No Bike Lane? Do this.
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- This is called lane filtering. It's very safe and is nothing like lane splitting. Essentially, if vehicle traffic is travelling under 10km/h, you can just pedal on past said traffic.
It's also a wonderful way of making those drivers envious of your freedom on awesometacular bicycle of yours! Get out there and show drivers how much fun biking is! Cheers :)
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Not to mention it is ILLEGAL in many places to bike on the sidewalk. But when I ride on the street I get honked and cursed at. The USA is just overall very hostile to bicyclists.
Yep! Illegal here, too!
I hate everyone on a bike because everyone on a bike is an Entitled a******
@@BenDurham then go to your reps and city planners... if biking is illegal in places DESIGNED FOR PEDESTRIANS then there are probably people who don't know what it's like for bikers. You have to talk to the people in charge and change their minds if that's possible, show them real world evidence.
@@christopherjunkinswe all know the reps won’t do shit
Where it is legal, I think its best to use the sidewalk for things like the video shown, but then go back into the road before the intersection. Its pretty easy to do on a bike, and as a driver, I believe itd be safer based on a lot of accidents and near accidents that I've seen. Just be aware of pedestrians ofc and use discernment.
God bless❤
usa got some horrible city planning
Yep, in this case it's Fake London, Ontario, Canada :(
BUT it's getting better - slowly 😬
It rly do
In the US and Canada a bicycle is considered a vehicle on the road and the rider must follow traffic laws just as car drivers do. He broke the law and put himself at risk.
@@rickbateman2401 traffic filtering is perfectly fine. Lane splitting on the other hand is a very different more dangerous thing.
@@BenDurham I've done that route with my wife on her bike and kids in the trailer behind me. The thing that baffled me a few days ago was I was leaving my sub division in my car for work. Guy on a bike while I'm stopped at the stop sign for traffic and waiting to turn right at the tee he goes to pass me on the left. Assuming he is going left I go to go and he cuts right infront me at the driver headlight inches from my car and I about run him over. Then looks at me like I am in the wrong.
The crazy part is that technically, by the letter of the law, you're supposed to join the car line and scoot along in the bumper to bumper traffic.
Yeeeep. Luckily bicycles cause essentially no problems when doing this so it's not hurting anyone 🤷♂️
Really? Is undertaking illegal?
I think that law does have merit though. One of the things that is both annoying and dangerous to both cyclists and drivers is leapfrogging: where a cyclist would filter to the front at the light, but the cars will pass the cyclist after the light turns green, but at the next light, the cyclist goes back to the front, and everything repeats.
And that's all the painted bike lane does - gives cyclists a "legal" position to do what we always have done - pass on the right like that.
It's okay to ride like this when you're passing a pile of traffic as in this video but cyclists shouldn't pass on the right like that when traffic is lighter. That's when we should wait behind the cars instead of constantly forcing cars to pass us and putting everyone in danger.
@@BenDurhamexcept when they ride around like maniacs at 20mph on a 60mph road and almost cause 3 accidents in under 10 minutes, fr if theres no bike lane yall need to stay off of high traffic fast roads
What does American ect do so wrong.
How is there so much traffic in such a low density population area
*etc
They went full car brain
@@BenDurham everyone does. They spend more time staring at red lights than the trees.
@@0xsergy 😂💀
Most likely, construction
Its illegal for cyclists to ride on the sidewalk in my town. Not that we would want to, the sidewalks here are in terrible condition.
Same here! I didn't even cover that fact - whoopsies 😅
Yeah, but I'm not riding in the street with idiots...
@@chrisl6263 you literally mustn't have watched the video because I say that that's why we need cycling infrastructure. I would much rather be in a protected bike lane separated from 2 ton metal and plastic death machines!
But in the interim, over the last 10 years of biking I have only had positive experiences taking the lane. As soon as I take the sidewalk or hug the side of the road, cars take advantage of this and don't give me any space at all. You just have to force your hand and take the lane.
@@chrisl6263 I dont blame you, but I hope that enough people ride on the streets enough where seeing cyclists isn't uncommon. Right now a lot of the problems come with lack of real bike infrastructure and unfamiliarity of drivers (and cyclists!) sharing a road together.
It may be illegal but I'd prefer to stay out of the hospital or worse in case someone opens their car door
Come to The Netherlands, a lot of roads are built with bike lanes or there are seperate bike roads, because almost everybody has a bike and uses it almost daily
Love to hear it but I do want to make a change here! If I were to go there, all the change is already made 😜
I'll definitely study the Netherlands and visit occasionally but I don't want to just ditch my community, friends, and family.
Come to Melbourne, we have stacks of bike infrastructure and public transport that every cyclist refuses to use instead opting to suck up petrol fumes on major arterials because they can't be arsed to spend 3 minutes cycling to the bike track.
Oh as a car driver you can 100% time those lights like you just did. It just traffic dependent. I've got the timing memorized so I can literally count down every light change in my city. It is very satisfying.
Painted bike lanes are the city's was of saying we could not be bothered.
Fair, although it's at least better than having to squeeze by cars like in this video!
*bike gutter
Painted bike lanes can be very good. It's just that they have to stand out, be consistent, be continuous, and not look decrepid. All of which is not the case in this vid.
In Hong Kong they just don’t bother putting cycle lanes down! Wish they had them there!
Wish my city bothered even half that much.
