HELLBOY 3 - An Unfinished Trilogy
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
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With HELLBOY (2004) AND HELLBOY II (2008) The stage was all set for a much anticipated HELLBOY III.
A conclusion to the trilogy would have reunited star Ron Perlman and visionary director Guillermo del Toro to complete the arc of Hellboy's mission and destiny. Alas, it was not to be, here's a timeline of the cancelled project.
#Hellboy3 #GuillermodelToro #RonPerlman
00:00 - Intro
00:14 - Poll
00:50 - Hellboy / Hellboy II
02:24 - Hellboy III?
05:56 - Perlman / del Toro Interview
13:52 - Perlman Interview
14:45 - Hellboy III Plot Idea
19:06 - Hellboy III Cancelled
19:31 - Hellboy Reboot - Krátké a kreslené filmy
120 million budget is cheaper than most comicbook budget budgets now.
Del Toro is the perfect and honestly only director who I believe can bring justice to Hellboy and his world.
He walks that line of fairy tale and horror that the comics do perfectly but I feel most directors would lean too much in either direction.
Mmmaybe Gore Verbinski, but then again he hadn't much of a career since Pirates or Rango and Lone Ranger was a bad step in every direction.
I would actually kind of disagree. The movies are actually pretty bad, in adapting the spirit of the comics. It's just a totally different story. These are more "Del toro movies" than hellboy movies. Hellboy in the movies is your typical charming outcast who saves the day despite his appeareances. Comic Hellboy on the other hand is a tragic hero who is destined to walk the night forever alone, protecting a race he can never be a part of, and looking for his purpose of his existence only to find nothing.
The movies are fine but I would love to see a more darker comic accurate version too.
I liked the movies. Would like to see another one
Del Toros was good but far from the comic. Honestly I would've loved to see James Gun tackle the material.
I remember being in the Theater for Hellboy 2 The Golden Army and the ending left me so excited for the last movie and left me so disappointed when I heard they were rebooting it.
Guierrmo Del Toro's contributions to Hellboy and Blade are severely underrated and Ron Perlman nails the role as the primary character.
The theme of Outsiders saving the world from the very Apocalypse they were Born to be the Horsemen leading the Doom of Man.
They can still make Hellboy 3 now that the reboot flopped hard and fans are still interested. Fans want the sequel and they can still do it. It's only a matter of time until it happens (look at Coming to America and The Incredibles, both films had a sequel come out a long time after the original, so it's not impossible that Hellboy 3 can get green lit again). Netflix, Sony, Amazon, WB, Paramount, or Universal will probably be able to give Del Toro the budget he needs since they do need more content for either their streaming service or for a future movie line up. As for animated movies, they did make two animated films as a tie in to the films and sadly, the third film for that animated series was cancelled, but we got a 6 minute short. If they make the third film animated, it will not only complete the trilogy from the first two films, but it will also complete the animated films as a trilogy as well. Mike Mignola is also dumb for turning down Del Torro's offer for making a comic/graphic novel. That comic would've made a lot for both parties.
Ron Pearlman is in his 80's and Del Toro has said there are other things he wanted to work on first. 🙄
@@freakshowfilmfestival3591 he's actually 71 years old but yeah he's kind of gotten too old for the role
Incredibles and coming to america... Im sorry but those examples are just completely different and it is very dumb to compare them.
Gone With The Wind had a sequel. So did Star Wars. Lol
@@sonicfreak04 well with the way tech has got and the way hellboy looks in terms of being big and red with a somewhat simple costume and prosthesis, they could render a cgi model that is even good enough for close ups. From deep fakes to aging tech- I’m sure it would work
Hellboy 3: Scrapped sequel aimed to take place in Hell. A crappy remake was made instead.
Ghostbusters 3: Scrapped sequel aimed to take place in Hell. A crappy remake was made instead.
Except that the Ghostbusters reboot is a masterpiece compared to Hellboy.
Also, could’ve got Dark Horse and Sony to make a Ghostbusters/Hellboy crossover, even if Bill Murray still said no!
GhostUsters3 is happening Ghosbusters Afterlife
Doom 3: Ah for fucks sake!
