Progress Singapore Party's Tan Cheng Bock on how he thinks the PAP has changed
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- In a press conference held on Friday (Jul 26), Progress Singapore Party's Tan Cheng Bock, an ex-People's Action Party (PAP) MP, explained why he thinks the PAP has changed.
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Well said TCB. PAP has gone down the drain post LKY.
Dr Tan ,
It is so well say , especially Oxely Road issue ! It should be not be brought out in Parliament debate ..
Norman Tong then sweep it under the rug and invite speculation?
The famous words of D.Trump," I know, you know and we all know" So what is the next best thing to do. Vote for change at GE so that wrongs can be rectified.Simple as that. No second thoughts this time.Do not let fear cloud your good judgment at the polling station.Voting is your right
State media is state media. Don't tell them too much.
PAP is not concerned with issues that are important to the commoner. They are concerned solely with the GDP. And use tgst to justify all their decisions.
@@fungeese could it be they already know with confidence they will win? *Wink* I mean they are so confident due to the 53years? Of course the election process is foolproof
"Some PAPers" are very "funny", they want high rankings, they want the power, they want the money, BUT, they don't want to hold any responsibility if they make mistakes, they don't want criticism, not even online criticism, they want "easy job".
When i was young, some of my colleagues have a chance to get promoted to higer ranks, but eventually, they rejected the offer. I asked them:"Promote good mah, salary is higher, can command people also". They replied:"You don't understand. Once get promoted, you have alot of things to do, your responsibility will be heavier, you will work longer hours, your interaction with your boss will be more frequent, meaning higher chance to get screwed by him".
Now, at my age, i can understand what they meant.....But like what i have said, some of our PAPers are very funny, they want the high rankings, the power, the money, but not the responsibility.....Haha.
Great ! Hope Dr Tan and his team and party will give Singaporeans some hope who dont have a voice and thousands are living and struggling now...
Couldn't agree with you more. Most of us are still struggling to make ends meet with the high cost of living
Work hard, get salary and spend within your means. That’s all. Stable Government lay you a stable foundation. You decide how you going to live your life with all the opportunities available set up by the government. There is poor in Singapore but how poor are you when you have a brick house, a tv, a phone and food to eat everyday. Point out please if there are any family that lives under a bridge.
You know any of these peoples sitting on his left and right?..Who are they?
peterlhs18 struggle your mother lah,sporean are living comfortably, go overseas and take a look lah 井底蛙
sim chin seng, yeah Sporeans are struggling.
When any ruling party anyway starts speaking and it makes little to no sense, that's when they've lost their way.
Pap has lost touch with the people
And the poor
Auntiesuncles working ....come on they should be rewarded for playing a part ln Nation building....the pioneers & merdeka ...Tcb understands ..god bless him & his team....l hope his party wins.
You have lost touch with reality. You want Singapore to be welfare society then who pays for it. People must understand somebody must pay Who don’t know how to give to the poor. Where to get the money. The very same people who ask for the poor to be given more money grumble when there is an increase in tax. Where do we get the money. We don’t have oil or natural resources. Running a Govt is not easy if you have brilliant ideas to contribute in helping the Govt on how to get money for the poor that will be great. Opposition don’t have a magic bullet. Be realistic and sensible.
PAP’s core mission changed when it shouldn’t have and yet did not change their mindsets and when they should’ve.
After all, it is not a rumour when many people say that PAP will split into two namely The Old PAP and the New PAP(PSP). Don't you agree PSP sounds like PAP. All the best, Doc.
Simply so mad at PAP now! CECA is wrong decision!
Why is that so? CECA is a free trade agreement with India since Aug 2005.
Honestly, i doubt you can garner more votes than your last Election. I also expect PAP drop back to 60%, or even below 60.
The problem is the people's brainwashed minds. They worry too much and cannot imagine . They are too timid like ostriches. But the side effect of voting for status quo is they will get more of the same and a more and more costly Singapore with wage stagnation and little people power to hold govt accountable , force for transparency or independence.
Contrary, if they vote against the PAP for certain wards or grc , having more opposition will certain force pap to work harder and serve the People better like on issues like cpf , gst and healthcare and jobs.
To make PAP GREA again, vote for Alternative at least for this GE!
Hi hope
lol with this kind of opposition want my vote?
@@kailim8895 well this was the PAP Chairman for Jurong Town Council who got 88.7% of the vote.
Selvaraniponnudurai wants to register at which centre
Well said!! But ...in the end, most Singaporeans are just too afraid for a change in governance!! We should give oppositions a chance to prove themselves. Afterall, if the elected parties failed, we can change back to PAP for the next GE.
