Que bom que no final parece que deu tudo certo. Assisti esse video varias vezes e Eu acredito que o vento ou estava lateral ou caudal em relacao a montanha da decolagem.. Decolou muito bem numa bolha que gerou algum vento de frente. Apesar de muitas dessas regioes montanhosas o pessoal decolar de todas as faces da montanha no mesmo dia, no mesmo horário, eu acredito que nesse local, nesse dia existia uma direcao de vento que fez com que essa area ficasse totalmente rotorizada nesse dia ou pelo menos nesse momento do voo. Ele tentou se distanciar mas não conseguiu sair do rotor que estava muito violento naquele momento. Essa é somente minha opinião. Agradeço ao amigo por postar esse vídeo e desejo bons voos a todos! 🙏🏻😊🦅
Bem turbulento. É mais provável que estivesse mesmo numa área rotorizada. Outra possibilidade é vento não liso com deslocamento rápido de bolhas de um ciclo... Tomou inicialmente uma fechada pequena, mas ficou o cravete. Depois, tentando liberar o cravete deu vários puxões no lado esquerdo, a ultima bombada foi forte demais o que provocou o stall e colapso da vela. Deu sorte, ainda bem! Talvez um tenha faltado mais experiencia para analizar o rotor na decolagem e também para puxar a linha certa do cravete com mais calma, mas não acho que se deva culpar o piloto. Mesmo pilotos experientes as vezes entram em situação de risco e sofrem acidentes. Infelizmente, Paragliding é extremamente perigoso e muitos pilotos sofrem graves acidentes. Essa é a verdade.
Definitely bad weather conditions but this wing is too advanced for this pilot. Also I last year in Bassano I flew in similar conditions but with a Tequila 4 thankfully. The flight was a calvary but the wing held up well without major problems.
Michele Ren 1 hour before me my girlfriend flown with Tequila also...although see was new pilot see landed ok. If you haven’t flown a hot 2liner you couldn’t really judge;)
@@kiliascupra I absolutely do not want to judge. It is only my opinion. The fact is that under these conditions the pilot over not having assessed the conditions well before taking off and then did not know how to control or prevent the collapse of the wing.
@@micheleren1534 oh shut up… he was clearing a cravat and went through more turbulence… i don’t know the guy but I’d say neither do you so why comment especially if you fly a b wing…. He’s response was awesome throwing the reserve
@@AMJB100000000 Comments are open to everyone here. You shut up. And I repeat, this wing is too advanced for this pilot if he is unable to handle it even in adverse conditions. That's all.
@@micheleren1534 this video is educational for pg pilots and people like yourself with FA experience want to advise higher air time pilots what to do.. it’s abit rich
I now own this very glider (in the near future i will put up videos of it flying here in NSW Australia on my youtube channel). Just about to put a new lineset on it. I am no expert with the Boomerang, however, i have over 150 hours on the Icepeak and can sympathise as there is nothing worse than being in a situation where nothing is working and one is just waiting for "the moment of doom". It is an awful feeling. I was fortunate to recover from a bedsheet underneath me scenario with Icepeak and fly away, a situation i hope not to repeat with the Oxygen Boom.
Adam Edgar hope you to enjoy all your flights with the glider. If possible make a SIV ;) Icepeak was my favorite glider and made the best flights with it.
thanks kiias...just a couple of questions...how many hours was put on this glider before Charlie bought it? also, were you flying on bar just before that collapse?
Adam Edgar No more than 30 hours. I wasn’t flying on bar, the air was extremely turbulent, something that you can not recognize at the video. www.paraglidingforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=558673#558673
Do you think the glider would have still collapsed if you had been pulling hard on the rear risers instead of the brakes? A comp pilot who flies at our local site says that i should ensure that i mostly fly using the rear risers on this glider.
Yeah, when I read "boomerang" and "rescue landing" I knew this time it probably wasn't the pilots fault ;) I mean, you took off in shitty conditions, but apart from that...guess that's why we carry a rescue with us
And then it was the pilots fault after all... :-D Junge, die Kiste is einfach viel zu heiß für ihn... Sieht man doch allein daran wie komisch er dran rum zupft... Erinnert mich an meinen ersten Verhänger, da hab ich auch so gezupft ohne jeglichen Erfolg... :-D Der sollte niemals an nem Boom hängen, so einfach...