****Reboot
Ghosts busters 3 was going to take place in HELL?!
I know its not what we want. But I'd 100% take an animated version of it film at this stage.
We need the trilogy.
It’s quite literally the only option at this point. Pearlman & Tambor are old as piss, and Selma Blair has MS and can barely walk without a cane. If they had a solid budget, I’m sure they could make a damn fine full-length animated feature with the cast giving it their all thru VO
They could do a Live-Action Hellboy 3 movie similar to what they did with Snyder Cut but also an Animated Series with Ron Perlman doing the Voice.
One of the saddest obstacles that I'm surprised you didn't touch on is Selma Blair. Her health has been deteriorating the last few years due to MS. She still works, but at a reduced rate, and I don't how what effect that would have on her ability to play such a central character in the series
Loren wait Sean blsir has MS
Indeed. I was also curious how they will solve the problem of Liz since Selma has MS, which is such a shame. She is such a talented lady.
Unfortunately, I think we will never see the end of the trilogy as Guillermo as envisioned.
I still think it's possible that the third film could happen, if by some miracle it gets the funding it needs. Yes Ron Perlman is in his 70s but that could be worked into the story, and aging superhero facing his mortality, and his destiny, ala Logan.
i also think they could just use a stand-in most of the time but for closeups use Ron.
I think maybe it can be done as an animated movie, as it would be more feasible and can be done remotely so the pandemic won’t be a problem.
@Jing Soo Cho Well if it can be done as an animated film then they would just have to record their voices, and not have to deal with physically being there in costume and makeup. Ron Perlman already has plenty of experience in voice work and animation.
@Jing Soo Cho I agree, and I fuckin love animation as a medium. If they could get the lip sync down perfect just have Pearlman do the voice and have someone else do everything else like how James earl Jones only voiced earth Vader and someone else played him (thou hopefully their name would actually get remembered lol)
Except Hellboy doesn't age like Logan.
I would’ve liked Bruce Campbell as Lobster Johnson.
I could definately see it
If anything, at least for the jokes
Mr blue sky what about Harrison Ford as lobster johnsobn like I dont know why but I just see harrsion as lobster
@@zacharyjochumsen9677 maybe.
@@MrBlueSkyof1607 yeah Harrison would hnestl6bmake good lobster Johnson
I was very disappointed he didn't get to make Hellboy 3. But I'm even more disappointed that he never got to make AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS!
Same. I want those films.
I remember seeing Hellboy II in theaters. I was 5 years old. I remember that day so vividly because of how much I loved the film. I dressed up as Hellboy for Halloween, and my father spent so much money to get me the BPRD buddies toys from this collector because he knew I had to have them. Every now and then I watch the Hellboy movies on dvd to relive the nostalgia, and it always bothers me how it never got a proper ending. Each passing year as Ron Perlman got older, and when Selma Blair got diagnosed with MS, my hope for a sequel faded. Although all we can do now is wish for a sequel that will never come to pass, I am at least thankful for the first two movies giving me such a memorable childhood. Perhaps new doors will open up in the future, but since the Hellboy reboot shot down any hope for it, and since 14 years have elapsed since the second film, my hopes aren’t high.
This.....THIS just breaks my fuuuuuuucking heart that it was never made
This one hurts...
A lot.
A Trilogy that never got completed that I wish we had as its disappointing that G. Del Toro's Hellboy 3 never got made with a awful reboot made in it's place makes me wonder why didn't they let this one get made? Also disappointed that Mountain of madness never got passed pre production with the studio saying "No" to Toro's R Rated vision for the project. Hollywood, you suck!
Yes, after his big success at the Oscars with Shape of Water in early 2018 I actually expected him to use the momentum and finally get his version of At the Mountains of Madness greenlit.
But I won't complain: he got together a crazily impressive cast for Nightmare Alley about which I'm very excited.
Meanwhile, we have The Idol. 😂
Considering his last film, The Shape of Water, was a critical and financial success, and he has two new movies coming out soon, del Toro will probably have a bit more leverage. Especially after the previous film didn't do too well, people are revisiting del Toro's Hellboy films. I really hope he gets to do that 3rd film before it's too late.