Our lives will not be in chaos if oppositions takeover. As if now our lives are smooth going under PAP. There are still homeless people that I see around and they are not foreigners.
I m dumbfounded at what Tan Cheng Bok said about the change in PAP. Is it that serious that he must betray his former party
He is betraying his former party. Without PAP, he is nothing. He can betray his own party; he can betray Singaporean
Singapore has to be fair to all races for Presidential elections. Malays and Indians are minority, we have to give them equal chance, since chinese is the majority population.
Don't forget the Singapore pledge "...pledge ourselves as one united people,
regardless of race, language or religion,
to build a democratic society...." .
We had two Indian Presidents Mr Devan Nair and Mr S.R. Nathan, but ever since our first President Mr Yusof Ishak ended his term in 1970, till 2017 there was no President from the Malay community.
Mr Tan may feel that since he came in second in the 2011 Presidential election, he would have a chance to win the 2017 election, and the Parliament has deprived him of a chance. There were applications by other candidates in the 2017 Presidential election, but Mr Tan did not apply.
My point of view, he was ex-PAP member, and based on past political records his ideas won't be out of the box, mostly will be PAP style of thinking. We shall await to see if he wins and what changes he is going to make.
So his whole political party is based on salt.
Judging from the PSP's manifesto along with some of the candidates for the upcoming election, it portrays an objective party worthy of the people's votes. Their approach is non-provocative and practical, which is what Singapore really needs at this point where transparency and accountability is lacking along with policy implementations and actions affecting a large majority of citizens based on assumptions from an "ignorant level".
PAP ruling is still very necessary for the sustainability and growth of the country, but it's about time to bring real matters / issues that truly resonate with Singaporeans who are on the ground to the Parliament.
一個外劳假文件就：可申請S pass 一個月政府一個勞工一千元入袋。那些說什麼技能勞工一個人一個月五至六百入袋。政府有錢賺。我們新加坡🇸🇬人好聽说本土的新加坡🇸🇬人。但是沒有交过路費給政府、就沒有了工作也是說生活更加困難了、所以我們一定要支持反對黨入国会
一定支持陳清木先生、給現任的敗到海底摩針、
Talk is cheap. if you want to raise an issue, it’s only right that we have clarity about what exactly it is... if it is something that you personally don’t think is right, it doesn’t mean it is wrong...
so Support And Vote For All Singapore Opposition Politics Parties and VFC Vote For Change, Oppositions in Unity also #VOTEOUTJUNTAPAPIGS
When I hear what the opposition says, the more I am convinced I should not vote for them. Totally lacking in substance and without the capability to make SG better.
rk1546
Singapore is a very stressful country
No government can please everyone but if u see what’s happening in other countries then u should feel so lucky.
Oh comparing with the worst? Mind you theybare paid world HIGHEST. You understand English?
Cosmo John don’t be sore of their pay, most importantly they are still making their Singapore very proud. All i see is where and how many countries are like Singapore, the envy of many in the world.
But we need more opposition MPs. Look at other countries. Almost all of them have at least a 30% opposition representation. There is no such thing as 'democracy' when you have the ruling party take up 83 out of 89 seats. I think they should take 60 out of 89 seats instead so the chamber will become less lopsided and we can finally say we have a first world Parliament.
So you keep comparing with countries worse off? Until when? Until SG become similarly bad?
Your thinking is trying to find excuses for them. Why not you tell Joseph schooling, his recent failures is OK because he has won Olympics before? The right way is to tell JS to improve and not say it's OK to fail or get worse and worse
Russell Koh End of the day it’s the people’s wise choice.
Can I have the address please.
2001 he scored so high wow!!! 💪💪🇸🇬
As a whole, I don't think the PAP government did too badly in governing the country. But the cost of living is rising, esp medical cost which is a fact, this contentious issue could potentially bring the PAP down, if not addressed properly. Medical subsidies should not be restricted to just the poor and elderly. The middle class Singaporeans should also be taken care. Medical costs had risen so high that even with government subsidies, it seems like no subsidies at all. And this is just talking about government hospitals, not to even talk about private hospitals, which is beyond the average singaporeans. This is a direct result of the government making Singapore the medical hub, so much so that it attracts all the elite rich south east Asians people to come over for health care, making private health care out of reach for ordinary singaporeans.
Agree
"Mathew from CNA". HAHAHAHA.
PSP should be careful. Do not say too much. Do not treat your competitor gentlemanly. There is no need to. Or are you expecting a reciprocal behavior? Be sneaky and secretive for now.
The election date has not been announced and it could be as far as a year from now. So play this game safely and with super caution. They could be using this delay to plan how to respond to your allegations . So far TCB has rebutted HSK with conviction and that guy has not responded with respect to the Erosion of the three pillars.
