NET/PBS History Update

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • Since they like the NET/PBS logos, I decided to update the NET/PBS History. Includes rare versions. All Credit and Video Courtesy of PTVhistoryproject, Joe B, NETNetwork, JohnnyL80, mcydodge919, MegaMoneyMan99, among others. I do not own anything. Enjoy!

Komentáře • 234

  • @TheVintageTVArchive
    @TheVintageTVArchive Před 6 lety +10

    The 1989 ID is my favorite. It reminds me of my childhood so much, seeing it after “Sesame Street,” “Mister Rogers,” “Reading Rainbow,” among others. There’s just something about it that brings nostalgia.

  • @wwetnabamafan194
    @wwetnabamafan194 Před 6 lety +13

    I always was a bit scared of the 70's PBS sign after Sesame Street, Mr. Rogers, and The ORIGINAL Electric Company, but that was what I remember watching PBS as a kid

    • @amvianna1
      @amvianna1 Před 3 lety +1

      I Am Not Scared Of That

  • @rockvilleraven
    @rockvilleraven Před 6 lety +5

    3:52 the voice over was done by local Washington, DC area announcer Paul Anthony, who also once hosted a Saturday Night Jazz show on Classical WGMS.

  • @daminmancejin
    @daminmancejin Před 9 lety +8

    I love these old logo makes me feel so damn happy and peaceful ^_^

  • @GOOSEYGOOSE9
    @GOOSEYGOOSE9 Před 2 lety +2

    MacDonald Carey Really The PBS Announcer.

  • @conelraid
    @conelraid Před 10 lety +13

    R.I.P. Net

    • @andreasantos7544
      @andreasantos7544 Před 5 lety +4

      R. I. P. Net 1950 -1970

    • @Hi-ix5bb
      @Hi-ix5bb Před 4 lety

      @@andreasantos7544 1952 - 1972 (1970 for tv broadcasting)

  • @SeaStarTea
    @SeaStarTea Před 9 lety +25

    Old logos always creep me out--especially when I watch them in the dark. ^_^

  • @Mr1991kid
    @Mr1991kid Před 10 lety +2

    This is the best quality on CZcams of PBS history. Thanks so much :)

  • @WestleyWolf
    @WestleyWolf Před 9 lety +9

    Fun Fact the PBS 1998 and 2004 logos would show your local PBS Station's call letters and local affiliate name rather than a generic logo. for example it would say....Your watching PBS KVIE 6 Sacramento Stockton Modesto as the generic logo gets plastered over.

  • @CM-se1qe
    @CM-se1qe Před 8 lety +1

    0:14 The jingle from the NET flame logo was sampled for most of Luke Vibert's song "Porn Shirtwee."
    The more you know!

  • @doctorjones300
    @doctorjones300 Před 10 lety +6

    3:50 Wow, I remember this perfectly. I know that's from 1989, but I remember it from 1994-1995. The other ones I remember are 4:22 - 5:06. That's it.