As a dutch person i feel offended with the statement all cities around the world need better bicycle infrastructur. Even my town has mutiple bicycle only roads.
I mean roadies (spandex clad road cyclists) will do their thing but the regular person on a bike should have access to safe, protected cycling infrastructure so that anyone from the age of 8 to 80 can ride on their bikes instead of driving a personal vehicle.
@@BenDurham I agree. But my country already has what you want. We got 23.000 Miles of Bicycle only roads.
If you dont believe me. Search for youtube channel of "not just bikes"
@@TTDEATHTT oh I know! Jason (from Not Just Bikes) grew up in the same Fake London area (Northwest London) I'm making these video partially because after seeing his videos, I realize how carcentric London is 😓 but I'm trying to make the place better 🤷♂️
The Netherlands is just a small part of the world.
@@philswaim392Then add Germany, Denmark, Austria, Switzerland, France and many more.
I'm a casual cyclist but worked for years with a guy who was a total cycling pro (he rode to work every day, snow included and participated in ultra long road events too). My understanding from him was that we should not ride on the sidewalk for the reasons discussed here. He always said ,"Remember, you are traffic too. Dont be afraid to take your place in the lane." I've not been brave enough to ride full in the lane; I'm just getting to the point where I can focus on riding to the right without feeling shaky. I agree with "looking ahead" to gauge the intersection and timing the light !
I'd love to see bike-only roads !
Bike lanes are going in on this road finally so yay!!
Dude the way you’re responding to these carbrains in the comments. You’re my hero!
It's incredible how it's "OK" for a bike lane (just the paint...) to simply stop existing. "It's fine, I'll just die."
Extended bike lane going in here in the next year or so so YAY!
AS A TRUCK DRIVER I APPROVE
Oh yay! That's rare to hear haha
Hey this is London! I used to live there. Hope London builds more protected bike lanes. I love how the painted bike gutter shows up out of nowhere before the lights.
It IS London and they're building more and more bike lanes every year! :)
Motorists: "GET OFF THE ROAD!!!"
Pedesteians: "GET OFF THE SIDEWALK!!!"
Bicyclists always getting the short stick.
Bicyclists always getting the short stick: in spokes 😅
Buy a motor vehicle and pay for insurance, or quit crying.
@@holdtheline4169 I have a car. But why would I drive it to commute and become even more traffic? And why would you want more traffic "getting in your way?"
And what about those who can't drive due to any number of reasons?
Are you against freedom of choice? Sure seems like you're trying to force everyone to drive and become more traffic.
@@holdtheline4169 I have a car and I pay insurance, what else do you want from me?
@BenDurham You are free to drive, walk, or bike.
Just quit complaining when vehicles are the ones dealing with idiot bicyclists and already crammed roads all while paying for their vehicle, gas, and insurance.
Bicyclists have this sense of entitlement like they should be treated like motor vehicles. Frankly, it's ridiculous.
Ben youd love the "Green Wave" light timing they've implemented in san francisco, streets wirh lights timed for 15 mph so cyclists can comfortably hit every green light
Okay THAT'S cool!! Might make a video on that in the future haha
When I'm driving on the sidewalk, I always make sure to look out for bicyclist.
Bro I swear that was the dumbest thing I’ve heard “CaRs dOnt LoOk foR BikeS oN thE siDewaLk”
He meant that when they’re turning they will not be looking for bikes. Bikes are supposed to obey traffic rules so if the bike goes straight and the green light, a turning car is not going to be looking for a bicycle from the sidewalk
@@beccalife275 that's why you are suppose to pay attention to the flow of traffic. i biked on the sidewalk for years (legal where i am) and crossed plenty of roads where vehicles are turning because i know to slow down once you get to a street and watch the cars movements. it's a two way responsibility and you have to expect that others around you are not going to follow that responsibility. defensive driving applies to bikes as well. and pedestrians are no problem as long as you aren't barreling around blind corners.
I almost got hospitalized by a robust, rotund individual flying down a hill on their bike. They thought it would be a good idea to ride downhill, not making a single noise, on a sidewalk, and just hope they missed me. Made me a supporter of bicycle infrastructure in a heartbeat.
Hope you're okay but yeah, there's a reason sidewalks aren't for bicycles.
But also an example of how you were seriously injured but NOT killed (if a car or truck hit you, things would have been different, unfortunately).
Beauty of bicycling is you have so many more options. Choosing the safer of the mix of routes and paths is usually best.
Unironically cities and the US in general needs biker lanes and dedicated safe zones for them.
I hate driving past them in my truck because I know if something happens and they fall over then it’s likely game over for them if i or another driver hits them.
Plus, I genuinely think it would help traffic a ton, less drivers on the road and more ways to get around sound awesome
Agreed! I live too far from most places to walk to them, but if there were dedicated infrastructure I would be more than happy to bike.
And your point about safety is so important. When I do ride around on my bike, I take the sidewalks whenever I can (no one walks on them anyway), but when there aren't sidewalks and I have to take the streets, I get pretty anxious about the car traffic.
i just read the comments and WOW! so many car brains but its true if you don't want cyclist on the road than build bike lanes, also stop giving cyclist the finger just for exciting we are just as entitled to the road as any motor vehicle
Yeah, it's weird that people who drive don't want bike lanes installed but are also against cyclists using the road. We've all gotta share the road!
