To be underrated, he surely has to be known? Listening to similar music for fifty years, I had the joy of 'discovering' him only today - and via a YT suggestion at that! But you make a good point... ;-)
And yet when I did my B.mus in the 70s we studied him in conjunction with Chopin. Seemed to be better appreciated then than now, although now we are almost overwhelmed by so much newly released material.
@@andyfincham390 He was quite well known in his time due to his studies under Clementi and popularity in the concert halls of London, where he performed his own piano concerti. His music was aclaimed by no less than Joseph Haydn and is known to have influenced both Chopin and Brahms. Today, serious music (especially outside Europe) is not well known, thus few in the West can name more than a handful of composers, sadly.
Another example of a lesser known composer’s work being sensational. Of course Beethoven, Haydn, Mozart, et al are giants but just like art when you visit a museum with an exhibition dedicated to a given movement and see that the world doesn’t begin and end with one or two big names.
John Field was born in Dublin in 1782 and receiv’d a grounding in composition by Tomasso Giordani in Ireland and later in London became a piano student of the half-Swiss half-Italian composer Muzio Clementi for whom he later acted as a piano salesman both in London & in St Petersburg; he was noted primarily for his execution at the keyboard but his melodic gifts were of the highest level as this charming piano concerto amply shews-another near contemporary of Beethoven, he like so many of his generation, was overshadow’d by the great Master-but in recent years many of his unfortunately ignor’d piano works are now finally being heard by more and more audiences ... and rightfully so !!
@@thetruth495 Rich people died even younger then because they could afford the attention of doctors. When you were really sick and the doctor prescribed leeches and mercury it was soon end of story.
Un peu comme Clémenti il fait partie pour moi de ces " chainons manquants " parmi ceux qui ont influencé l'histoire de la musique sans en récolter (trop) les lauriers merci de contribuer à leur donner la place qu'il (s) mérite (nt) ❤ ❤ ❤
when I 1st heard this via FMDX back in 1983, it was -11C outside! - yet I endured that for some rare "FM stereo" DX & this was the piece ABC Classic FM was playing
It has indeed a lot of features in common with Mozart's music. For example, similar melodies and underlying harmonic progressions, chromatic passing tones, the form is also quiet similar. I don't know a lot about the orchestration, but the handling of instruments sounds quiet the same as well. Yet, in some places it is distinct different and original I think. :)
It leans towards the brillante movement, just like Hummel's works: the orchestration gets more transparent whenever piano enters and tries to compensate in intermezzi. If you compare to the textures of Mozart's 24th for example (chosen for its large for Classical standards orchestra) you will notice Mozart often has rather dense orchestral part, even counterpoint, under a piano fioritura, to the point it is not clear who is accompanying whom (and the answer is neither, they are "in concert"). Here the orchestral part is rather humble while the piano gets extensively acrobatic, until it stops - and then the orchestra explodes into some excessively expressive tutti. Mozart writes a concerto in the etymological sense of the word, while later composers just go for a piano sonata with orchestral accompaniment.
Hey, don’t wish your life away; St. Patrick’s day isn’t until the 17th of March! Still, it was nice to be reminded of Field’s Irishness ☘️, albeit under British subjugation.
Une lettre datée du 7 juin 1783 et adressée par Mozart à son père , renferme une sortie violente contre Clementi , à propos de ses sonates. Een brief van 7 juni 1783, aan Mozart gericht aan zijn vader, bevat een gewelddadige uitval tegen Clementi over zijn sonates.
Niet zeker of Mozart jaloers was, ik denk dat het meer te maken had met karakter. Mozart had geen geduld voor hamerende pianisten en componisten die academisch, hoekig schreven. Mozart was aanwezig toen Clementi zijn Sonata in Bb Major No. 2: speelde en vond dat begin thema zo goed dat hij het gebruikte in zijn Zauberflote ouverture. Op een superieure manier natuurlijk. Het is nu een van zijn beroemdste melodieeen. Wat Clementi er mee deed in zijn Sonate was eigenlijk niets bijzonders.
