Australian Reacts to El Alamein Mission - CoD Vanguard - Historical Accuracy Breakdown
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Sorry one more thing Stens at El Alamein good lord no I could go on but It's bringing on the hernia. Also not only is The volksturmgewehr way to early it is only semi auto and is interpretated incorrectly it's the Volksturm(People's Storm) Gewehr (rifle)
Not assault or storm rifle like the STG44. This rifle was being given to basically home guard AKA the Volksturm they ain't getting the top of the line STG44. sorry rant over. P.s the equipment worn through the mission is beyond dogshit.
Sten SMGs were not used in North Africa because of being made entirely by Sheet metal.They used Thompson instead COD 2 did this excellently.There weren't any sten in COD 2 North Africa.But COD Finest Hour had but that we played as SAS
The gun at 27:09 is the Charlton automatic rifle basically what happens when you convert a bolt action(lee enfield) into a full auto machinegun.(That thing is real and it looks absolutely bonkers)
Also aussies didn’t use the No. 4 enfield
the grooves in the lee enfield is correct for the no.4 modeled, however the aussies wouldnt see the no.4 until 1944, it should be a no.lll SMLE but its not
@@user-ro9zf9kz1h *lee metford
The American soldiers in WAW were way more aggressive than the aussies in vanguard, you can hear the soldiers swearing almost constantly. The aussies in vanguard are so censored it’s hilarious, after researching about Australian troops fighting against the Japanese, the Japanese were terrified of them. There’s a video about a Japanese veteran recalling his experience with the aussies and he talks about them in such high regard, how one soldier charged at them with a handful of grenades and started chucking them everywhere.
For every "wanker" or "damnit" there should be two or three "cunt"s a "fuck" and at least two "goddamn"s. Also agree that "fuckwit" was sorely under utilised.
@@TheSimpleMan454 for real, I’ve seen footage of Australian troops in Afghanistan, they literally shouted at this farmer saying “get that cunt on the ground” and whenever he didn’t listen they would shout “get down cunt”, the Australian special forces don’t mess around
@@jonathanmccleery6892
haha yes, war crimes
The Chad "TAKE OUT THOSE FUCKING PT BOATS!"
Vs
The Virgin "Get that wanker!"
@@tk5800thesecond ah yes i remember that video too, i think is called "the killing fields" right? "YOUWAN METOKILL DISKUNT??????????""
the deciding factor of the Allied success in El Alamein in 1942 was Australian troops equipped with their newly adopted service rifle: the Steyr AUG
The main reason that American forces were able to punch through the Japanese island defenses during 1943-1945 was the tank that had just come into service: the M1 Abrams.
And the name of that M1 Abrams? GEORGE WASHINGTON.
I thought it was saved for tank crews, because it’s full name is Australian Utility Gun
@@silasisaspicyboi7458
It's _Armee-Universal-Gewehr_ , so it has to be used by everyone in the universe.
@@CruelestChris hmmm why it sounds Germany
"We need to protect the tanks from the RPG's!"
Its lines like these that showcase how dense the developers were and how little they asked of actual historians or combat specialists and the like. "We need to protect the tanks from the heavy infantry!" "We need to protect the tanks from those panzerfausts!" "We need to protect the tanks from the infantry! They have heavy weapons!" "Enemy Anti tank unit! Protect the tanks!" "Panzerfausts! We need to protect the tanks dont let them get close!"
Also pretty sure the dude fired a bloody panzershreck and not a faust and I dunno but I think at this point those werent around yet.
ya, the Panzerschreck was reverse engineered off American bazookas that were captured in Africa. Highly doubt they had either those or the panzerfausts yet at this battle.
Don't forget panzerfaust can be reloaded in vanguard... *SOMEHOW*
@@Juozapas001 wait, a single shot disposable at gun can be reloaded? First how?secondly why?
Something that I think I'm the weird person about because nobody else seems to mention it, but in most terrain, infantry are absolutely not protecting the tanks. The tanks protect the infantry. If there's a gun emplacement firing AT at a tank, it's normally 300m - 1km away. Infantry can't hit shit at that range and the tank is what takes it out. It's only in close quarter urban combat that infantry are really supporting the tanks, and even then, more often than not the infantry has it's own problems to worry about. Sure there may be 2 or 3 guys who can hit the tanks and do anything, but there's probably 30-40 guys who can fuck you up as a random dude on the ground. I want to see one of these missions where every time a panzerfaust or an rpg (for modern games) is fired at a tank, the tank just turns and completely fucks up the guy's position if it lives. Like the panzerfaust shoots at the tank from a second story window, then another tank from further back in the column just shoots HE into the building and blows it the fuck up. There's the tank mission in WAW where the player is doing that, but I want to see more games where the main job of the infantry is to keep up with a tank that's lazily moving along mowing people down, and if the tank gets too far ahead, enemies start coming out from the sides with mines to try and place them in front of the tracks.
@@alexandreogrande2100 i have no idea, but they've made 'em reloadable, check for vids here on the platform
47:11 - I just don’t believe for a second that a British officer would actually do that in WW2. Tear down an allied nation’s flag that is, least of all a Commonwealth one. He’d get an absolute hiding from the higher ups for a start.
I get that they’re looking for a villain but it’s a bit stereotypically ‘Mel Gibson’s Gallipoli.’
“These [bush] rustics are so inept…”
He wouldn’t get an absolute hiding from higher ups because he’d get beaten into a bloody pulp before it ever got that far.
If anything they would have flown the Union Jack alongside the Australian Flag.
I think this was probably a reference to Monte Cassino where the Poles flew the Polish flag from the ruins but then were told to also fly a Union flag alongside it, I think it's because Allied commanders assumed quite a lot of Allied troops would not know what the Polish flag looked like, but would have known the British flag and thus easier to identify, but from what I've read, the Polish flag stayed.
I'm pretty sure this was added to make the British look incompetent or downplay their role in WW2.
Yeah, I think it was just Vanguard being Vanguard and inserting a very anachronistic point about privilege and classism. Take a posh English officer with apparently no leadership qualities and make him an absolute dick to anyone not his class or nationality, a trope more in place in the Sharpe novels or something set in the Boer War (Basically at any point it was still possible to purchase a commission).
