How Does Film ACTUALLY Work? (It's MAGIC) [Photos and Development] - Smarter Every Day 258
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I tried to find a definitive video on the internet that explained how film works. I couldn't find that video.... so I decided to make it. I called Indie Film Lab and they were all about it. I love film photography and would love for you to try it.
They're at www.indiefilmlab.com/
It was super easy, barely an inconvenience
who didn't experience it, doesn't know how much she/he missed
I wish they come back stongly againt. The meaning of "taking a photo" and the "photo" itself should get its value back
@@mabbasi_of hopefully
Even though I was born in the 90s, I always have this strange nostalgic feeling when I look back at film photos...it is as if I am living the moment even though I wasn't there!
Thank you for your amazing work!
So happy this video came together! I learned more than I'd like to admit 🙊
“This is crazy old technology - from like the 90s.” That hurt more than my knees.
'Crazy Old Technology'. I felt that in a part of me that I didn't know existed.
well I was barely born in the 90s so its old to me lol
I am 42 old now, the 90s is my best days
Well, it’s the newest of the crazy old technology… process hadn’t changed much for a long time and the 90’s is probably when they stopped making the equipment so it is the newest old stuff they could find. Old tech but only slightly old machines.
My knees felt that same pain also.
My Dad was a chemist who worked for Kodak from 1935 - 1975 in their photochemical division. If he were alive today, he would be happy that people are keeping this technology going.
Big problem. Kodak isn’t making any new film stocks or cameras. Film is literally dying from low supply.
@@susanroche597
Absolutely NOT true. Where are you even getting your information? Kodak is still making film and have actually stated that due to the increased demand for it, the company has hired HUNDREDS of people to work to make film. Fujifilm paused production due to the pandemic (which has since past), and they’ve even talked about reintroducing the previously discontinued emulsions such as Pro 400H.
@@susanroche597 I guess the film I just bought isn't real lol
@@susanroche597 im still using film for my travels
kodak is THE film producer in 2024, what are you talking about?@@susanroche597
this is why it’s coming back. its not just because it’s trendy and cool or whatever, it’s just that this generation needed to find a thing to ground them, to allow them to stop living in autopilot. film photography makes you feel like what you do actually matters, it’s not a photo out of tens of thousands, it’s one out of 36. so you care more, pay more attention, take your time. we needed this.
As a 21 year old, you hit the nail on the head.
Spot-on! I'm 18 and recently bought an instant film camera and man, only getting 10 photos per pack and with the price of that thing where I live makes me care about every single photo so so much more
"it’s not a photo out of tens of thousands, it’s one out of 36" right in the feels !
I just shot film for the first time in 25 years today. You're 10000% correct in the beginning of the video. I feel like my composition was significantly better than it usually is when I use my digital cameras. I'm absolutely hooked, and plan to learn all the processing steps so i can do everything from developing to printing at my own home.
This company is about to get a lot of well deserved business, I imagine.
Going through the whole film to digital route, there is no way I'm going back to film media, maybe it was something you had to go through to understand. lol the perks of being old i guess.
@@patprop74 weird flex.
That's just it, the development process is hardly a trade-secret, it's very well known and documented, and they aren't really doing anything unique, so they had no reason not to share it, and stood only to gain exposure (pun intended) from participating. (I suspect their prices are a lot higher than your local film place; they have to pay for all those employees and fancy equipment somehow. So only pros will be using them.)
@@user-vn7ce5ig1z they charge more than twice what my local place does
@@user-vn7ce5ig1z Exactly, if they would have taken what was learned since the late 1880s and created a whole new kind of ecologically friendly film roll and developers, now that could be a game-changer, But today we are satisfied with just reinventing the wheel for most of the out of dated products and technologies, everyone keeps saying its the Digital age that killed the film roll industry when in reality it is the cost materials and chemicals. much like batteries are doing for gas.
When folks who love what they do get together, magic happens! Thank you for trusting our crew with your film, Destin. We had so much fun when you spent the day with us and we're so proud to share our passion with the world. The art of film photography is here to stay. LONG LIVE FILM.
“Back in my day, digital photography was more common than film.”
imagine
I was impressed with this crew from the minute he walked in your place! I no longer shoot film, but if I ever decide to again...I know where I am sending it!
My fleXtight says hi ;-) Your lab and crew are amazing ! LONG LIVE FILM !
Why is this comment not pinned? Thanks for giving us all a look into your world. Very interesting.
You guys are inspiring, you care so much about your work.
