Shooting Ranges in the U.S. Versus the Philippines
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- During our trip to the Philippines, we trained with rising star shooter Bro Tecson, who is one of the best shooters in the Philippines.
During our training session, we were wondering why the country produces a lot of great shooters. Bro shared a number of different benefits to training at shooting ranges in the Philippines versus many other countries.
Not only do Filipinos train and practice a lot, but they can also train very efficiently because of their shooting ranges and the government's support.
Special thanks to Bro for creating this video with us! Make sure to give him a follow. He's most active on IG: @brotecson
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Let's not gloss over the fact that firearms ownership and the shooting sports is a rich man's game in the Philippines. Your 200-300 round ammo count for a single practice session state side is a steep bill for most of the locals. Also if you're a balikbayan doing some shooting during your vacation please remember to tip your range assistants well. They're doing all the heavy lifting after all.
Lmao in my country its hard to get a gun only the rich can afford it ammo lmao u can only get 50rds a day and u are required to get a license for ammunition which another headached lol 😂
In the Philippines, the work ethic is waaay different than here in the US.
Thank you for sharing !
Keep up the great work !
Yup! No job is too small for them/us. It is a good way to supply jobs that wouldn't ordinarily be available.
What a big compliment to the Filipino gun culture especially in competitive world of shooting. Thank you Miles and Tactical Hyve! Hopefully to see more champions coming from PI in the future like the legend and personal idol and fellow Cebuano JJ Racaza!
I was stationed in the Philippines in the late 80s and was amazed at how extensive the gun culture is there. Having just come from Korea I was amazed at how firearms were comparatively everywhere. The main handguns you saw being carried in those days were 1911s and some form of four inch .38 revolvers since 9mm wasn't a huge thing yet. Beautiful country and beautiful people....
One range I've been to in Cebu, Philippines had a reloading machine on site. So in addition to having staff tape targets and load mags, there were literally guys picking up your brass and reloading it while you shot. The range was by the ocean as well with a clubhouse overlooking the water so it was practically a country club experience!
If you don't have an ear protection. You can used empty brass for earplugs 😬
As a Filipino-American, this is just another reason for me to go back and visit the homeland.
Same
@@BruceWayne-ii1mx can you tell me why it’s Philippines with a PH but Filipino with the F for people who originate from there?
@@mayfieldca "Philippines" is an "americanized" version. "Filipino" is spanish. The Philippines was formerly known as Las Islas Filipinas
@@mayfieldca country is named after king Philip of spain hence Philippines. Filipino is a westernized naming convention, the dialects originally didn't have letters F & V in the alphabet hence the way Filipinos pronounce things. Pilipino is the official spoken language created a ways back by the government to have a standardized dialect. It is mainly Tagalog based because it has the most commonality amongst the dialects. Pilipino is also the correct spelling and pronunciation in reference to the people.
@@cbertulfo Philip or Filipe in Spanish/Castillian
Their are good shooters in PH but that's because when they train, they had the available resources for it. Bro Tecson be shooting from 9 to 3 but the ammo prolly costed him a 6-month salary of an average minimum worker.
What an incredibly interesting video! I’m always fascinated by the shooting culture in other countries. Thank you!
Granted, I don’t shoot for multiple hours on end. And my training sessions are usually not more than 200 bullets.
But personally I like the mentality that you load what you shoot. And people who shoot help with building and tearing down, as well as resetting stages. Always cool to see the absolute world class shooters go around and patching targets. Keeps shooters grounded imo.
GOOD JOB TH! AS A PERMANENT RESIDENT CARD HOLDER IN SOUTH BROOKLYN, I AM ALWAYS EXCITED TO RE-VISIT THE CITY OF MANILA ONCE EVERY 3 YEARS!, A 1911 45 ACP ROCK ISLAND OWNER TOO!
Great information. Thanks!