@@bartjebartmans wel, wat vaststaat is dat clementi en Mozart niet zo goed met elkaar overweg konden. Maar dat weerhield hem blijkbaar niet om een thema uit de sonatines van Clementi te lenen. Ik vind trouwens dat we clementis œufre voor piano sowieso niet moeten onderwaarderen. Het waren een van de eerste stukken die ik kon spelen!
Geen sonatine. Lees mijn antwoord hier boven. Mozart gebruikte thema's van Haydn, Michael Haydn, JC Bach, Backofen enz. enz. soms compleet zoals het 1ste thema van zijn klarinet concert. Of hij ze mocht of niet maakte hem niets uit. Hij hoorde een melodie en had vaak betere ideeen dan het origineel, Haydn uitgezonderd.
One of the most underrated composers ever
To be underrated, he surely has to be known? Listening to similar music for fifty years, I had the joy of 'discovering' him only today - and via a YT suggestion at that! But you make a good point... ;-)
And yet when I did my B.mus in the 70s we studied him in conjunction with Chopin. Seemed to be better appreciated then than now, although now we are almost overwhelmed by so much newly released material.
@@andyfincham390
He was quite well known in his time due to his studies under Clementi and popularity in the concert halls of London, where he performed his own piano concerti. His music was aclaimed by no less than Joseph Haydn and is known to have influenced both Chopin and Brahms. Today, serious music (especially outside Europe) is not well known, thus few in the West can name more than a handful of composers, sadly.
Another example of a lesser known composer’s work being sensational. Of course Beethoven, Haydn, Mozart, et al are giants but just like art when you visit a museum with an exhibition dedicated to a given movement and see that the world doesn’t begin and end with one or two big names.
John Field was born in Dublin in 1782 and receiv’d a grounding in composition by Tomasso Giordani in Ireland and later in London became a piano student of the half-Swiss half-Italian composer Muzio Clementi for whom he later acted as a piano salesman both in London & in St Petersburg; he was noted primarily for his execution at the keyboard but his melodic gifts were of the highest level as this charming piano concerto amply shews-another near contemporary of Beethoven, he like so many of his generation, was overshadow’d by the great Master-but in recent years many of his unfortunately ignor’d piano works are now finally being heard by more and more audiences ... and rightfully so !!
First, let me say thank you! The music of "lesser" composers still has a lot to offer... 👍🏻❤️👏👌
John Field invented the nocturne genre as we know it years before Chopin! Thank you for this upload.
You don’t say!
@@pawelpap9 he is right.
No kidding, Moran. Field's music was a huge influence upon Chopin.
Beautiful concerto. It almost made me wish to have lived in 1799. But then I remembered healthcare standards of that year.
Also no toothbrushes, toothpaste, toilet paper, shampoo, bar soap and all the other modern amenities for daily ablutions.
Maybe it was as bad as America in 2021.
Remember that Mozart died at 35 and Schubert at 31. Both would have been treated with antibiotics today, and survived.
@@cafeneckbeard The difference is that even the rich often died young in the 1800s. Rich Americans typically live to their 90s and 100s nowadays.
@@thetruth495 Rich people died even younger then because they could afford the attention of doctors. When you were really sick and the doctor prescribed leeches and mercury it was soon end of story.
Gotta love a good waltz right in the middle of a concerto. What a genius this man was.
Un peu comme Clémenti il fait partie pour moi de ces " chainons manquants " parmi ceux qui ont influencé l'histoire de la musique sans en récolter (trop) les lauriers merci de contribuer à leur donner la place qu'il (s) mérite (nt) ❤ ❤ ❤
Beautiful concerto by John Field
Bammert & LMP orchestra superb musicians/one of my favorite orchestras and for sure the J Field Piano Concertos ....heavenly music
Superbe concerto! Je découvre avec émerveillement ce compositeur.