Thank you for reminding me of my roots, I did photography in high school and I still have all my dark room stuff and 35mm SLR all boxed up in the basement. I think it might be fun to dig it out and develop some new memories: )
this made me bust out my old milnolta x-570 and maxxum 5k
@@toohip I just got a minolta x570 from mY dad
@@kainoa1290 I inherited mine from my dad. Pretty decent film cam
Fell asleep with my phone open, lol. Sorry for the random comments 😂
I'm only 20 but I've been shooting film for most of my life, but only started shooting it as a job and developing it myself at 17. I'm just glad to help push this old format into my generation and am happy to see videos like this introducing it to wider audience of people who may have never came across it.
Can I ask how you were able to turn it in to a job? Sounds awesome.
@@ziinx5899 I'm able to use my medium format film (Most of my client work is digital) to offer some Clients, as a freelance photographer, a higher quality of photo without having to buy a digital medium format camera. Since digital medium format cameras could be in the hundreds of thousands of dollar range, While I got my film a medium format camera for a couple hundred.(medium format film being 120 instead of 35mm)
You’re such a hipster Destin! And I’m here for it. I agree there’s a real magic to capturing images this way. I love how the actual photons from the scene go into making those little silver crystals on the negative.
LMAO he really is.
But we still dont know the 1 way speed of light😭
Hi dirk!
Funny how I love both of your channels.
Sadly I miss Grant Thompson the King of Random. My favorite 3.
Destin, with a set of night vision goggles on: "So what do you use this for"
Hannah: "To see"
Had me cackling
Same energy as
"how do I look?"
"with your eyes"
HAHAHAHA dad joke outta nowhere
@@madmansprinkles How do you feel? With my hands.
How do you get rid of the butterflies in your stomach?
Stop eating caterpillars.
I think he got flustered around Hannah and then went into awkward mode
She was kinda cute
i come back to this video a lot, and as someone whose fallen in love with film and film cameras there’s SO MUCH to get enthralled in, the chemistry of the film, the mechanics of the camera, the creative aspect of taking the photo, there’s so much to love, and every time i take pictures on film, i learn something new every time
^ This guy gets it
I took a black and white film photography class in College. I was able to do the whole process by hand multiple times and it really is something special. I'll never forget that class and would suggest taking one for anyone interested in this kind of stuff. It really is magic.
People have told me to try film cameras on so many occasions and I always brush it off as hipster nonsense. This video convinced me I was wrong. This is such a lovely process
It changes the whole photography experience into something amazing
I was wrong about it at first too by the way
When I carry my film camera on me in public, people tend to lighten up and look curious.
Look, that's the thing about hipster nonsense - there's a tangible reason why people appreciate anything. It gets to people's feels somehow, history, legacy, process, rarity, whatever.
But it's still hipster nonsense! Digital is so convenient and has reached such crazy quality, it's not really practical to do anything else. I used to sometimes do film as well, have done in the past, long after i got into digital 23 years ago, didn't actually enjoy much, probably won't do again, can't be arsed.
But it's also not helpful to put an arbitrary border between yourself and other people. You're being a literal hipster if you say "oh those are hipsters, i don't like what they like, because i'm not a hipster".
But they go on about physical v digital, but they never print the photos. Ultimately they are digitized and emailed.
I have about 5-6 full rolls of film that need to be developed - sitting for a long time! Maybe Ill send them here. They all seem like they enjoy their jobs.
Sadly film has a shelf life.
@@KalRandom yes it does but the self life relates more to unexposed film.
You must do it! It will be like finding cash from some old Jeans
We have many, many undeveloped film rolls here.
@Eric P. can confirm. I've used 40 year old expired Tri-X before. Bit more difficult to use and not the most amazing outcome, but it worked out pretty well
I just want to say thanks to Destin for inspiring me to take the old camera my grandfather-in-law left us and put it to good use. I've since shot and developed over 10 rolls of film and I've been having an absolute blast doing it!
It's interesting to learn photography for the first time on a camera that's older than I am!
I thought I was cool having a car that was 7 years older than I am, but what's really cool is driving it somewhere to take pictures on a camera that is 21 years older than I am!
In my years of photography, i’ve never had anyone explain film as well as you did! Keep up the great work man!
"you have night vision goggles?!?!" "yeah!" "do you use them?" brilliant commentary
I get similar with my Flir. "You have a thermal camera?" "Yep." "You actually use it for something?" "I do have a use case..."
😂😂😂😂
Yeah
"So what do you use them for?"
"So what would you use this for?" 😆
21:00
Ok…. The fact that The “grain” concept is LITERELLY grains ofsilver totally blew my mind
Same.
