Extended Highlights - Stage 16 - Tour de France 2023
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“Today you show the world who is the strongest!!
Pogacar finish 2nd, so he is also strong, but you kill it!! You kill it!! Come on, so proud of you!! To the line Jonas!!”
Goosebumps
Incredible how Jonas has been leading the tour most of the time and everybody was only talking about Pogacar. Pogacar was still the favorite to win the tour on most bookmakers until today.... Vingegaard silenced everybody with today's performance
Because one is a showman, the other is lowkey.
That was his plan. Letting Tadej expend tons of energy clawing back mere seconds, all the while, KNOWING he had the TT in his back pocket. Turns out, actions DO speak louder than words.
Absolutely... Someone even said Jonas is a weak leader
Absosultely Vingergegard is great ,he is just more silent
last year clearly he smash tadej in TT only slowed just to give time to his team mate wout van Aert
I like that Jonas is more humble, doesn't talk too much or he doesn't have others talking too much about him. He just does the job.
Both are humble tbh. It's honestly so weird to me that people think Pogacar is not humble...
@@BasicBodThor True. Pogacar seems a bit more at ease in front of the camera, but I think VG is just more of a private person.
jonas is a pedophile
Make no mistake, Pogacar rode a Very fast ITT. Only that Jonas was an Alien today. Mind boggling.
even lance was never so obvious, this is a disgrace to this sport.
@@finiteautomata3888 you're right. Pogacar said after the TT that he didn't feel well on the last half of the TT. Pogacar didn't have a bad day. But a slightly below his normal stardards day. So Pogacar would normally have been at least 50-60 seconds faster than he was.
But again....Pogacar took the day off yesterday. Jonas drove and studied the course more than twice. Add that Jumbo have spent countless hours with Jonas in wind tunnel to optimize his position on the bike. People screaming doping don't understand just how much more high tech science is important to riders today. Back in tour de epo days. You could have riders sitting like an arse on their bikes and still preforming like supermen. This you don't see today. Jonas simply didn't make a single mistake on a TT that was very technical and had climbing meters and % more for mountain stages.
@@franci4434 "even lance was never so obvious, this is a disgrace to this sport."
1. VG was more aggressive in cornering and descents. To the point of gaining 2 seconds on Pog by the first corner.
2. VG did better cornering and descents.
3. VG had the better form and thus better aerodynamics.
4. VG did not change bikes. Pog did change bikes and while it was a decent bike change, it still cost time 15 seconds plus.
5. It was a hot day and allegedly VG does better in the heat than Pog does.
6. VG said it was the best bike ride he ever did.
7. Pog said he struggled at the end.
It all adds up to a major difference.
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"even lance was never so obvious, this is a disgrace to this sport."
No, what is disgraceful, are baseless insinuations and accusations.
@@nt78stonewobble of course it was the best ride he ever did, even he was suprised how well he did. he was so druged up he couldn't even control a realistic time for this tt. it is a disgrace and it's so obvious that it is pathetic.
@marijancapelj8108 I guess it's only realistic is Pogacar wins. Hehee. Anyways, one thing is obvious, speed aside, VG's bike handling yesterday was top notch and took more risks, could be the difference.
The gaps inside the stage's top 10 are absolutely ridiculous. Everyone is tight and then you have the two freaks, with Vingegaard being even more alien than Pogacar. It's just insane how an athlete can distance himself so much from other world-class athletes.
it helps that it's 2 weeks in to a grand tour where the other riders are on their limits or redlining almost everyday trying to survive or ride for their team mates.
This is why Tour de France is a very special race : recovering fast and saving your energy are crucial during the last week and creates the gaps you're talking about.
Juice... being juiced always helps.
@@JohnDoe-kg6gy still incredible. Even Juiced.
WVA is not on his best form and some other riders who would do well on a TT with steep climbs are not participating in this tour
Just remember that last year, Jonas could have also won the ITT but he let his teammate WVA win the stage. He’s always that good on time trial it’s just this time around, he didn’t hold back.
i love the coach of the jumbo team he gets me fired up sitting in front of the pc
This TT will be remembered decades from now! EPIC!
Jonas weapon like descending skills on the TT bike. Superb ride and win, he was world class in every regard today.
I think people need to realise that Pogacar TT is NOT bad or unimpressive at all... boy still lead 1 minute from Van aert it just Jonas was absolutely flying today with no mistakes were made from him, he was flying right from the freaking start!! Jonas absolutely well deserved, i hope TJV has a good strategy from tomorrow to keep on the Yellow Jersey,,, 🎉🎉🎉🎉😊
even lance was never so obvious, this is a disgrace to this sport.