  • @vitaliygorbatyuk5608
    @vitaliygorbatyuk5608 Před 8 lety +6

    Order:
    00:00 1. NET "Carpet" (1962)
    00:06 2. NET "Carpet" (1962) (Alt. Version)
    00:14 3. NET "Fire" (1966)
    00:29 4. NET "House" (1968) (Black and White) (Opening)
    00:43 5. NET "House" (1968) (Black and White) (Closing) (Version 1)
    00:55 6. NET "House" (1968) (Black and White) (Closing) (Version 2)
    01:06 7. NET "House" (1968) (Color) (Opening)
    01:19 8. NET "House" (1968) (Color) (Closing)
    01:32 9. NET (National Educational Television) (1968) (Still Version)
    02:03 10. NET "House" (1969) (Opening)
    02:18 11. NET "House" (1969) (Closing) (Version 1)
    02:32 12. NET "House" (1969) (Closing) (Version 2)
    02:45 13. PBS (Public Broadcasting Service) (1970)
    02:54 14. PBS (Public Broadcasting Service) "Three P-Heads" (1971) (Version 1)
    03:07 15. PBS (Public Broadcasting Service) "Three P-Heads" (1971) (Version 2)
    03:18 16. PBS Split ID "P-Head" (1984) (Version 1)
    03:27 17. PBS Split ID "P-Head" (1984) (Version 2)
    03:33 18. PBS Split ID "P-Head" (And On) (1984)
    03:44 19. PBS Split ID "3D P-Head" (1984)
    03:49 20. PBS "3D Glass" (1989) (Version 1)
    03:55 21. PBS "3D Glass" (1989) (Version 2)
    04:00 22. PBS "Glass Ellipse" (1993) (with No Voiceover)
    04:06 23. PBS "Glass Ellipse" (1993) (with Voiceover)
    04:11 24. PBS "CGI Window" (1996)
    04:16 25. PBS "CGI Window" (1996) (You're watching PBS)
    04:22 26. PBS "Peoples" (1998) (Version 1)
    04:27 27. PBS "Peoples" (1998) (Version 2)
    04:32 28. PBS "Peoples" (1998) (Version 3)
    04:37 29. PBS "Peoples" (1998) (Version 4)
    04:42 30. PBS "Peoples" (1998) (Version 5)
    04:47 31. PBS "Peoples" (1998) (Version 6)
    04:52 32. PBS "Peoples" (1998) (Version 7)
    04:57 33. PBS "Peoples" (1998) (Version 8)
    05:02 34. PBS "Peoples" (1998) (Version 9)
    05:07 35. Be more PBS (2002) (Version 1)
    05:12 36. Be more PBS (2002) (Version 2)
    05:16 37. Be more PBS (2002) (Version 3)
    05:22 38. Be more PBS (2002) (Version 4)
    05:27 39. Be more PBS (2002) (Version 5)
    05:32 40. Be more PBS (2002) (with Different Music)
    05:37 41. Be more PBS (2002) (Widescreen)
    05:43 42. Be more PBS (2009) (Version 1)
    05:49 43. Be more PBS (2009) (Version 2)
    05:55 44. Be more PBS (2009) (Version 3)
    06:02 45. Be more PBS (2009) (Version 4)
    06:08 46. Be more PBS (2009) (Version 5)
    06:14 47. Be more PBS (2009) (Version 6)

  • @paullarue2010
    @paullarue2010 Před 4 lety +3

    I remember "Mister Rogers Neighborhood" and "Sesame Street" was on PBS.

  • @NostalgiCrazy
    @NostalgiCrazy Před 9 lety +27

    3:18 reminds me of a '90s computer sound?

  • @jtomally9681
    @jtomally9681 Před 11 lety +3

    You forgot one. There was one that showed studio lights and stuff in the background and as they faded they looked like the P-head. I remember that logo. It was extremely rare.

  • @pbsman8108
    @pbsman8108 Před 9 lety +15

    1:35 scared me

    • @1e1ise1
      @1e1ise1 Před 8 lety +1

      Yes, the silence and the font.

    • @SmithJrBlaquaLuigi
      @SmithJrBlaquaLuigi Před 8 lety +2

      1:35 I heard the NET logo of the music last note very carefully at the beginning of the silence and the font. :)

    • @louisiana173
      @louisiana173 Před 6 lety +1

      Me too. Even I said “WHAT THE HELL

  • @HikariConchitaRosex
    @HikariConchitaRosex Před 11 lety +1

    It's found at the end of an episode of Black Journal back in 1968. This was shown right after the NET house logo, but it was in colour.

  • @mackenziewachter2508
    @mackenziewachter2508 Před 6 lety +2

    Bring back the PBS nostalgia shows I love! Please?

  • @TolbertWangila
    @TolbertWangila Před 8 lety +8

    4:00 ahhh ahhhh ahhh ahhh ahh.. (1993)

  • @saraflint2982
    @saraflint2982 Před 3 lety

    There is another [rare] 1996-1998 windowsill logo. It plays 3 piano notes as a male announcer says, "This is PBS." It could be heard on some episodes of Julia Child's programs.

  • @lisort72
    @lisort72 Před měsícem

    I miss the old pbs logos

  • @sunshade_man789
    @sunshade_man789 Před 3 lety +1

    So, in a nutshell, the NET in the beginning has boards which are based on a reversed Romanian flag.

  • @lisacoston8175
    @lisacoston8175 Před 3 lety +1

    The logos were kinda eerie back in the days😨😨😨😨😨😰😰😓😰

  • @NephtaliValdez
    @NephtaliValdez Před 11 lety +1

    I remember a few of them, lol, its the only think I watched until I was like 7

  • @johnmiller1376
    @johnmiller1376 Před 3 lety

    "This is net the national educational television network circa october-1966 now that's television for you".