I'd be really intriguing if they made part 3 in the form of animation. I'd really want to see Hellboy in stop-motion.
Absolute crime Hellboy 3 wasn’t funded and made. The first 2 Hellboy’s are glorious cinema.
I've seen the reboot... Those are 15 bucks I'll never get back
Why hasn't anyone thought making it animated? That would be cheaper than live-action, Perlman getting older wouldn't be an issue and it wouldn't step on Mignola's comics toes.
plus they already made animated movies with Mignola.
Considering how ridiculously obvious that solution is I would assume someone brought it up but was shut down.
My money is on Mignola considering it too close to his comic.
That or no one wanted to invest in a animated movie which considering the costs...yeah possible as well.
@@strugglesnuggledslime7040 was going to say the same thing. I think its just close enought to the existing comic material so Mignola doesn't want it to exist
You read My mind.
Del Toro had the idea to do it animated, but Mignola declined the project, because it said that it would interfere with the comics and that's where their relationship went to the dumpster.
Maybe if Pinocchio does well for Netflix they can put together an animated Hellboy III.
I'd like them to make more of the animated movies personally, too bad Mignola shot down doing HB3 as a comic
Well myself much prefer Thunder in Paradise with Hulk Hogan 😂🤣😂🤣
Instead we got an awful reboot☹️
Can you also do Guillermo Del Toro’s version of Pacific Rim sequel that almost happened and unmade movie adaptation of At the Mountain of Madness, please?
Guillermo do it as an animated movie!!! is chaper and Jeffrey can work from a walker
Or a comic book
There’s been a couple direct to video animated projects based on Magnola’s art style that were pretty good, including Hell Boy
And Shape of Water was almost an Abe Sapien movie
I'm stunned at the similarities between this and Ghostbusters. Two movies and then a reboot I wonder if everybody goes and support Ghostbusters afterlife they might consider finally making the third Hellboy movie if not maybe we can get it in a video game format
To me the two biggest possibilities are either a video game or an animated movie.
Maybe
Or maybe as an animated film
well the BPRD is similar to the ghostbuster's company in the fact that they both deal with the paranormal
@@benmalsky9834 Theres been 2 animated movies of Hellboy already and they are awesome!
Sword of Storms and Blood & Iron are their titles.
They're written by Mike Mignola, creatively produced by Guillermo Del Toro, produced by Larry Gordon & Lloyd Levin (they produced both Del Toros live action Hellboys) and Ron Perlman, Selma Blair, Doug Jones & John Hurt return to voice Hellboy, Liz, Abe Sapien and Professor Broom respectively although John Hurt isn't in Sword of Storms.
Well worth a watch if you dig Big Red lol.
As unfortunate as the fact we're likely never gonna get a Hellboy 3 & Mignola being vehemently against it being a comic, I wonder if DelToro would be open to turn it into an epic narrative-focused video game instead - especially considerimg his love for the medium. He could probably direct the mocap cinematics w/the main original cast.
If these studio's actually knew what they were doing they would give Del Toro whatever he wants to make Hellboy 3. There's no doubt they would make money on it!!
It's a shame we never got a continuation of Del Toro's Hellboy.
If he wanted to, Del Toro can make his Hellboy 3 in the form of a comic book. Get the original creator to not only collaborate in terms of story, but also do the drawing.
Just a thought.
Mignola shot that down numerous times.
@@bobgarlen
Really? That sucks.
watch the video bro...
@@alienboy1322 maybe Mignola can do a spin off of and say that it is what Hellboy 3 film should have been, we just need to publish this as other media do not want to. Personally I'll recommend for them to make a manga for it in a manga short or one volume if possible.
@@Ren089 maybe del Toro could make it into another film
It was such a shame that we didn't get Hellboy 3, the second one was apsultly incredible and is one of my favorite comicbook movies.
What i loved most about these movies is that they are not Rated-R but still amazing, I never imagined before the movies that this could've worked but it did! I also really loved Del Toro's style mixed with Mike Mignola's it looked amazing.
I think it’s totally possible. I mean, look at what happened with Ghostbuster and Devil May Cry. Reboots shouldn’t ruin continuations in an established series. Fingers crossed..
