Runge Metalshaping Series Part 1: Pattern Making & Reading Panels
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2023
- In this video Chris covers the process of pattern making for a bespoke, coachbuilt vehicle. Patterns are used as templates to determine the shape cut from the parent metal used in the vehicles skin. Similar to tailoring a suit, the craftsman must read the body form to identify where seams need to be made according to both the tooling and the material being used.
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Chris - that was a fantastic description of the thought process that goes into pattern development. Your style of description is comprehensive, clear, and easy to follow. You are doing the metalshaping community a great service by freely sharing much of what you have learned on your journey!
Thanks so much Ron, That means a lot! Hope to connect again when you’re out this way!
@RUNGECARS Congratulations. We know Ron is a gentleman, but a compliment from Ron shows how good are your work. And thanks for the video series we need to pass this art for the new generation.
@i love following you from # YSW 🇨🇦 and Ron Covell Wray Schelin Thank you kindly for your videos and time you take to make these videos 😊😊😊😊😊
Great, great video. Thank you for taking the time to talk through each basic step.
I love how you explain your processes! There are some people on CZcams trying to teach, yet they talk so darn much that I get bored and move on!
Thanks for the feedback Mark! I hope the videos can help people get into shaping and bringing their ideas to life!
I've watched a lot of metal shaping and not a single other one has explained this most important starting point anywhere anywhere near so clear. The way you convey the necessary thought process is fantastic. To have the end goal in your mind and mentally work backwards in order to get to a start point and a direction to physically work forward. You've nailed it, thank you so much.
I’m really enjoying this new regularly scheduled programming 😊 it’s a real treat to have so much new content !!
I agree ☝️
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I'm amazed there's not more views on this guys videos. They're very enjoyable to watch and he seems to have more skill and integrity than most other metal work videos I've seen.
Thank you for sharing this. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
Can't thank enough for all the great advices and sharing your knowledge..now, let's get in the shop!
Fantastic lesson. Now it all clicks for me. Thanks for sharing.
making beautiful music out of aluminum .... listen to the sound of construction - how glorious the orchestra of art
This is way different than I'm used to seeing on your channel. I really like it, and I hope others do as well so we can get more of this. Thanks.
Thank You! If you dig back into my older vids there are a couple instructional you might like! We will be filming a lot more as well👊🏻
It’s cathartic and fascinating I will never look a a toaster the same again 😎
On the initial viewing, a lot went past me. I again watched it recently and understood everything. Perhaps I'm ready to tackle aluminum fab work, just the time I quit working. Thanks Chris.
Chris, thanks for making these! Im realy excited to see your methods as the cars are soooo beautiful. I know YT takes some of your valuable time but hopefully it can start paying you back in the long run. Thanks again!
That’s for doing this!! I am keeping track of the “getting started tools”
hello from France I watch you at your first videos whoua what a great job bravo for this series your channel misses it, super happy to see you working a little more on your cars.
I am glad I am not the only one who has trouble getting those shears to work! Great video, looking forward to more!
Thank you
Nice!!!!! Somehow, I missed this part when it dropped. Loving the content.
Super enjoying , instruccional and helpfull video , also really cool shop !! Many thanks !!
Almost all of the shears use a Kett Brand head. Also, I walk around with a razor blade in my mouth once in a while to L O L. My sons think I’m crazy but it’s a convenient place to keep it when you’re busy. Lol
Excellent insight into the process of metal shaping using a buck.
Huge thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and process!
I watched video two then this one. I can never follow directions lol. Glad to see more videos of you making a car.
Very very educational. Thanks for the great presentation.
This is gold. Thanks so much 4 sharing your knowledge.
Great video Chris. Your shop is incredible .
Show us your craft. We can't get enough.
Chris you are a natural teacher, your style of teaching is up there with your incredible metal work skill. cant wait for the next one
Thanks Matthew! Look forward to sharing more of the builds here!
These are the videos I always hoped you'd make. post WWII cars are my favorite era of cars too!
Takes back to youth wheeling panels for the Harrier Jump jet out of 3/16 2024 alloy
Extremely interesting and useful, certainly!!
Beautiful way to share what goes into making beautiful objects. I wonder how many people appreciate quality and design in society. Maybe they shall be inspired watching you delivering high quality elegant design and the work ethic and attention to detail that seems to be the default value for you. Some of us will never be able to afford to commission you to make one of these vehicles or have the means (time/money/skills) to self build either, so for us this is the closest we shall get to beauty. Thank you for sharing and hopefully inspiring many to strive for doing their best in whatever they maybe doing.
Dude, you are inspiring me to do what you do. I want to make my own Lotus 22-like road-legal racecar.