Like I have no problem with showing Aussie pride but this just shows us brits as villains when it’s the fucking nazis that were apart from a very few specific instances we loved the commonwealth were where very grateful for commonwealth aid he’ll Indian gerkers were some of the best of the entire war.
The immersion doesnt come from the accuracy of the period rather its the pain they felt recreated when you see a 100 drum mag on a bren
Which doesn't even look big enough to hold the said 100 rounds... of... .303?
The sad thing is that 100 round mags for the Bren did exist, but those were pan magazines (like the ones on the Lewis and the DP-27).
But hey, instead of doing a little bit of research, Sledgehammer would rather reuse the fictional drum mag from COD WWII instead lmao
@@YellowDogWithCone
As I recall, hardly ever issued and only used for AA mounts, though, and only early-war Brens could even mount them. Not that I'd think this thing would care about that.
Poor boi. It was torcher.
The drum mounts are featured heavily during the sas campaign in cod 3
alcohol left around Canadian troops will also disappear but for entirely different reasons. alcohol will be taken and traded with dry and over supplied American troops for gear that actually works.
A Korea veteran i used to work with at a museum, once told me a story about how he and some guys from his unit traded a jeep trailer full of Canadian army whiskey for a trailer full of M1 Carbines and ammo.
That level of Awesome with alcohols being swap for different goods and whatever is that is a classic and perfectly awesome way that the free market can continue to operate within the framework of total war as it operates in democratic free market economies. Need all sorts of things to win Wars and the fact of the matter is to that booze to the infantry is like sex to the Navy, it is a necessary component in the supply chain and if a nation state running a total war economy fails to provide well the free market or call it a blue market blue is always a good guys will provide. Supply Sergeant quartermasters in different branches of the military's and from different nations in in an alliance always done this sort of thing to smooth out the supply chain issues. They get away with it because senior officers amongst the biggest clients get away with moving a lot of deer around when everything is recorded in triplicate where is the paper trail and as long as it's done the war that paper trail is not a problem however when people start in riching themselves on the taxpayers' dollar then that becomes treasonous and assisting the enemy and times of Total War that sort of things doesn't go down very well for anyone that is caught doing it that's the sort of thing that gets you shot or hung if you're in uniform no you're a civilian doing it then depending on the severity may cause natural death of natural causes unnaturally or you may become the poster child for cooked for breathe and walk property when all the previously mentioned paperwork that isn't a problem just landed on the desks or safes prior to discovery after extraordinary and dedicated investigators and Forensic Accountants painstakingly followed elaborate paper trails that lead to a war profiteering traitor who's greed is depriving our soldiers at the front from the war material they need. A total war is usually for national and if the letter of the law has to be bent and twisted to keep the spirit of the law alive which is the functioning of society which that moment is engaged in a total war voting for national survival let it will be done to keep inflation minimum and sustain war effort and that's will be done. Total war between nation States is not just people fighting each other it is the entire economic system of a nation vs another where destroying the Enemies industrial capacity killing their soldiers they're all just parts of the main products of which and Nations state engaged in total war is producing. The product which is the destruction of the Enemies will to keep fighting. It's ya inflation is a really key thing, Total War economy inflation represents an increase in the price that products and if the increases price of that product increases to a point which is beyond what the nation-state is willing to pay, the war ends.
There is an excellent old story from Korea about a Canadian trading a few mickeys of whiskey to an American unit for a decked out officers trailer and a truck to haul it.
They actually depicted this in an episode of M*A*S*H!
26:14 "What have you done!? WHAT have you done!? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY BREN?! YOU MURDERING VANDALS!"
Absolute gold, that thing is soooo cursed and I hate it, not to mention STG44...
These guns creators: *they never seen such bullsht before*
I am willing to bet good money actual rape would have offended him less. I sympathize with though. Had about the same reaction to the Type 99 rifle .
Wow the pain in his voice wow just wow
@@Not_MissHinayep no respect for fans and historians
In the COD Finest Hour PS2, if you use the scoped Mosin Nagant, when you reload, it only can insert one bullet a time, due to the Scope blocking it. But if you use a normal Mosin, then you can use the usual 5 round striper clip..
Talk about small details in old games
I never noticed that when I played Finest Hour, I mainly always focused on difficult parts.
I should plug my PS2 back in to play it again.
@@richardtouchstone5508 the Scope Nagant only available on the Tanya mission. The sniper lady.
That's been a staple in a lot of older WWII FPS games. Scoped bolt actions generally reloaded one bullet at a time, while unscoped ones used stripper clips.
Same in World at War.
Also, *reload a Lee Enfield via Magazine*
The MG42 in Vanguard in missing the muzzle piece by default and it hurts me. All of the guns in Vanguard hurt me greatly.
(It’s almost like they put people who don’t like guns and know nothing about them in charge of the weapon design)
I believe that the muzzle piece also allows the gun to cycle properly.
they cant fuck up the m2 browning right? RIGHT?
@@tarektechmarine8209 you are entirely and completely correct. So what the weapon designers did, basically, is they created a bolt action MG42...
MarksmanRex yes, without it the gun will not be able to function properly
Michael Any other year I would tell you they couldn’t, but here we are
If you haven't already would love to see your reaction to the Australian Mission from BF1
Yesss
Yes yesss!!!
Aye
Omg that would be content for sure and one key obvious factor to point out would be the campaign isn’t even set in the same place as where the ANZACS landed on Gallipoli
Easily my favorite mission from Battlefield 1, I would love this.
Im happy that we aussies got the spotlight for once but the thing is the main character is based off a New Zealand solider who actually did these things.
It’s a shame they didn’t add the kiwis. I would’ve loved another COD3. Multiple nations and no linear story.
@@dominicc3521 dont worry they'll add Maori character next game.... in a mission in Soviet Union.
@@FatGouf too right mate 😂
I don't get why they decided to make him austrailian, did they think NZ wouldn't be recognized by a global audience?