Do you viewers agree that HSK did not understand that "lack of transparency" is not "NO Transparency"?
I quote the Straits Times :
www.straitstimes.com/politics/dpm-heng-rebuts-tan-cheng-bock-pap-takes-governance-very-seriously
HSK said :
"He said that there's no transparency but at the same time he attacked the fact that the issue of Oxley Road was raised in Parliament," he added. "Now that is transparency, the fact that (the) Prime Minister was prepared to have this issue debated in Parliament, clarified in Parliament, is a very important aspect of our governance."
But TCB did not say there is NO Transparency. He said there is a LACK of Transparency.
Quote the straits times :
Dr Tan, a former PAP MP of 27 years turned opposition politician had, among other things, charged there was a lack of transparency, accountability and independence in the appointment of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's wife Ho Ching as chief executive of Temasek, and in the use of Parliament to debate the issue of the fate of first Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew's house at 38 Oxley Road.
End quote.
In case some of you still do not see the problem with what HSK said, let me illustrate what is the meaning of No vs Lack Of.
NO : No Balls means no balls. Not some balls but No balls. " NO" is Absolute . Here it means Not a ball is present.
Lack of Balls : this does not mean there is NOT one ball existing. It means there is at least one ball but the desired number of balls is not existing.
So should TCB sue? IBs you wanna respond?
No govt can please all the people all the time. PAP has done well enough . I'm proud of my country. I support the govt. I'm grateful too.
This guy is a civil servant or holding high pay corporate Executive (HPCE),he say PAP has done well.if he is not a civil servant or HPCE he will talk another way. We taxi drivers or Grab car drivers need to drive 7 days a week to earn $2000 a mth (10 hrfriving).no cpf,no sat and Sunday..no holiday,no medical.One top of these the companies are cutting out incentive and push down the fare until we cry.Where can this happen $5 or $6 per trip(crazy).you know how much is it to buy or rent a car.on top we need to pay the fuel,road tax, car maintenance cost,ERP,surmons, if you are sick you can't drive.,where got fair. fail gov
CPF policy rule for HDB Flat
Purchase of HDB flat , citizen get into stressed as they can not use CPF both account ( ordinary/special account) to paid up the lump sum of the flat .
The citizen stressed up as to take up HDB loan or bank loan due to CPF policy rule is not perfect .
General CPF policy rule citizen should allowed to use their hard earn CPF fund for both account ( ordinary / special account ) to purchase thier flat as a citizen. Due to flat is in high cost .
Thank you
Cannot combine both accounts cos special account is for retirement. However there are HDB grants that can try to apply.
I'm surprised he couldn't catch the question and he summarized everything as "you want me to highlight when the PAP change".
How can he handle foreign media etc.
And, he didn't answer the question. All he did was grumble what he THOUGHT was wrong with the parliament but not answer the question about changes in the PAP.
Man, he old or what?
Seems like the opposite of "progressive" or "progress".
He kinda got the gist of it though, he said they changed when they changed the rules regarding the presidency. the rest was less consequential. I personally do think that the changes to the constitution and the presidency is a very serious issue. In the past, we knew that the president was on the PAP's side, but after what they pulled off, the president is the PAP. Anyone else wonder why they go to such an extent to influence the presidency?
Tcb is not suitable tho he might mean well. Look at Chiam, also meant well but not suitable, shld retire and enjoy their old age.
Tbh I think the government still ok. But govt need to take care of ppl of the middle class too especially those with kids in terms of medical and tackle with the raise in costs. On the brightside, we're still performing better in general as compared to our neighbour countries.
Do you agree that the current Singapore Parliament is very lopsided when compared to orher Parliaments in other countries?
emilytheclumsygirl sorry I don’t agree , no need to take care middle class, take care of less previlage in S’pore
You're idiots
They didn't do that. They are trying to build everything back to normal.
But it won't be a stright thing
Do you guys know why i hate goh chok tong so much or not?? For lky, he made mistakes was because he was blinded by his "fatherly love", he thought his son was capable and "up to the standard" to be a country leader.
For lhl, he was a silver-spooned kid, who was ignorance and "over-estimated" his capability.
But for goh chok tong, he "wasn't a silver-spooned kid", and he "climbed up his ranks through the years", at least "technically", it "appeared to be so".
And he had seen how lky screwed up for over-estimated his son, as well as through years of interacting with lhl, know that he sucks!!! So, our dear mr goh is neither blinded by "fatherly love", or blinded by "ignorance".
Plus, there is a "bad example" for him to see, for him to take precaution and be cautious not to make the "same mistake" as lky.