But answers are wrong. It’s impossible to know for sure but that kind of sudden violent collapse without some violent movement of the glider before usually are provoked by the pilot pulling the brakes or another line while using the speed system of the glider. It makes it loose stability. It was very windy and he was probably flying against the wind that’s what it looks like. So if I’m right this incident was totally predictable
What do you do if there are other pilots climbing up below you when that happens? How do you get out of the way and let them through, or do you all crash together?
Unfortunately midair collisions are not uncommon and can result in death due to tangles with the reserve and/or knocked unconscious. But generally you can get out of the way if someone is having problems near you
paragliding is fun - even more so when you attend training & learn/practice (lots of groundhandling too) - don't be afraid of the weather, respect it. Use your senses and visualize all the things that are happening all around you (the birds, fluttering leaves in the trees etc.) to help you read the landscape. In this vid, there were many indicators of potential for rotors in the path he was following. Don't be in a hurry to get a performance wing - ENB A's & low-end B's are great and will give you the flying experience you're looking for. I don't know the pilot but active flying, keeping the wing loaded without so much brake, reading the terrain better could have avoided the situation - but at the end of the day, he's safe and sound... hope you learned from this(?) happy flying my friend
It's really fun, until it isn't. Then your training or lack of it comes into play and allows you to later watch the playback and learn more, or it doesn't and you don't !
Je pense que le pilote n'as pas le niveau de cette voile. Il faut la laisser voler et moins beaucoup moins freiner. De plus, il ne faut pas s'acharner de cette façon pour ouvrir à gauche. Ce n est que mon humble avis. Bons vols
Does foehn generate severe turbulence at some height above the valley? I am interesting because I was in Gemona, 50 km to the west in this moment and there were absolutely normal flying conditions.
Thanassis Freezman The longer the foehn travels, the warmer the air may get. Usually the weather goes from west to east - so 50km east there could have been more violent updrafts from it...
Why fly with a comp glider if there is no one to comp with. I suspect a c or b glider would have been more enjoyable to fly with without feeling your missing out on the plus 0.5 glide ratio on full bar since there is no one compare with
1 hour before this flight in the same takeoff
czcams.com/video/CzuGlocrNdw/video.html
I know this guy from Greece. Now his wife let him to go only to children's parks.
xaaxaxxaxaaxaxa! 😂🤣
Well managed the situation my friend and landed safely ... wish you long and safe flights ;)
Hey could you hold the camera steady next time you do this it is really hard to watch.
Que bom que no final parece que deu tudo certo. Assisti esse video varias vezes e Eu acredito que o vento ou estava lateral ou caudal em relacao a montanha da decolagem.. Decolou muito bem numa bolha que gerou algum vento de frente. Apesar de muitas dessas regioes montanhosas o pessoal decolar de todas as faces da montanha no mesmo dia, no mesmo horário, eu acredito que nesse local, nesse dia existia uma direcao de vento que fez com que essa area ficasse totalmente rotorizada nesse dia ou pelo menos nesse momento do voo. Ele tentou se distanciar mas não conseguiu sair do rotor que estava muito violento naquele momento. Essa é somente minha opinião. Agradeço ao amigo por postar esse vídeo e desejo bons voos a todos! 🙏🏻😊🦅
Bem turbulento. É mais provável que estivesse mesmo numa área rotorizada. Outra possibilidade é vento não liso com deslocamento rápido de bolhas de um ciclo...
Tomou inicialmente uma fechada pequena, mas ficou o cravete.
Depois, tentando liberar o cravete deu vários puxões no lado esquerdo, a ultima bombada foi forte demais o que provocou o stall e colapso da vela.