@@samsacrepair559 who tf knows
If his infuriated after seeing the STG44, volksturmgewehr and Bren. Imagine him seeing the Type 11 lmg with red dot sight and drum mag and the mirrored Owen gun with a scope mount and a drum magazine.
They did fucking WHAT to our Owen Gun!?
@@joshrobins130 Mirrored so it's left handed , put a reflex sight if I recall correctly , and gave it a drum mag that'd make the Tommy gun blush.
It was almost impressive how much they butchered it. And I say that as a Canadian.
Bit disappointed the Kiwis aren't mentioned especially the Maori Battalion who fought with our Aussie brothers, another black mark to add to Activision among the many already added
Especially when you consider the fact that the Australian protagonist is inspired by Charles Hazlet Upham who was a kiwi
At least Australia is mentioned in Cod games. Canada never is in any media.
@@ZacharyDarkes Cod 3 there was a Campaign dedicated to Canadians in Normandy
@@rileyhofman8027 Ya that was the only game to give us any credit what so ever.
“Us”? Bro, unless you’re literally 100 years old, you didn’t do shit in WWII. You deserve no credit.
I wonder how the general reaction would've been if this was advertized as a fictionate, alternate history view of WW2 and it's weapons and gear. Hell I wouldn't mind fighting dieselpunk roller or spider tanks, and I've always had a fascination of seeing ww2 weapons on those sci-fi settings. Sort of like Resistance: Fall of Man. Or hell, even Red Alert.
Yeah, but unfortunately, it was advertised as a historically accurate game, a statement that they quickly tried to backpedal right after the game launched.
I'm guessing someone has beat me to this in the comments already, but I had to weigh in. The Lee-Enfield depicted in the game is a No. 4 Mk. I. You are correct that it should have an aperture sight, but the more glaring mistake is that it shouldn't be there.
The No. 4 Mk. I was introduced part way through the war to replace the SMLE (AKA the No. 1 Mk. III). The No. 4 was not used in North Africa to my knowledge (Maybe in Tunisia). It was certainly not produced or adopted by the Aussies, who chose instead to stick with the SMLE. Also, the grooves in the handguard are correct for the No. 4. They just only appeared on some of the rifles.
Edit: Also also, I don't *think* they would have Stens. Probably still Thompsons at that point.
The only reason I can think that the Lee Enfield would hold 5 rounds is that soldiers would usually only have 5 rounds loaded before battle to reduce stress on the mag spring. But even then they would usually slide in the extra 5 just before seeing action. Not sure how accurate or common this was though.
I've read they would load a clip, fire a couple of rounds, load another clip and then empty it all, cause having 10 rounds would be too much on the spring and would get stuck, so they would keep at most 7-8 rounds in the rifle
That was only on the earlier versions, by 1942 that wasn't a problem
@@franciscosansalone2319 oh right, tho if it doesn't have spring problems, it still has sand problems, that stuff gets literally everywhere
@@joey_ramone_96 Darth Vader wants to know your location
@@joey_ramone_96 I think the problem is that, they are firing off rounds, then he gets down to like 2 bullets, and instead of loading an entire clip and having 7 rounds. You now have a clip with 2 bullets which they didn’t have an animation in game for
When i comes to the iconic Lee-Enfield rifle you said the golden words, "I've fired this gun". One way I know that can help developers make firearms accurate is to go to a gun range and if possible hold and fire the guns they plan to put into a game. That way they know how it looks, feels, and more importantly functions. However the more i look at this game the more i can tell these People never really looked at a firearms in their life let alone shoot one. Hell they probably have a panic attack just by holding the damn gun.
Not only that, they didn't even bother to do any kind of research on the guns at all. In the multiplayer, I can ignore it. Sure, it's absolutely fucking ridiculous and stupid that I can have a Garand with a drum mag or modern optical sights on a fucking Luger, but it's multiplayer so historical accuracy goes out the window anyway because no one actually plays it historically. But I expect this shit in the goddamn campaign at the very least. Seriously, STG-44's in 1942? You're not even trying, the clue's in the fucking name, dickheads! RPG in World War II? Where the fuck did they get a time machine so they could go into the future to learn that term?
Fuck me, this game just makes me wish for the days of World at War, back when they actually gave a shit. This crap isn't just stupid, it's straight up disrespectful.
I am one of the lucky people I own one.
They did it for Modern warfare and nailed that on the head.
@@joshburke4083 Because they actually cared to tell a authentic story , that scene with young Frarah and the revolver still kills me when I play it. When she picked up the gun I had to pause the game because all I thought was "oh my god she can't even hold the gun".
I was going to make a joke about Girls Frontline doing more research than this game...but then remembered that they DID do their homework for that game and then some, for a game about waifus with guns there are a lot of details for gun nuts to enjoy (including M1 Garand's attack sounds including the PING).
36:26 - those 40K sized AA guns (yes, they actually existed) are deployed in a manner to protect against high altitude strategic bombers, hence the crashed B17. They're pretty much useless against the low level tactical airstrike that came in, especially with the canyon walls. The first bombing run could have taken them out in seconds.
43:18 You wouldn't be wrong. They just threw in Ogryn weapons in WWII. 😆
Historical accuracy wasn't the only thing with a breakdown during the video.
I love his restriction to CoD messing up historical accuracies 😂 most people like to not swear because of CZcams and keep the rage to a minimum but this guy just can’t control the rage. Like myself a brit with a huge huge huge interest on ww2 and aviation. I despise inaccuracies and ever since CoDWW2 they have just outright given absolute disrespect to the war itself
It's like on purpose like none of these weird drum Mags,Sights were in CoD WW2 at all.And CoD WW2 kept all Uniforms accurate regarding time period, Front,And Surrounding
I mean, the grand had a mag attachment… So it’s still not super historically accurate but I won’t lie, haven’t played this game and I already know that it ain’t worth my time and even if it was fun it takes a shit on the real stories of soldiers just to sell this trash heap. What a load of shite and gravy
Why even make a game on ww2 if you aren't even going to try? I mean I know it's COD but holy shit they didn't give two shits with this year's COD
When they picked up that “definitely a Bren gun” I just heard that one meme of the drill Sargent just saying,
“What is that? What the fuck is that?!”
