I’ve tried quite a few Trident tackle products. Great fan of the Terma link, hangover clip and their carbon fibre baiting needles. However not such a great fan of the Aero Rota clip as I find them rather fiddly and not a patch on the Gemini splash down. I’ve ordered some of the Dynaform and am looking forward to trying them as they look a great improvement over the Aero pulley.
Cheers for commenting peter Im not a fan of the gemini splashdowns had lots of ejected leads using them i deffo like the rotos and the function that once the lead is in its in forever lol Its fab to have others opinions If we all liked the same things it would be rather boring Just out of curiosity what ground do you fish over?
Love the terma links, Really like the new aero pulleys, Did not like the roto bait clip at all found it fiddly as hell. Ordered some trident kickers to try.
@@TheEastbourneFisherman will do havent got tackle yet get xmas out of the way see what cash is left thiis is what i hope to take up in my retirement all fishing channels are keeping me sane at the mo keep them coming
I do really like this trident rig building bits. But I believe it will all come down to cost as these bits are fast consumables. How much will it cost if we want to buy it in bulk?
Hi Ant thanks for taking time to comment. Im far from an expert but from what i am lead to believe is that the main rig body takes the most pressure during the cast as it has a direct line to the lead. I personally use 80lb rig body as i find this is way more than enough for the 6oz leads i cast For hook snoods i use 30lb on my pulley rigs and 25lb usually on my flappers The reason i use lighter snood lines personally is that if i get a snag usually i can take the pressure by wrapping the line over my arm and steady pulling for a break or a hook bend. In the smaller flapper rigs where small hooks are used i can usually pull for a hook bend or snap the line leaving minimal tackle in the sea Hope this helps and cheers for watching :)
Hi Cheers for taking time to comment. I will openly admit im not a fan of the gemini system time and time again it has ejected leads for both myself and other anglers i know. I have used the roto since its release and am confident in the system Vary rarley i have had it not eject my hook the only times it didnt were on wider gape 7/0 hooks which i found later were too big for the roto Since then the trident kicker has been released to accomate the bigger hooks which is again another ace product. The reason i like trident parts so much is because of its unique lead locking system meaning once u lock the lead in place with your clip it will never unlock the only way u will loose the lead is if u loose your whole rig. But everyone is different and what works for some may not be others personal choice But trident is 100 percent my firm favourite
@@TheEastbourneFisherman Just to update this convo, bought a range of trident components , great for rig building 👍. On the beach, excellent for quick assembly but my only problem was trying to get the hook to lock into the rota with wet hands & wet bait. Got to say as a regular Gemini user, I have had my head turned. Thanks for the heads up.
As long as you don't use pyramid shaped leads, the roto will release every single time. Roto depends on water resistance to turn the lock and then to release the hook. The pyramid shaped leads don't let the water to have direct contact to the roto when it splashes down in the water. I use roto since they release in the market and never ever had a released problem. Only with pyramid leads.
Sorry but I don’t get it. More plastic in the sea and do you think the fish give two hoots? I agree with earlier poster that it sounds more like the latest wheeze to catch anglers rather than fish.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts For me personally the cost of these parts were much cheaper than alternate like for like parts available. Much stronger in materials used to make and did the job better than any other items I have tried so far. Again its all down to personal preferences to which tackle is used and I completely agree some bits look to catch anglers than fish. However I think that the trident parts are much stronger and cheaper than alternate offers in the current market
Saw another youtube video where the setup was different, the line comes in through the bottom around the metal pin area and back out through the bottom on the other side, not sure your setup is correct. Additionally why would you need to put on a terma ling when you can tie directly to the rota clip?
Hi Martin thanks for commenting These dynaform are brand new items from trident I think you may be refering to the aero pulley where as you said that has to be rigged as a figure of 8 going in through the bottom and up over the top and back down however this is not that item. The use of the terma links in this rig is needed due to the fact you can not tie directly onto the roto as you need to fully depress the top of the roto to get the lead on Hope this helps Thanks for watching :)
Thanks for commenting There are 2 types of pulley from trident The aero pulley which as you said you figure of 8 it This is the dynaform which is a free running pulley meaning you just feed the line through as normal
My apologies I understood that the whole selling point of the trident pully system was the figure 8 knot stopping the weight dropping into snags when a fish gives slack on the snood.
I completly agree However these are alot cheaper than some of the rival brands who make the same sort of components. Taking that into consideration and the fact you can use one rig for two types of fishing for me is a winner in itself 🎣
@@FamasFTW98 and also don't forget that quicker clipping and x 2 options for a rig means more time in the water, which may mean more fish than someone out of the water messing about with 2 separate rigs.
@@FamasFTW98 but it's only one rig which can be adapted to two rigs. That has to be quicker than having to swap to another rig, get it out your box, unwind it. Plus space saving.. think about it
You can do this (turn a pulley into a runner) with a 'normal' pulley rig without any of the expenditure or the bulkiness of the green plastic bits. I can't really see what's innovative about it. I think some of these items are desogned to catch a fish chaser rather than an angler.