The granularity of film (especially B&W) is not only a function of the film sensitivity, but it becomes an essential artistic tool. Digital, even with PhotoShop added grain, just does not have the same feel. Watch a well made, B&W movie like "The Seventh Seal". The film was chosen to create an atmosphere in the movie.
@@samslades
Silver screens aren't called that because of the film, rather the screen surface containing silver or aluminum to increase reflectivity.
The analogue magic is in the film grain!
Kind of like "dialing" a number on the phone. Old phones had a rotary DIAL that rotated when you put your finger in a hole representing a number and turned the dial.
Now you push a button (several actually) to "dial" a phone number.
Let's not go in to "hanging up" the phone just yet. :)
Thank you so much for this perfectly done video.
Also, scanning and digitizing or printing the scan is one thing, but there is also, directly exposing the image from the film directly on photographic paper, in the dark room. That's also a beautiful process, where you can choose how dark or bright you want your print to be. It's beautiful, but as an option, when you want a direct print for yourself or a gift.
Just got my first 35mm film camera as a gift and sent in my first roll to be developed. I've already started getting that special feeling you talk about every time I snap a picture. Thank you for such an in depth and passionate review of this awesome form of art. Can't wait to see how my first roll turns out!
One of the greatest things Destin does, aside from delivering knowledge, is showing how to ask good questions about a subject that is unknown or mostly. He's teaching how to self-learn...how to be smarter every day.
I had film cameras but after using digital cameras I wouldn't want to go back they're a whole lot cheaper you can see what you're getting right there and I can do without that magic. With a computer there is a lot of magic that film can not.
@@davidcalvert238 ok
3:41
"what would you use these for?"
"To see"
Absolutely loved that laughed out loud
I have no idea how to say this other than seeing how passionate you are made me cry. I had been watching several of your videos but it wasn't until the moment you opened that email with your photos, the waterworks started running. It just kindof hit me suddenly. You're endlessly curious and from what I've seen it's insatiable. Really though, everything you do is absolutely amazing. You and everyone you work with light up my day. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for everything.
Loved this! I usually develop with my university, which uses the more traditional tanks, but my secondary lab for when the university is closed uses dip and dunk. Great to see how that works because there’s less information. I do the scans myself - the university also has a lab for that - and it is truly incredible. I never cared much about hobbyist photography until I got into film.
The passion in them for their work is truly something to admire.
Many of the resurgent film shooters are millennials. If you go onto Instagram and search on film, you'll see. I started photography in the 70's and converted to digital in 2004. But 3 years ago I went back to film; it adds a whole different level of creativity to shooting.
"Why Do you use that?"
"To be able to see" XD OMG That killed me.
Lol yeah
💀💀🤣🤣
Stupid everyday.
Time stamp?
@@bennybooboobear3940 21:02
I just bought an old Nikonos V waterproof film camera a couple weeks ago and I've been so excited to sue it but also incredibly anxious as I had no idea what the film process entailed. You've truly answered every question I could've ever thought to ask and I'm even more excited now to see what warm, cozy, nostalgic images I can produce. Thank you so much!
I recently picked up my first 35mm camera (Pentax P30t) and film and I loved using it! getting my first roll sent away this weekend so we'll have to see! I cant tell you how much I enjoyed this video and I can guarantee I'll be shooting a lot more!
Aw man, you shoud've gone in to the process of making a photographic print! It makes the concept of a negative image make so much sense! It's a physical case of two negatives combining to make a positive!
We see that experiment in Jack Black's movie Be kind rewind.
Absolutely! I feel like he really missed this part, because the scan process is just a digital photo with extra steps
Absolutely. That's where the magical moment is.
can it be in a long enough video and be second part of this vid?
I don't see why that can't be its own whole video
"Why is it a batman signal?"
"Why wouldn't it be"
Destin left the chat 😂
The moment you realize you are not the greatest nerd in the room :)
Im so glad we got someone as smart as you to interview these people, you always ask the questions that other youtubers leave me wondering about
I used to work for a professional photo lab-this is really taking me back!! Except, the film processor we had was much bigger and dragged the film along an unbroken track that went up and down into the various chemical baths.
"Why is it a Batman symbol?". "Why wouldn't it be?".
Best answer!!
Why would it be?
I'm quite good with stereotypes, but couldn't be able to figure out he must have batman tattoo lol
For a split second I was hoping he would reply "I'm Batman!". ☹️
Right! Amazing
I thought he said " I wanted it be"
On Saturday, I browsed a local camera shop and Destin uploaded this on Sunday.
Monday, today, Destin walked in while I was purchasing my first film camera - at the same shop.
It was a pleasure to meet you, Destin!
Hope you get some good shots man!