When the Itra Burst showed up on screen I thought of that one scene from a mafia movie where the guy goes
"The fuck is this piece of shit"
- 1:13 - Maj. Homms seems to have an 1870s-style white Martini-Henry ammunition belt for some reason
- 6:00 - The grooves on the No.4 rifle are accurate. I have seen them before. But my biggest gripe with it in game is that Commonwealth forces in the Western Desert would’ve still been using older ‘snub-nosed’ SMLEs. Especially the Australians who would’ve been using Lithgow made SMLEs until 1945
- 17:00 - Even though the Sten was in service at this point, the M1928 Thompson was still the standard SMG for the 8th Army in Africa and would remain so well into the Italian Campaign
- 20:00 - There were a couple USAAF heavy bomber squadrons attached to the Desert Air Force but they flew B-24s, not B-17s. Also that B-17 appears to be in bare metal aluminum, which wasn’t standard until mid-1944
- 26:15 - There was a 100+ round drum for the Bren but it looked nothing like this and was always tripod or vehicle mounted
- 36:00 - the VStG was semi-auto only
- 36:30 - The Afrika Korps still mainly had MG34s although they had a few MG42s at this point
Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk III* to be precise
I Agree. Though the grooves in the No.4 seem to very depending between models.
@@Autobotmatt428 I have a no4 mk1 * and have a mate with a no4 mk1 and both have the grooves all of them I've seen in person do have no clue what for though hahaha
I feel like the B-24 never gets the spotlight in media
@@kezza9301 The standard method for carrying when moving was with one hand, just ahead of the breech. The grooves are to give better grip when carrying in this way.
I bet someone has already written it, but here it is:
The Volkssturmgewehr is not an assault rifle. The german word can be a bit confusing cause it has "Sturmgewehr" in it, but thats not how you seperate that word. Its "Volkssturm-Gewehr" better translated to "rifle of the Volkssturm". Oh and it wasnt vollauto, just semi.
Semi-auto... with 10 round capacity i think? Not STG44 mags iirc? Could be wrong on that... then again it can beta-C twin drum mag in vanguard :D
@@Juozapas001 Nah, it did use STG mags. Afaik those were literally the only magazines for 8mm Kurz produces in any numbers.
The worst part is how you see a Volkssturmgewhr here but almost none at all where they would have been most "common" The Battle of Berlin! This game acts as if almost every other German soldier had one despite the fact that very few were made and it was ment as a last ditch weapon.
Dumb weapon presets since COD 4 i think...? More like MW2 now that i think about it, russians with kriss vectors, TAR-21s and whatnot... as you can see that nonsense persisted till this day...
@@Juozapas001 In Modern Warfare it's atleast acceptable seeing as we are in an alternate timeline when WW3 is happening and the great story and gunplay distracts You from those kind of innacuracies
I stayed up late to see an Australian man have an existential crisis while also trying to praise the good in something absolute trash. Fair
Surprised you didn't comment on that whole "Tank Battle" itself. Everything is happening RIDICULOUSLY WAY too close!
Ps- Also the whole Ruins section in this mission is also very "Huh?!" for the most part imo. I'm not entirely sure, but there shouldn't have been anything like that in the El Alamein area. Definitely never seen any photos of such expansive ruins that's fo' sure!
Seems the talent-less writers of this didn't understand the difference between operation crusader and operation torch so they just kinda merged it all into one big middle finger toward the British (it's like someone really had a fucking hatred on the writing team for the WW2 brits )
Also yeah judging by the crusaders slowly rolling toward up-gunned Panzer 4's i know who i would put my money on
They wanted to create El Alamein but instead created kassarine pass
@@KelgorothTheFinalShape except kassarine was just one big open valley where flak 88's got to practice their marksmanship.
They just copied and pasted the CoD 2 Big Red One Casserine Pass mission
Interestingly War Thunder has ruins on its El Alamein map as well iirc
How come no Italians are shown in this mission. They were there and if I’m correct even the bersaglieri and folgore were in contact with commonwealth troops.
They disregarded a lot of different nationalities, in a World War Two game.
In the campaign there’s no French, Polish, Italian, New Zealander, Chinese, or Czech.
Basically the campaign can be summed up with fighting Germans and Japanese with stunning historical inaccuracy
@Kieran Walsh the guy you play as in the first mission was a Czech. But he never speaks, and hes quite litterally the only one in the group who wasn't given a backstory so he might as well not been there.
@@kieranwalsh2058 hell in big red one you literally fight the Vichy French and Italians before you ever see a German
26:15 as a Czech viewer, I agree with your pain.
For context, the Czechoslovakian Vz 28 LMG was the father of the Bren gun. I could be wrong, but I'm sure that the British bought a license to produce a modified version, which was the Bren.
Bren is actually an acronym (is this the right word?) for the names of two cities, Brno and Enfield.
I think you meant the ZB-26 and ZB-30. Wz/Vz 28 is a polish version of the BAR.😀
@@Barabel22 yes, sorry, I do mean the ZB vz. 26. That's how we named it. Thanks for that.
your correct on the license purchase and the acronym.
It’s was modified quite a bit due to the want of the British cartridge which due to the specifics of it a lot more things needed to be changed to acomidate it but overall yes it is based of the Czech design
The chinese army both PLA or Kuomintang those in sino wars
That sound of the Lee Enfield.
Poof, click click. Poof.
Its not a .22 pistol, its not a small firecracker for children.
It´s a .303 Bolt Action Rifle that goes BANG click click BANG.
Its almost like this sound is supposed to go with a somehow ´silenced´ version of the Lee Enfield.
modern videogames are all about guns being bassy and low pitched because... um i dont fucking know
When you titled this as a "breakdown" I wasn't banking on you meaning an *emotional* breakdown.
Neither was I my guy... but here we fucki'n are.
Mate listening to your commentary it makes me proud to be an Australian.