@@franci4434 must annoying being so butthurt...
You are on every video and every comment...
Pretty crazy wva was even 3th to be honest... a climbing tt at that
@@franci4434 Lance couldnt do this cause everyone was doped. There was already enough evidence to kill lance in 1999 positive EPO tests 2 witnesses speaking about his doping first hand experience etc. Im sorry to destroy your Idol but lance was nothing without dope his physique didnt make any sense he was 75 kg and the strongest climber. He was in his 30's Nothing about lance made sense. He placed low in GC for the first 3 tours comes back after cancer and destroys everyone, Without dope he would not be anything GC related. He might have been a Classics rider but thats it, maximum a rider like Van aert. Lances Vo2max was around 80 - that means you dont win GC, impossible but it was boosted by EPO and kept secret later on.
The fact is this descrepancy we see here with Pogacar and Vingegaard is exactly why we can know there is not doping or very little doping today. Its a bellcurve thing There are the rare outliers that will blow everyone away. You have einstein in physics today the 2 highest IQs have 10% higher IQ than anybody else in the world.
Jonas and pogacar are complete outliers They have the right age, they have the complete build for climbing - especially Jonas who is built like pantani. They have insane Vo2maxes - fx. Jonas was as a teen measured as the second highest Vo2max ever measured - as 16 years old. You have to expect this discrepancy in this case.
His heart is reportedly 15% bigger/more effective than other sports athletes compared to size.
In many sports we see someone blow the field away, in sports where doping doesnt decide. In chess, in tennis, in football. It is purely a 90 and 00s maybe early 10s thing. You cant blood your blood today like they did back then period impossible. And boosting your blood is the only way you can get any significant advantage in cycling. You can dope theoreticly in tiny tiny amounts, with extreme risk, but theoreticly possible. But that sure does not produce descrepancies that would even the field more. Doping evens the field no doping have complete outliers its a bellcurve.
Noone has come out about pogacar or Vingegaard about doping, back then in 00s and 90's everybody on teams knew. And the info was out people just didnt listen, before evidence was so abundant that it was bound to happen.
Just amazing! The little details of the highlights are awesome! Gives justice to the hardship of the athletes! Cheers 🍻🥂
The video presentation each stage gets better and better. Kudos to the people behind these videos 💪💪💪💪
Sitting with my mouth open here, wow, what a time!
Thank you again for these highlights and for not spoiling anything!
That was legendary Jonas🐐
Vingegaard shows how a humble guy, with hard work can conquer everything - love his respect for the other riders, - shows character and class
@@Ibrakadibra guess the other should take notes from Jumbo instead of bitching about it.
JV never won a TT. Take note. JV is on juice!!! 😂💉
@@Ibrakadibra blood doping
@@ClydMosuela-ii3ss he's top 2 from last TT in TDF2022
JV is strong but the gap is very suspicious.
We have different perspective. IMO JV is on peds.
I like Pogi got the attitude of a champion and a sportsman, definitely not over and congrats to Jonas, definitely shocked the world w/ this TT performance. Wish all riders the best
Some people may think JV won last year only because he had the better team. He seems out to prove this year that he's also the strongest individual rider.
*after being carried by his team for two weeks. Team performance still plays a huge role for this TT.
@@Coldhardt007 i think not for TT....rider only depend on himself , jonas f up in here, he is dead , cos pogacaard is fast, jonas do incredible job at TT
@@Coldhardt007 weel he still have to ride the bike himself , and the clock shows Who lead , sorry to poggi fan , and stop your doping if vinge is dopede, then poggi is altso , but idont think they are
@@feliciafelix7386 ye, just sit in the wheel for two weeks and ride on your own for two weeks. Do a TT after it en check the difference in results.
Jonas is unstoppeble
@@DavidLimReport I mean he sure is in some way but so are the others so its fine.
@@Ibrakadibra haha, If Jonas is doping so is Pogi and many others... how ignorant are you??
You're just a sore loser, atleast Pogi has more class then your salty ass
@user-ds1ls7kg6e if the gaps are too big you haven't seen a lot of iterations of the tour de france have you. It's pretty close just JV and TP being beastly.
Simply the best 😊
WOW HE EARNED THAT JERSEY TODAY !! WHAT AN AMAZING PERFORMANCE
That was incredible Jonas set to win this tdf.. he shd continue his focus he is rock steady since the beginning. Pogacar has not had a good tour this season. First few stages he was trailing and then he picked up speed. Although Jonas did amagical time trial - best ever.
