SHOP MADE TOOLING . MACHNING HEAVY DUTY LARGE VEE BLOCKS . Part 2 .
Vložit
- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- We continue machining our shop made Vee Blocks .
Milling Machine & Shaper work .
ANCHORLUBE is now available here in Australia . See below for links .
murphybrothers.com.au/
www.ebay.com.au/usr/monkey313 - Věda a technologie
Sometimes the shaper is the perfect tool for the job and set up is easy and straight forward. Other times it's just a bastard to set up and machine. That's why it's nice to have a shaper, vertical mill, horizontal mill and eventually horizontal boring mill. With those machines and a bunch of tooling a guy would almost never be beat no matter what came through the door. Ken
Cheers Ken . Nearly all bases covered , Need to get the HBM sorted ! 👍
I love being in the shop with gramps learning stuff. If I ever grow up, I want to be like GrandMax.
Lol , Cheers 👍
love the contrast of Olga and the chamfer tool. everything working harmoniously.
Thanks 👍
Great seeing that chew through the flame cut. I just bought my third clamping set Thanks Max for showing that you have at least five. Now I don't think I'm crazy. I can get more.
More the better ! Cheers Randy 👍
I am up to 4 sets myself. 😀
Hi Max, respect to the shaper, but what a pleasure to see you taking the mighty Olga to the dancefloor ! Cheers
No worries 👍
Well g'day Max, up at 4.00am with the guts, settling down to watch this, as the sun comes up, thanks for sharing buddy 👍
Cheers Ralfy 👍
Even though the shaper didn't pan out, it was really interesting to see the two approaches setting up these parts. Lots of great tricks. Also amazing to see such a massive milling machine table be adjusted so minutely to 'split' the sharpie blueing!
No worries 👍
Don't worry Max, Big Olga's got this one...did a super job!🤠
Thanks 👍
Love how Max has a way of cutting though the B.S. Cheers
No worries 👍
Hi from hurricane ravaged Nacogdoches, Texas. We lost power for only two days. We’re playing in our shop. Beautiful work. Gives me something to try, although not at your quality.
Thanks . We do not get the hurricanes like you get over there . 👍
OLGA OLGA OLGA!! Love the shaper, but its out classed. Only by the tooling, that extra long bit was also flexing
Cheers 👍
Great setups and process Max, love those Gudgeon Pins, definitely larger than I worked on in my motorbike days.
The Zocca will have to wait a bit lol.
Thanks for sharing
Cheers 👍
Hi Max, Olga to the rescue, brilliant setup with the Gudgeon pins.
Hear the aircraft in the background, now they are killing long knecked turtles on the runways and taxiways, read it on Perth Now this morning.
Thanks . That is sad about the turtles . 👍
Good video Max, always good to see how people approach jobs, for me I still have my double Vee blocks I made in 1979 in the toolroom I worked in as a nipper,
I would have used 45/90 as many many jobs have a 90 in them.
I get the "content" part with the shaper as I used to plane the crust off a lot of forged IMPAX at 16 on the shaper "to a chalk line" drawn by the foreman lol
For me I would have done the big faces "flat" then blocked the 3 big sides off the bed with the face cutter as a pair and clocked then off ground Tee Slot slips we used to tap in the t slot as a guide.
Looking fwd to part 3.
Thanks . 45/ 90 can be more useful at times , these are mainly for holding larger earthmoving pins . Cheers 👍
I love the fixturing.
Cheers Rob . I will ring you this weekend . 👍
Anther cracking video showing a very old dog new methods (to me) 👍 cheers from Scotland 🏴🥃
Thanks 👍
Thanks Max!
No worries 👍
Thanks for the link for Anchorlube, I've been trying to get some into WA for over 6 months now, with no luck . . . . 8oz pot on the way as we speak ! Ripper. Just gotta remember to be neater about cleaning up after using it, as I believe it discolours machined surfaces pretty badly . . . .
No worries . I have not experienced the discolouration yet . 👍
G'day Max. Excellent video on the setting up on the Mill & Shaper. Both machines perform well according to the setups, with good results.