On one of my commutes I tried biking on the sidwalk and pedestrians tell me to get on the road but when I go on the road drivers tell me to get on the sidewalk , so I just go on the road and take the lane I found it to be the safest option.
He breaks the law in the video you dumby……
Then start obeying traffic laws. You have to obey the same laws as cars. Aka stop at a stop light or sign , yield to traffic, signal for turns..etc
90 percent or more of cyclists I see in our city violate all of these.
Also, cyclists cannot hold up traffic. Pretty much a law in every state.
@@alexandersmith4858same thing can be said about car driver's I see it all the time during my comute to work.
I just came across this video today and I'm in rural Ireland with understandably virtually no infrastructure or support for bicycle's until I get to a larger urban area 20km away.
The thing about building infrastructure for bicycles if it is done well, is that it is not a threat to car driver's or taking something away from them, instead it's allowing an outlet for others to not have no other option than to use a car. Build it and they will ride on it!
And nobody needs to reinvent the wheel as far as providing infrastructure is concerned.
It's already been done highly successfully in many countries all around the world.
The day after a new bike lane is opened there may not be any more cyclists using it.
But come back in half a dozen years and that will have changed as people who would have just been potential cyclists feel safer and more confident to use their bikes on the new infrastructure.
I own and still need a car, I just don't have to use it as often. And I don't own any lycra or Spandex.
Well they built lots of bike lanes where I live in Canada, and removed street parking in the downtown that has hurt the local businesses. I have seen maybe 10 bikes on it this whole year due to our weather conditions. We have had 4 months of snow (0 bikes), 2 months of solid rain (1 bike?), and we are now on 3 months of drought high temperatures and forest fire smoke.
Always check your state laws! It will save your ass should you get hit and someone try to blame you for being careless. Always follow right of way laws, cause if you run that red-light and get hit, congrats bud, you're at fault!
I'm saying this for others, I believe the creator definitely follows the laws since he's obviously, well, not on the sidewalk lol.
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At 0:08 sec in this video of a cyclist passing cars on the right we see a sign with a big red strike prohibiting cyclists from passing cars on the right.
Weird that people would document and distribute evidence of themselves committing an offence.
"Some if you would say 'Get on the sidewalk'." Nope. That would be super illegal in my country (NL). We have bike lanes almost everywhere, because guess what: the sideWALK is for WALKING.
That's where the law is the problem, a bike will care for fellow pedestrians more then a care will care for a bike. The laws were developed in a time of so much less traffic.
my view is the motorway is for motored vehicles and sidewalks are for people not on a motored vehicle. you have skateboards, scooters, and rollerskates on the sidewalk too. might as well let bikes. helps that it's legal where i'm from and pedestrians have never been a problem if you slow down at blind corners.
I find the “suddenly appearing” bike lane to be the weirdest part of this type of urban planning. You have the lanes at intersections and then, whoosh! They disappear straight after.
I love timing my speed so that my bike would always be moving just as the traffic light goes green.
There's something about using your resources efficiently and minimizing waste that just makes the experience satisfying.
Also, it just feels so good zipping past cars stuck in traffic. They take up so much unnecessary space and zipping past them when they're stuck reminds them they're paying hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars (gas, parking, insurance, loan payments, etc.) a month for the experience.
Couldn't have said this better myself 🤣
Just come live in the Netherlands, you'll have a great time cycling here!
We'll definitely visit but we have family and friends in our community here. And we are able to lobby to make things better over our life!
I just bought an ebike and started commuting to work. Car drives are aggressive af for no reason. They've got 3-4 lanes to choose from but still pass within inches of me ALLLL the way to the left basically I'm riding the gutter and they still choose the lane closest to me... The irony is i pass them again at every intersection like you did here.
One week in and I'm already hating car drives for how entitled and aggressive they are towards people who ride bikes to get around. The entire god damn city is built with 3-4 lanes each side and the traffic isn't even dense, but it's like they are see a bicyclist and get road rage... The world is built for cars which is completely stupid. The average speed in a city is 13mph because they have to stop every 15 seconds at the next light...
They're are designated bike lanes that pop up and end out of nowhere so it's basically pointless. Why is it too much for the city to designate 4 feet of road to bicyclists?! It's showing me how fkd mentally society is.
You don't need a 4,000lbs SUV to get around town... You just don't.. 😅
pro tip: ride in the right tire track to take the lane! :)
Take the whole right side lane by riding in the middle, its safer and forces them to move further left to pass you
@@hiandhello4183 idk why cars think they need to share the lane with me, it's got to be out of spite / hate
You absolutely do need a vehicle to get around town here. Otherwise you are asking to be a pancake.
@@NoThankUBeQuiet you live in a horrible place. I am sorry for you.
As a white cane user THANK YOU for not cycling on the sidewalk. And to electric scooters riders who do: F off, you’ll kill someone one day.
Thank you so much for obeying the traffic signals!!! If you are in the road, obey road rules 🙏
Passing cars on the right is very dangerous. For one thing, drivers traveling or turning across a line of stopped cars can't see bicyclists coming next to the curb. That's how I broke my collarbone when a car turning left at a yellow light hit me. Also, it's easy to get doored when a passenger decides to jump out of the car without looking towards the rear first, which no one has done ever.
I still pass lines of cars on the right; the schadenfreude is irresistable. But I make sure that I am not going so fast that I ignore cars crossing from the left and that I can't stop should someone open a door.