That's awesome to have a local camera shop. The closest one to me is almost 2 hours away in Savannah, Ga. When we visit my wife's mother in Florida, I always make it a point to buy from a little camera shop in New Port Richey, Fl. They are one of the few remaining camera stores in the state. I'm not planning on a trip to Alabama anytime soon, but what is the name of the camera shop?
What a bizarre coincidence haha, I love it!
Hi, I'm Destin. Welcome to your future.
wow :o :D
I watched this when it first came out and knew the moment I shot on my first film I’d be sending it to Indie. Earlier this month, that moment finally happened and truly truly-it was one of the most beautiful experiences I’ve had in a while. There truly is something so tangible and special to film. It preserved the moments in time like no other photo I’ve ever taken. And to know the process and the care put into developing my images, it genuinely made the whole thing all the more exciting. They have made a life long customer out of me. As long as Indie Film Lab is around, I will be sending my rolls to them! Long Live Film indeed!
Thank you Rachel!! Let us know if we can help in any way !
Having worked as a vet tech for a few years, we do radiography - they do teach you how to develop the films manually and you learn about automatic processing.....I had wondered if camera films were made and developed in the same way. I would like to say THANK YOU Destin for these films. Not only have you explained how things work, you have answered so many questions that I never had the chance to ask!
I love how Destin wants to know every detail, down to the trashcan location lol
Haha. Like a kid.
trashcan location?
oh ya he talks about the positioning of the trash can in the dark room, that's right, yes Destin is awesome
Well its important for this in particular. I used to work at Walgreens all the film reels and film printing papers had to be handled in the dark I had to do alot of practice before I was able to do any of that trash can included lol
He is like a tech thief
About night vision gogles
Destin: So what you use it for?
Hanna: To be able to see
Destin: *slowly fades away
That's on him, he set the bar too low
This part was great 😂
Absolutely love this! Any chance we can get a video seeing the other side with physical printing as well? My mom tells me stories about hours in the lab just to get a single print!
You should check out the technology connections video on just that. The problem is that almost nobody prints film using photosensitive paper anymore. The process is so labor intensive that it's cost prohibitive. When you have a proper high res scanner, the scans are higher res than the film grain, and then you can just print using a computer to achieve the same results. I was super bummed when I realized my photo lab's contact sheets weren't actually made by laying the negatives on photo paper and exposing the paper to light, but I realized how much more effort that would be, and how little a difference it would make.
I've been spending WAY too much time watching your videos since I found this channel... thank you. Photography has been a hobby of mine since I was a kid in the early 80's so I watched the WHOLE digital revolution and totally agree with your assessment about the difference between digital and film photography. I think you totally nailed it when you theorized that it is the randomness in the grains. This video made me think that I would love to see a similar video on how records are pressed since in some circles records are coming back as well.
As a film shooter and a long time fan of this channel, I can’t tell you how much I appreciate this video. Thank you!!
Same ❤❤❤
This video just make regret selling my only old camera for 100$ ... Now it was selling at 1000$..
@@isDatBoi ripppp. what was it
where do you buy your film? I have an 'inherited' film camera just need film
@@CellBlok69wLamp I can still get film at my local Walmart. If you want a wide range of film choices, B and H photo has a large selection. I buy film from them that I can't get locally.
"Why is it a Batman symbol?"
"Why wouldn't it be?"
It's the bat cave
His confusion from that question is so adorable hahaha
Time stamp?
This is real passion for film development
I think the different feeling of film also has to do with the fact that there is no aliasing effect that you have in CCD/CMOS image sensors due to the regular alignment in an array. A digital image is discretized, an analog image is continuous. Also, chromatic aberration is probably less of an issue in film. I think these effects combined make a subtle difference to all edges and fine detail.
i have heard that CCD sensors are actually sending analog signals, which are later converted into digital
Yh all sensors produce an analog signal which is converted to digital. By taking a reading of the signal at regular intervals storing those numbers digitally.
Analog can mean a lot of different things - the signals out of a pixel on a sensor are analog. But you still have discretization in spacing. Tbqh you also have this on film - the grains in the emulsion. They’re more irregular, though, which can look nicer
"really cool old machine they kept running from the 90's"
Really cool old machine... From the 90's.
Really...old machine... from the 90's
From the 90's
*Checks birthday*
*Cries*
I guess we all become old machines if we are lucky. The 90s isn't 10 years ago anymore!
Why he needs to hurt us like this!?
I recently discovered that the host here was a student of my cousin (a rocket scientist professor). A student. I'm old.
I know, right? That kinda stung.
Yup, that one hit me pretty hard.
"It's a really old machine - from the 90s!"
