Please keep doing ANY length videos. (Pref. long ones, ha-ha!) We/I always pick up tricks and tips from your vast knowledge over the years. e.g. 'anti-bozo', the correct way to fit a circlip, take your time, don't rush, think carefully about the problem, etc, etc.There are usually several ways to solve a problem. Many thanks, Max.
Max, that was brilliant. Olga the beast mowed through that bar like a lawn. And that stunning finish....seems like the soviets knew what they were doin. Very impressive.
I met a girl in St. Petersburg in 1993 at a military music festival (Edinburgh Tattoo sort of thing). She was in the Russian Navy gymnastics & fitness team. I watched this lass pick up a 1.5 Lada motor with her bare hands. She was about 6ft 2" and built like a fuckin cube. I was the only bloke that'd go chat to her. She spoke near perfect English. We shared many beers until the wee hours after the festival was done. What was her name? Bloody Olga.. 😂
She's alive and likes to eat metal. Very gratifying for you Max after a lot of dedicated work. New possibilities on the horizon for us viewers. Cheers and thanks.
Great Soviet/Russian wife 👏, dont let her get citizenship or she'll leave you 😉. Nice setup on the mill, ref stop blocks, great mill to run, whilst on another machine. Thanks for sharing
Back on track with your channel. The bigger the better, and this ole beast is a brute (@@)! Gone too be awesome to see what she will do next. Nice fit up on the face mill tooling. Bear in the US - Tx.
Nice work Max. Olga is an awesome machine. Your cutter worked great, cutting like butter. Beautiful finish. The Stanko is going to be an asset to your shop for sure. I can tell it will be a Workhorse!. Thanks for sharing the process. Have a great day.
G'day Max, playing catch up on video's ATM. Well presented video, like the fact that you show all the detail of the checking and the set ups. You can't beat rigidity when it comes to machining. Cam
G'day Max. Very impressive Horizontal Milling, & good looking chips. Reminds me of Dr Frankenstein when he started his Experiments. 😅😅😅 Should be good when you have a full machine going 😊
I have a 1965 Stanko tool room lathe and it is a fabulous machine although a previous owner had replaced most of the Russian contactors with German ones which have been super reliable.
You have to be careful Max, big cuts on the horizontal mill can become highly addictive. With the price of steel these days it can easily be more expensive than a Crack habit. The facemill you have looks very similar to a Sandvik R245 style. If it's anything like the Sandvik I think you will be happy with it. I have three of them (3", 4" and 6") and they are fantastic. They will hog out a wheelbarrow full of swarf in one roughing pass and then leave a mirror finish on the next finishing pass. Regarding the power drawbar you may want to use it for a bit and see if it grows on you. I added one to my Bridgeport clone and it was the best upgrade I made to that mill beside a DRO. My HBM came with one and it makes tool changes so fast and easy. I'm just setting my HBM up today to do a job that has 44 identical parts. For one of the holes I will be changing tools 5 times before it is finished. Without the power drawbar I would be looking to set it up on a different machine. Ken
Lol , the 6 or 7 ton of heavy plate up to 4'' that i have laying around should feed the habit ! I went for a 45 deg approach high rake cutter as i have a few plates to mill across . I might wait & see how the draw bar goes . What type of stud is fitted to your tool adapters ? Cheers 👍
6 or 7 tons of plate, a few boxes of inserts and you could be backfilling low spots in your yard with swarf. Not very cost effective but it would make a good video. Both the drawbars on my machines (Bridgeport clone & HBM) use a conventional threaded end (7/16" on the clone, 5/8" on the HBM) so I don't have to do anything to my arbors. I guess in your case it could be a problem if you can't get enough of the screw-in adaptors for your arbors. Ken
Hi Max, Olga is a bit of a beast aint she. I've had trouble with shell mills in the past, believe it or not I had a Sandvik one where the bore and the face were both out, really surprising considering Sandvik's reputation, it did the job but I had to take the high tip out as it was ruining the finish.
I see how you are...using the parting tool upside down. Does that have anything to do with the water rotating the opposite way down the drain in your neck of the woods? Good times! Always fun to watch Max.
Nice big mill, that was definitely a light cut for it, a decent horizontal/ vertical mill is something I would like but I definitely don't have the room, something like a Parkinson 2N with the separately driven overarm would be ideal. Bridgeport has to do for now.