What’s up forest city!?! Love it when you hit that green light and just keep cruising 😉
For sure
As someone who bikes to work, I’ve never been close to getting hit while in a bike lane or on a shared road… while riding on the sidewalk, I’ve almost been hit 3 times. He is absolutely right, cars don’t check sidewalks before turning. People also don’t have awareness while walking on sidewalks. I was in a bike lane that splits a restaurant outside sitting area and the actual restaurant (ik the perfect place for a bike lane 🤦🏽♀️…) I almost hit a waiter because he walked through the bike lane without looking… and he works there knowing about the bike lane. I’ve crashed due to avoiding pedestrians who decide to take up the whole sidewalk and not move for bikers….
Long story short…. I bike a lot. This dude is right. Adding better bike lanes will help pedestrians, drivers, and bikers… and the earth because better bike lanes means more bikers which means less car emissions.
Thank you! ✌️
Wow it's almost like your responsible for watching out for yourself and not just blinding riding through an intersection without paying attention then blame the car for doing the same exact thing. Your bike lane isnt some sacred holy thing you have to avoid obstacles if they get in your way not bitch to other people to solve your problem for you.
As a child I rode my bike on the footpath from age 4-17 never hit one pedestrian in all that time. And never saw a friend hit a pedestrian. If you can’t avoid someone at walking pace, take a bus.
Do you think I'm worried about hitting people going walking pace? No.
The reason that biking on the sidewalk is dangerous is because every single driveway turns into an intersection and a collision point. Not only that, if you get to a main intersection technically you're supposed to dismount from your bike and cross on foot at the crosswalk. Doing that at every single intersection when you're commuting is somewhat unreasonable. Not only that, if you don't dismount at those crosswalks and you continue biking cars don't expect that and can hit you. A lot of vehicle-bike collisions are at intersections and right turns.
@@BenDurhamso when a car is turning right and u just fly past them as their in the middle of their turn. Like 99% of all bikers in seattle do. The car had right of way yet you felt the need to filter past them. I love playing chicken with bikers in seattle when they feel the need to ride in the middle of the lane and not let the line of 10+cars behind them on a 35mph road pass.
@@camzeds7389 The car doesn't have the right of way tho
@@BenDurham Literal children can do it but you can't. Skill issue
@@CommandoBlack123I got hit by a car as a child while riding my bike on the sidewalk 😊
commuting home in a small town in northern england yesterday (12 mile commute) beat my buddy who was driving his car by 30 mins. cars have their place but sat in a tin box for over an hour...not for me.
Unprotected bike lanes are a clear indication of indifference and disrespect. Period!
They'll be adding unprotected ones here in a year or so and then when full resurfacing happens, fully protected lanes! Better than nothing (like in this video)
the amount of times i almost got hit well riding on the sidewalk cause cars would just pull out of the parking lot without looking both ways
THIS happens far to often. Glad you pay attention!
I love that perfect intersection timing when it happens. I'll coast slowly towards a red light and some annoying cycle noob will blow past me to stop at the light and as it turns green I glide right past them as they struggle to start up again.
Glad I live in my city in Canada, no bike lanes but sidewalk infrastructure is top notch, and city has PSA’s that pedestrians should always make way for cyclists. There’s also a bylaw that all bicycles must have a bell or horn to alert pedestrians ahead or when turning blind corners, all of that makes my city have an actual good number of cyclists when the weather permits
no walking signs are a crime against humanity
My buddy just got ran over -while he was biking ON THE SIDEWALK. Since he was on the sidewalk, the police cited and faulted him for cycling on the sidewalk. He through out his shoulder and snapped his femur. He was taken away in an ambulance.
It's seriously hard to break a femur!
Where did this happen? That's awful to hear but SO MANY people say "get on the sidewalk!" But don't understand the dangers of it.
What's the story?
@@BenDurham ok. The story as relayed to me, goes like this: This happened in Plymouth, Mi., halfway between Detroit and Ann Arbor. My co-worker commutes to and from work, on an e-bike. There is no sidewalk in the light industrial park where our workplace is situated. When he left work that afternoon, he rode on the street out of the industrial park. At that point, he jumped on the sidewalk at the major road, outside the industrial park, to stay away from the rush hour traffic. The sidewalk went past an Amazon distribution center. He was hit by a passenger car, as he was crossing the distribution center driveway. The auto driver never looked for, nor expected, a pedestrian, nor cyclist as he was pulling out of the parking lot. I don’t know the details of the citation, but it was clear, as the incident was described to me, that he was at fault since adults on bikes are technically (or legally) restricted from riding on the sidewalks, in our community. It is an otherwise unenforced law, here.
@@BenDurham I’ll add this about my community: There are a lot of cyclists here. Virtually every driver here is respectful of the cyclists that they share the road with. I’ve only had one incident with an angry, aggressive driver in the 12 years that I’ve lived here. And that incident was one that I could have used better judgment on my part, to avoid that dispute. So, I think this incident was simply an unfortunate mistake. Detroit’s eastern suburbs, on the other hand, is filled with sociopaths and thugs who seem to enjoy menacing other drivers and cyclists on THEIR roads. There is always some nut jobs from over there that are road raging on one another and make the evening news. I don’t care to even drive around there, let alone ride my bike.
