Stan Lee - Creating The Fantastic Four (15/42)
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The creative genius of US writer Stan Lee (1922-2018) generated 'Spider Man', 'X-Men', 'The Hulk' and other complex characters. Marvel Comics with Lee at the helm became hugely successful. In January 2011, Lee received the 2428th star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. [Listener: Leo Bear; date recorded: 2006].
TRANSCRIPT: While I was working for Marvel, the first 20 years or so I was just doing regular comics. Then after a while I really wanted to quit, 'cause I felt while Martin Goodman was a great guy and a good publisher, I didn't like really what he wanted me to do. He kept… he… he felt comics were just for young kids or stupid adults, and he used to say to me: ‘Remember Stan, don't use words of more than two syllables, don't have too much dialogue. Get a lot of action and don't worry about characterization’. And that was fine. I was doing it and the books were doing well, and I had a steady job, but it wasn't satisfying, 'cause I really think of myself as a reasonably good writer. I like to write. So I really wanted to quit and to try something else, and I remember Joan said to me: ‘You know Stan, if you want to quit, before you do why don't you do one book the way you would like to do it. The worst that happens is Martin will fire you, and so what? You want to quit anyway’.
So coincidentally, at that time he had found out that our competitor, DC Comics - which called itself National Comics in those days - they had done a book called The Justice League of America - a group of superheroes - and it was selling very well. And he said to me: ‘Stan, why don't you do a book about a group of superheroes’. So I figured this is my chance to do it my way. So I came up with something I called The Fantastic Four about four superheroes, but instead of making them heroes who wore costumes I figured, I'm not going to give them costumes, 'cause I always felt if I had a superpower, why would I want to put on a costume? First of all, I'm too much of a show off. I'd want everybody to know it's me I would never wear a mask. And why would I need a costume? If I could jump over a building, I don't have to wear a colorful costume I'll just jump over the building. At any rate, I didn't give them costumes and I tried to make them real characters living in the real world. The hero wasn't just a perfect guy; he was a fellow like me. He talks too much. He's a scientist - quite boring - he was always boring the others 'cause when he explained anything he went on forever, and one of the other guys was always saying, ‘Will you shut up’. And the obligatory teenager in the group, instead of just… like Robin with Batman who just runs around and fights the bad guys with him, I made this teenager a guy who didn't want to be a super hero particularly. He wanted… he was like I would have been when I was a teenager. He wanted to go out with girls and ride a sports car and so forth. And the… and the girl, instead of an obligatory female who always has to be rescued and doesn't know who the hero really is, she was the hero's fiancée. She knew who he was, the all knew who they were, and she also had a superpower that was as good as anyone else's, so she was a fighting member of the team. And the fourth guy was a monster. They… something had happened to him and he became very ugly and incredibly strong, and I used him for both pathos and humor 'cause he was always fighting with the others - not physically but verbally. Always insulting them and yelling at them, and he was hot-tempered, and he was always picking on The Human Torch - that was the teenager - who was always picking on him, and I got a lot of comedy out of them. I called him The Thing, and he became by far and away the most popular member of the group. Well at any rate… Oh, and another thing, Instead of having them live in a… fictional place like Metropolis or Gotham City, I plonked them right down in New York City and… 'cause I knew New York City, I could write about New York City and I figured, why not let them live in a real place? And instead of driving a car like an 8-cylinder Whizz-bang, I had them drive… I had Johnny drive a Chevy Corvette, and I had them live on the East Side, and the… I forget where, near Madison Avenue. And when they went to a theater they didn't go to The Bijou, they went to The Radio City Music Hall. Tried to keep everything as realistic as possible, even though it was just a comic… superhero comic. Well the book did wonderfully. It sold great, but a funny thing happened. I got a lot of fan mail, and we had almost never gotten fan mail before. And all the letters said essentially the same thing...
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I could sit and listen to him tell stories all day.
Me too It keeps u entertained and want to know more from him he's one of my heroes and my other hero is walt Disney
Yeah, he always had that charisma. What an icon.
i know! i love and miss stan lee so much!
Same
Dude I literally just did lmao
RIP Stan. Thank you for influencing my life like no other.
Love how Stan casually said THE JLA made him do a Superhero team. Just shows how often and how normal it was for Marvel and DC to take inspiration from one another and give these ideas their own take and touch. While Fanbois these days are triggered by this small fact
I want a grandad like Stan, always has a story to tell, always has new ideas, always smiling
RIP Stan Lee. I miss him.
RIP Joan Lee
Well technically they still don't wear costumes. The Fantastic Four's outfits are more like team uniforms then traditional superhero costumes in my book.
But I think it would have been cool that they wear regular clothes, i think it's more realistic
Like Jack Kirby's Challengers of the Unknown
@@SonPerrosJugandoAlPoker no, how will human torch, sue and Mr. Fantastic use their powers
@@zacqwan3525 Buying new clothes
@@SonPerrosJugandoAlPoker bruh ☠️
That was a phenomenal call by Stan. It's amazing to me how both FF and Spider-Man who are two of my favorite properties of Marvel happened due to pure accident and risk taking since neither were expected to be successes, but it's that exact realism which Stan Lee added which made those characters so engaging. Like the powers at that point are simply an icing on the cake, the true spotlight takes this phenomenal family dynamic you can create
It’s so unfortunate that we can’t hear many others stories which stan lee has created. Rip legend.
You will always be my superhero and legend.
RIP Stan. Thank you so much for the wonderful world you create.