  • @saarlxender
    @saarlxender Před 10 lety +7

    3:39 LOL

  • @daminmancejin
    @daminmancejin Před 9 lety +4

    I miss pbs so much

  • @AndrejusDovidaitis
    @AndrejusDovidaitis Před 7 lety +2

    Now look at this net
    That I just found
    When I say go
    Be ready to throw
    And go!

  • @jamijentzsch7154
    @jamijentzsch7154 Před 9 lety +5

    This is net
    National educational television network

  • @taydrabrookshire347
    @taydrabrookshire347 Před 10 lety +3

    That's Super Mario 4:28

  • @cassette_tape
    @cassette_tape Před 9 lety +12

    3:40 "Tampon"?

  • @MrMorton96
    @MrMorton96 Před 11 lety +1

    The PBS logo is also from Basil Hears A Noise on vhs in 1997

  • @sirthomas_1
    @sirthomas_1 Před 2 lety +2

    3:08 I’m still not in a logo community, but is there an original video

  • @OFFICIALGUSRICHLEN
    @OFFICIALGUSRICHLEN Před 10 lety +1

    Where the blue blazes do you or anyone else find these intros/logos?! Seriously, this is amazing!

    • @LaptopLarry330
      @LaptopLarry330 Před 10 lety +1

      I came across the very rare color NET Logo (with words) when I watched a 1968 episode of "Black Journal" here on CZcams. It was posted from someone in the UK, who got a copy from the Library of Congress (I think). I informed NETNetwork, and he was able to post them here on CZcams. youngleader610 then got the footage from him. I found the second "NET Carpet Logo ID" on a 1962 documentary about computers that was made by KQED San Francisco, California, and was posted at, I think, the DailyMotion web site (which is a Canadian-based competitor with CZcams). I told NETNetwork about it, and he posted that ID video footage on CZcams. Finally, I came across a multi-part series on an Indian Philosopher that aired on NET in 1966 here on CZcams (with Spanish language subtitles added to the original footage). It had a different kind of black-and-white NET House Logo ID, with white shaded words, instead of dark shaded ones seen on the black-and-white videotapes of "Mister Rogers' Neighborhood" from 1968. Once again, I told NETNetwork about them, and he posted the footage on CZcams as well.

  • @kekitsu
    @kekitsu Před 5 lety +2

    I was born in 1996 so I dont know the 80s logos
    When I was small, I was scared from the 4:23
    I thought it was very creepy

  • @blakesworld4463
    @blakesworld4463 Před 4 lety +2

    2:18 Sesame Street !!!

  • @marcomacias3960
    @marcomacias3960 Před 7 lety

    the jingle for the glass 3d logo almost sounds like the NBC chime

  • @underscoreprint
    @underscoreprint Před 8 lety +1

    The 1971 PBS logo is my favorite

  • @johnlander1499
    @johnlander1499 Před 10 lety

    You're right! This was actually created by, and for, Saturday Night Live.

  • @RoadRunnerCoyote2013
    @RoadRunnerCoyote2013 Před 11 lety +2

    Where did you find the instrumental version of the 1993 PBS logo?

  • @mcydodge919
    @mcydodge919 Před 11 lety +1

    I definitely agree!

  • @PlayhouseDisneyAndDisneyJunior

    hail to see and it looks great for to talk about it again to see and loved them go to Phoenix school and I am do! HPLOC kids

  • @yellowplate4539
    @yellowplate4539 Před 7 lety +1

    my fav is the P and split 3d glass

  • @GOOSEYGOOSE9
    @GOOSEYGOOSE9 Před 2 lety +1

    The Announcer Does Sound Like My Dentist Dr.Brian Kerr.The Announcer.

  • @MHfanJJC30
    @MHfanJJC30 Před 11 lety +2

    My favorite ones are the tri-colored, windowsill and circle p-heads (1998) ones.
    A few things i wondered about the 1998 ident: what was the circle p-head made of? I'd like to think maybe balsa wood? Also, there was information provided a while back about where this ident was shot and the studio that made it, but it's lost now. Does anyone know?

  • @SaraHouck461
    @SaraHouck461 Před 7 lety

    My favorite out of the "be more" variants that are currently being used is the stargazing one.