We had some heavy road construction recently, traffic would back up for miles. So satisfying taking the pathway along side the road with my ebike and wave to people as I went home
The biggest issue with not having a bike lane (or having one that's nothing more than a painted line sometimes with nothing else done to the road), is that there's all those potholes and sometimes road debris that close to the curb. I like how my city actually has shared use paths for cyclists and pedestrians that are actually designed from the outset with cycling in mind, nice and wide, road crossings are visible and marked by yellow posts, and roads that are too busy or fast for crossings instead get underpasses and bridges over them.
Where I live (Arizona), you can legally sidewalk ride at 20 mph as far as my understanding of the law goes. Sounds safe! Though to be fair, it is southern Arizona, so not many people are out in the sidewalk. It does still have the problem of people pulling in without warning or checking for danger so I'd still prefer to go on the street itself, and thankfully the suburb I live in has a lot of motorized cart users that go slow so the drivers that regularly go around here are a bit more accustomed to non-cars on the streets.
Huh! That's an interesting law but I also see it making a bit more sense because there are so few pedestrians out walking because of the insane sprawl 😬
Are the sidewalks shaded with trees/etc?
@@BenDurham Not around here they're not, it would be too much water use in a place where water is to be used wisely.
@@BringMayFlowers that definitely fair, although the heat island effect is even greater when there is only concrete and cement without any vegetation to soak up the heat.
I quickly searched up low-water desert trees and am wondering if this would be possible on a large scale there? 👇
www.tipsbulletin.com/desert-trees/
@@BenDurham Possibly, I'll ask the HOA (blegh, but to be fair it's the least awful one I've ever seen) about it and at least see if they can look into the feasibility on a water use level. I do know Intel and TSMC are eyeing up the Colorado River hungrily and there's little anyone can do about it, and the state is considering sponsoring a desalinstion plant in Sonora to import water from the gulf.
The number of pedestrians killed by cyclists is miniscule. The number of cyclists killed by cars is substantially larger. Because cars are huge hunks of metal traveling at much higher speeds!
I've gotten hit by a car turning through an intersection who was clearly not looking out for cyclists, so I ride on the sidewalk now. I'm very cautious around pedestrians, and I cross intersections as if nobody can see me unless we make eye contact. I've been stopped by a cop and I explained all of this to her and she said okay fair enough and drove away. It's stupid that bikes should be considered vehicles, the comparison is so spurious. And even if a straight up lack of attention wasn't enough, many drivers actively hate road cyclists with a passion, whereas pedestrians don't mind as long as you're courteous.
Depends on where you are. Some pedestrians make it a point to walk more just so that they can show those cyclists who's boss of the sidewalk. They've never been more healthy in their life.
It's so dangerous to cycle on the pavement (sidewalk), that in the UK, it's illegal.
However, this is more about pedestrian safety, rather than cyclists' safety. Many elderly pedestrians were knocked over by cyclists on pavements (sidewalks) and passed away.
P.s. I'm not anti cycling, I commute exclusively by bike and believe it'd way better than driving in many cities (in the UK at least). And I'm also am part of a car club, so not trying to hate on drivers, but it's just logic that bikes are one solution to traffic issues and pollution.
in American suburbs the sidewalks aren't used because they don't lead anywhere useful. Just to more houses. You basically need a car to get anywhere.
The real danger isn't running into a pedestrian, but running into a car driving down their driveway not expecting a fast pedestrian or cyclist. Every single house is an intersection now.
Riding in those bike lanes is way more dangerous than on the side walk. I refuse to use them
Cycling on the sidewalk or pavement, is also very inconvenient and inefficient. Cycling should be encouraged and more convenient than driving, it doesn't cause nearly as much pollution or congestion as driving does.
Thank you for being the first bike activist to admit that bicycles on the sidewalk can endanger pedestrians. I cycle too and even on the sidewalk yet I slow down and even GET OFF MY BIKE at tight junctions... unlike cracked out speed demons that are displaced entitled drivers on two wheels.
Dont be mad bc youre slow
100% My #1 job is to not hit or scare pedestrians. There are times I need to be on the sidewalk (mostly rough roads under construction) but I'll hang my feet down, go real slow and don't pedal. And if it gets crowded, I'll jump off.
If I see a pedestrian hesitate to cross the street because I'm coming, I haven't done a good enough job.
@@DavidAWA well aren't you just a special lil flower. What's your address so I can send you a cookie
@@jvillain9946 You wouldn't be able to come to my address. You couldn't handle all the jaywalking and loitering going on.
@@DavidAWA so you dont want me to mail you a cookie. Btw I live in Baltimore. Jaywalking and loitering is a summer vacation
Idk what the rules are in Ontario but here in BC that's probably illegal - as a cyclist you're supposed to act more or less like a car, except that you're also supposed to stay to the right as much as you reasonably can, but in general you can't pretend there's an invisible lane and pass stopped traffic on the right. Cars are supposed to share the road with you and go single file, only passing when safe.
There are some pretty big differences between what's legal vs safe vs practical when cycling, and I think people need to decide that for themselves because it's so ambiguous sometimes, but if someone were to slightly turn to the right or open their door here, they probably wouldn't have any responsibility for your injury. Not to mention that the very edge of the road is the debris zone and you have a much higher risk of running over something that would pop your tire there.
That's not to say I would never do this, but that it probably isn't the best idea - getting that satisfaction from passing stopped traffic in an actual bike lane is safer.