Deu sorte, ainda bem! Talvez um tenha faltado mais experiencia para analizar o rotor na decolagem e também para puxar a linha certa do cravete com mais calma, mas não acho que se deva culpar o piloto. Mesmo pilotos experientes as vezes entram em situação de risco e sofrem acidentes. Infelizmente,
Paragliding é extremamente perigoso e muitos pilotos sofrem graves acidentes. Essa é a verdade.
Glider de ponta, muito acima da capacidade do piloto. Reagiu mal e acabou se afundando ainda mais no colapso. Vai cagar fino por muito tempo.
What a beautiful rescue-landing...
What do you mean? Couldn't see a thing! Not the glider-trouble, not the resque, and not the ground. What excatly was the beauty you saw?
Didn't look like a fun ride right from the start.
Μπράβο Ηλία. έδειξες φοβερή ψυχραιμία! Δεν ξέρω πως θα αντιδρούσα σε ανάλογη περίπτωση. εύχομαι ποτε ξανά...
Kobala Slovenia not Tolmin, quick response, frontal?
Definitely bad weather conditions but this wing is too advanced for this pilot. Also I last year in Bassano I flew in similar conditions but with a Tequila 4 thankfully. The flight was a calvary but the wing held up well without major problems.
Michele Ren 1 hour before me my girlfriend flown with Tequila also...although see was new pilot see landed ok.
If you haven’t flown a hot 2liner you couldn’t really judge;)
@@kiliascupra I absolutely do not want to judge. It is only my opinion. The fact is that under these conditions the pilot over not having assessed the conditions well before taking off and then did not know how to control or prevent the collapse of the wing.
@@micheleren1534 oh shut up… he was clearing a cravat and went through more turbulence… i don’t know the guy but I’d say neither do you so why comment especially if you fly a b wing…. He’s response was awesome throwing the reserve
@@AMJB100000000 Comments are open to everyone here. You shut up. And I repeat, this wing is too advanced for this pilot if he is unable to handle it even in adverse conditions. That's all.
@@micheleren1534 this video is educational for pg pilots and people like yourself with FA experience want to advise higher air time pilots what to do.. it’s abit rich
Μπραβο Ηλια,,,,.
What's the pitching sound means?
τέλος καλό, όλα καλά!
Let the glider flyyyyyy
Was the initial recovery action to clear the Cravat? Then why no toggling the stab line seen?
Wow I read that, thanks for reference and impressive story!
Που ειναι ? Ιταλια ή Ελβετια ?
Σλοβενία
2 liners glider is twitchy
Os que morreram não estão no CZcams para contar a história....
Mão de foca
Μπράβο Ηλία? Τις συνθήκες τις κοίταξες? Επικροτούν την ανοησία σου? Δεν καταλαβαίνω!
Για πες μου εσύ ειδικέ αναλυτή των βίντεο για τις συνθήκες που επικρατούσαν.
I now own this very glider (in the near future i will put up videos of it flying here in NSW Australia on my youtube channel). Just about to put a new lineset on it.
I am no expert with the Boomerang, however, i have over 150 hours on the Icepeak and can sympathise as there is nothing worse than being in a situation where nothing is working and one is just waiting for "the moment of doom". It is an awful feeling. I was fortunate to recover from a bedsheet underneath me scenario with Icepeak and fly away, a situation i hope not to repeat with the Oxygen Boom.
Adam Edgar hope you to enjoy all your flights with the glider.
If possible make a SIV ;)
Icepeak was my favorite glider and made the best flights with it.
thanks kiias...just a couple of questions...how many hours was put on this glider before Charlie bought it? also, were you flying on bar just before that collapse?
Adam Edgar No more than 30 hours.
I wasn’t flying on bar, the air was extremely turbulent, something that you can not recognize at the video.
www.paraglidingforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=558673#558673
Do you think the glider would have still collapsed if you had been pulling hard on the rear risers instead of the brakes? A comp pilot who flies at our local site says that i should ensure that i mostly fly using the rear risers on this glider.
Тот случай, когда у тебя камера не 360 и вообще непонятно, что происходит
get past my friend
Ничего не понимаю что там происходит, но зря он крыло сорвал! Лучше бы сразу летел спокойно на посадку, чем на запаске падать кто знает куда!