Wow, much respect and appreciation
Humm! I never would have thought!! Keep'em coming
Another positive practice is having a caddy a-la golf. When you’re competing you can employ a caddy to help you pick up brass and load up mags, even carry stuff and all. Money talks here but it has its pleasures.
Legal wise, it’s the same thing, money-talks. Lots of possibilities as long as you are able to get them.
My wife is Filipina and would love to move to the Philippines but they don't allow foreigners to own any firearms and that is a deal breaker
Try for dual citizenship
She can own them and you can use them, that's okay by law....if u trust her enough :P
@@cbertulfo Dual-citizenship is only allowed for Filipinos by birth. No Philippine blood in your veins, no Dual-citizenship.
@@marcross52-95 A foreigner could apply to become a Filipino Citizen.
You forgot to mention that shooting sport is not an option for the average Filipinos. Also, legal gun ownership in the Phils is very restrictive…
My wife and I went to an indoor Armscor range in Manila. It was the first time shooting for my wife (she did great) and I found the the range boss very knowledgeable and professional.
Also helps that USD to Ph Peso is at $1 = $52 pesos
Thanks Mile, train hard, safe travels
As a Filipino-American shooter based out of SoCal, thanks for this video Myles!!
With ammunition (even if you reload) prices that serious dedication.
Boy I wish someone would do the reload of magazine, paste or set up targets.
Soooo I am getting my plane tickets now!! Super cool!
That's sweet! Talk about a dream job!!!
Training on that hot and humid, crappy weather will help them too. Breathing is key
🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭 ive been following your channel. From philippines with love
Heck ya!
Salamat Po Miles! 🇵🇭
Wow !! 😎
There are private “by invitation only” ranges that I’ve been to where we do all the grunt work, which in my opinion is part of the fun, safety and maintenance training/practice.
We have a rather healthy gun culture here in the PH-though we do get the occasional gunfight (few and far between) between private citizens. I think it’s because we have one of the longest, still ongoing civil wars in the world (govt/military vs. communists and govt/military vs. islamic separatists).
Gun prices and ammo are ridiculously expensive in the Philippines, pretty much 2-3 times as much as what someone would pay for an AR or a Glock in the US or Canada (where I am from) also, civilians are not allowed any rifles that shoot 5.56 or 7.62. Other than that, beers are cheap so for that, I am down.
Wow very interesting. At least the government approves
Wow!
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Glad to see Philippines has more respect in shooting sports than high diving…
Thanks for this. So how much of gun support do the Philippines give to their citizens? Is there a lot of red tape to own or carry concealed? Appreciate the channel.
Proud to be 🇵🇭❤️🙏🫡
Is tactical firearms training available to civilians/the public in the Philippines? Can you carry concealed? Suppressors? How does the shooting world there compare to the United States?
Yes to all..albeit strict because regulations exist (eye roll). While we don’t have the Second Amendment the United States have, our government recognizes the use of firearms in self defense (unlike some countries that do not), and we have a pro-gun lobby that helped construct our present gun laws. Some government officials in the Philippines are avid marksmen and markswomen. Firearms in the Philippines are acquired for either self-defense or sports and recreation, and while we have regulations that are strict on paper, are very much easy to acquire. We have senators who are pro-gun, and most civilians have shot one at some point in their lives..so I can say the firearm culture in the PH is pretty much similar to the US to some degree.
It's available but not all the time unless you in the uniformed/armed forces agencies. And if you want a mentor you better have yourself good cash. Also, it'sa rich man's hobby here.
@@Dretelejr so if I visit the Philippines can I bring my gun from the U.S.?
@@isidrosevier1125 Good question.
@@isidrosevier1125 If you are coming to the Philippines for a shooting competition, then it will be a breeze for you since the host will be doing most of the dirty works for the processing of temporary permits. Bringing in Guns for personal use, especially for foreigners, that is a different matter and is highly discouraged.