And yes as a former infantryman I can attest to the frequency and eloquency of our usage of "Fuck" and "Cunt" in our vernacular. In fact I have yet to meet anyone yet who can swear with the talent and ease of my old platoon sergeant. He can use "Fuck" as a verb, adjective, noun and pronoun in the same sentence. He was a fucking legend.
Man I remember watching early development videos of Medal of Honor and COD 2: Big Red 1 and how in-depth they went with authenticity of the weapons (Brought in weapons experts to fire them, recorded the sound, reload and accuracy of the gun), Briefings (Literally had historians help with story), sounds and basically everything. Now all we get is some half assed money grab with shit story, shit accuracy and everything thrown in to "Create a better experience". Just remake Big Red 1 and stop shoveling out bullshit.
Big Red One is the best and most underated COD made
@@SnowPlough45thanks for mentioning the game
Yes thanks for mentioning the game
Animarchy needs an Emotional support MP40 or a Lee Enfield SMLE at this rate...its worrying...
also, the way he emphasizes **"we have POLYMERS!!"** made me laugh lol
Nah if he had any firearm with him while watching vanguard gameplay he would've shot himself 5 times over
Great video man.I’m happy you broke down everything in this mission.it’s actually pretty Good to know that aussies get what they deserve,recognition
43:50 you telling me your grandfather never got a 7 killstreak and pulled out the warmachine?
I have a hard time believing even a British General would be dumb enough to rip down the Australian flag in front of the Australian troops in WW2, I find it WAY more believable that he'd tell a clerk to do it at night, when everyone is asleep...
Finally, Aussie historian triggered
The Volksturmgewehr was never a full auto gun, it wasn't a assault rifle and it was a last ditch weapon for the Volksturm, so it's a gewehr for volksturm.
Yeah, it's quite literally in the fucking name of the gun! It's THE weapon for the civilian resistance against the Allied assault, only to be used in Germany after everything else failed.
There must be someone in Sledgehammer that really hates British weapons.
In WW2: lee enfield loads 10 rounds by inserting one clip through it's scope and bren gun shoots and reloads like a rusted truck.
Vanguard: Lee enfield has fucked up sights, only gets 5 rounds and bren has it's sights bugged out.
Sledgehammer hates the British entirely, because if you notice, other than some of their weapons and tanks, they're completely absent from the game. Why? Because Bri' 'ish bad.
@@TR33ZY_CRTM And when they are present they are chopped up and carboard cut-outs of real life British soldiers who's stories are far more inspiring than the ones in the game. One thing I also noticed in the D-Day mission, almost all of the NPC British soldiers have non-British surnames, whereas the Soviets, Americans and Australians have names that are common in their homeland. Like what?
@@Frserthegreenengine they also made the only British main character a black guy because inclusivity and gave him the credit for a bunch of other feats done by real British soldiers
COD world at war had different reload animation to M1 Garand.
If you do partial reloading, it will manually eject the current clip first, then insert a fresh one.
If its a full reload, then it's the usual auto eject PING
The M1 Garand can ping by shooting or pushing the bolt in the right backwards.
The partial reload kinda don't exist to M1 Garand without pressing the eject button near the rear site and you don't put bullets after pushing the bolt backwards. So it is safe that this part is accurate in World at War, but it is often strange that you shoot 2 bullets and the clip is complety empty after ejecting it just to insert a new clip that are filled with it. World at War almostly did it right if it weren't for the empty clip ejecting after 2 shots
Edit: Also, M1 Garand will eject one projectile before ejecting the clip. That also doesn't happen in World at War. So its another thing that I putted in the spotlight because many people often mistakes with WaW M1 Garand being 100% accurate.
One thing about the animation of the Lee Enfield that bugs me as a bit of an SMLE nerd is that he palms the bolt when cycling it. He should be using his thumb and index finger to create a sort of ball and socket joint as this speeds up firing, again (similar to your point about staying in the sights) This method was also a part of the Mad Minute training standard.
Just to note, 'Mad Minute' isn't a real thing, shoukd watch British Muzzleloader's video which breaks down the so called 'Mad Minute' over a set of videos and actually how the training undergoes
@@cameronevans4635 I am aware of that, it is more of a colloquialism for the standard of British rifle training. I believe the term actually comes from the record set by an officer in the early 1910s iirc.
while these are Rifle No.4s, yeah it irritates me that they unsight to cycle and palms it. The "sawed open" aperture also irks me greatly.
@@barrag3463 The only justification for those sawed open sights is cqc . But at that point as a Commonwealth soldier I would have switched to a sidearm. No point in butchering my rifle's long range capabilities to gain knife fight ability so to speak.
Something similar to how soldier holds smle in battlefield 5, right?
I'm pretty sure that our diggers used the MK III* Lithgow variant in the African campaign rather than the No.4
Yeah, we had No.I Mk. III* SMLE's all through from 1911 to the late 1950s, only time No. 4s were ever issues to Australia's were to use as auxiliary rifles with AWAS on homefront and seen only used outside of Australia in Papua with 2/7th Calvary during the beachhead campaign (Buna, Gona Sanananda) in late 42'
Ye I thought that too this game is shit though
26:15 for the BREN, the worst is that a 100 round drum did exist, but it looked a bit like a vickers K drum, not whatever that is
it needed a special bracket to be fitted to the gun (which conveniently was issued with each crate of 4 drums) and was only meant for anti air watch as it obstructed the normal rifle sights of the bren, requiring the use of the anti aircraft spider sights. it was a real piece of kit that was really issued in WWII but instead they gave us whatever that is
"Why does this lee enfield only have a 5 round mag?", I think you missed where it had three rounds in, put a 5 round clip in, and got back to 5 rounds, because reasons
In its defense, the character does only push the proper amount of rounds out of the stripper clip into the magazine then pulls out the unused rounds. Though this argument is no different than a defense attorney arguing for a murderer lol
A question I bet no one asks, how did the Germans get those Flak 88's up onto that hilltop and into those cramped ruins?
Good question maybe in EAs vision the German parachuted them down
German engineering
Kraut space magic.
Magic.
Helicopters? (which the Germans technically invented later in WW2 and technically fielded at some point somewhere during WW2, which for EA makes them fair game!)