Realy nice job all round showing the turning on lathe which I must say went way better than I thought as would have expected the cutter to be way harder than it was then mill out the slots and finally on to big OLGA as you call her and very impressive in dead just ripped metal off as though it weren't there thing I liked is when you say just going to nip up the cutter then you get out the cheater bar that cracked me up had a good chuckle i did Allow nice work now weight till next video to see it all set up with the cutting head on that will be impressive big Cheers from over other side of Aus top of Queensland just like the work you do no fuss just sort it and get it done Cheers
Hi Max,Regarding the clocking of the inserts in the face mill. If the inserts your are using are as sintered and not periphery ground it doesnt surpprise me that they were out that much. For improved surface finish and tool life you maybe should consider using fully ground inserts if they are available? Cheers Ian
Thanks Ian . I should mic them up just for curiosity . For the machining on the next few jobs , they will be ok . They gave a great finish on the 350 steel plate even though the chip thickness was at it's minimum .1 mm recommended by Kyocera . I will crank the chip thickness to to it's max of .3 mm & see how they go .
Hi Max, You are onto it as chip thickness is very important, expecially in materials that work harden. When I was working for Seco Tools I really enjoyed working with milling as there are so many variables with feeds, width of cut, depth of cut and a simple calculation in metal removal rate can tell you if you are moving forward or going backwards. The calculation for MRR is Q = ae x ap x vf divided by 1000 gives you MRR in cubic cm per minute. ae is width of cut, ap is depth of cut axial and vf is feed speed in mm per min. Q is of course the answer. Always good fun to do a calculation. Cheers, Ian @@swanvalleymachineshop
Olga works fantastic Max. Enjoyed all the machining set ups. I was surprised at the cutters tip heights being that far off. Are you going to check how straight the finished cut is against your surface plate/straight edge. Good stuff. Cheers Tony
Thanks Max, I wouldn’t have thought to modify the tool thinking it would be too hard. Is it normal to be able to do this or did you test the hardness before you started? On that what is a rule of thumb on hardness level for still being able to use carbide? Yes, I have a lot to learn! G’day from about 35km south of you.
I have a 5 in Lovejoy mill. It uses 1 in round disks, and has always done a great finish, but i can hear its bit off, I will check it like you did! Did you swap cutters like say put the 1.5 in the zero position?
No worries . I have shown it in older video's . Just clock in the machined side of the indexer in the horizontal plane , then the work in the vertical plane . Then check the work in the horizontal plane again . 👍
She's a beast of a machine, bit of a keeper is our Olga
Looks like a keeper ! 👍
Please keep doing ANY length videos. (Pref. long ones, ha-ha!) We/I always pick up tricks and tips from your vast knowledge over the years. e.g. 'anti-bozo', the correct way to fit a circlip, take your time, don't rush, think carefully about the problem, etc, etc.There are usually several ways to solve a problem. Many thanks, Max.
No worries 👍
Max, that was brilliant. Olga the beast mowed through that bar like a lawn. And that stunning finish....seems like the soviets knew what they were doin. Very impressive.
It is a solid bit of gear . Did not even leave a mark when the feed kicked out on the stop . 👍
I met a girl in St. Petersburg in 1993 at a military music festival (Edinburgh Tattoo sort of thing). She was in the Russian Navy gymnastics & fitness team. I watched this lass pick up a 1.5 Lada motor with her bare hands. She was about 6ft 2" and built like a fuckin cube. I was the only bloke that'd go chat to her. She spoke near perfect English. We shared many beers until the wee hours after the festival was done. What was her name? Bloody Olga.. 😂
Lol , reminds me of my wife ! 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop😂
She didn’t even leave a dwell mark where the feed kicked out..
Impressive.
Rigidity and power, nice.
You can just pick it if you look close with a torch . It's absolutely nothing . Surprised the heck out of me . 👍
Olga’s a girl not to be messed with. 👍👍
I won't argue with that one ! 👍
You have the most calibrated eyes of anyone I’ve ever seen. The way you “eyeball” things within a thousandth. Very impressive!
Does not always happen ! 👍
The scary part is after 6 great northerns he gets it within a tenth 😂
An oldie but certainly still a goodie! 🙂
Thanks , i hope so ! 👍
Olga is a SWEET old Girl !!!!!