Hi Dan cheers for commenting Which items would you use to make your pulley / running rig? In place of the dynaform itself? Im not too sure on the expendature as these items are much cheaper than current like for like items currently available.
@@TheEastbourneFisherman I'd just go simple with a gemini quick link, as I use a swivel on the end of my shockleader (age old argument of some use a link some use a swivel on for connecting from shockleader to rig, I still think of fishing near line snags a swivel is, the way to go as there, isn't a link open to snags). Then to turn it into a runner, do exactly what you do, lead clips on the quick link.
@@dancrayford8725 Dan, running line directly over bare metal and have no break strength loss is only gonna work when you use heavy diameter metal, and I mean diameter. Using a power swivel as pulley is stupid. . (Hey... a power swivel is strong... but yes, it has finer wire for same pull, and a knife needs finer edge to cut more easy. A pulley needs more body and litlle friction, so Trident have listened to users, to laws of engineering, and actually produce two pulley by now. ) Trident do offer two pulley, and the recent one is for folks using small weights.
Hi Mike thanks for commenting Tbh I only ever use 20lb snoods or if I'm specifically fishing for a bigger fish I will up to 40lb then for conger use a wire trace I guess it depends on the indervidual and there casting style I typically just do overhead casts and it works alright for me
quality looking rig and the different way you can use it mate
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I’ve tried quite a few Trident tackle products. Great fan of the Terma link, hangover clip and their carbon fibre baiting needles. However not such a great fan of the Aero Rota clip as I find them rather fiddly and not a patch on the Gemini splash down. I’ve ordered some of the Dynaform and am looking forward to trying them as they look a great improvement over the Aero pulley.
Cheers for commenting peter
Im not a fan of the gemini splashdowns had lots of ejected leads using them i deffo like the rotos and the function that once the lead is in its in forever lol
Its fab to have others opinions
If we all liked the same things it would be rather boring
Just out of curiosity what ground do you fish over?
Cheers for a great Demo on the new Trident 🔱 mate. Pure Genius bit of kit he’s come up with there.
Thanks for the feedback
Deffo a decent bit of kit :)
Both interesting and intriguing. Think I'll have to look into Trident Tackle a little deeper. Thanks. Cheers. Ken
Love the terma links, Really like the new aero pulleys, Did not like the roto bait clip at all found it fiddly as hell. Ordered some trident kickers to try.
Great kit.
If you want to you can put the rota clip on the top of the ledger rig and clip it up
Good idea will give it a try cheers :)
fantastic video clear and understanding ,
Cheers Dave :)
great demo looks like something even i could master
Should give it a go Brian :)
@@TheEastbourneFisherman will do havent got tackle yet get xmas out of the way see what cash is left thiis is what i hope to take up in my retirement all fishing channels are keeping me sane at the mo keep them coming
been using these for a few months now. very happy with them
Do you use them in the same configeration switching from pulley to ledger?
@@TheEastbourneFisherman pulleys mainly. Think i might give your way a go!
Great info mate
Love bit off kit I just got myself same and I just submitted to you to
Thank you let me know how you get on
I do really like this trident rig building bits. But I believe it will all come down to cost as these bits are fast consumables. How much will it cost if we want to buy it in bulk?
Tbh I brought a load in bulk and still have loads left, most of these can be reused if looked after time and time again :)
When your making pulley rigs is it not best to match the strength on snoods to mainline due to both taking the force of the cast?
Hi Ant thanks for taking time to comment.
Im far from an expert but from what i am lead to believe is that the main rig body takes the most pressure during the cast as it has a direct line to the lead.
I personally use 80lb rig body as i find this is way more than enough for the 6oz leads i cast
For hook snoods i use 30lb on my pulley rigs and 25lb usually on my flappers
The reason i use lighter snood lines personally is that if i get a snag usually i can take the pressure by wrapping the line over my arm and steady pulling for a break or a hook bend.
In the smaller flapper rigs where small hooks are used i can usually pull for a hook bend or snap the line leaving minimal tackle in the sea
Hope this helps and cheers for watching :)
Are you sure the rota-clip is going to open on every cast? Whereas the Gemini bait-shield never fails.
Hi Cheers for taking time to comment.
I will openly admit im not a fan of the gemini system time and time again it has ejected leads for both myself and other anglers i know.
I have used the roto since its release and am confident in the system
Vary rarley i have had it not eject my hook the only times it didnt were on wider gape 7/0 hooks which i found later were too big for the roto
Since then the trident kicker has been released to accomate the bigger hooks which is again another ace product.
The reason i like trident parts so much is because of its unique lead locking system meaning once u lock the lead in place with your clip it will never unlock the only way u will loose the lead is if u loose your whole rig.
