claim to have the Holy Grail of lenses but do not even own a tripod! There were some seriously engineered cameras made in the Fifties and when the plastic and consumer cameras crowded the market in the Sixties there were those who spoke of the end of an era. From this perspective it certainly was. Go buy a piece of quality and history and take some photographs!

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you! I did not know that about selenium meters.

  • @crittercamproductions
    @crittercamproductions Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for this terrific video! I purchased a Retina IIIc a couple of years ago, and just love it. I've used it for some street photography, with good results. Your video has helped me more fully understand and appreciate the capabilities of this fine tool.

  • @javiervidaurre6325
    @javiervidaurre6325 Před 11 měsíci

    FYI: C-Lenses (Convertible) for the Retina IIc, IIC, IIIc, & IIIC cameras.
    They all share a common set of three elements at the rear of the lens.
    List of convertible Schneider-Kreuznach Retina lenses:
    Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Curtar-Xenon C 35mm f/4
    Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Curtar-Xenon C 35mm f/5.6 (6+3 elements in 6 groups)
    Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon C 50mm f/2 (3+3 elements in 4 groups)
    Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon C 50mm f/2.8
    Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Longar-Xenon C 80mm f/4 (6+3 elements in 6 groups)
    List of convertible Rodenstock Retina lenses:
    Rodenstock Retina-Heligon C 35mm f/4
    Rodenstock Retina-Heligon C 35mm f/5.6
    Rodenstock Retina-Heligon C 50mm f/2
    Rodenstock Retina-Heligon C 50mm f/2.8
    Rodenstock Retina-Heligon C 80mm f/4

  • @manugeee
    @manugeee Před 2 lety

    The Ev light meter reading confused me in the beginning, but thanks to you, I got enlightened. :-D
    Very well made in depth tutorial for this beauty. 😁👍

  • @ryandanieldobson3270
    @ryandanieldobson3270 Před 5 měsíci

    What a great video Thank you!!

  • @l10industries
    @l10industries Před 4 lety +1

    I just used some lighter fluid on a Q-Tip and that worked well for my stuck shutter. Really easy to access too due to the lens design.

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 4 lety

      Nice! These are pretty easy to maintain in so ways.

    • @lolafischer7777
      @lolafischer7777 Před 4 lety +1

      May I ask how exactly you went with that solution. I am probably left with the same problem, a stuck shutter and do believe it is due to the glued/jammed lens.

    • @l10industries
      @l10industries Před 4 lety +1

      @@lolafischer7777 you just have to remove the front lens element and the. Swab the shutter blades with lighter fluid until the oil is gone. Just be careful not to leave any cotton bits behind.

  • @sofiakikimiranda
    @sofiakikimiranda Před 3 lety +3

    I found your video so helpful! Just acquired my great grandfather's camera who lived in Berlin and I cannot wait to use it. I am wondering though, it seems the black needle that is supposed to move when more or less light hits the lens does not adjust - therefore, I am unsure of where to turn the top dial and furthermore place the red needle. Are there standard or general numbers that I can estimate with when deciding where to place the exposure reading (based on how sunny the day is)? For instance, when it is very sunny out would the honeycomb arrow be placed at lower numbers, and when it is darker out should the honeycomb arrow probably align more with higher numbers like 13 and 12? And one more question, should the ASA always be set at 200? Thanks so much, I hope those questions made sense

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 3 lety

      Thank you! For your meter question, it sounds like the meter has died (not uncommon.) The easiest solution is to get a light meter app for your cell phone or use a hand-held light meter (like an old Sekonic or similar) and then have that figure out the shutter speed and aperture settings to use.

  • @sofiamarin8993
    @sofiamarin8993 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you :)

  • @dagsct
    @dagsct Před rokem

    Thank you for your thorough videos this helped me understand a Reflex 025 I just bought. But, question about setting the light meter value on the lens. Does Aperture wheel ought to be at a specific position to set the exposure value?

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před rokem +1

      Thank you and the aperture setting will depend on lighting, film, and shutter speed. So if we assume a situation where a 100 ISO film needs f/5.6 at 1/125th and that's your last shot and your next roll of film is 400 ISO, it will need either 1/500th and f/5.6 or f/11 and 1/125th in the same lighting. There are some good light meter apps for smartphone. The one I use is just called light meter. I'd say pick one up and use it to figure out your exposure settings when you take photos. That should help ensure the exposures turn out well.

  • @sigur0ros
    @sigur0ros Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for the great video, my 125-250-500 speed unfortunately don't work :((((((( Evertything else looks like working great, even the meter

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 5 měsíci

      Ah, that's a bummer. If you use really slow film, like Adox CMS 20 II or Fantome 8, you can still use this outside.

  • @LeendertCordemans
    @LeendertCordemans Před 3 lety +1

    Nice review. I like that camera. I think the name Retina spellling is German, because Kodak AG which is the German Stuttgart- Wangen Nagel Werk. Not as you speaks Retna. Phonatic spelling of Re-ti-na is: re sounds like ray - ti sounds like me - na sounds like papa or mama. Together sounds raytena -> Retina. I hope it will helps you better.