That she is . 👍
very good video friend Max
Thanks 👍👍👍
Nice to witness the first chips in a long time.
And in the same time you did find a good way to make mirrors..
Unbreakable ones at that Rusty ! 👍
Thanks Max, nice to know it is hot out there, while I sit here in the frozen UK.
We are in an unusual heat wave . 41 C in the shop yesterday ! 👍
She's alive and likes to eat metal. Very gratifying for you Max after a lot of dedicated work. New possibilities on the horizon for us viewers. Cheers and thanks.
No worries 👍
Great Soviet/Russian wife 👏, dont let her get citizenship or she'll leave you 😉.
Nice setup on the mill, ref stop blocks, great mill to run, whilst on another machine.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks 👍
Olga's a bit of a beast ;) Glad that the Bridgeport was tied up :)
Thanks 👍
Olga, masseuse of metal.
Lol , Cheers 👍
Gday Max, I don’t think it knew it was doing a cut, great job, cheers
Just idling along Matty ! 👍
Olga in beast mode. Love it.
A sleeping giant awakes ! 👍
Looks like OLGA is a keeper !
It is looking that way . Early days yet ! 👍
Back on track with your channel. The bigger the better, and this ole beast is a brute (@@)! Gone too be awesome to see what she will do next. Nice fit up on the face mill tooling. Bear in the US - Tx.
Thanks Bear 👍
Another awesome video young max. Thank you from kiwi land
Cheers 👍
Nice work Max.
Olga is an awesome machine.
Your cutter worked great, cutting like butter.
Beautiful finish.
The Stanko is going to be an asset to your shop for sure.
I can tell it will be a Workhorse!.
Thanks for sharing the process.
Have a great day.
Thanks 👍
Nice setup Max. I’m betting you’ll get a lot of use out of Los Olga. Very nice! Cheers,
She will be busy over the next month . 👍
Early Morning Max. Nice work as usual. Cheers
To escape the heat for a while , started 3:30 am this morning ! 👍
Nice work max , that mill is a monster ! Good to see it upband running , the finsh was fantastic too .
Thanks Shane . Long time , no hear from . 👍
Olga did'nt even raise a sweat!! i love it when one machine is making parts for another in the shop.
Thanks . All my machines seem to make parts for each other , or will soon ! 👍
That machine motored through that like a knife through butter.👍
Like there was nothing there ! 👍
G'day Max, great stuff buddy, Olga certainly still has it! Nice work as always mate, keep cool over there, I'm just putting the heating on lol
Lol , we are still cooking , may get 44 or 45 mid week ! 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop Stop showing off 😂
Nice one Max, I could almost smell that cut from here. Cheers, Jon
Cheers Jon . No scraptonium too big now ! 👍
That was impressive Max.
Thanks 👍
G'day Max, playing catch up on video's ATM. Well presented video, like the fact that you show all the detail of the checking and the set ups. You can't beat rigidity when it comes to machining.
Cam
No worries Cam . Cheers 👍
good on ya Max you bloody legend!
Cheers 👍
Looking great Olga!
Thanks 👍
Olga strong!
Just a bit ! 👍
As we say in South Africa ..... Russian machines...."vat geen kak van kabouters nie!" Nice one Max!
Lol , Cheers 👍
G'day Max. Very impressive Horizontal Milling, & good looking chips. Reminds me of Dr Frankenstein when he started his Experiments. 😅😅😅
Should be good when you have a full machine going 😊
Should stack up ok against a wRong Fu ! 👍
What a beast!
Thanks 👍
Thank you Max!
No worries 👍
thats a beast of a mill max ! and a nice finisch to !
cheers ben.
Thanks 👍
I have a 1965 Stanko tool room lathe and it is a fabulous machine although a previous owner had replaced most of the Russian contactors with German ones which have been super reliable.
I have a spare main electrical box that came with the machine . There is a lot going on electrically speaking . It has semi auto functions as well . 👍
Horizontal spindle is driven by 7.5kW motor. That drawbar system on USSR machines are wierd, but that was a those age solutions.
15hp ( 11kw ) on the main spindle . Yes , a wierd set up for the draw bar .! 👍
Hey Max, nice one. I know the feeling with the Huron and having the grunt to rip the material off.
She has some balls ! 👍
Looks like Olga needs a shot of vodka to celebrate. 🍸
Or 3 !!! Cheers Tom . 👍
Enjoyed!!!