  • @hoseapigram4086
    @hoseapigram4086 Před 5 lety +1

    3:18 is my favorite,
    it's in my head forever,
    My wish is I worked at PBS

  • @Causidore
    @Causidore Před 8 lety +1

    0:15 is the most bizarre logo ever. NET Globe from 1966.

  • @CoolidgeTheBand
    @CoolidgeTheBand Před 3 lety +1

    It's gone. It's gone. It's gone. It's gone. It's gone.

  • @jaxxchaos4779
    @jaxxchaos4779 Před 8 lety +1

    Where can I find the NET Carpet logo with the alternate announcer?

  • @salvadorgarciasanchez8020
    @salvadorgarciasanchez8020 Před 10 lety +1

    RoadRunnerCoyote2014 The Instrumental 1993 Logo It´s From A Documentary Of Making That Logo

  • @twotonemotionballoon
    @twotonemotionballoon Před 5 lety +1

    Eastenders on PBS - 17 4 2019 (RARE)

  • @joaopereira817
    @joaopereira817 Před 9 lety +13

    I didn't understand in 3:39. And scared me.

    • @NostalgiCrazy
      @NostalgiCrazy Před 9 lety +1

      João Pereira Lol yeah that would be freaky at night!

    • @joaopereira817
      @joaopereira817 Před 7 lety +2

      ***** Yes. I got scared the first time.
      But now it's good.

    • @dudey1348
      @dudey1348 Před 7 lety

      Pbs

    • @loankieuminh
      @loankieuminh Před 6 lety +1

      AND ON, AND ON, AND ON, AND ON, AND ON...

    • @untexan
      @untexan Před 6 lety

      That was at the very end of an episode of Square One TV where they did a song about infinity, about how it goes on... and on... and on... and on...

  • @thetraingamer2481
    @thetraingamer2481 Před rokem +1

    You missed some, like NET idents from the 1950/1940’s.

  • @lisacoston8175
    @lisacoston8175 Před 4 lety

    old time logos looked so eerie🤔🤔😹🤔🤔😂

  • @GOOSEYGOOSE9
    @GOOSEYGOOSE9 Před 2 lety +1

    Who Is Then The PBS Announcer.

  • @minacarlet-mendano3630
    @minacarlet-mendano3630 Před 2 lety +1

    THEY PUT THE PEPSI HERE OF YTP (CZcams poop) HERE😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @MrJapulleyable
    @MrJapulleyable Před 10 lety +2

    I haven't heard of NET before... :'(

    • @LaptopLarry330
      @LaptopLarry330 Před 10 lety +2

      NET was started up in 1952 as a clearing house for educational films to be aired by university-owned/operated television stations. In the late-1950s, The Ford Foundation provided a major source of funding, and the organization decided to form a separate television network. But by the time The Ford Foundation renewed their funding for NET, they (NET) were limited by how they could grow the network, by how they could take advantage of the changing technology of videotaped programming, and live "via satellite" programming, and by how they could obtain additional funding. NET was deep in debt, and the Ford Foundation was going to cut back greatly on their funding for the network by the early-1970s. NET ended up going to the US House and US Senate for funding. They were reluctant to fund NET, but President Johnson saw a future for public broadcasting. President Johnson was able to cut a deal with the US House and US Senate to create the Corporation For Public Broadcasting (CFB) in 1967. When President Nixon was elected, he did not like the documentaries that aired on NET that made the US Government look bad. He established PBS in 1969 to compete with NET, and to "keep NET in line politically", with the threat of being shut down in favor of PBS. NET management did not listen. In 1970, NET aired a documentary about the deceptive business practices of large US banks, and President Nixon essentially shut NET down by the Fall of that year.

    • @Zapruderfilm1963
      @Zapruderfilm1963 Před 10 lety +2

      PBS was born out of NET. PBS was essentially a name change from National Educational Television to Public Broadcasting Service beginning in 1970.

    • @LaptopLarry330
      @LaptopLarry330 Před 10 lety +2

      juliajuliagenevieve From what I have read on the Internet, there was a two-year period, in 1969 and 1970, when NET and PBS ran parallel with one another, and both funded by the Corporation For Public Broadcasting. Nixon was responsible for phasing out NET, because he did not like their programming content. The way PBS was set up, the Federal Government had more control over the programming content that was broadcast on the network.