You're right. A bicycle passing cars on the right without either of:
1) A dedicated bike lane or
2) Enough room for two cars to pass each other
... is 100% illegal in Ontario under the Highway Traffic Act and this video should not be instructing people to commit violations on the road like that. That behaviour is a great way to get yourself doored or, even worse, right-hooked by a car turning right. The worst part about the latter case would be that the cyclist is found at-fault for the accident too, given that passing on the right is not permitted (except in the cases I noted).
A case of someone purporting to be a cycling expert without even reading the traffic laws.
Lane filtering is different from lane splitting and is alright and isn't dangerous.
Lane splitting is definitely dangerous.
@@BenDurham I would just say be careful - this could be dangerous, it's just a lot better than if traffic were actually moving. But you'd still be on your own if someone didn't see you and caused you to wipe out.
Totally understand the instinct, and it does seem like you have room here - but not really enough to react if anything were to happen. Just want to make sure people are being safe. I don't drive myself so you won't see me making sympathetic arguments for drivers - this is just about cycling safety.
@BenDurham Different or not, it's still illegal. If there is a dooring incident or you get right-hooked by a car turning right, you can expect charges.
At the very least, you should not be instructing other cyclists to carry out illegal behaviour. It's not hard to confirm you're breaking the law. It's clearly stated in the Highway Traffic Act.
@@DevynCairns ... and about contributing to the reasons many motorists detest cyclists. Law-abiding cyclists have to bear the brunt of law-breakers like this fellow.
Its actually illegal for you to bike on the side walk in most places. They treat bicycles like vehicles. The only reason you biked on the side walk as a small kid is because you were being taught how to bike and those teaching you get the pass to do so aswell. but as adults you go much faster on a bicycle so it becomes dangerous and they have made it illegal.
Power to every cyclist filtering through stopped cars.
Too fun
Theres a sign he passes that says it’s illegal but ya forsurreeee🤡
@@_caelwhich one?
The only one I saw specifically called out sharing the road, with the bike on the inside of the car.
Sometimes when I'm filtering I pretend like I'm Luke Skywalker doing a trench run on the Death Star.
You're just making every driver you pass resent you.
I mean I'm pretty sure that you are legally supposed to follow traffic laws, but I never see it enforced
Amazing...as a motorcycle rider, car driver, bike rider, and pedestrian ...I seem to be able to navigate all scenarios.....just fine.
Too many bikers believe that stop signs and red lights don't apply to them and dodge in and out of traffic. People will be on your side if you stop your friends from trying to off themselves under the tires of cars.
We aren't friends with everyone who bikes. Ps as a driver pls stop you friends who speed or go too close to bikes then we won't Haye you as much
I won't lie, for all I defend cars, it is a deeply satisfying feeling to glide by a dozen of them backed up at a red light and hit the intersection just as it turns green. It's extra fun when one of those cars JUST buzzed you close enough to reach out and grab his door handle at 10 over the limit only to get stuck and end up behind you again anyway.
It is 100% absolutely NOT safer to be on the road than sidewalks. The sidewalks are infinitely safer. That being said, it’s illegal to bike on the sidewalks in most places
And old women will assault you
Safer for no one but the biker
@@ulize. with that mindset sure. if you have any semblance of awareness and the ability to slow down at blind corners, it's safer for all parties involved to ride on the sidewalk. this coming from someone who rides on sidewalks all the time as it's legal where i am and in all the years of it have never had any problems with pedestrians.
we just need all forms of public and private transport so we don't have to rely too heavily on cars and be healthier
Exactly!
It’s illegal to ride on a sidewalk bc it’s technically counted as a vehicle, in some places.
That's not always the case. It differs A LOT between countries, cities and other variables such as the wideness of the sidewalk, existence of bike lanes, speed limits of roads, closeness to the city/town and size of said population, there are different maximum speed limits when allowed depending on several factors as well
@@shuepsx652 you’re right, I was thinking about where I live and not thinking about how they could be in another place! I’ll correct it!
Also, a bike is considered a vehicle. So as long as you're going with the traffic? You're allowed on the street.
I wish I could bike to work. But my work is literally on the outskirts of London where guys from st Thomas are going over 100km an hour.
Ooof that's a hard one :( be sure to bring up your concerns with your local politicians!
I guess you could get an electric unicycle and some motorcycle gear 😅 they can get up to some crazy high speeds!
I'm going to dabble in them in 2023!
The audacity of that intersection to have a bike lane after that street
Ikr 🙃
As someone who was mowed down by a car in bike friendly Denmark, and broke one knee and wrist, I would never in 1000 years bike in such a horrible bike-place 😅
It’s been almost 3 years and I still have pain in my joints, so I’m a bit traumatized, lol
I love the intersection trick, there was 1 where I used to live no bike infrastructure and a narrow busy bridge, just past a very busy high traffic intersection.
I would wait about 2 third the way back to the previous intersection in a driveway or a parking lot, and the second it went green I'd start towards the intersection, getting to it just before it turns red after all the traffic has cleared and before turning traffic is released, with enough momentum to propel myself up the bridge before the light turned green for turning traffic allowing me to being the easy desent as traffic entered the bridge again
Never had to slow them down, and had the 4 lane bridge practically to myself (and never ran a red light)
We need protected bike lanes so bad
My next video coming out actually goes over officially plannsd bike lanes on this road!