Hellboy 3 as an animated movie or a video game would be a worthy compromise I think
That would solve the age difference and makeup problem too.
Bro for real many thanks for the content. Always 100% on point, get breakdowns and descriptions. Loving the channel mate keep em coming 👌
Ridley Scott killed "Mountains of Madness" when he made Prometheus, which was deemed to similar in plot...
That's really a shame and i don't really understand why. It is not like Mountain of Madness is going to be transformed into a movie origin of the Elder Things and or the "Star-spawn of Chulhu".
hoepfully they can make an animated movie so the original actors ages dont pose a problem, i would love to see a Hellboy movie animated by the guys who did the Castlevania netflix series
Another great video Supervoid! I can’t wait to see some of the videos I suggested to you last weekend at some point later.
Another awesome video, nice job man. You're setting the standard for videos like this
I remember when I was in university back in the late 90s... My best friend's roommate would make the incredible drawings and 3D Studio Max renderings of Hellboy... The roommate's name: Ryan Meinerding
That guy's an artistic genius!
i really really really love your channel
I feel like Guillermo Del Toro deserves his own video on his many cancelled film projects. From a Doctor Strange film written by Neil Gaiman, to the MCU Hulk TV show, to Justice League Dark, this guy has a lot of cancelled projects that make me quite sad.
Absolutely, there's a Justice League Dark one on the page you should check out if you get time, del Toro pitched Perlman as Swamp Thing too.
The Hobbit as well
Guillermo Del Toro should compete with Quentin Tarantino as to how many film ideas they can abandon in a single career.
"abandon" seems unfair. it suggests failure of creativity rather than being disallowed via the financial limits. these two directors, if they had unlimited funds for every idea, they would probably see them to the final cut, but unfortunately that's not all, they need procution, distribution, crew finances, printing rights.... so much money and still it makes a movie almost impossible to make.
@@swanclipper that could very well be the case for Guillermo. However, Tarantino is Hollywood royalty and can literally make anything he pleases. He does have the habit of voicing interest in projects, getting the studio and fans excited then suddenly abandon it and move onto the next idea.
@@thrdstooge That's honestly not how I view him at all. If anything, he's far more of an Orson Welles type, a guy with a lot of ideas studios won't give him the budget or control to make. He's tried to make so many different projects work with all intention, but he doesn't have the support from the top that he needs. Perhaps it's due to him being such an individualistic, auteur director who has a style that can't be as easily reigned in, but it's a shame as his creative genius needs to be more rewarded. It's just that with certain talent Hollywood refuses to take risks and because Del Toro doesn't deliver the billions, he doesn't have that protected status/free reign like so many others who make profitable crap. For all his films' awards and nominations, it's the money that matters the most, unfortunately.
@@Bad_At_Parties Maybe he needs to switch tactics. Robert Rodriguez for example. He had his eye on the prize with Sin City so he made the studio a boat load of cash with Spy Kids. Del Toro is a brilliant director but he does have the habit of abandoning projects that go further than Hellboy III. I would have loved to see his take on a Tolken story with The Hobit but he abandoned that as well, despit having a supportive producer Peter Jackson. There's definitely more behind the scenes than the studio's inability to recognize his genius.
Cool documentary of the lost Hellboy 3. Hellboy 2 is a favorite action/horror/fantasy movie. Luke Goss as Prince Nuada was awesome, along with those martial arts for his character.
Thank you 🙏🏻❤️
this breaks my cinematic heart...
I have to say I’ve loved Perlman from back when I first saw him in Beauty and the beast the TV show and he was been great in every film he was in even when the films have been crap.
I enjoyed the video. I subscribed.
That Prince Nuada spin-off sounds like it would’ve been pretty cool I fell asleep in that shitty reboot when I saw it at the theaters
I really wish we would get a Hellboy 3 with both Run Perlman and director Guillermo Del Toro... oh, what a wish come true that would be.
Hellboy was one of the first movies I like its so sad we didn't get a third movie
I agree the story was amazing
I would LOVE to see this !!
I already love this channel, love Pearlman , and would’ve watched this regardless......but him doing that make a wish grant had me crying. Good lord that broke me up inside lol. To me he’s Saint Ron Pearlman now. His Amazon series “Hand of God” was cheated out of a finale too. Why do they always cheat RP?