  • @johnrflinn
    @johnrflinn Před 3 lety +1

    Since yo put in a 24 frame film cassette I would think that the film counter would be set to 24. Please correct me if I am mistaken. Great presentation though.

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 3 lety

      If the counter counts down, you are correct. It's been so long since I sold this camera that I can't recall if the counter counts up or down.

  • @drinkyt398
    @drinkyt398 Před 3 lety +1

    Great fucking video David! I just got one today and your video totally got me in the swing of things. Except the whole fstop dials etc. Can you elaborate how to properly use it? If I select "12" on the bottom how do I know what to set my aperture to?

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 3 lety

      Thank you, Ben! I think I can help a bit. So the first thing to do is to make sure that you have your ISO number set in the ASA dial. ASA and ISO are the same thing. That's key to having a proper exposure reading. Once you have that and match up the red and black needle in the meter you'll have your exposure value (the red numbers on the dial). When you dial that red number into the lens, any shutter and aperture combination that you have available will give you a proper exposure. So for instance, 1/125th at f/5.6 is the same as 1/60th at f/8 or 1/250th at f/4. That's in terms of the amount of light reaching the film.
      To answer your question about the lenses, the Rodenstock and Schendier auxiliary lenses are NOT interchangeable with each other. So if you have the Schneider lens on your camera you need the Schneider auxiliary lens.

  • @davidderuyver6519
    @davidderuyver6519 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice video... but this is not a fixed lens as you can change the lens or at least part of it... Also they were manufactured in Stuttgart..not Berlin If I remember well

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 3 lety

      Thank you! Yes, the front element has a bayonet mount, different by the two lens makers, and the front element groups can be switched for different focal lengths.

  • @1987VCRProductions
    @1987VCRProductions Před 4 lety +2

    That exposure calculator is pretty cool. Do you know if those old fashioned solar powered light meters can be repaired or rejuvinated in any way? I have a Retina IIa that does not have a meter but I know that Kodak made accessory meters that mounted to the accessory shoe (the Kodalux meters).

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 4 lety +1

      To the best of my knowledge, there is no repairing the selenium meters.

    • @andrewhowarth4578
      @andrewhowarth4578 Před 4 lety

      @@DavidHancock - There are some CZcams videos showing how to replace selenium cells on these meters using the modern versions used in solar powered toys. However the majority of selenium meter fails are due to resistance and wiring, so careful repair persons may be able to unsolder and resolder the connections to repair the meter. I've done this on a number of in-camera and hand held meters. Also, the metering stops indicated by numbers are not the only usable ones - there are two in-between stops between each numbered ones, which are set by the detents at the dash markings. So setting a 400 ASA/ISO is one click up from 320 and 200 is one up from the indicated 160.
      Thanks for this very well done video! I have a IIIc with both the auxiliary lenses and the shoe-mounted viewfinder for both.
      Andy

  • @user-ss6zt2mo1l
    @user-ss6zt2mo1l Před 4 lety

    Send your Retina to RetinaRescue for a CLA. I just purchased a IIc. I'm sending mine as soon as this Covid crap is over.

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 4 lety +1

      I was able to fix it, thankfully. But everything I've heard about Retina Rescue is positive, without a doubt.

    • @user-ss6zt2mo1l
      @user-ss6zt2mo1l Před 4 lety

      @@DavidHancock I have worked on many cameras , most of them Medium Format. I have never worked on 35mm stuff. I figured for $113 plus shipping both ways to Australia it's a bargain to have a knowledgeable person restoring the IIc I bought.
      It's arriving in it's original box. I'm pumped.

  • @petusaikonen9885
    @petusaikonen9885 Před 3 měsíci

    Is it not possible to adjust aperture and shutter speed seperately on this camera?

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 3 měsíci

      It's been years since I sold this camera so check my memory on this, but IIRC, the aperture and shutter can be adjusted separately but once dialed in for a specific lighting condition are meant to be adjusted together.

    • @petusaikonen9885
      @petusaikonen9885 Před 3 měsíci

      @@DavidHancock thanks!

  • @stevenlederman3208
    @stevenlederman3208 Před 3 lety

    I believe that you can change lenses by unscrewing the element.

  • @Otokichi786
    @Otokichi786 Před 4 lety +2

    35mm f/4 Schneider Curtar-Xenon or Rodenstock Hologon C
    35mm f/5.6 " " " " "
    80mm f/4 " " " " "

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you!

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 Před 4 lety

      And now, "Kodachrome" on piano: czcams.com/video/ZNWJPrQPlRo/video.html

  • @user-my9of1lp3u
    @user-my9of1lp3u Před rokem

    You set it for 200, but your film said 400 ISO. Wondering if this was a mistake or need to convert for some reason?

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před rokem

      It was just dummy film that I use over and over in videos. The idea was to show how to load it and how to adjust the ISO reminder.