I could just sit an listen to him talk about how he created every single one of his characters and I wouldn't get bored
R.I.P Legendary Stan Lee thank you for all the heros you gave us
Respect Stan
I read comics as a kid. Loved the Marvel line because of the writing and the use of science and mythology. They weren't your regular type comics, they made you feel as if you were. Thanks to Stan Lee and other comic book writers, I got hooked in reading as I got older. I read a lot as I grew up. Probably thousands of books over the years. I still read a lot to this day. Reading helped me with learning new words and that translated to my speaking and with words I was not familiar with, I was able to figure out what the word I was unfamiliar with, what it meant.
❤️❤️miss him glad I got to meet him
Thgedgsdgesd
I like seeing Stan Lee
I wouldn't be surprised if Stan came up with Ben Grimm and Johnny Storm after watching a Bonanza episode back in the late fifties-early sixties, The Thing and The Torch remind me so much of Little Joe and Hoss Cartwright, their bickerings as well !
This is why I love the F4
They are basically everyday people.
Family, celebrities, smart asses (the thing), their differing interests.
Writer and a good story teller,love him ❤️❤️❤️
Only man who succeed from imagine lies while enjoying them.😂
Thanks for ur service stan
Genius
I just recently came up with two strange alien bad guys and they are THE SHAPEMAKER and THE COMBINATOR that no human being on earth could not handle them just as strange like PRINCESS POMPADORA herself.
My most favorite superhero team 😊
Thankyou sir for your contribution in the creation of comics and super.
The FF didn't wear costumes in their first 2 issues because they were distributed by DC, who didn't want any superhero competition, So Stan had the covers highlight the monstrous nature of their foes so they could pass as monster stories. Once they took off, they were launched in issue 3 with full costumes as DC could no longer complain.
He’s like a grandpa talking about superhero’s it’s amazing
I already came up with some strange weird planets for aliens like ATMOSPHERIA MULTIIPLON EBONY ASTEROID ZANTARIA HELLION THE WOODEN WORLD with the characters that lived made.
The Fantastic Ratio. It works.
One day, I think they will call this, Neo-American Mythology.
Ya stan not to much dialogue amazing spider man issues take forever to read
Stan lee Is the most awesome creator of all time but if I was much more different like him the princess pompadoura episodes liked HUMANPROOF The INVADERS From The SUN The INVISIBLE POMPADOURIANS The SPELLBOUNDING BOMB The Day The WARWORKERS DISAPPEARED FATAL FALSE PRETENSES The INVISIBLE PRINCESS POMPADOURA IMAGE INVASION and for others it would be sensational of the horrors of the second war and the atomic age as well.
I never thought about how they have the a uniform instead of a costume.
John Constantine and The Punisher doesn't wear costumes
He was talking about the traditional superhero costumes that were established in the 1930s-1960s. Punisher was created in 1974 & John Constantine was created in 1985 (the era where comic books began to make mature content).
Punisher kind of does.
So DC had a successful group of heroes....
And Goodman suggested doing a comic of a group of heroes united as a team.....
And Kirby created Challengers of the Unknown 5 years earlier for DC...about a quartet who resolve to band together after a crash landing....
And Challengers of the Unknown had a character named Rocky, who was shot into space and returned with multiple superpowers, including invisibility, flame throwing, and super strength.....
And Kirby created 25 or so pages of FF #1 plot and imagery from a one-page outline Stan gave him....
....and somehow it's Stan's creation?
Marvel and the MCU never happen without Lee, as he was their greatest salesman. Credit given.
The greatest character Stan Lee ever created was Stan Lee.
But be real about who did what.
If asked, Stan never denied credit to his "artists"....but he never corrected people who gave him the sole title of "creator" or "writer," which is - at best - a half-truth. His failure to tell the whole truth is a stain on his immense legacy.
Never knew that! So, the FF are basically the Challengers of the Unknown in a different suit.... 🤔
But, be that as it may, Stan Lee’s creates other characters which were pretty successful....
Tektoniks Architects He always says he’s the co-creator of Spider-Man with Steve Ditko, rather than the only creator. And he also said at times that he would give people like Kirby and Ditko outlines for them to work off of; giving them trust to come up with great stories along with the illustrations they create.
@godzillarex888 Good one
I love the sarcastic tone of your comment lol
Stan was idea guy
Try and do research stan was co plotter and editor
It didn’t stain anything. Good try.
He didn't like the costumes? Thank God Kirby did the art instead of Lee.
I think
I feel like other than Spiderman, The fantastic four were Stan Lee's favorite superhero, but sadly all their movie were meh at best
The fantastic Four wasn't totally original for Stan. The Human Torch character wasn't created by him (neither was the often supporting character in the FF, the Sub-Mariner).
Bullshit
Jack Kirby created Fantastic Four
They both did
Jack kirby and stan lee as a team created them
The way he's Absolutely lying about it and everyone is just Straight up eating it. Kirby was the one who actually created F4 not him
The way he fucked over Jack "king" Kirby was disgraceful how he lives with himself and crows about HIS achievements is disgusting.
MrCrispian language
My granpa create fantastic 4
For me personally, the F4 is kind of boring very grey group in comparison with X-Men, Justice League or Avengers.
In all honesty, I would even forget that they exist and only remember them when I come across characters like Doctor Doom and maybe Silver Surfer.
Well in my opinion they are pretty awesome, they just work in my mind
people in the 60s disagree with you if they were as boring as you think they will not be selling more than the justice league or the xmen back in the 60s
@@ismailmounsif1109 people in the 60s is the key point here.
Back in 60s Xmen didn't have the background developed and the art was outright horrible. But they are lightyears away from the 60s today.
"People back in 60s"