They needed a larger engines, and the time to market for a new engine would take too long. When we first saw the mockup in 2021 my guess was the William FJ44-4 series, which is the only one that would make sense, and they would need to cruise at FL470 for the range claim. Honda had the same idea :) I expect that the final specifications on the aircraft will change over the next few years. It is a beautiful aircraft and should be very popular in the market.
@@crwmdp9 Runway excursions are still a big problem. As a CFI for 40+ years, the most common issue is pilots not flying stabilized approaches, usually too fast. There are other factors as well such as landing on runways too short, especially when wet/contaminated. You can see that example with the Phenom 300 in Hawthorne --- way too fast and runway too short and not grooved. Training, at least at Flight Safety, is excellent but once pilots leave training, regretfully they don't always follow the proper profiles.
The headroom is similar to other jets in its class, e.g. CJ4. Tigre is in the video and fits in the seats, especially when sliding the seat out from the fuselage. For more room the options would be a PC-24 or Phenom 300, both nice but much less range. Other options include the Ascend, which has more room but is slower with less range--- then of course there are much larger jets. It is always a trade-off - size, range, acquisition/operating costs, speed. My guess is the Echelon will be faster than it's direct competitors, with a probably max cruise of 0.78M
It is difficult to say what the price will be in 2028-2030 when the production version is released. In today's market, in comparison with a CJ4, Phenom 300, or PC-24, and possibly the XLS+ - I would estimate $14.5-15 million.
Awesome looking jet
It sure is! Looking forward to seeing it as the complete bird.
PC24 is the Queen!! But Honda, if for a while, will forget about USA market, will get there!
PC24 is impressive, esp with new mods starting with SN 501. Will have our video on that one up soon!
Good review. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
It is cramped. But it beats flying commercial
Checkout out video review on the Airbus 220 for a larger jet.
It’s a great value, and fuel consumption is also very good. Honda makes a great jet.
I hear that!😊
reminds me of the Learjet 45/75....not much market for that now!
It's nice. My wife likes the long ones (why she married me) so she wants this jet.
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wait...
What is the price!!!!!
where do you store the mattress when not in use?
great question. likely folded up and on a seat or aisle.
Is this the most fuel efficient plane in its class?
It does have that potential.
What’s up with those thick partitions in the cockpit windows jeez
Because thats what $12mil gets you…
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big windows that are head level, how is that possible?
when seated
GE Honda are not making the engines? I guess it would take to long to develop and certify and probably cost too much to make more powerful engines.
They needed a larger engines, and the time to market for a new engine would take too long. When we first saw the mockup in 2021 my guess was the William FJ44-4 series, which is the only one that would make sense, and they would need to cruise at FL470 for the range claim. Honda had the same idea :)
I expect that the final specifications on the aircraft will change over the next few years. It is a beautiful aircraft and should be very popular in the market.
Be nice if the current Honda Jets would quit running off wet runways.
not the plane’s fault…
@@PersonalWings I would agree for the most part but a high incident rate. So something is lacking. Could be a training issue .
@@crwmdp9 Runway excursions are still a big problem. As a CFI for 40+ years, the most common issue is pilots not flying stabilized approaches, usually too fast. There are other factors as well such as landing on runways too short, especially when wet/contaminated. You can see that example with the Phenom 300 in Hawthorne --- way too fast and runway too short and not grooved. Training, at least at Flight Safety, is excellent but once pilots leave training, regretfully they don't always follow the proper profiles.
Tiny, fine if you are small of frame, but anyone approaching 6' with broad shoulders it is hell.
It is about the same size as the Citation 525 series, once seated it is comfortable, but definitely not as tall a cabin as the XLS, or other jets
No headroom too cramped
The headroom is similar to other jets in its class, e.g. CJ4. Tigre is in the video and fits in the seats, especially when sliding the seat out from the fuselage. For more room the options would be a PC-24 or Phenom 300, both nice but much less range. Other options include the Ascend, which has more room but is slower with less range--- then of course there are much larger jets. It is always a trade-off - size, range, acquisition/operating costs, speed. My guess is the Echelon will be faster than it's direct competitors, with a probably max cruise of 0.78M
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Price tag? Guaranteed $$$,$$$,$$$.$$ out of my league. 🫣
It is difficult to say what the price will be in 2028-2030 when the production version is released. In today's market, in comparison with a CJ4, Phenom 300, or PC-24, and possibly the XLS+ - I would estimate $14.5-15 million.