In Hungary it is legal. You are allowed to overtake the cars from right as long as they are standing (becouse of red light or traffic situation). If they moving, you aren't allowed to do.
I live in germany and we often have bike lanes on the street. The problem is that cars are sometimes allowed to drive on the bike lane until there is a biker. But when there’s a street light ahead there’s no way for the cars to get out of the way and you literally can’t drive further because we have way more narrow street lanes than in the US. So even in Germany where biking is way more common than in the US we also have some situations that are just plain stupid
This is my least favourite biking route in all of London. Even the bike lanes on Cheapside are awful for the first kilometre or so and barely get better after
I think there's some stuff in the works to fix up cheapside. I was just going over London's Cycling Master Plan 🤯
Two things: what's wrong with that ride, 2nd:what sidewalk
1. Riding on the sidewalk is both illegal and dangerous because each driveway instantly becomes an intersection which is a conflict point and drivers are not expecting cyclists on the sidewalk because it's illegal in the first place. Along with that they are traveling at much faster speeds than walkers or runners.
2. The sidewalk is in the video which also just shows you how dangerous it is to bike on the sidewalk because you can't even see the sidewalk in this video.. unless you look very closely on the right side of the road it's behind the line of trees on the right.
In my country you're legally allowed to drive by cars that have stopped for traffic reasons with your bicycle. They have to have stopped, though. Slowly inching forward and you'd have to wait behind them.
Motorists meanwhile often close the gap to the right, seemingly just because. That is they're waiting, see you coming (I guess) and with the next movement steer to the very right.
Others just don't get it, yell and swear when traffic moves again and they pass you. "Why don't you stay behind, ?!?" - "Because §8 section 5 road traffic act explicitly allows me to pass. While §185 criminal code forbids insults."
Sometimes they also break for no reason, suddenly close the gap between them and a parking car, just to scare you.
In fact I'm thinking about getting a dash cam for my bike and open a couple of cases. Not for anger issues, but it _really_ gets dangerous sometimes. Just because of some road rage out of envy. I've been a motorist for most of my life, I know the issues and ride with respectfulness of others. We all just want to reach our destination safely. Can't we just meet on the road in peace?
In my state bikes are required to follow the same laws as regular traffic. And while the state itself doesn't outright prohibit bikes from sidewalks, some cities do.
Yep, same. Illegal to ride on the sidewalk
You should make a full video about this.
Good idea! What talking points would you like to see and/or have me include? :)
@@BenDurham Maybe discuss alternative transportaion, walkable city planning, the recent movement towards better city planning, and maybe some more about your ebike and how its changed how you guys travel/get stuff done.
Sounds like a few really good videos there! I'll get on it ;P
Yet someone does that on a motorcycle and everyone loses their mind
Nah, you can filter with motorbikes.
@@BenDurham i agree. But a lot of people don’t
I love how the bike lane just appears...I hate that aspect of road riding, like I have my own space and then it's taken away from me. I just prefer the often empty sidewalks to avoid traffic or use residential streets as I can.
That's my old commute! Just across the intersection, the bike lane practically becomes 1000 cracks that are the perfect size to eat a road bike tire.
No bike lane means you must ride with traffic as you are actually a vehicle.
Traffic filtering and lane splitting are different
London, Ontario?
Yep!
@@BenDurham I live Hydepark/Fanshawe
Also, in states like Virginia, you can be ticketed for riding on a sidewalk as those are strictly for pedestrians, and a bicycle is classed as a road vehicle.
Yep! This is accurate in most places - including here in Canada.
In denmark, it is very illegal to bike on the sidewalk because its dangerous. When i went to canada, I've almost been hit by so many cyclists on the sidewalk. It just doesn't make sense for bikers to be using sidewalks.
ja, jeg kan ikke forstå hvorfor man ikke kan dele vejen
Lol London Town! Represent
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"Its more dangerous to cycle on the sidewalk because cars are not looking for you." My guy... CARS ARE ALREADY NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE SIDEWALK.
If you got a car on the sidewalk they are already clearly not giving a shit if you are on the road!
Guy must live in GTA land.
Do you not understand that driveways are a thing?
Since when is a driveway a sidewalk? And if there's a driveway it's pretty damn easy to see if a car is in it. If yes, if so idk use some caution like everyone else?
@@DTC-ex7wg Almost a third of sidewalks in residential areas are driveway exists, and a bike going 15mph isn't going to be able to see and respond fast enough to the car pulling out onto the sidewalk to be able to see potential cars.
@@DTC-ex7wgyou must not be American
Mississauga and Etobicoke guy here, sidewalks are lifesavers in these towns. I'll use a bike lane if there is one, but I've had to many people try to scare me with a honk as they pass or hit me as they pull out of a parking lot (fortuanetly at low speeds) to feel comfotable on the main roads. I might be moving slightly slower on the sidewalks due to the paving and pedestrians, but I've got a lower collision record there, and if I ever do hit a pedestiran we've both got a better chance of coming out unscathed.
As an aside to your aside, cars can do this (when they’re not caught behind 20 more) but usually don’t.
I get a lot of weird looks when I slow down really gradually for a stop, so it feels like the “smooth driving” trick (literally just always keeping track of the furthest point in your sight line, not just the car in front of you) my dad taught me is not employed by most.