Feelings of old age, rising...
Someone told me recently, and this will sting if you were a kid in the 1990s: Talking to kids today about the 1990s is like talking to a 90's kid about the 1960's.
as if i wasnt having an quarter life crisis already
Right I had already been married and divorced before that machine was built.
Imagine how old most film cameras must feel when made since the 70's and 80's.
@@idontwanttopickone man, when you put it like that, it stings indeed. Very humbling and quite the wakeup call! Thanks and best wishes :)
I found this channel recently and all the opening statements about how warm and nostalgic film photos are reminds me of how my classmates would discuss tube-based audio tools vs newer semiconductor ones
A great video. Very funny and very well done. For many, many years I worked in a microfilm service bureau and we used to develop many 16mm film rolls, basically using similar equipment with the same process. You reminded me of all that awesome technology.
I loved hearing Indie people so enthusiastically talk about their work. In photography using film, everything had to be in your head before taking the photo. Congratulations to you and the Indie Lab.
I know what’s different:
Film: I’ve finally got this roll developed with some graduation pics, a few of me on my birthday, and some of me riding my bike for the first time.
Digital: Who wants to see 156 photos of my lunch?!
May the universe have mercy on all who deny these words. Also, lol totally agree.
I see a lot of exactly reverse. 99% videos about shooting film on youtube are done from a variation of script "I got hold of this ultra rare unique film, that's only X rolls remain in the world. Watch me take pictures of dirt, clear sky and some more dirt with it. I won't even try to to make a composition, why bother! This film is so amazing you are not gonna believe how amazing this film is, I don't even need to think, this trash on the driveway will look so rad!!!"
5 nice pics hidden in a sea of 2000 memes.
Person: That lunch was delicious, why wouldn't I want to memorialize it with 156 photos?
Person2: Wasn't that the last meal you shared with your grandmother? Did you take any pictures with her?
Person: ..........
Exactly right
I'd really would love to know how Destin gets people to be so open and relaxed around him.
By being open and relaxed around them. Cherry on top: a smile.
It's something a person cannot learn... Ever. It's a gift. His popularity on CZcams is a testament to that.
it is his faith in God.
His curiosity- he asks genuine questions and is genuinely excited to learn. High empathy, and a high level of understanding, with a willingness to be the one that doesn't know.
He carries peace with him.
Much love for Indie Film Lab! Thanks for showing us their inner workings!
I just bought a Canon AE-1 with 3 lens and all it's accessories for $1 at a thrift store yesterday and this video pops up in my feed. I'm so excited to start taking pictures!
"A... old machine that they've kept running from the 90's."
Why do you gotta do me dirty like that?
To be fair, the way Industry has progressed in the last century, something from the 90's is extremely old in machine years. Some get phased out every couple of years.
Seriously I'm a machine from 1989...
Hilarious, in the 90s I used to run a did and dunk machine from the 40s, not far from Indie
@@davidcampbell1760 What is a did and dunk machine? Is that another way of saying dunk tank?
@@uncleslam9022 It's a machine that lifts the film up and down through tanks, "
dipping and dunking" it. The caveat over a leader card or roller transport processor was that the film never touched any surfaces and it was much safer from scratching. The lab I worked at used a Hostert for C41 and a smaller machine for E6, we reeled b&w and tank processed it.
Me: "Why don't they use night vision goggles?"
Thomas: "We also have night vision goggles."
Me: "Ooh! I wonder if they're PVS-14 or..."
Thomas: "They're from Toys-R-Us."
Me: "...oh..."
Yes can someone tell people digital night vision isn’t actual (practical) night vision?
To be fair though, you'd have to turn on the it on the pvs14 to see in that room, so you wouldn't get much improvement over some cheap green 1 or 2 night vision
Precisely what I thought 😂😂😂
@@igorbarbarossa the IR?
@@mikeykincaid8270 well, if you get a low mpx count large sensor camera and a fast lens…
What an amazing video. I started shooting film (of course) in 1965 and never new any of the science around the film and how the images are created on the film. The IndieLab process was a great intro to film processing and digitalization. Thank you!
Just started film photography a few days ago. You’re right, there’s a certain magic about it. I’m already in love with my film camera. I can’t wait to start this journey
When the guy started his tour with a cheap magic trick I knew it was going to be a good video.
Hahahahaha
I lol "what are these used for?"
"we use them to see"
🤣
In 2006 I took a color photography class in college. Not only did we have to take photographs, we had to develop them in a darkroom. I absolutely loved the whole process. I took a lot of very nice photos of the landscape on the South Dakota prairies. There was plenty of opportunity in the rural areas where pioneer cabins lay deteriorating in the elements. There was plenty of wildlife to photograph along with lots of really old farm equipment and tractors. It was a great way to spend time actually learning the craft of composition as each shot cost a lot more than a digital shot.