Well you got me with this video. I'm now an official subscriber! I've always admired your cars but I'm really excited to see some of the process and how you work through problems and design changes. Have you kicked around the idea of a motorcycle? With your design and style I bet a cool vintage looking bike is just waiting to come together.
Thanks for Subscribing! I have thought about doing a motorcycle but I've yet to wrap my head around a design... Someday though!
This is great. I saw your first appearance on Jay's channel so I've admired your work for a long time. Please retire that Milwaukee. You deserve better. Do it now!
Wonderful insight into your process... Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
Thanks Chris,very informative.looking forward to your next steps
Fascinating, and superbly explained.
❤ Great channel, great video!
Another great video. Keep them coming...
This is amazing. I learn so much from your skills. Thank you.
A hi from Greece!I've been waiting so much time for this kind of video series..... And when master shapers as Mr Covell are watching.... Wow.... Keep doing what you are doing.....
Awesome, thx for sharing your knowledge!
Good explanation .
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Well done Chris. Thank you for sharing your insights! As for cutting sheet metal product; I’ve been through side-shears/scissor shears, nibblers, 3-jaw shears similar to your Milwakee. They are all a PITA. My go-to is a cordless Makita jig saw. It can cut straight using a fence, curves down to ½” radius and holes to 1” diameter. Edges can be cleaned up with a quick wack of a file or a sanding block. The “good blades” are so good (and inexpensive) these days, that you smoke through 0.020 to 0.250 without a thought.
Would sure like to see an episode of just how you bend all the aluminum tubing that goes under the structure..noting what size and type of tubing, which bender(s) you use, etc. Great work and appreciate you teaching us and sharing your well-earned knowledge.
Great video.
Love your style. I'll be watching your series.
Stunning workmanship 👌🏻
Just brilliant, really enjoyed this one!!
Love your comments about the tool, we've all been there! Also..... we see some of your shop background in the video... maybe it is time for a new shop tour video?
Fantastic that you are doing this series. On a side note, I now aspire to have a workshop with rugs in it.
Thank you for committing to this amazing educational series. Excellent content and professional. The 1" demo was killer and provided a great take-away on how to know that your wheels are true to each other. I suspect you went wood buck vs. wire/tube frame for ease of fabrication to ensure your CAD shapes were 100% spot on less material thickness. Maybe you could touch on your thought process here as well as why it doesn't appear to have holes for use in clamping. I'm looking forward to watching each new video and your progress. Thanks again!!
Thanks for the kind words Chris. I realize we skipped some important details here! I did end up drilling holes for clamping as I've been moving along. Regarding the tube buck. I've found that it is really handy for a quick one-off shape but since we have multiple orders for the RS I decided to bite the bullet and build this new buck. I also think building off of this buck, with it being so robust... has already proven to be much more efficient and accurate than the tubes.
@ Thanks for the feedback. Curious, given your experience, I realize that you don't transfer paper pattern folds to use as shrink locations. That said, however, it may be interesting for your views to see how that pattern mirrored to what you actually shrunk.
Capturing that era, you have in your mind makes your cars beautiful. your build procedure is well planned and executed, I think it's better than Ferrari and Porsche.
Thank you for sharing, looking forward to seeing this take shape
You're making it look so easy.. lol.. great vid to kick off the series.. maybe one day we'll pop some molds and do a carbon fiber one! Lol
Excellent production quality and teaching technique. I am surprised how humble you are given what you have produced. Great ambassador for our art and you can tell you are thinking about what you can pass down to the next generation in What you are doing! Thank you
My Harbor Freight pneumatic shears have giving me a lot of use. It's a little finicky but even back then, I was told the expensive ones were too. I'm trying out Ryobi's 18-Gauge Offset Shear. I like it so far and there is always the shear on the beading machine.
Really looking forward to the next episode
Incredible skill. Great video.
Great stuff! Thanks
Thanks for more regular and informative content. Really appreciate it!
Fantastic video, thank you for sharing.
Thank you Chris! It was very interesting, looking forward to the next videos. This is exactly what I need, because Im going to create my first aluminim body!
It would be cool to see chassis marriage and engine mounting as well. Leather and gauge assembly as well. Logo placement and Quirk's and Features as Doug Murro says will be cool too.
Thanks for doing these. You have an excellent teaching style.
Wow..... Too good 💯💯 greetings from India 🤘🤘😎
Very interesting! Thank you!
GREAT Work very inspiring
Wray raves, or is that wrayves, about his Bosch cordless shear. Might be worth a try.
Cordless side sheer. Metabo makes a fairly cheep one that cuts metal like butter. I highly recommend!