But everyone is different and what works for some may not be others personal choice
But trident is 100 percent my firm favourite
@@TheEastbourneFisherman Just to update this convo, bought a range of trident components , great for rig building 👍.
On the beach, excellent for quick assembly but my only problem was trying to get the hook to lock into the rota with wet hands & wet bait.
Got to say as a regular Gemini user, I have had my head turned. Thanks for the heads up.
Also depends on. The led you use to as some affect the water flow to the clip i have had a few not released but still rate them highly
As long as you don't use pyramid shaped leads, the roto will release every single time.
Roto depends on water resistance to turn the lock and then to release the hook. The pyramid shaped leads don't let the water to have direct contact to the roto when it splashes down in the water.
I use roto since they release in the market and never ever had a released problem. Only with pyramid leads.
is the dart board a bit low or are you sitting on a ladder
Lol sitting on a chair! Tbh even at that hight i would still miss 😜🤣
Sorry but I don’t get it. More plastic in the sea and do you think the fish give two hoots? I agree with earlier poster that it sounds more like the latest wheeze to catch anglers rather than fish.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
For me personally the cost of these parts were much cheaper than alternate like for like parts available. Much stronger in materials used to make and did the job better than any other items I have tried so far.
Again its all down to personal preferences to which tackle is used and I completely agree some bits look to catch anglers than fish.
However I think that the trident parts are much stronger and cheaper than alternate offers in the current market
Saw another youtube video where the setup was different, the line comes in through the bottom around the metal pin area and back out through the bottom on the other side, not sure your setup is correct. Additionally why would you need to put on a terma ling when you can tie directly to the rota clip?
Hi Martin thanks for commenting
These dynaform are brand new items from trident
I think you may be refering to the aero pulley where as you said that has to be rigged as a figure of 8 going in through the bottom and up over the top and back down however this is not that item.
The use of the terma links in this rig is needed due to the fact you can not tie directly onto the roto as you need to fully depress the top of the roto to get the lead on
Hope this helps
Thanks for watching :)
Your using the dynaform incorrectly, you need to figure 8 the line as its passed through the dynaform pulley link!...
Thanks for commenting
There are 2 types of pulley from trident
The aero pulley which as you said you figure of 8 it
This is the dynaform which is a free running pulley meaning you just feed the line through as normal
My apologies I understood that the whole selling point of the trident pully system was the figure 8 knot stopping the weight dropping into snags when a fish gives slack on the snood.
as good as it looks unfortunatly fancy terminal tackle will not help catch more fish
I completly agree
However these are alot cheaper than some of the rival brands who make the same sort of components.
Taking that into consideration and the fact you can use one rig for two types of fishing for me is a winner in itself 🎣
@@TheEastbourneFisherman yes that is a good option
@@FamasFTW98 and also don't forget that quicker clipping and x 2 options for a rig means more time in the water, which may mean more fish than someone out of the water messing about with 2 separate rigs.
@@trojanx2006 don't really see it to be any faster at clipping on rigs , than just a normal , link clipped to a swivel
@@FamasFTW98 but it's only one rig which can be adapted to two rigs. That has to be quicker than having to swap to another rig, get it out your box, unwind it. Plus space saving.. think about it
You can do this (turn a pulley into a runner) with a 'normal' pulley rig without any of the expenditure or the bulkiness of the green plastic bits. I can't really see what's innovative about it. I think some of these items are desogned to catch a fish chaser rather than an angler.
Hi Dan cheers for commenting
Which items would you use to make your pulley / running rig? In place of the dynaform itself?
Im not too sure on the expendature as these items are much cheaper than current like for like items currently available.
@@TheEastbourneFisherman I'd just go simple with a gemini quick link, as I use a swivel on the end of my shockleader (age old argument of some use a link some use a swivel on for connecting from shockleader to rig, I still think of fishing near line snags a swivel is, the way to go as there, isn't a link open to snags).
Then to turn it into a runner, do exactly what you do, lead clips on the quick link.
@@dancrayford8725 Dan, running line directly over bare metal and have no break strength loss is only gonna work when you use heavy diameter metal, and I mean diameter. Using a power swivel as pulley is stupid. . (Hey... a power swivel is strong... but yes, it has finer wire for same pull, and a knife needs finer edge to cut more easy. A pulley needs more body and litlle friction, so Trident have listened to users, to laws of engineering, and actually produce two pulley by now. )
Trident do offer two pulley, and the recent one is for folks using small weights.
@@Jaak_the_Belgian what are you going on about?
Isn't using only 20lb snood line risky as you are expecting it to take the strain of the cast?
Hi Mike thanks for commenting
Tbh I only ever use 20lb snoods or if I'm specifically fishing for a bigger fish I will up to 40lb then for conger use a wire trace
I guess it depends on the indervidual and there casting style
I typically just do overhead casts and it works alright for me