SmarterEveryDay is awesome. Destin's enthusiasm and understanding and willing demeanor really helps for a enjoyable experience when watching. Very humble.. The world needs more people like him. Love ya man. And thank you.
The way destin makes the people feel appreciated by hes reactions is so wholesome.
I think there's an understated value to expressing appreciation in the moment.
This guy is 70% information, 70% great attitude and energy.
Don’t ask me about the math, that’s just how he is
The timing of this video is really fantastic. I'm just starting on a project that uses film and just bought my first film camera. It's a nikon n8008, and I got some iso50 film for it since I need the tiniest grains possible. I didn't actually know that lower iso directly meant smaller grains. I mean maybe I did subconsciously because the low ISO stuff all had the smallest grain listing but it didn't click until you showed some different iso film side by side. If I could find 35mm film that was even finer grain I'd get it, but gotta start somewhere. I was planning on developing the film myself but I think as a control I may end up sending some to these folks to see if it makes a difference. I'm trying to replicate a spy technology from the cold war and I think you'll love it if it works. I already knew how grain and development works but seeing their setup was fascinating. That machine is amazing.
I could hook you up with some Fujicolor ITN, this stuff is about 6 iso and the resolution is incredible. I do my own film development in ECN2 Color, mix my own chemistry from powder. I could help you out for a fraction of the price of the lab.
My instagram is @w.t.burton if you want to contact me
@@w.t.5136 You beat me to it. I was going to say I found some iso 6 film on B&H the other day.
@@TheSH1N1GAM1 Dupe film is common, Most film resellers like FPP or other guys spool it onto 35mm cans and then sell it for $15 which is crazy!
Lowest I've ever seen is ISO 0.8 from FilmPhotographyProject. Zero point eight, or 1/8th the sensitivity (and *possibly* grain size but don't quote me) of ISO 6. Still available too.
I totally read this in your video voice
what a great little love letter to film photography. I've been shooting film for almost 20 yrs now and still love it. This perfectly explanes why I love it so much. Great video.
5 months after it's worldwide release, this episode finally came up on the local networks and I was able to record it on my VCR to watch on my CRT tv. Magic!
Destin, the quality of your videos is blowing my mind lately! You have taught me so much. You've just earned yourself another patron!
Thank you so much Claudia! I’m super grateful for the support. I’ll keep working to try to earn it!
This video made my day
I'm remembering that I used to remember this stuff.
Developed film in the bathroom.
I am so in love with this episode, you work is always amazing but I think this one is fabulous as it really triggered a lot of memories.
Can't wait to send some film out to these folks. Thanks for sharing their story and process. I had a local film shop i loved but have moved and been looking to find a new "film home."
He waited so long to tell him they have night vision goggles lol
He - What these is used fir
She - to be able to see😂
17:59 It's subtle but devastating that entire craft can be lost when businesses die. People don't quite realize the amount of uncaptured knowledge within the world of business and industry.
Jim Halpert: "If I left, what would I do with all this useless information in my head? You know? Tonnage price of manila folders?"
We can put so much into a craft. But once it's not important.... Then it's like, "now what do I do with all this useless information." That hurts, but it only hurts because we care or see some beauty in that craft. It wouldn't hurt at all to someone else who didn't care or didn't see the beauty. It's weird.
This, specifically, is why our government’s handling of the recent COVID crisis and the continued efforts to devastate certain parts of our economy are so dangerous. They are purposefully exterminating great centers of knowledge that could be lost forever.
If you watch old black and white movies you really get a sense of the knowledge that has been lost. People were so much more mannered and well spoken back then. There was just something different. Film is an example but there are many things we are losing forever as our elders pass.
Great video!! I spent so much time in a darkroom when I was in the printing industry and high school photography class! Brings back good memories.
I have an old Nikon FM2 that my uncle gave me years ago, after this video I can't wait to go back to analog shooting again. Thank you!
"A really old machine that they kept running from the nineties."
Wait a minute... I grew up in the nineties! That makes *me* really old too. 😭
Yea I had to pause the video and take a moment after that as well.
I heard that too!
Yeah but... machines get older faster than humans do. Like, a cup of coffee is considered "really old" after two hours. Feel any better?
@Ken Shackleton I am 50 years old. Hearing people say that something from the 90’s is really old makes me search for a graveyard
I know! I actually used to work on machines like these in my 20s. Thanks for making me feel old. Lol
Sarah is like: I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Pepega
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman All these memories lost, like tears in rain.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion?