Do it animated.
Ron Perlman was perfect for Hellboy, his humor, style, and demeanor. Add in Guillermo, and Abe Sapian.
Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe.😉
Hate that stuff’s played out this way, Del Toro’s take on the character and universe is the best of all of them
After Hellboy 2 they should have made HellBoyyy Trae: Welcome to Hell Hood Homlz and it takes place in a ghetto part of Hell
No it should be hell girl
Nice
He only has one more movie just to complete the trilogy I never saw any of the Hellboy movies but I believe he can make Hellboy three he just needs one more movie that he’s done!
I'm a longtime hellboy fan since the 90s and I'd love to see a hellboy 3!
I think there’s a way for the movie to come back : animation. Won’t have to worry about make up, special effects or the actors being a little older.
Would have killed to see this movie
I would love for an animated Hellboy 3 directed by Guillermo and with the original actors voices. It might not be the ending to the trilogy we wanted but it would at least be an ending.
Man, I would love to have seen this version of Hellboy, and The Mountains of Madness Of Madness.
If they could make Trash Snyder Cut into a Reality then they could easily make Guillermo del Toro's Hellboy 3 movie but also a Hellboy Animated Series with Ron Perlman doing the Voice.
I wish we could get this in like an animated but using the same voices
So sad his At The Mountains of Madness never got made. ILM did the screen test for it. Would have been so fucking cool.
there are so many moments in both Hellboy movies that tease an epic ending. It still frustrates me that we didn't even get an animated version
Out of all the comic/superhero films, and Im not overly keen on the majority, l do ❤ Hellboy 2004. Both Hellboy I and II. ❤ So easy to watch, enjoyable and entertaining and great soundtrack. The story, the actors, the filmography, the action, makeup, and the fab music are perfect.
Top notch. ❤❤❤ Superb
I like actor David Harbour and I understand he put a lot of effort into his version (big boots to fill), but he is not Ron.
Ron IS the ultimate undisputed Hellboy, he and Guillermo.
Guillermo and Ron should have been allowed to complete the trilogy. They were a winning combination, both in terms of their relationship, what they achieved, what they delivered to the audience, and to the motion picture industry.
Del Toro is having a great year, I hope he can use this momentum to get H3 or Mountains greenlit. Netflix has infinite budget, if there’s one filmmaker I want to see them continue partnering with, it’s Guillermo!
If any new Hellboy project was green lit I’d want it to be an animated series that stays close to the comics. You could have both Perlman and Harbour be in it. Perlman could be Hellboy’s uncle Astaroth and Harbour could be Hellboy’s father Azzael.
much like a van helsing 2 i would kill for a guillermo del toro hellboy 3 these where some of my favorite movies of the 2000s and sucks that both where cancelled
While I did like Hellboy 2019... it was not what I was looking for, I was looking for a third GuillermodelToro Hellboy3 movie with RonPerlman as Hellboy. I didn't know it was meant as a Trilogy, all I know is it was a hell lot better then Hellboy 2019.
If they tryed crowd funding it it would be payed for within a mounth or less
Can't they just take the idea make it into an animated mini-series or something?
I would still pay to watch Hellboy 3 in theaters, if only studios actually gave the fans what they wanted.
I am a huge sucker for BTS info for cancelled projects. It's everywhere in video games, but not my other passion which is MOVIES.........till YESTERDAY! I love your channel, love the documentary style, love that's to the point with no opinion, just straight facts, love the topics to films I always wanted to know why it was cancelled where you give in-depth details, interviews, pictures, clippings.......WOW! Thank you!
The problem with the Hellboy reboot was the problem with the Evil dead reboot is both were reboots no one wanted replacing sequel's everyone wanted
I know Del Toro is only working on animated movies now but at this point I’m ok if Hellboy 3 goes that route
Guillermo del Toro should’ve directed Doctor Strange. He’d be amazing
He was at some point back in the late 2000’s
@@oceanman7063 that would’ve been so sick!
We still got a good movie tho
Oh fuck this is the one i've been hoping for
There’s a universe out there where Guillermo got his wish and some billionaire grants him unlimited funds and creative freedom and I just so happen to be born in this shit one.