I realise you wanted to play with the great refurbished job on the shaper, But .. lol 😆 🤣 😂
While all the setups etc were in Olga, wouldn't it have been quicker & easier to use the Horizontal Spidle to finish the sides ?
Great Job Max. Well Done
Ted
Always quicker in the Mill . 👍
olga to the rescue !
cheers
ben.
Yes 👍
Was looking forward to this 2nd part & eagerly awaiting part 3.
Wouldn’t mind making some V blocks for the Bridgeport myself - but although they might look simple, this is proof that they aren’t & based on recent days results just starting out with the Bridgeport - it’s evident my skill set is a long ways away from doing this kind of work yet.
Hopefully some new inserts & torx screws out of Germany might fix my face mill screw up. 🙄😂😉
Lucky it was only a test part. 👍
Lol , it happens ! 👍
Great video Max 👍Thank you - Mike in Loving,Texas
Thanks 👍
Enjoyed
Thanks Chuck 👍
Plan A (with the shaper) was a grand plan, but plan B got the job progressed... Thanks to Olga :)
Cheers 👍
Max, your setups are always top notch! I learn a lot from your approaches around the shop. Thanks for the great videos!
No worries 👍
lessons learned thanks Max
No worries 👍
Hi Max, Olga saved the day... Well I'm confident an appropriate shaper job will come along when all is sorted.
I'm having good results with Anchorlube thinned about 50%
Cheers.....
Cheers Dean . I will try the thinned Anchorlube . 👍
Thanks for the look and education!
No worries . 👍
*_I have V blocks to make yet myself. Now I know how to do them. The dychem trick was priceless._* 👍👍👍👍👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣
No worries 👍
@ 23:24 Very fine steel wool 000 grade, hold a match to it and it will burn. I am currently buggering around with some for a fireworks effect😊 and having one myself, beer is. Cheers mate.
No worries 👍
very good job friend Max..thanks for your time
Cheers 👍
OLGA does not care how that steel was cut , Just bring it on , awesome !
She will just go until something breaks ! 👍
Thanks Max. A great double-header; double the fun, double the pleasure. Two more beers, and you got another dance with the lovely Olga. Cheers
No worries 👍
Nice looking disc's. Have great respect for machines & hydraulic lift cranes with A leaking piston need to be reported .
Cheers 👍
G’Day Max, that last setup was an interesting way of getting symmetry. Glad I saw that! 👍
Thanks 👍
Thanks, Max. Appreciate the ride along.
No worries 👍
Great stuff young man .
Cheers 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop hi have you changed your number?
You got that blend spot bollock on (as we used to say). 🙂
Thanks . 👍
Indeed, shapers are not ideal to deal with hard spots in the material.
Cheers Rusty 👍
Great job Max, it just goes to show there are more ways of skinning a cat! Love those great big gudgeon pins, they're from a seriously big diesel engine!
Thanks 👍
Max, I've got a couple questions that came to mind while watching:
1. When you were blending the face mill cuts on the V-surfaces, you did it by trial & error (and got amazing results too!). Would it ever(?) be useful to use a depth gauge/mic to measure the difference between the two surfaces?
2. Did you show the details of the hone set-up on your South Bend? Did you build it or buy it? What "search terms" should we use to find that type of honing disc?
3. This isn't a question, but while Anchorlube is great cutting "fluid," I *think* that someone like Joe Pie recently posted a video showing what happens to steel items if the Anchorlube isn't cleaned off of them after the cutting is complete. Whoever posted that video was clearly unhappy with the, I think, damage caused to the steel parts/tooling.
You could use a depth mic but it would be way too much mucking around to get the same result . You would have to use trig as well . I intended to show the lapping set up , but forgot ! Will put it in the next video . I have had no issues with Anchorlube staining parts , but i will do some more testing on that one . Cheers 👍
Ah, the trials and tribulations of a jobbing machinist/engineer(I share your pain😜)!
TBH I think the issues with the hard spots on the cut edge of the material, kinda sums up the issues with shapers(they're handy but limited and slow)😕 - I know you rightly wanted to play with it after renovations(I would too - I've a 14" Ajax shaper that I haven't used in 25yrs of ownership) 😊
IMHO - using flame cut plate wasn't the best choice for precision jig tooling(so many rolled in, geometry and flame cutting(thermally) induced stresses), that the tooling will deform as it ages. - maybe normalising of the material should have been the first process🤔?