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when I was growing up in the Philippines we hardly have firing ranges. instead we just drive to our farm about an hour from the city. Start shooting all day. nobody complains my Dad was the DA and my Uncles were both officers of the Police and the Military. Even now here in the USA we just drive to the boondocks. there plenty of public forest where we live.
If I had the money to shoot from 9pm-3pm or more, I'll be there too. But ammo is kinda pricey
What were the "rules" or "policies" flying overseas with firearms and ammo? I have been meaning to do some research on this but havent gotten the chance to. But since you guys are over there (or were over there if you're back home already), im assuming that you guys had to find out or inquire about these information, and id like to know. That way, the next time i go there to visit family and friends, maybe, just maybe, i could possibly bring mine.
Edit: feel free to email me the answer if you guys prefer that. Just let me know here if thats the preferred way and i will email you guys about this. Thanks
Wow, it's like golf over here lol. 40 bays?!
Pinoy power!!
Not all firing range in the Philippines are like that.. in other range u pick up your own brass and setup your own target. You do your own obstacle
Some Philippine Facts:
Filipinos love guns.
Home of Armscor/RIA
Home of Metro Arms
How much does ammo cost there?
What is the average cost for the range?
And you forgot to mention, gunsmiths here are really good and not so expensive...
Do the Philippines have a strong 2A or equivalent? I didn't think they would be super firearm friendly
Yes they do. It is just pricey to purchase one with too many fees and taxes. And i don’t know or hear anyone complaining about gun rights not like here in the US like they are on a crusade against 2A. Maybe because the Philippines dont have mass public shootings. The only time someone will shoot somebody is for very personal reason. I remembered when I was 14 when vacationing in the southern islands my grandpa would tell me to carry his revolver whenever we go to town and at night would keep the revolver under my pillow just in case. He said sometimes communist or muslim rebels comes down from their camp at night and knocks on villages for food or supplies and the next military detachment is miles away, so we are on our own.
No, it's hard to get guns in the Philippines, legally. You have to get a bunch of permits and clearances, and you have to get a permit to own, to travel, for each gun.
You have to go through a psych check, background, be 21,get training both shooting and safety. That's just to have in a business, or home and they can be hard to get for most.
We don’t have 2A, but our government recognizes the use of firearms in self defense. Firearms are easy to acquire (permits and registration aside), and gun laws are lenient unlike our SE Asian neighbors. Most civilians have shot one at some point in their lives, and some do own and carry. Some government officials sponsor and shoot competitions whenever they have the time.
Nope. It’s only available to people with money, and or connections.
Is it easier to purchase a handgun in the Philippines these days? Around 15 years ago, I met someone who could only own a Remington 870 pump for self defense.
As long as you have a License To Own and Possess Firearms (LTOPF), buying legal firearms is just a breeze now.
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Where my Hapas at? 🇵🇭
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Are gun ranges open to the public in the Philippines? I know they have strict gun laws and civilians are not allowed to conceal carry with very few exceptions. We will be traveling there next year and would like to give these places a try if allowed.
Almost all of the ranges are open to the public and conceal carry here means that your firearm should be in a pouch. If you visit Metro Manila there are a few ranges that are nice, Makati Square has 2 ranges there you can try. There's also Stronghand shooting range in Quezon City.
There's a lot of public shooting ranges in the Philippines, indoor and outdoor.
Huge support from the government coz the president itself is a competition shooter too..
very expensive for some of us in the philippines to go to a shooting range. rent for facility, gun, and per bullet. we do this once in a blue moon unless its free haha
Hmmm, didn't realize shooting is so popular in the Phillippines. Maybe I should think about it as a retirement destination.
don't forget to tip a few $ to the workers
Presently 1 USD = 56+ Php
Most common factory ammo available is the Armscor FMJ = around 50 cents US
Reloads= around 30 to 35 cents US
Range fees: around 10 to 20 USD
Range fees including target boards and eye and ear protection, FA rental and around 50 rounds ammo = 50 USD
San Mig Pale pilsen = 1 usd
Red horse = 1 usd
Adobo, sisig, lumpiang shangha = priceless😂
damn.
faulting man kahit hindi nahawakan ang barier. . pinasok ang kamay sa bintana.