Nice bit of made up history there at the end, why would a British officer pull down an Australian flag, it’s an empire flag. Seems to me like pandering into myths of Australians been treat like this within the Empire’s military. Considering the white dominions were equals, self governing with their own militaries and officers it just wouldn’t have occurred. Also Australian identity was still forming, like the vast majority Australians to this day are only four or five generations at max from there British (Irish included) ancestors, unless they are natives or migrants from elsewhere.
The Aussies were known for upholding their honor ever since they caught their own German tank in WW1
this kind of thing did happen. British officer and higher ups had big issues with aussie troops. it was so severe they wanted to court marshal and execute some to make an example of them (something they did with other commonwealth allies) but the australian government forbid it.
@@solreaver83 the thing is they portray the allied British commander as hating Australians despite the fact he grew up in Australia, said the Australian troops were some of the bravest in the world and lived in Australia after retiring as well as saying Australia was his true home
This is just a tactic from activision to make the British look bad
He'd only ever do it once
9:12 slight correction, you actually CAN aim down the sights while bolting with the snipers in Vanguard (I don't play, but I've seen gameplay). the only reason the player doesn't is because its a gamer's tactical advantage, videogame statistics usually say you run faster while not aimed down sights, so just a little thing
doesn't mean the other 900 billion things are excusable though
24:39 Something important to note is that most Italian soldiers didn't really want to fight in the first place. They thought Mussolini was an idiot, So surrendering was leagues better than dying for a leader who never cared.
Dad had bad asthma as a kid and spent a lot of time in hospital an old Italian man used to look after him taught him a lot about shooting & hunting etc.
We only found out at Joe’s funeral that he’d been in the Italian army during wwii.. for about a month the minute he walked in to the front line he threw his rifle away and walked to the Australian lines 🤣 he hated Mussolini and wasn’t going to fight for him.
Rommel himself actually held a pretty high opinion about Italian soldiers. Something about terrific men wasted on horrific officers.
It's the RPG comment that still gets me. For those who don't know, RPG originally meant ручной противотанковый гранатомёт (Ruchnoy Protivotankovyy Granatomot), meaning Handheld Anti-tank Grenade Launcher and eventually, the translation Rocket Propelled Grenade followed, making "RPG" a backronym. What makes the usage of this term so wrong is that the first Ruchnoy Protivotankovyy Granatomot (RPG-1) only started its design by 1944 whereas RPG-2, which actually went into circulation, was used beginning 1954. So, the term RPG was never used in 1942, much less in the North African setting.
I think the word they will say is bazooka or panzershreg to call this rocket launchers
@@Not_MissHina Exactly. I will never understand why the developers decided to use RPGs over Panzerschrecks, Panzerfaust, or even Bazooka.
It's _possible_ that's not the etymology since we do have publications that referred to bazooka rounds as both "rocket-grenades" and "propelled hollow charges," but still, nobody's going to be shouting about RPGs in this period. Particularly since nobody had them yet.
@@CruelestChris which kindof makes sense considering the similarity between a bazooka projectile and a rifle grenade.
I'm with ya on the Bren Gun. It was a top loader, not a side loader. There's no way an MG 42 Drum mag would even work.
The 42 had a 50 round drum but it was more a belt holder
The lee enfield in the campaign is just a reskinned kar98k and as a fellow Australian i feel your pain as well
And imagine, that you did not see a panzerfaust, which is possible to reload here... I almost died, when I saw that.
As a Brit the treatment of the Lee Enfield disgusts me you ain't the only one bothered by out of sight rechambering of a round.
24:58 love how he’s not even touching the item…he’s just has his hands out not touching anything
God I love these videos, the Aussie way of breaking it down sits much better with me
Just started watching these and this channel and I’m at a point where I laugh whenever he pauses because I already know what he’s going to address. Also learning a lot too
Wait until he finds out about the reloadable Panzerfaust
Panzerschreck you mean?
If so I feel hollow inside
@@aidenhay3162 no no I think he means Panzerfaust
@@aidenhay3162 the Panzershrek is reloadable
@@aidenhay3162 I mean the *PANZERFAUST*
7:50 RPG mention, well before RPGs were invented
40:35 Those are MG3 belt boxes. holy shit
10:57
Also, the character cycles the bolt while looking down the sights at 10:57
So I've watch two vids and I'm hooked on your content! Good stuff!
I will say that I remember reading on a few occasions that the reason for the 5 round capacity was to save the life of the return spring on the Lee. I'm unsure what version that was specified to but from first hand experience, I would have as much ammo as I could properly carry in a combat zone.
Glad to see your continuing this series. Also, the Australian history was extremely interesting to an uncultured yank like me.
8:46 I like that he didnt noticed that the player reloads at 3 rounds left, and the game puts a full 5 round clip in it XD
Subbed... Best take on Vanguard on the tube! absolutely brilliant!
In COD Finest Hour PS2, during the 4th Soviet mission only tho, there's a team of MG42 that each carry the gun and bipod separately.
If if we shit one of them, the other will retreat..
There's even the animation when they deploy the gun, and when one shoot the other will seems like holding the bullet belt...
Again, sadly this never seen anymore from future installments...
Fuck I loved that game that final bridge mission was a blood bath as well as protecting that fucking SPG
The bridge was a fun blood bath that stupid fucking SPG was not fun at all
Ah yes,Finest Hour. Interesting game. Kind of a shame it suffers from Enemy At The Gates Syndrome though.
@@ft5821 wym
@@yanisbaker881 basically the Staligrad segments of Cod1 and cod finest hour ripped off scenes from Enemy At The Gates,a movie that was also set in Stalingrad and had inaccuracies such as "the man with a rifle shoots,if he dies another picks it up and shoots"
@@ft5821 well much like Medal of Honour Frontline which copied the first Omaha mission from Saving Private Ryan..
Its kind of a thing for FPS game to be inspired from movies back then..
Even now, some games still use popular movies as inspiration for certain scenes or missions in game..