    • @Zapruderfilm1963
      @Zapruderfilm1963 Před 10 lety +1

      Larry Ressler
      Hi Larry, yes you are correct about what you have read. You will see a multicolor PBS logo that just reads "" Public Broadcasting Service"" in the same three primary colors that the NET logo was using at the same time. This was the phase out period. You are also correct concerning Nixon's views on funding a national network. Good comment Larry. :O)

    • @Nintengirl15
      @Nintengirl15 Před 10 lety +1

      Net was what started PBS. That was the original channel name but then it got changed to PBS

  • @badwordnotonaxicentinperio4162

    public broadcasting service

  • @waynefennell5030
    @waynefennell5030 Před 9 lety +5

    and on and on

  • @Min3r_R
    @Min3r_R Před 7 lety +1

    diss iz pee bee ess

  • @jamijentzsch7154
    @jamijentzsch7154 Před 9 lety +3

    We are pbs
    We are pbs
    We are pbs
    We are pbs
    We are pbs
    We are pbs
    We are pbs

    • @NostalgiCrazy
      @NostalgiCrazy Před 9 lety +1

      Jami Jentzsch
      This is PBS
      This is PBS
      This is PBS
      This is PBS
      This is PBS
      This is PBS
      This is PBS
      This is PBS

    • @TimothyLy
      @TimothyLy Před 9 lety +1

      Stop repeating each other

    • @jamijentzsch7154
      @jamijentzsch7154 Před 9 lety +2

      My son is on the Autism Spectrum and is just learning. Please be patient.😁👍 Thank you for being kind.

    • @NostalgiCrazy
      @NostalgiCrazy Před 9 lety

      Jami Jentzsch Lmao!

    • @TimothyLy
      @TimothyLy Před 8 lety

      What did you mean Lmao

  • @waynefennell5030
    @waynefennell5030 Před 9 lety +6

    1:32: That logo scared me

  • @CoolidgeTheBand
    @CoolidgeTheBand Před 3 lety +1

    IT IS GONE! IT IS GONE! IT IS GONE! IT IS GONE! IT IS GONE! 3:38

  • @edwinochieng6846
    @edwinochieng6846 Před 3 lety

    Good game fun fun

  • @ppwonka
    @ppwonka Před 7 lety

    Nice Station.

  • @dominicking5181
    @dominicking5181 Před rokem +1

    PBS (Public Broadcasting Service)🇺🇲
    Pre-9/11 stuff.😎

  • @jamijentzsch7154
    @jamijentzsch7154 Před 8 lety +1

    Hockey vs Gloomy Hockey

  • @ScdanielInc
    @ScdanielInc Před 9 lety +6

    1:32 scares me.

  • @annikacartier2355
    @annikacartier2355 Před 9 lety +3

    This is a only thing i gotta tell you guys NET/PBS is not scary

  • @louisiana173
    @louisiana173 Před 6 lety

    0:16 hey everyone is a dancing fire

  • @HikariConchitaRosex
    @HikariConchitaRosex Před 11 lety +1

    I saw it in this episode (not sure which one): /watch?v=Y7g9ROouhpQ
    And I looked up some other episodes of the series, and they didn't show both NET logos at the end.

  • @ABCDEFGH-or2eb
    @ABCDEFGH-or2eb Před 2 lety

    The first two logos actually started being used in 1959, not 1952.

  • @joseluisdefrancisco1014

    NATIONAL EDUCATIONAL TELEVISION

  • @iHeartsNostalgiaPit
    @iHeartsNostalgiaPit Před 8 lety

    3:15 oooo right in the 90s

  • @Dan-cd5xk
    @Dan-cd5xk Před 9 lety +3

    Net come back because PBS kids is now having horable shows 😒

  • @Nintengirl15
    @Nintengirl15 Před 10 lety +1

    Hey does anyone know who's the guy that does most of the current PBS id voiceovers like in the PBS Kids one you would hear him say blah blah blah the Helena Rubinstein foundation and blah blah blah the guy scares me lol

    • @darwingaming7719
      @darwingaming7719 Před 9 lety +1

      Um Idk I think my brothers prencilpal when he was 20

  • @DarthSinistris
    @DarthSinistris Před 10 lety +1

    2:51 - 4:00 I need a time machine..