Yeah, when I read "boomerang" and "rescue landing" I knew this time it probably wasn't the pilots fault ;)
I mean, you took off in shitty conditions, but apart from that...guess that's why we carry a rescue with us
And then it was the pilots fault after all... :-D Junge, die Kiste is einfach viel zu heiß für ihn... Sieht man doch allein daran wie komisch er dran rum zupft... Erinnert mich an meinen ersten Verhänger, da hab ich auch so gezupft ohne jeglichen Erfolg... :-D Der sollte niemals an nem Boom hängen, so einfach...
Very good resolution. I don't know why happend that collapse. I think maybe you were having an excess of command?
Due to foehn wind
i wonder if thr glider is out of trim. conditions didnt look that strong
But answers are wrong. It’s impossible to know for sure but that kind of sudden violent collapse without some violent movement of the glider before usually are provoked by the pilot pulling the brakes or another line while using the speed system of the glider. It makes it loose stability. It was very windy and he was probably flying against the wind that’s what it looks like. So if I’m right this incident was totally predictable
What do you do if there are other pilots climbing up below you when that happens? How do you get out of the way and let them through, or do you all crash together?
NevilleStyke paragliders are easy to steer so if you're not in a crisis situation you can easily steer away from that area
Unfortunately midair collisions are not uncommon and can result in death due to tangles with the reserve and/or knocked unconscious. But generally you can get out of the way if someone is having problems near you
EN A bir okul kanadı ile uçmak, aynı koşullarda sonucu değiştirir miydi?
Man, you were extremely lucky
Damn that got real high real fast. Is that normal (I don't paraglide but want to get into it as it looks really fun)?
paragliding is fun - even more so when you attend training & learn/practice (lots of groundhandling too) - don't be afraid of the weather, respect it. Use your senses and visualize all the things that are happening all around you (the birds, fluttering leaves in the trees etc.) to help you read the landscape. In this vid, there were many indicators of potential for rotors in the path he was following. Don't be in a hurry to get a performance wing - ENB A's & low-end B's are great and will give you the flying experience you're looking for. I don't know the pilot but active flying, keeping the wing loaded without so much brake, reading the terrain better could have avoided the situation - but at the end of the day, he's safe and sound... hope you learned from this(?) happy flying my friend
It's really fun, until it isn't. Then your training or lack of it comes into play and allows you to later watch the playback and learn more, or it doesn't and you don't !
Crazy Greek
Só pela ação de tentar tirar a gravatinha vc vê que mal sabe o que fazer. Pode vender esta vela e comprar um Bolero 6.
tadim... um dia ele aprende... graças a Deus nao foi pior..
andre luis Fagundes exatamente
Je pense que le pilote n'as pas le niveau de cette voile. Il faut la laisser voler et moins beaucoup moins freiner. De plus, il ne faut pas s'acharner de cette façon pour ouvrir à gauche. Ce n est que mon humble avis. Bons vols
So don't buy one of those wings then
Well that looks like fun.
Good luck
What was wrong with the weather?
Foehn
Does foehn generate severe turbulence at some height above the valley? I am interesting because I was in Gemona, 50 km to the west in this moment and there were absolutely normal flying conditions.
CharonUA At the same day all pilots was flying normal to Gemona!
Thanassis Freezman The longer the foehn travels, the warmer the air may get. Usually the weather goes from west to east - so 50km east there could have been more violent updrafts from it...
Why fly with a comp glider if there is no one to comp with. I suspect a c or b glider would have been more enjoyable to fly with without feeling your missing out on the plus 0.5 glide ratio on full bar since there is no one compare with
Nobody on start. Too bad.
boom 11 for sale cheap ?
Mitchell McAleer it is already in the third owner...
Mai zbori Bomerang 11? 😄
m.czcams.com/video/49rfdb4T_NQ/video.html#searching
Tu vole avec trop de frein, ces ailes ne supporte pas un centimètre de frein
Крыло страшное вообще
oouuu!!!
thanks Bro nice video....
Before someone criticizes ...read the forum first....
www.paraglidingforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=542501#542501