Thanks Chuck . Just been watching your rotary table video . Cheers 👍
impressive! That will earn it's keep for sure.
Thanks 👍
You have to be careful Max, big cuts on the horizontal mill can become highly addictive. With the price of steel these days it can easily be more expensive than a Crack habit. The facemill you have looks very similar to a Sandvik R245 style. If it's anything like the Sandvik I think you will be happy with it. I have three of them (3", 4" and 6") and they are fantastic. They will hog out a wheelbarrow full of swarf in one roughing pass and then leave a mirror finish on the next finishing pass. Regarding the power drawbar you may want to use it for a bit and see if it grows on you. I added one to my Bridgeport clone and it was the best upgrade I made to that mill beside a DRO. My HBM came with one and it makes tool changes so fast and easy. I'm just setting my HBM up today to do a job that has 44 identical parts. For one of the holes I will be changing tools 5 times before it is finished. Without the power drawbar I would be looking to set it up on a different machine. Ken
Lol , the 6 or 7 ton of heavy plate up to 4'' that i have laying around should feed the habit ! I went for a 45 deg approach high rake cutter as i have a few plates to mill across . I might wait & see how the draw bar goes .
What type of stud is fitted to your tool adapters ? Cheers 👍
6 or 7 tons of plate, a few boxes of inserts and you could be backfilling low spots in your yard with swarf. Not very cost effective but it would make a good video. Both the drawbars on my machines (Bridgeport clone & HBM) use a conventional threaded end (7/16" on the clone, 5/8" on the HBM) so I don't have to do anything to my arbors. I guess in your case it could be a problem if you can't get enough of the screw-in adaptors for your arbors. Ken
Hi Max, Olga is a bit of a beast aint she. I've had trouble with shell mills in the past, believe it or not I had a Sandvik one where the bore and the face were both out, really surprising considering Sandvik's reputation, it did the job but I had to take the high tip out as it was ruining the finish.
You would expect Sandvic to get it right ! This was a cheap & cheerful Tool master brand , would have been a surprise if they were all even ! 👍
Great vid Max,very impressive machine from the look of the finish it gave. Be great to see Olga rip out some big chips, thanks again mate 👍
No worries . 👍
Very nice machine
Thanks Adam . 👍
Olga has balls
15 hp size ones ! 👍
I see how you are...using the parting tool upside down. Does that have anything to do with the water rotating the opposite way down the drain in your neck of the woods? Good times! Always fun to watch Max.
Lol , water still runs down hill here ! No , you can push it harder & does not chatter . 👍
Max -- '' Olga '' done good. _ Jim
Cheers Jim 👍
Sounds like Darth Vader is looking over your shoulder.
Lol , Cheers 👍
Nice big mill, that was definitely a light cut for it, a decent horizontal/ vertical mill is something I would like but I definitely don't have the room, something like a Parkinson 2N with the separately driven overarm would be ideal.
Bridgeport has to do for now.
Thanks . I was after a Parkinson No 2 universal , they do not pop up that often & i have run out of room ! 👍
thanks for posting
No worries 👍
Give her the beans
Once i get more familiar with the electric controls ! Only need light clean up cuts on this material for the next project . 👍
Nice!
Cheers 👍
A walk in Gorky Park for big arse Olga…..then she says….
“You’re not finished yet “
She did not even get out of bed ! 👍
Max you always put on good show Thank You.
No worries 👍
Olga is a beast!
For sure 👍
Realy nice job all round showing the turning on lathe which I must say went way better than I thought as would have expected the cutter to be way harder than it was then mill out the slots and finally on to big OLGA as you call her and very impressive in dead just ripped metal off as though it weren't there thing I liked is when you say just going to nip up the cutter then you get out the cheater bar that cracked me up had a good chuckle i did
Allow nice work now weight till next video to see it all set up with the cutting head on that will be impressive big Cheers from over other side of Aus top of Queensland just like the work you do no fuss just sort it and get it done Cheers
Thanks 👍
Hi Max, have to be careful with the rapid feeds on her, one wrong direction and you know what happens!
My worst fear is a contactor switch sticks ! At least there is an E stop . 👍
Always enjoy your videos, thanks
Cheers 👍
Frist chips for the Stanko 6T83W Milling Machine, getting closer and closer to laying down that Turcite Wear Strips on the HBM. things are going well.