  • @rickyfan3956
    @rickyfan3956 Před 11 lety +2

    00:29 The music and logo at that point is scary and would make me feel like I was the last person alive on the planet!

  • @wisemaninus
    @wisemaninus Před 9 lety +1

    TAKE ON

  • @GlowkiesComedian
    @GlowkiesComedian Před 10 lety

    The follow ing program is from net production!!!!!!?! BPS

  • @ryanbigsmart1
    @ryanbigsmart1 Před 10 lety

    they no sound

  • @minniemouse2303
    @minniemouse2303 Před 5 lety +1

    3:39 *_AND ON_*

  • @jennymarie669
    @jennymarie669 Před 11 lety +1

    What's a voice over?

  • @gummyray_the_superstar
    @gummyray_the_superstar Před 3 lety +3

    1. 1960-1966
    2. 1964-1967
    3. 1968-1969
    4. 1969-1970
    5. 1970-1970
    6. 1970-1984
    7. 1984-1989
    8. 1989-1992
    9. 1992-1996
    10. 1996-1998
    11. 1998-2001
    12. 2002-2008
    13. 2009-2019

  • @richardadamson1438
    @richardadamson1438 Před 10 lety +1

    1:35 really scared me.

    • @NostalgiCrazy
      @NostalgiCrazy Před 9 lety

      richard adamson Lol yeah, as an adult that is now the freakiest cause it's still and silent... for WAY too long o_o

    • @richardadamson1438
      @richardadamson1438 Před 9 lety

      ***** Aggreed

  • @tinkerbell3628
    @tinkerbell3628 Před 7 lety

    do video treasures and anchor bay logo history?

  • @paulblake8888
    @paulblake8888 Před 9 lety +3

    net/pbs

  • @t1p9d
    @t1p9d Před 6 lety

    Be more already! How many times do we have to tell you?

  • @FriendlyTelevisionFriends

    NET NATIONAL EDUCATIONAL TELEVISION PBS PUBLIC BROADCASTING SERVICE

  • @rawr51919
    @rawr51919 Před 11 lety +1

    @youngleader610 You forgot the 1984 "Split Profile" with yellow text.

  • @LoloBoyMii
    @LoloBoyMii Před 8 lety

    3:39 oh crap

  • @ThunderFist1978
    @ThunderFist1978 Před 9 lety +1

    Is that "and on and on" logo in the 1984 section official?

    • @LifeinAnalog
      @LifeinAnalog Před 9 lety

      Not exactly. It comes from an episode of "Square One TV." It was only used when that particular episode aired, it carries on from a sketch that featured on the show.

    • @ThunderFist1978
      @ThunderFist1978 Před 9 lety +1

      Analog Child I didn't think it was. Thanks for clearing that up.

    • @LifeinAnalog
      @LifeinAnalog Před 9 lety +1

      No problem!

  • @carlosgomez-jy6zu
    @carlosgomez-jy6zu Před 7 lety

    National Educational Television ID Logo That Was Used From 1952 To 1953
    National Educational Television ID Logo That Was Used From 1953 To 1959
    National Educational Television ID Logo That Was Used From 1959 To 1960
    National Educational Television ID Logo That Was Used From 1960 To 1962

  • @HurricaneMel3783
    @HurricaneMel3783 Před rokem

    Logo history:PBS

  • @EdgarBlake505
    @EdgarBlake505 Před 11 lety +1

    KRTE-TV-DT CHANNEL 12 ALBUQUERQUE RIO RANCHO SANTA FE PBS

  • @LD-vr1yq
    @LD-vr1yq Před 6 lety

    What’s the font at 1:37

  • @waynefennell5030
    @waynefennell5030 Před 9 lety +2

    1:35

  • @shanuthejackal4817
    @shanuthejackal4817 Před 8 lety

    3:40 Is gone, is gone, is gone....

  • @danielonn2002
    @danielonn2002 Před 10 lety

    Who is that educated fartso announcing the NET bumper?

    • @LaptopLarry330
      @LaptopLarry330 Před 10 lety

      I cannot remember his name, but he did the voiceover work for "The Lone Ranger" on ABC in the late-1940s and early 1950s.

    • @cmulwee001
      @cmulwee001 Před 10 lety

      Larry Ressler Fred Foy was his name.