Good old Elga to the rescue🤗!
BTW You don't see many Elga's about(I have an Elga Jig Borer from the 1980's which I'm planning to CNC convert, as it has ball screws on the table axis, and scales already fitted - one of about two hundred other jobs/projects to do)🤪. They're a very good quality machine to have.
👍👍
If you’re in Queensland and want to sell the shaper let me know. I’ve been chasing one for 3 years. 👍
@@davidcat1455 I'd happily sell it to you, but I'm in the Highlands of Scotland!!
Cheers.
👍
@@craigywaigy4703
Yeah transport might be an issue.😃 It’s a great place, Scotland. I spent a couple of weeks in Pitlochry ,went horseriding above Loch Tay. There was still some snow at our elevation, but you could see people waterskiing on the Loch.😂😂😂
@@davidcat1455 Aye, shipping might be costly, and the Houthis might sink her enroute!! ;)
Pitlochry is very picturesque, hence Balmoral being in that region - That whole lowlands area in and around Perthshire is essentially Scotland's breadbasket...
Keep safe and well. .
I always use flame cut plate due to cost & convenience . I know it does come with issues though . Cheers 👍
I love fly cutting on my little CNC but yep it's slow.
No worries 👍
Love the deburring tool.
Massive time saver & does a great job . 👍
Part 3 coming soon!
Soon 👍
Looking good Max, I need to make a set for myself in amongst all the other jobs.
When time permits ! 👍
Thank you Max!
Cheers 👍
Bang up job mate , you , Matty's workshop and Cutting Edge Engineering rock all the other channels are shiit
Not all of them are CNC & product placement, Josh Topper has a proper job shop, even if Max Matty and Kurtis are the holy trinity from down under 🙂
Thanks . Don't forget David Wilks 👍👍👍
Looking nice!!👍🏻
Very spiffy dust coat ! Next will be a bow tie!!
And the Bowler hat ! 👍
Thanks 👍
Grate example of a method of work
Thanks 👍
Very interesting.
Thanks 👍
Good morning
Thanks 👍
Thx for the vid.
No worries 👍
A chunk of hardwood would do wonders in the vise.
Only for lighter operations . Cheers 👍
The shaper fixturing was interesting, especially using the gudgeon pins for setup, was it me or was the automatic lift kicking in part way though the return stroke?
The auto lift is late . You need a fair bit of a longer stroke to fully clear the front . 👍
You need one of those Wire EDM machines from China.
I know someone up the road that has one ! 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop hah! It would've made short work of those vee blocks.
Nice job in the end
Have to say Sorry but I would have never attempted that in the Shaper just like the finish of the mill and such over shaper not a big fan of them have no drought they have the place in the shop but wrong choice for this job all good in the end
Cheers
Thanks . Have to push the machines boundaries with some jobs to see how it reacts . The face mill is always my preferred option though . 👍
Hello, would you consider hardening and grinding the v-blocks, or would they warp too much?
My grinder is not running yet . I might just get them nitrated .👍
👍👍😎👍👍
Cheers 👍👍👍
Great Video MAX: Do you have a link to that lapping plate you made for the South Bend? I can't seem to find it.
No , i made it off camera . I just used an old MT 3 boring head adapter & bolted a disc to it with a couple of real earth magnets . Hardest part was when i super glued my fingers to it , would have been hilarious on film ! Cheers 👍
Max,a question if it's okay? To keep the best accuracy on the v blocks will you turn 180 in place or will you turn them 180 and and swap ends with them? Left to right and right to left? Or would it make a difference? Hope I saying things correctly. I liked the blending procedure with the magic marker.
Turn them 180 , locating off the Vee . The ends are not that important , but i would like them somewhat symmetrical . Cheers 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop thanks Max.
Babushka Olga earned her Vodka you were bit hard on the Brazilian you no what there like down under .
Kit from up north
Lol , the shaper may get a second chance with the bases ! 👍
Machining is almost an oxymoron process, the largest machine makes the most precise parts.
Yes , 👍