Thank you for this video. I had my own lab in my parents garage. I made it from 2x4s and cardboard. While only b&w it was still magical. I was the high school photographer for yearbook.
I also had an Estes Camroc which used ASA 400 Disks that I pushed to 1200 in processing. I got aerial photos of my neighborhood. My first sights from above. First of many as I ended up being a Southwest Airlines pilot for 32 years. Thanks for reminding me of these memories. As you talked about how special seeing Images for the first time are, it brought tears to my eyes. One more thing about the latent image. I found an old Kodak Brownie camera at my Grandmother's house. It had film in it. So I had it developed. There was an image of my Grandfather who had been dead for over 7 years.
When I was little I remember my grandfather carrying around his Minolta HiMatic 7s and taking pictures of us kids everywhere. He bought it while he was in the air force during the 60s. Now that he has passed it’s one of the only physical things I have of his. Recently the other day I pulled it out of my storage box and started looking at it differently. I went online, bought some film, and today I learned the “Sunny 16” rule and went outside to capture photos. I haven’t developed them yet but I can’t wait to see how they turned out!!
I run a photo lab in Massachusetts(one of the few left), I can definitely say there has been a HUGE uptick in people bringing in not only 35mm film to develop, but also 120 film. As a photographer, I really miss film. Something about film that you can not duplicate with digital.
I think it's because an image on film is an actual physical thing (silver particles) and not just a digital recording of light levels at a given moment. The tangible object just seems more satisfying.
@@williamgreen5575 Well put.
And for me there's just this warmth (not tone but emotion) and candidness of film. Even if the shot doesn't turn out quite the way you wanted, there's still something very personal about it that I just love.
Cine Lab?
@@KyleMiko No. SLR 35mm and 120/220 film developing.
“Old machine…”, here I am imagining some ancient French contraption from the 19th century, “from the 90s.” Oof, I feel old.
That was me, too. "The nineties? That's not ol ... oh. That was 30 years ago already." xD
In my experience, when it comes to some of these machines being old, "It's not the years, it's the mileage."
@@will9357 - Goes for my aching body too!
This was so cool! One of my most favorite jobs was working in a photo lab. I moved from color to hand development and printing of black and white.
This Hana melted my heart :'(
Mine too😉
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, he seemed a bit enamored with her...understandably so.
Yeah I bet that's not all she melted. It doesn't make sense but whatever.
Mine too, .🤩
I never get sick of you nerding out and breaking down a mechinisim of some kind to understand it fully!
@smartereveryday proves to us that the nerds were the cool ones all along.
Man I miss my old film camera. Learned to shoot with film. That shutter click and crank film advance just felt so good. The way the lever slows down and smooths out when you advance the film you could feel the film tugging back with tension when being pulled. The way the button feels when you press it down half way, and the haptic click and clocky sound when you press all the way. Such a great feeling. The clunky pop when you can feel the shutter pushing the pocket of air out of the way it was just magic.
^^^ YES ^^^ THIS ^^^
Absolutely the best documentary about film photography I've seen. I shared it with my daughter hoping she'll come to appreciate the living history of photography.
She currently uses a digital camera and has no connection to the origins of photography.
Thank you for making this documentary. I love it.
0:36 “…you stop, you know you have 36 rounds, you take the shot - pull the trigger…” This is the difference between a sharp shooter and a machine gun operator… in a tactical environment.
Trigger discipline with a camera. What a concept.
same thought for me
Its y im more accurate with my single shot 410 that my auto 12ga. Its y life is more precious cuz i know theres no heaven... U have 1 shot
@@fredred8371 There has to be a name for this, where having more of something makes you more prone to fail because you have a crutch. When you have one shot and one shot only, you succeed out of knowing that if you don't you can never try again
@@fureversalty If everyone was immortal, we would be doing careless things and not take our futures seriously. This "permadeath" reality makes us more careful with our lives. Therefore it is only appropriate that we call this the YOLO effect.
I didn't even know I wanted to learn about this today, but I'm so excited to finish this video!
yes
Thanks for the video Destin, this was a great insight into film photography. I've been doing it about 5 months, and I love the work you have to put into it. Also like the James 1:17 quote :)
I’ve been shooting most of my life, but after a short sting on digital, I went back to film in 2009 and kept at it since then. That last film vs digital baseball picture pretty much sums up why. Sure, I could probably achieve a somewhat similar look after spending some time tweaking a raw file, but with film, I instantly get the look I want. Also, as you say in the start of this, film lets me focus more. With digital, I can shoot 1000 pictures, but somehow not feel that it matters, cause I can always take 1000 more, at no cost.