Well, only the upper class can afford to be in the shooting sports in PHI, here is US, you can participate in the shooting sport even if you're middle class.
There are many middle-lower and middle-middle class shooters in the Philippines that are licensed gun owners.
Expensive sports, unless you’re in the military or rich in the Philippines.
All you said was true , but on the other hand only rich kids are the only one who can afford the sport.
Only the rich Philippines can afford workers and stuff
Shooting ranges have staff in place to work on them, so shooters can concentrate on the shooting. I have been to several open-field ranges and all of them have workers in place to do what Miles have said.
Nope. A earn 300 dollars a month and I own 2 1911s. Problem is training, ammo costs half a dollar in cities and almost 2 dollars in provinces.
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So all shooters are rich people then I guess because most people surely can't afford paying those workers or buying all that ammo.
Not really. Most of the ranges, especially around or near Metro Manila have standby workers or caddies. Usual pay is around 10-20 dollars or depending on the generosity of the patron. These guys are well versed in assisting shooters. Some of them are even brought by their patrons in out of town shooting competitions around the Philippines. The best caddies were even brought to International Matches in Southeast Asia.
"Hold my sam miguel, sus mary osep!!!"
Pew pew
The Phillipines is not the great sanctuary for 2a supporters. Yes they have nice ranges but it is primarily the wealthy that get to enjoy it. It doesn't take much of a Google search to see just how things work their. Much like Mexico. Only the Government, Cartels, and Elites can enjoy these opportunities especially having people stay and load, setup range targets. That is not the common practice their for average citizens. In addition the U.S. has great ranges as well, just not available to the public. So if the Philippines is supporting professional shooters then they are basically state sponsored. I apologize if this comes off as American elitism. I used to think we were the gold standard in the world but seeing how corrupt our government has become I am really starting to believe the media has just shielded us from all the crime our leaders have been committing over the years. I love my country and would lay down my life for it but the current state of it is shaking me to the core. The abuse of power, seems to be the norm here in the U.S. as well. We all deserve better leaders so vote like your life and your children's life depends on it. Vote Republican and do your research, we also have rhinos in our party.
Thailand has cool ranges too.
Shooters pay out of their own pocket for almost everything even if they represent the govt.
thats what you call if you have the financial means you can do anything, catered ......lol
Hehe nice. US needs Teslabots.
Please please preserve your Second Amendment
Yeah... I think I would be distracted by the wage-slave labor. Maybe I'm a just a baby.
"huge supporters of shooting" sound scary bro 🤣🤣
正直、フィリピン人は撃ち過ぎる。
ターゲットを、あと3ヤード離したら、何発撃つことになるかわからない。
I’ve been advocating for welfare participates to have to give 3 hrs a day to a tax payer , then I wouldn’t have to pick up my own brass , load my own mags or change targets and many others
Interesting, the only filipinos I know are Trump and 2A haters that live here in the states, except for one or two of them out of about a dozen individuals. This is encouraging!
I'm from San Diego and its the opposite here. Most Filipinos are Trump supporters and love the 2a
The Pinoys around me are pro 2a and for the most part, like trump.
Lol, Im a Fil-Am in Florida, Exact opposite around here, I dont think i know many Filipinos who dont have firearms too 😹 Filipinos generally adapt very well to their surroundings in any country they live in, so if every person they know in their area is a leftist then they probably will be one too. 👀 if they are born in the US then bets are off and their blood has no bearing on their political views. 🤭
There are a lot of Filipinos who are support 2A and Trump. They are mostly quiet and keep low profile.
2A haters? Those are FilipinX or Fake Filipinos lol Majority of "real" Filipinos don't have problems with having guns.
Because we got so many paltik guns that we own.. then later on Filipinos are getting licenses whenever they can afford it