BUT In The End, he makes the "Exact Same Mistake" as lky!!!
Sincerely, i really hope that goh chok tong's son and daughter are not as lousy as their father.
Don’t call yourself opposition party. There is nothing to oppose, the system is good. We just need more voices to make it better and limit FT stealing our jobs. If you opposed the system, you will lose as the whole nation esp, the value of flats, jobs etc. are tied to it.
Which is why u nid opposition. Hw can we have voices within them whereby they all nod and say yes.. irony.
I confirm will vote you as president
Spot on Doc...only an Idiot will bring personal differences between family to Vindicate himself and cry croc tears in the process...wonder if he was wearing croc shoes while vindicating himself
Pink socks & shoes
Fight on Mr Lee Hsien Loong..I had faith in you.Without the PAP..we weren't be where we are standing now.Best healthcare best educational system and best Airport .Long Live the PAP
Yeah air his dirty linen in parliament...
All of them...hang damn high
Competition is secure a life for human:
Is Insurance, Protection, Progress, Improvement,
Human can and much be create Competition
Only Animal and Authoritarian bullying cannot
竞争是人类生命的保障, 是保险,保护,进步,改进
人类可以和一定要创造竞争只有动物和独裁专制不能
V gek sim tone .... feel tcb
Everybody change, look at you TCB you got change. You want just revenge that is not the way, please change.
There is nothing personal.A change is for the betterment of the Nation and not just for TCB, himself.He could retire peacefully at his old age but volunteered to serve the country when things have gone overboard.Do not be biased and paint a negative perception.
Those "idiots" thought that i want to be "Internet Celebrity", i want to "Show Off Myself", i want to be "Popular", i......Nevermind, let them "micro guess" or "micro analyze" me, i want to see whether they can attain enlightenment and live forever or not.:)
You guys know what i feel disappointed about this lhl or not?......After what he had been through all these years, at the age of 68 years old, he still retains his silver-spooned kid mentality and character!!!.....Sigh......
But then again, gct is even worst, his oldest and closest friend also come out and oppose him and his party, and yet, gct still think nothing is wrong with himself!!!And his party!!!......LOSERS!!!
By the way, i don't need "some losers" to come in here and "sarcastically praise" that my English standard is good.(I don't even bother to look up for his name).
Doesn't he/she (whether be they locals or foreigners) realize that once they enter this Singapore website and read the comments page, there is an English called "Singlish"??
Besides, English standard is good, but "brain retarded" is also no use......Those PAPers have shown us the "Examples".
Moreover, my English standard isn't poor until "hard to swallow". If someone points out which grammar or spelling mistakes i have made, i will appreciate it. But if they try to be sarcastic because of some minor mistakes that i make, sorry, i have no time and energy to "entertain" them.
這次的大選一定要支持陳清木或是工人党。支持現任的政黨．新加坡🇸🇬人生活更加困難了、工作沒有。消費税提高。大选要到的時候就耒作小動作情民。不必要吧、人民心里很了解。大選過後人民的生活就更加嚴重。受到多次的騙。人民也聪明了。明白支持反對黨
Just retire lah
PAP is the best.i love PAP
Guys....VOTE FOR PAP...
Even if Ho Ching adds those "perks and benefits" that other country leaders enjoy, i think those perks and benefits also won't sum up to the amount that Mr Lee $2.2 million annual pay.
If have a choice, i think those country leaders would rather receive the $2.2 million annual salary, than to receive those perks or benefits. But then again, if those leaders receive that "shocking amount of salary", it will mean that they are Openly Cor......
This old man should just retire and enjoy his old age instead of being rebellious. Old politicians tends to bring up the same old issues nothing new. It’s like an old clock someone need to rewind and then they start to bla bla bla....
he is like a energised rabbit... hoping that he can copy mahathir n bring down pap n b prime minister ...lol... already dead man walking
tongkat bebe man u are very right. He was former MP but i think he wasn’t good enough as the PAP only keep the best. Mahathir at this old age is still slogging, this TCB must be out of his mind. Pathetic.
i support tcb👍👍
@@xxmatthewgamerxxx8447 why ?
He is 79 years young,not old. Dr. Mahathir was 94 years old when he led a coalition to oust the BN party that ruled for 61 years non stop.The country needs an experienced and responsible leader like TCB to change the political landscape of Singapore for better governance.
Too old
Hypebeast Grandpa.
OMG is this it Mr. Tan? And you think these 2 issues have caused you to turn your back on the party that groomed you. Please retire with grace.
Very unconvincing....in doubt of supporting him...
Abdul Rashid Rahim abang I agree w u
Next pm ho ching better lol