“Once you get used to the darkness, everything else starts taking over”
It sounds like a batman quote
@@1995TheDude Or a Contrapoints quote
@@1995TheDude Oh, so _that's_ why it's a Batman symbol.
Great explanitory video! I come from an era where my Grandfather, an avid photographer, taught me how to shoot, process and print before I was 10. First I learned how tp contact print, then use the enlarger. I was hooked. A major portion of my work life involved photography, so his teaching was really formative for me. When I was in college, I ran a motion picture film lab for WLW-T.
I almost want to get into film photography and support these awesome people for keeping this whole thing alive… I hope they continue this forever..
And thanks man for making this video so interesting.. I didn’t think I’ll watch this to the end when I started but this has been awesome!
My 2 cents, if you do, get an SLR. There is a craze for point & shoots because "they are so portable" - but part of the fun of film is going out with the intention of taking photos, not just snapping pics when the spirit takes you, that's what you still have your phone for! And seeing what the image looks like on the focusing screen, pressing the shutter, and seeing the image go dark for a moment as the light is redirected to the film... that's what it's all about. Auto or manual exposure, auto or manual focus, whatever. That's your choice. But point & shoots take the joy out of it.
I'm not a fan of rangefinders either, but there are some cool vintage ones, and if you want to shoot medium format film, you probably don't want to invest in an SLR unless you make money off it.
Destin: "So uh, what do you shoot with?"
Rod: "with film?"
Destin: *Sweating *"Yes sir"
LOL 😂
Got my ak right heeere
I took a photography class in highschool and we did all of our own developing and everything, so I get what you mean about that psychology behind it and how special and unique it feels. Even more powerful was when we made pinhole cameras. Manually controlling the aperture and a long setup and teardown time elevate that sense of required precision and preciousness.
Thanks for sharing all this cool information and reviving that passion
I'm an old person. Early in my life I didn't wear glasses. Then after lots of computer work I had to wear glasses. Then after retiring and moving to a rural area I quit wearing glasses...and my far vision recovered...and my near vision held...for a while. But now my eyes are telling me I need glasses to see near...the opposite of the correction I used before. I just refuse to go back to glasses (with corrective lens). For short periods (like when reading a menu) I can see fine. But over time (e.g. 15 minutes) my eyes can no longer adjust to near vision. Solution? I have glasses with rows of tiny perforations...i.e. pin hole cameras. They take the strain off my eyes...everything near and far is in focus.
I had a photography class in high school we had our own dark room and developed our own film. I'm now into digital photography to this day. Aka high quality camera. Phones are easier 🙄😔
Thank you so much for this great qualitative video! It really helped me understand what's going on after I send my film roll to the lab. Also the way you made the video and the energy you show makes it very engaging and fun to watch!
@SmarterEveryDay Great video! Definitely agree that the film process from shooting to scanning and post processing is what makes it all so enjoyable.
"It's dry air too, right?" Between that and the question about what the night vision goggles are used for, Destin is really on fire.
He seemed . . . distracted.
Some dryers use separate methods of drying, such as a ventless dryer. So it was a completely valid question. As for the night vision goggles, they originally said they learn the feel of the room and go based off sound, smell, etc. So when they pulled out the goggles, maybe there was a specific use-case for them that he wanted to know, since they said before they didn’t really go based off their eyesight in the dark room. There was nothing wrong with the questions at all. They were perfectly reasonable and help understanding of the situation. :)
He's got some real interview skills.
@@DropTheMag It's much easier to find a dropped roll of film using vision. Sound & smell play a part, but mostly experience builds a map of the room in your brain so you touch something, recognize what it is and know its position so it is X steps in X direction to go where you want to be.
That Batman sign seems so fitting, as you have to “see” by hearing. Just like a bat.
I worked in a photo lab in the mid 80's with a Pako C-41 "Dip & Dunk" system.
It is hard to find people that can handle that job!!!! I was VERY good at it though, loved the job!!!! :)
You can not get fingerprints on the film, and you have to KNOW your sounds, to listen for a roll hitting
the wrong tank sometimes!!!!!! 3 out of 4 go into the correct tank, but once in awhile, that 4th one
stays behind, or goes ahead, maybe even two rolls! You MUST react FAST!!!!!!
I think why we like those photos as much is probably because new cameras make photos that look real, sometimes too real. And with those film photos they still look like photos and keep their magic.
I think film looks more real than digital.
What would you use these night vision glasses for?
"To be able to see."
BEST LINE OF THE YEAR!
🤣🤣🤣
LoL, for sure, she nailed that perfectly!!