"If the Lee Enfield only has a 5 round capacity, I'm coming for you." This is the company that added the DMR class of rifle to Cold War for no reason, then put 2 assault rifles in it for no reason. Sure the m16 would have been a burst rifle at the end of Vietnam, but the AUG, the other assault rifle they put in has 2 firing modes. Semi automatic with a partial trigger pull, and fully automatic with a full trigger pull. There is no burst variant of the AUG and the advantage of the bullpup design is that it maintains full stopping power while being more compact for close quarters fighting. AND THEY FUCKING MADE IT A BURST DMR WITH WORSE HANDLING THAN AN AK-47!
3 assault rifles actually, the Type 63 irl is select fire, not just semiauto
You can pull the bolt on the Lee Enfield while aiming down the sights, the person who played it just wanted to go in and out of the sights each time he unchambered a cartridge
You are frickn hilarious on your reactions man, keep up the good content 😂
Your Little Kuriboh Freeza impersonation was pretty damn good!
At 19:13 you can see, that you can actually aim down sights when operating the bolt.
But in games you don't want to do this - you move slowly when ADS plus your vision is smaller.
26:10 that right there Is a new Zealand Charlton automatic rifle
Okay fun fact about Montgomery he loved in Australia in his childhood and had great respect for the Australians
The guns in this game hurt my poor little german soul. Especially the Volkssturmgewehr. The thing in the game has about fuck all in common with the real one. It's not an assault rifle. The real one was a semi-auto last-ditch rifle, VG1 and 2 were even bolt action. It's not the Peoples Assault Rifle, though word for word it would translate like that. The Volkssturm was a homeguard militia, though Volkssturm sounds better in propaganda. These guys were not assaulting american or russian positions. The ppl who used this were not all soldiers, though some veterans were around. Funny enough, thanks to german doctrine we hadn't had too much of those who were still in fighting condition. If you could reasonably fight, you were at the front. It's not an assault rifle either. These things did not go to the front, let alone really leave the country. They were guard weapons essentially. Cheap crap just about good enough for purpose. And there wasn't the one VG, there were 5. they were designed to be made cheap, fast and to the companies strengths. Gustloff produced most of them in the end, I think. At least the semi-autos. And I don't say they were absolute dogshite, us germans knew a thing or two about making guns, it's just that these things were not designed to have a multi year service life in active combat units. They were not made that way. I mean in the end we even made the K98 with a laminated wood stocks. Which is brilliant for accuracy and sturdyness actually, should've done that earlier. And to find the STG44 at virtually every corner just hurts. Yes, it was a brilliant thing, it just was too little, too late. If we had had those in '41, oh boy, we would've torn shit up even worse than we did with our K98s and MPs. Let's just say I think Stalingrad wouldn't have taken a month and we could've, maybe, made it to Moscow. Though an actually reliable heavy tank we could actually produce in reasonable numbers would've been more helpful in that regard.
Yeah if the Germans had the technology they had in '44, they most certainly would have caused more damage in all fronts of the war, they would still lose regardless though.
I can hear the tortured scream of transmissions matched only by the broken wail of depressed mechanics through that last sentence.
huh, i always thought that we had the slouch in the hat because it was easier to aim down the rifle sights with out the brim getting in the way. Also i do admit that having the slouch hat like that makes it easier for people who haven't seen the aussie army before to recognise them.
God, I was hoping you'd review this lol.
Oh god, the Bren killed me... And the gun you hate has the Lee Enfield mag, but double the capacity lol. They found a way to fuck up a magazine twice in the same mission.
29:20 Okay, not only was that a damn good Frieza impression, but bonus points to you for using a line from the Abridged series :D
@Animarchy
As far as I’m aware at least a few Mark IV “Specials” were engaged and destroyed by 239 Bty., 76 A/Tk REGT. at Outpost SNIPE.
As well, your BREN-rage fills the cockles of my heart with warmth and joy.
Thanks for your help, by the way; got excellent info with more coming (incl. the recently-released history of the STO Wing if you’re interested).
Never mind. The supplied "history" is a two page pdf with about two sentences on actual development.
Y'all do swear alot, and that's one of the reasons I fucking love working with y'all more than any other US ally.
Funny how in every other WW2 COD except for Vanguard had STG 44 only started to appear in 1944 only.Even In Original COD,COD2,COD3 we had Lee Enfield with 10 rounds.And even COD WW2 as well.
And honestly I expected Vanguard to be a huge improvement over COD WW2 considering Vanguard came after WW2 but how come Vanguard is even Worse BF5 and COD WW2??????.
Like how is this supposed to happen.Remember how much of an improvement COD WaW was compared to Big Red One and COD3.
Like why are you guys going backwards.
And pls react to last Mission.
The old games were made by different people is why. COD 1, 2, 4 and most of MW2 were made by Infinity Ward, who is now known as Respawn Entertainment, with some staying behind and making Infinite Warfare and MW2019. COD 3 and Big Red One were made by Treyarch and they've always had the more gritty, emotional storytelling down. COD Vanguard was made by Sledgehammer, AKA the guys responsible for every increasing disappointment since MW2. MW3 which coasted off of the series success and was not nearly as good, Advanced Warfare, WW2, Vanguard. All of them are Sledgehammer, which leads to the inevitable conclusion that Call of Duty itself hasn't gone downhill, more that they have a development team that needs to be let go. Black Ops 3 and 4 weren't the best thing in the world, but they were by no means bad and they're the worst that Treyarch has put out.
@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen by the way majority of Ex Infinity Ward developers who were at Respawn are at back at Infinity Ward .Now Besides 2-3 Infinity Ward developers at Respawn most of them are back at Infinity Ward.
@@ChandranPrema123 I guess the recent developments with their IPs getting shat on and thrown into the bin, replaced by Apex Legends had a hand in that.
@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizenthanks for mentioning those old games
@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizenno respect for fans and historians
Just got recomended this video, guess because I like anime and History. As a Kiwi it's cool to see some mention of the ANZACs. Keep it up mate.
26:28 For the record, there was a 100 round drum magazine for the Bren but it was a horizontal pan magazine similar to the one on the Vickers K which would've been a more fitting choice than the German style drum that they went with.