  • @ElizaKnows
    @ElizaKnows Před rokem

    I just realized the ring with the aperture is upside down, all the numbers are on the bottom of the camera, not on the top. Dang it. Edit: I was wrong, I just have a different model of iic? Idk what it’s called.

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před rokem

      No problem. That happens. A lot of these look alike. I often get confused about which model is which, too.

  • @randiraesam3421
    @randiraesam3421 Před 2 lety

    What are some good recommended settings ? I just got one and it’s my first vintage camera

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 2 lety

      Given that it's fully manual, your best bet will be to take the mater readings of the scenes and select a good shutter speed and aperture that work well for your image.

  • @markronay9364
    @markronay9364 Před 3 lety

    I have a iic and there is no ISO setting for the EV calculator like the iiic has. How do I figure out what number to set my camera at for the ISO I am using? I do have the manual with a light table but it only goes up to ASA 100. I believe that ASA and ISO are the same. Anyway, it's a little confusing, especially if I shoot a higher ISO film.

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 3 lety +1

      So yes, ASA and ISO are the same. For figuring that out, the iic was, I think, intended for use with a hand-held light meter. You can, if you're in full sun, use the Sunny 16 rule which is at f/16, your shutter speed should be the number closest to your film speed (for instance, 1/125th for 100 ISO.)

  • @jurim2000
    @jurim2000 Před 3 lety

    I have a 3c aswell. However the two images of the rangefinder never line up perfectly, I can always see 2 seperate images. Is my rangefinder not working properly?

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 3 lety

      Interesting. When the lens is focused do the images move at all? If not then the connection from the lens to the camera is likely damaged or disconnected somewhere, or the mirrors inside the rangefinder (specifically the rangefinder mirror which moves) have become disconnected. Either way that's a repair that's likely best done by a repair professional unless you're comfortable disassembling and tinkering with things like these.
      My best guess is that it has to do with the mirror in the rangefinder mechanism under that scenario.
      If the image does move then the mirror is just out of calibration. I forget how to calibrate it on these cameras but there ought to be a tutorial online for that. most if not all high-end rangefinders had a means to calibrate the rangefinder mirrors as a user.

  • @axelschwei6919
    @axelschwei6919 Před 4 lety

    Hey, I dont know why but I cant use the shutter on my camera. I just cant push it down. Do you know how to fix this?
    Thanks

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 4 lety

      I do not, but there are Kodak Retina forums, Photrio, and the Manual Focus forum all of which may have people who know how to fix that.

  • @chrisregan7347
    @chrisregan7347 Před 4 lety

    Hey David, I have 2 questions about this camera. I typically shoot on ISO 400 or higher but it seems that I have an older model that only goes up to an ASA of 320. Should I just leave it at 320 and hope for the best or is there a way I can compensate for that?
    Also, my model lists the aperture settings on the bottom side of the lens and the numbers are in a fixed position so they don't automatically adjust along with the red light meter readings the way that yours does. Will this have a negative effect on my exposure value or will it just take some extra work to manually adjust both the red light meter readings and the aperture setting? Thanks!

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 4 lety

      For the aperture placement, just to check, are you using a IIIc? But in short, it won't affect anything. Aperture and shutter speed are the same regardless of camera. For the film, you can shoot 400 ISO and pull it 1/3 of a stop. Or not. 1/3 of a stop is well within the forgiveness of 400 ISO color negative and black and white films. If you shoot 800 ISO film then you'll need to pull it slightly more than a stop when you develop.

  • @madeleinecosta5225
    @madeleinecosta5225 Před 4 lety

    heyy, my camera has a problem when i try to shoot the photo, the button doesn´t spin. What should i do to fix it?

  • @MidwestBriar
    @MidwestBriar Před 4 lety

    I inherit an obscure camera and you make a video about it. uncanny. How many freaking cameras do you have?!

    • @MidwestBriar
      @MidwestBriar Před 4 lety

      oh wait. mine is a III S

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 4 lety +1

      Not that many any more. I sell them after I make the videos now. At one point I had around 1,500, but they take up space, I couldn't possible use them all, and I didn't enjoy them or keeping them clean and working. So I'm in the process of getting down to around five or eight that I really, truly love to use.

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 4 lety

      The S is somewhat different but I haven't used one to be able to say what the differences are.

    • @MidwestBriar
      @MidwestBriar Před 4 lety

      Respect for being able to amass such a collection and be able to part with it. I also inherited an argoflex argus over the weekend but the shutter appears to be stuck on that and the retina :( oh well. Thanks for all the content! Overly informative as always.

  • @orf_av8or303
    @orf_av8or303 Před 3 lety

    using that fuji 400 hurts my soul

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před 3 lety

      Yeah, not a house favorite here, either. Great stuff, but a different aesthetic than I like.

  • @superhussein
    @superhussein Před měsícem

    is this bad advice for a newbie?

    • @DavidHancock
      @DavidHancock  Před měsícem

      @@superhussein shouldn't be. This video was written with the new user in mind.