If I slow down to 15 on my way to an intersection, rather than approaching it at 30 and coming to a rapid stop, there’s a decent chance the light might turn green before I stop moving completely, and rolling from 15 to 30 takes WAY less energy than 0 to 30. For similar fuel saving and traffic interruption reasons, you should also look as far ahead as possible on the highway, that way you can coast down rather than brake hard (which causes red light snakes) when you’re approaching traffic.
Just so you know, under Ontario rules it is illegal for a cyclist to pass cars on the right unless there is a dedicated bike lane or that the space available is wide enough for two cars to pass each other. Neither is true in this case, so all of your overtakes here are dangerous and illegal.
In this case the law requires you that you queue in traffic like any other vehicle since that what you are considered under the Highway Traffic Act in this situation.
Sidewalk riding, of course, is also illegal under the HTA.
Lane splitting in lane filtering are different and what I'm doing is filtering and is actually legal and encouraged.
Overtaking would imply that vehicles are moving and I am flooring it to pass them.
@BenDurham Sorry, under the Highway Traffic Act that is not at all accurate. I encourage you to review the rules laid out in the HTA before demonstrating illegal behaviours to other cyclists.
Should have to have a license plate and tabs to ride on the road. And hold a 2 wheel endorsement. See so many cyclists run red lights, stops signs, yield signs, ect.
I believe they tried that many years ago and it never worked out because the admin fees were never justified. Too much bureaucracy for something that doesn't actually work.
You see, when cars crash into things they can do millions of dollars in damages and kill people.
When a cyclist runs into someone or something, injuries and/or damages are far less severe. Also, drivers are typically in the wrong when they hit a cyclist and so their insurance justifiably covers the incident.
Otherwise, that's what insurance through a house or renter insurance is for. We actually end up having insurance for our bikes... But that's optional.
As for running the red lights, stop signs, yield signs, etc.. I've seen far too many drivers of vehicles do this as well. The difference, yet again, is if a car does it people die and if a cyclist does it, they're taking their life into their own hands.
That is the best way not to get hit
Stay away from vehicles and stop lights
To many people are on the phone or texting
Treat every vehicle as if they don't see you
See so many drivers speeding and texting . Ignorant comment
Nah
It's also illegal a lot of places for riders of a certain age (12 where I live) to ride on sidewalks. Sidewalks are for walking.
It's hard to explain all that to a driver as they zoom past you, blaring their horn and yelling, "get on the sidewalk you effing a hole!!!
Yeeeep! (See comment section full of these arguments lol)
Man. I was just in Poland and they have dedicated cycling lanes on both sides of most roads, with dedicated crosswalks and everything. It was surreal
My city removed one lane of traffic in each direction for buffered bike lanes to appease the spandex mafia.
Not to appease the spandex mafia but to make roads more fair and equitable.
Watch where you're going
Congrats to your city! Bike lanes are awesome.
Cycle vs Person is definitely less lethal than car vs cycle.
There's a big bike trail that crosses some semi-main roads in my town. I have had to stop suddenly before to avoid hitting cyclists who ride across the road without stopping to check for traffic. There is a flashing yellow sign that says stop for bicyclists, but it always flashes, and cyclists are not visible until they are very close to crossing the road. I am pretty sure there are stop signs on the bike path, intended for any cyclists to stop, but none of them can be bothered to stop.
I love living in the Netherlands. I can bike from my village to the nearby city without having to cycle on any busy roads. just neighbourhood roads where people are only allowed to drive 30km/h to 50km/h and bicycle lanes that have a bit of lawn between them and the car lane.
In the bigger cities it's a lil different because of how busy it can be, so gotta be more alert, though I don't cycle in big cities...
It's crazy to me how bicycle lanes aren't all that common everywhere.
I like the fact that he says to watch out for the pedestrians on the sidewalk, who are not on the sidewalk... Or anywhere else....
Technically, you are the fast moving vehicle passing all those slow ones. So it's technically legal for you to pass them all on the left side. It's safer that way too because there's more room on the left side than between all those cars and the curb.
It must feel so good to bike past the terrible line of car traffic 😊👍
Yes, when I ride to work there's a couple of roads where I pass all the cars that passed me for the previous 15 minutes.
London is the absolute worst for cycling. I find a lot of elder drivers seem to have a problem with it more than most. Some dude on dundas ended up purposely side swiping me and caused me to crash. Just be careful and safe. Ride on homie!
Tried biking from work to home, first half was goat heads, and next to no sidewalk, what little sidewalk there was, was overtaken by bushes and trees, so they were un-usable
I ride on the sidewalk all the time in my town. It's legal to do so and so much safer than fighting cars on the road.
As a fellow Londoner, please amplify it for the other cyclists: Stay off our sidewalks! So many cyclists in this community refuse to follow any rules, and then they complain that the streets are too dangerous....
There's a “bike lane” here now, but I can understand why people don't feel safe biking with only paint “protecting them” them. Please write your ward councillor and let them know that PROTECTED bike lanes are required so people on bikes have a real alternative to biking on the sidewalk.
Better think about hitting those green lights just in time.
People on the cross street will commonly run the "early" red light and if you pop through legally when the light just changes you may encounters one of these drivers.
Where I'm from (in USA) you have to ride bikes on sidewalks with helmets. You're not allowed to go into the roadway with them and we have some nice big sidewalks. Idk I find places with bike lanes strange cause the bike lanes are always poorly placed.