Thanks for the tip, I’m going to look it up!
Looks like the Amazon has them now too!
Excellent videos btw, looking forward to the next in this series. Thanks for taking the time!
Good Video I like to see or get info on building the wooden bucks .
This video series is a goldmine, your explanations are easy to understand and concise.
Sadly regulations here are too crazy to even think about building a car.. getting it through the TÜV is way too expensive.
Are there any Rünge cars in europe?
Your cars are incredible, would love to one.. one day i hope :)
Does Rünge have to do crash testing? I can't imagine how a small company like yours would handle that.
I always thought that Kett was the metal shear to have. Mine works a treat. Great video!
I will look that up. Have not heard of it!
I went from Milwaukee to Kett, not long after using My Kett I gave the Milwaukee away.
True art. I thought maybe the body was a P4 but not even close.
Nice explanation working process
Great material, well presented. I've done a bit of what you are demonstrating (self taught as well) and it's very interesting to see where our experiences overlap and where they diverge. Lose the shears, they are killing you.
I'm subscribed.
So what model / brand were your first shears?
Looking over your shoulder, & you explaining what you are thinking feels like a master class. Following.
The first shears were Menards Brand, they were nearly identical to the Milwaukee… but actually worked!
@ I have had really good results with my Harbor Freight one cutting 5052-H32 in 0.040 and 0.063.
Little oil will help a lot when cutting
Thank you for sharing ing your skills! You mentioned in the video that you are offering classes?
If you look at jerry Seinfeld s old Porsches. They still have hammer n dolly marks in em. Which I think is pretty cool
thanks for taking the time to create and upload this wonderful video. it is extremely helpful to a beginner like myself. am looking forward to watching the series. question: where do get hold of a 906 canopy? are they made on order for you?
Aircraft Windshield Company in California has the molds for many rare old cars. 👍🏻
You could in bed neodymium magnets all around that wood Buck, to be able to adhere your paper to quickly and easily very repeatable.
Fantastic idea, I might end up trying this!
Fantastic series! I build large model airplanes and the techniques you share are very helpful.
Great insight into the thought process and early stages of pattern making, but what's up with the tiny dancing dude near the end?? 😂 31:15
I'm very interested in your projects. Can you tell me about the 914 on the lift behind you.
I have the same Milwaukee shear and it's a pain. I broke the bottom blade and just used a replacement from Harbor freight, it works better now. Is that a '79 BMW 320i under the rack?
I bpught a dress pattern once. I dont think the women believed me for one bit as to why. I could tel by their smirks. It showed me things, but was more about chuncks cut out . I guess it did show me with metal you have to sneak up on it all the way along. Thats all i have to say. Oh and more of this please.
How would I get a buck files for a Mercedes Gull wing front clip or a Cobra, or a Porsche 911 front nose only?
Can you tell me what program you use to create the 3D model?
I’m curious of any reading material or resources you would recommend? What were you getting your knowledge from early on?
Great question, There are a lot of books on the subject. To be honest I have not spent a lot of time reading up on the craft. The majority of what I share is from what I've learned hands on in my shop. I did however buy this DVD when I first became interested in shaping and it is very insightful and teaches how to move metal with basic tools around a home workshop. stakesys.co.uk/david-gardiner-s-bodywork-restoration-tutorial-dvd
After the prototype is dialed in , wouldn't it be cost effective to scan each panel and the stamp each piece then trim for fit , or are you trying to avoid that and keep it %100 hands on? I used to have a 71 Fiat Spyder (super fun car) and watch videos about how Fiat had ten guys pounding body panels with mallets on tree stumps. Great stuff
How thick is that aluminum sheet you are cutting?
When bringing the metal over the peak of the fender, would it be practical to cut pie shaped pieces out and weld instead of doing all the shrinking?
If you have no way to shrink, pie cuts can be done… it ultimately results in a lot of finish work and in most cases a lot of body filler. I have seen guys pie cut to a tighter radius than needed and hammer/dolly it back out to a pretty smooth finish…
@ Thanks !
When your are developing the buck, is it the actual surface value or is it one surface value removed to account for the thickness of the panels being laid on top of it?
The .063 material is removed.
@ thank you
How to make such a model (frame) of a car? This is a parametric model, if not, what is it called?
Have you thought of going to full aluminum monocoque?
I have drawn up a monocoque and hope to make it at some point. I was given blueprints and over 1100 photos of a Lola T160 in period and during restoration that I have modeled it after. I hope to do it for my own personal build someday!
@ Awesome. That would be amazing to see. Ever think about going electric?
Don't you use any eye protection??