Yep that is true
Also, the "War Machine" is a made-up version of the Bomb Thrower, 2 Inch, Mk I (or 2-inch Mortar M3 if you're an American), which was a single-shot 2-inch launcher for smoke grenades that was mounted in the turret of some British tanks. Oddly, it did not have an AGS-17 drum, was not semi-auto, and did not fire explosive grenades. But _apart from that..._
What's kinda funny though is there is actually an automatic grenade launcher that would have fit the period at least. in the 1930s Yakov Taubin was developing a crew served automatic grenade launcher for the soviets. Its pretty much faded into obscurity since it was never adopted and he was executed for party related crimes. But that would require far more effort than what Activision put forward for this game.
Funny how Girl's Frontline, the gun waifu gacha game, has more respect for the historic firearms than COD Vanguard.
The power of gun otakus
Keep up the awesome work dude
The Enfield rifle shown at the start looks closer to a later production Long Branch Enfield. Made in Canada and used alot.. But Most Enfield rifles in service at this point of the conflict were Mk III types. The most produced bolt action military rifle is by far the Mosin Nagant 1891/30.
I just find it hard to believe that this isn't historically accurate. My grandson says this is the most accurate portrayal of alternate history he's ever seen.
The problem is that it is not marketed as alternative history. The game even goes out of its way at points to portray/claim itself as accurate until it decides at the end to reveal that it’s a weird COD zombies tie in.
As i said before in the other Video about Stalingrad, the Volksturmgewehr was and is not full auto. The It is not the Volks Sturmgewehr (Peoples Assaultrifle) but Volkssturm Gewehr. Volkssturm is the name of the last ditch German Army and the Volkssturmgewehr was thier Semi Auto Rifle
The Lil Correction to the M60 Bit
The Polymer Box Belt Mag was only for the M60
The MG3 used a Refined Metal MG-42 Saddle Drum, Ameli uses a Polymer Belt Drum Mag that’s underneath the Gun
Most Guns use a Form of Plastic in LMGs from 1960’s to the Modern Day
Come to think of it, the "Extended Magazine" MG42 is using similar, if not the same plastic ammo boxes that was made for the Stoner 63 for the Belt Fed mode of operation.
As a Texan and a formerly pretty avid wearer of cowboy hats to work outside: I’m going to have to disagree with you on the usefulness of slouching a wide brimmed hat in a hot or desert environment: y’see, I would often slouch my hat on one side and just flip the hat around on my head depending on where the sun was facing, this way you have better ability to see out the side that is slouched, while the brimmed side is still blocking the sun out of one’s eyes.
I’m sure everyone likes to do things differently though, but at least as a former Texas landscaper: the slouched hat tooooootally is useful in hot environments without having to universally have the brim down, so I think they can get a pass on that one.
26:18 love that reaction! I'm equal parts enraged [because of the weapon] and hysterically laughing
Sir, I want you to know you made it into my suggested videos :)
Love your content friendo, keep it up!
when you were talking about the polymer magazine on the MG42, it was a real thing, on the german MP40's, the lowers were made a an early polymer called bakelite
I think the thing with him not aiming down the sight to cycle the bolt was because the player was quick scoping. Because you see him aiming while cycling when nails those 4 German in a row.
Also I think the RPGs they where talking about where panzershreks? I think those where around in 1942, not many of them though.
Also the volkstermgewer (spelled wrong, don’t care) was semi auto only. Which is something they got wrong in cod ww2 as well.
Also, also, I guess that MG42 extended mag would be bakelite not polymer.
Panzerschrecks were introduced in early 1944, after the germans encountered the Bazooka in Tunisia.
About your 3rd paragraph, it was called "Volksturm Gewehr" rather than "Volksurmgewehr" as it was to be issued to the Volksturm, who were pretty much the German equivalent of the British Homeguard
The lee Enfield sight kind of looks like a MAS 36, i don't know if you've ever heard about enlisted but it's a game that doesn't fuck up historical accuracy and that makes it really cool to play
@animarchy so you know how you said that they made it so you had to go out of your iron sights to chamber a new round with the rifles, well at 19:11 he actually does stay down the sight which meant that he was purposely not aiming down sight when he was chambering a new round. This is something I also do at closer ranges
the bren rant is the same energy as heavy's "oh my god, who touched Sasha... WHO TOUCHED MY GUN?!" line from TF2
Yep indeed
Why exactly are there no Italians in El Alamein the whole reason the Germans were in Africa was to help the Italian soldiers who were getting their asses kicked by the British. I don't know why these writers portray the Axis as just the Germans when especially at this point Italy was still making moves of their own.
Because Game developers think History is too boring or the Italians were "too weak" or "not evil enough", even though the Italians did commit their fair share of war crimes too, just not to the extent as the Germans or Japanese. Also the Italians were largely ineffective because of poor leadership and poor infrastructure, but they were a key player and honestly should be included. Good thing a lot of indie game developers are including Italians when necessary.
@@Frserthegreenengine Hell, Sniper Elite 3 got it way more accurate too
As far as I recalled, I heard Italian more frequent than German in SE3 & 4
Finally, someone who still remembers that my Army fought in North Africa......im crying
In cod 2 big red one,theres one tank mission set in North Africa that features Italian soldiers as well as Italian tanks.
@@Frserthegreenengine some Italians put up a good fight at bardic.
The way the character holds the MP40 really annoys me as I know from experience if you hold it like that you can accidentally press the mag release causing it to drop while shooting it
Eh we have historical pictures of soldiers holding the magazine, holding the weapon behind the magazine well, and as it appears in game. As far as we know it was always soldiers preference and its not historically wrong, even if not recommended.
@@WifiPillow Not like this. He's using a "C clamp" grip, something that wouldn't be popularised until the 2000's. In general the game is full of tacticool stuff that has no business in a WW2 game. Yet another area they've done no research in whatsoever. And just like with everything else, something that had regressed severely when compared to the first COD games.
Just wanna point out, loved his german impression, when he ranted about polymer MG3 belt box
41:32 Time machine XD that whole skit was just great !!!!
I paused *your* video to fully comprehend the RPG thing. That's how stupid it was. Bloody hell.