Heard this one this morning on Classical California, thought who is this guy??? Had to come over here and hear it again. Wonderful stuff!
Such a delight
A wonderful piece.....thank you for broadening my musical education👏👏👏
Wuau. Thank you very much.
Muchas gracias.
This may be my new favorite composer....
when I 1st heard this via FMDX back in 1983, it was -11C outside! - yet I endured that for some rare "FM stereo" DX & this was the piece ABC Classic FM was playing
Very nice composed, with many new ways of technical playing
Bravo bravo bravo
superb genious composer J FIELD Clementi influenced BUT a gem onto his own
He invented new approach to the piano
It remembers me to Mozart in some parts.
It has indeed a lot of features in common with Mozart's music. For example, similar melodies and underlying harmonic progressions, chromatic passing tones, the form is also quiet similar. I don't know a lot about the orchestration, but the handling of instruments sounds quiet the same as well. Yet, in some places it is distinct different and original I think. :)
I agree.
Love the two other replies on this comment 👏 two types of commenters
It leans towards the brillante movement, just like Hummel's works: the orchestration gets more transparent whenever piano enters and tries to compensate in intermezzi. If you compare to the textures of Mozart's 24th for example (chosen for its large for Classical standards orchestra) you will notice Mozart often has rather dense orchestral part, even counterpoint, under a piano fioritura, to the point it is not clear who is accompanying whom (and the answer is neither, they are "in concert").
Here the orchestral part is rather humble while the piano gets extensively acrobatic, until it stops - and then the orchestra explodes into some excessively expressive tutti. Mozart writes a concerto in the etymological sense of the word, while later composers just go for a piano sonata with orchestral accompaniment.
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St. Patricks Day, Irish composers, nice! By the way, in case you haven't noticed already, Medtnaculus has beaten you to the nocturnes already.
Since when is uploading a competition? We just upload what is not out there yet. That's it.
Hey, don’t wish your life away; St. Patrick’s day isn’t until the 17th of March! Still, it was nice to be reminded of Field’s Irishness ☘️, albeit under British subjugation.
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Nu snap ik wel dat Clementi jaloers was op zijn leerling Field
Ik heb ook gehoord dat Mozart zelf jaloers was op Muzio Clémenti (iets wat ik niet kan controleren, maar hij zei toch niet veel goeds) Leuke dag
Une lettre datée du 7 juin 1783 et adressée par Mozart à son père , renferme une sortie violente contre Clementi , à propos de ses sonates. Een brief van 7 juni 1783, aan Mozart gericht aan zijn vader, bevat een gewelddadige uitval tegen Clementi over zijn sonates.
Niet zeker of Mozart jaloers was, ik denk dat het meer te maken had met karakter. Mozart had geen geduld voor hamerende pianisten en componisten die academisch, hoekig schreven. Mozart was aanwezig toen Clementi zijn Sonata in Bb Major No. 2: speelde en vond dat begin thema zo goed dat hij het gebruikte in zijn Zauberflote ouverture. Op een superieure manier natuurlijk. Het is nu een van zijn beroemdste melodieeen. Wat Clementi er mee deed in zijn Sonate was eigenlijk niets bijzonders.
@@bartjebartmans wel, wat vaststaat is dat clementi en Mozart niet zo goed met elkaar overweg konden. Maar dat weerhield hem blijkbaar niet om een thema uit de sonatines van Clementi te lenen. Ik vind trouwens dat we clementis œufre voor piano sowieso niet moeten onderwaarderen. Het waren een van de eerste stukken die ik kon spelen!
Geen sonatine. Lees mijn antwoord hier boven. Mozart gebruikte thema's van Haydn, Michael Haydn, JC Bach, Backofen enz. enz. soms compleet zoals het 1ste thema van zijn klarinet concert. Of hij ze mocht of niet maakte hem niets uit. Hij hoorde een melodie en had vaak betere ideeen dan het origineel, Haydn uitgezonderd.