Since James Gunn's Suicide Squad is coming out, do y'all consider doing a video on the cancelled third Scooby-Doo movie which was a direct continuation of Scooby Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed.
Ron perlman is a supreme actor. ✌️👏👏👏
I need this movie
They could just do an animated version, i wouldn't mind that honestly
@Supervoid Cinema
Chris, are you doing the majority of videos now or are Andrew and Alex still doing some of the videos?
I was just aware of hellboy movie series days before. When i watched the movie as i have already known all these , i just cant help feeling heartbreaking . For first few days It was like some place of my mind went blank and i can feel this hollow in every breathe. My mind plays I Cant Smile without You every time im not focus, kept recalling some touching scenes and it was very painful. I have no clue how to let go since it really screws me up for days ( maybe i shouldnt let go ) .
But the fact is the fact, i can only assume that hellboy completed his destiny and maybe should let him rest at last.I dont think there will be del toro's hellboy 3 either, perlman is so old now and no one invest things that dont profit .So its best to let it be. For now those intense feelings fade a little, which allows me to work as usual ,but it makes hellboy my lifetime character. Just hope someday i can see new hellboy stuffs , if theres nothing i can still do fanart tho.
Would love to see this style and quality of video cover Shane Carruth's unrealized projects
If this movie gets greenlit tomorrow to be made a few years from now the whole world will watch it
Top 20 Cancelled Movies I Wish Were Made
1. Torso
2. Ghost Soldiers
3. Shadow Company
4. Night Skies
5. Isobar
6. Crusade
7. Bartholomew Vs Neff
8. Alien 3 Original Script
9. Hellboy Chapter 3
10. Batman: Continues
11. Nightmare On Elm Street 6: The Dream Lover
12. Darkchylde
13. Hulk 1999
14. Man Of Steel 2
15. Ripley’s Believe It Or Not
16. Justice League: Dark
17. Creature From The Black Lagoon 1992
18. Berserker
19. Beast
20. Spider-Man 4
Honorable Mentions
Jurassic Park 3 Original Script
Godzilla 1994
Don't forget Inside Man 2. The original movie is one of the masterpiece crime action movie ever made.
Spoiler alert: The police officer and the detective had failed to catch the bank robber after all of the investigation & interrogation been made during the aftermath of the bank robbery.
Since how the original movie ended, the 2nd movie was planned to continue the story and planning to keep the actor from the 1st film as well. Technically, the 2nd film then got cancelled due to the lack of fund too just like the case with this cancelled 3rd film of Hellboy
One day I will write fan Mail to the Director of hellboy 1 and 2 I will ask him to please everyone give one more Hellboy movie we just need the third and final installment
I actually really like David Harbour as Hellboy, but he and Ron are to Hellboy what Christian Bale and Ben Affleck are to Batman. More than that. Ron is Like RDJ as Ironman.
Would you be willing to do a video on The project Jerry Lewis had spent his entire life trying to keep from being released
"The Day the Clown Cried"?
We could've had Hellboy Silverlance??!!!😵😵😱😱😩😩😭😭😭😭😢😢😫😫
This is infuriating! There is no cinematic Hellboy without del Toro and Perlman, _and_ Nuada Silverlance deserved and still deserves a spin off for himself!
@Supervoid Cinema will you do ones on Freddy vs Jason vs Ash and the rejected Resident Evil scripts?
I wonder how much del Toro could get from a Kickstarter?
He may aswell release the screenplay or atleast plot points of the film.
Well I just love all three Hellboy movie's, hope to get more but I can't really see them happening soon.
It's a straight up an injustice that we never got Hellboy 3 and got the shitty remake instead.
But what I find so incredible about the whole thing is that Mignola is the one person that made sure the film was dead and that the story would never be concluded even in comic book form and once he regained control of his creation and try to move on from del Toro it amazingly blew up in his face while del Toro gets Oscars and gets hailed as one of the best working directors today.
Karma does exist.
Wish they would do an animated version of it at least. Or if nothing else a move so we could get the story
I skipped school to watch the reboot. and I wasn't disappointed