Getting closer ! 👍
Nice Ruskie machine, thanks for the look
No worries 👍
its a beast
It is ! 👍
Hi Max,Regarding the clocking of the inserts in the face mill. If the inserts your are using are as sintered and not periphery ground it doesnt surpprise me that they were out that much. For improved surface finish and tool life you maybe should consider using fully ground inserts if they are available? Cheers Ian
Thanks Ian . I should mic them up just for curiosity . For the machining on the next few jobs , they will be ok . They gave a great finish on the 350 steel plate even though the chip thickness was at it's minimum .1 mm recommended by Kyocera . I will crank the chip thickness to to it's max of .3 mm & see how they go .
Hi Max, You are onto it as chip thickness is very important, expecially in materials that work harden. When I was working for Seco Tools I really enjoyed working with milling as there are so many variables with feeds, width of cut, depth of cut and a simple calculation in metal removal rate can tell you if you are moving forward or going backwards. The calculation for MRR is Q = ae x ap x vf divided by 1000 gives you MRR in cubic cm per minute. ae is width of cut, ap is depth of cut axial and vf is feed speed in mm per min. Q is of course the answer. Always good fun to do a calculation. Cheers, Ian @@swanvalleymachineshop
> nice going max test cut successful its not even beer:30!
I was into overtime , cracked a coldie as soon as the cut was finished ! 👍
Olga works fantastic Max. Enjoyed all the machining set ups. I was surprised at the cutters tip heights being that far off. Are you going to check how straight the finished cut is against your surface plate/straight edge. Good stuff. Cheers Tony
Thanks . Will not be checking anything for these parts , but will do test & accuracy cuts at a later date when time permits . Cheers Tony 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop Spot on Max. Love your approach to situations.........Tony
Oh Max like shit off a shovel! Catch up soon
No worries . How is your big one going . 👍
👍
Cheers 👍👍👍
Interesting machine, Max. If the electricals are working, why would you want to get rid of the features?
For when they stop working in the middle of a job ! 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop do you expect that to happen? This is supposed to be a heavy industrial machine.
@@melgross Old electrics . At least i have a spare complete control cabinet . I have to run the machine as it is at the moment . 👍
Thanks Max, I wouldn’t have thought to modify the tool thinking it would be too hard. Is it normal to be able to do this or did you test the hardness before you started?
On that what is a rule of thumb on hardness level for still being able to use carbide?
Yes, I have a lot to learn!
G’day from about 35km south of you.
They are machinable , they have a bit of hardness to them though . Just a quick check with an ordinary file will do . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop thanks for replying Max.
I have a 5 in Lovejoy mill. It uses 1 in round disks, and has always done a great finish, but i can hear its bit off, I will check it like you did! Did you swap cutters like say put the 1.5 in the zero position?
Tried rotating the inserts , did not think to swap them . Thanks 👍
Hi! If it's really soviet mashine, look in it. There must be "chekushka" ;-)
Yes , CCCP on the tag ! 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop Workers drank in Soviet workshops. "Chekushka" is 0.25 liters of vodka.
@@ttnd3d_387 I could just imagine it ! 👍
Hey Max, could you do a video on how you tram in that indexing head? I've seen a few ways but I'm curious about your take.
No worries . I have shown it in older video's . Just clock in the machined side of the indexer in the horizontal plane , then the work in the vertical plane . Then check the work in the horizontal plane again . 👍
Hong f**k Wong, what a pearler.
Lol , 👍
0lgas a hell of a girl. Hope the beer is cold
Always cold , all year round !!! 🍺🍺🍺
Weirdly enough, I've never heard Russian-speaking milling/turning CZcamsrs referring their machines by a first name, it's always 16К20 or НГФ110
Now you have !!! If i had the lathe i wanted , it would be called Ryazan IM63 ! Cheers 👍
Some of My parts are smaller than your chips 😂
Half the stuff would get lost if i tried making a clock , unless it was Big Ben size ! 👍
I have been to Russia many times don't upset Babushkas Olga it does not pay dividends
Kit from Queensland
Lol , Cheers 👍
You mean Russian electrics are somehow worse than Lucas electrics?! That is unpossible.
The ''Prince of Darkness '' gets around a bit ! 👍
Thanks for the view and your time.Always enjoy the learning!
No worries 👍