Wow. Jonas was on fire! What a race!
This is my first year watching TDF and I really like it so far. I truly admire athletes who push and push to test their limits. I may fall sleep through the races but these highlights help a lot in tracking the riders' standings. Thanks for this!
MIND BLOWING TT today. What a tour, what a stage, what a blessing us fans are receiving!
Respect for both Jonas & Pogi, crazy TT by them. They show how much levels from the rest. But it's not over yet, we all cycling fans want more races & drama from 2 best cyclists on the remaining stages.
1:37 "Crash? No, not us!"😂
Imagine being so good that people in the comments are saying he doped xD J-Vin the man!
Man, this is cycling, no one is going to trust any more ever. You can believe it's clear this time, but most likely in ten or twenty years someone will speak up again.
Sometimes humility wins it all.. well done #Jonas
Totally agree. Tadej exudes humility also. Love these guys.
@@Ibrakadibraidiot
@@Ibrakadibra Is there any evidence whatsoever to prove this?
@@Ibrakadibraomg jelous can kill you😝🤭
@@PizzaHomie Haha, the same brainless questions and responses the US Postal and Sky fans were writing. Nothing has changed in the mentality of the casual cycling Joe after all these years of turmoil. Keep living in LaLa land.
After that, looks he is still fresh...what an athlete..and a teamwork...
Pog still enjoying the race, thats very important, well done..
Congrats to Yellow V, magnificent power..
If he was happy to be 10 seconds behind him, now with 108 seconds must be a flying unicorn
This is legendary!
Domaninant performance by Jonas!💯💥🦵
The drone view on 5:36 really made Jonas' achievement even more jaw-dropping
if the stage is longer, he might catch up to Pogi
@@gerdkerman9849 yep...that would be a sight.
Chapeau, Jonas!🎉💪🎆🥇🎯🎊🧨chapeau!!!
I'm so curious how much is the time difference between Tadej and Jonas from the bottom of the climb to the finish. Jonas didn't change bike and still in a more aerodynamic position up until the finish. If he's faster, this goes to show how much more important is aerodynamic than weight is. Imagine being in a far more heavier bike and still betting Tadej almost 2 minutes. That is so amazing and unbelieveable at the same time.
Well there's 12 seconds for the change and the gap went from 1 05 to 1 38 so about 21 seconds if you don't count the change
imo:
more agressive start ~ 6 sec
first climb ~10 sec
better descent ~ 15 sec
~ same flat
no bike change ~ 15 sec
at this point Pogacar hears he is ~40 sec behind Ving, hurting him psychologically
insane climb by Ving, Pog not feeling great ~35 sec
TT bike better for last part + adrenaline rush of winning the Tour ~ 20 sec
Time saved with more optimal bike vs time wasted during bike change
they said jonas kept practicing and studying the line many times on the rest day
Champ JV started his TT followed by a forceful standing position, perfectly maneuvering curves & then to his peristent aerodynamic posture 'till the end!
Wow, to beat Pogacar by that much on territory that looked made for him. Hats off to Vinegaard, that was an extra terrestrial performance. Interestingly I think he was he the only one who didnt swop bikes and stuck to being as aero as possible.
Afaik. Van Aert didn't change either, nor did Cavagna.
Great highligjts! Thank you for presenting is with them! More to come today in the race!
Pogacar and UAE spent all of their energy trying to distance Jonas in the past 2 weeks but only to burn themselves out. Ouch!
Thanks TdF CZcams channel these are great but they should be longer, at least 10 minutes but 12-15 would be better 🙏
Jonas was INSANE smashed Pogi and Wout 😮🔥
We love Jonas in Denmark, he is humble and nice. Pogi is so good, these 2 boys, oh my. Next year maybe it's Pogi who is the winner.
vingegaard 's legendary day
Que Tuor! Que prova! Que atletas !!!!🤩😍🥰🥰🥰🤍💛💚❤👏👏👏
So good to see
Jonas reminds me of chris Froome era and humility
Great video
It’s bring me good memories….
Jonas is a sport too..lovely lad
2:05 I bet he changed tri for this fabulous rockrider behind him
Unbelievable speed, Vingo!
monster over monster!
I'm watching cycling over 8 years and i never saw such a thing until yesterday. Jonas was an Alien
4:58 This girl was determined to get her hands on that bike seat 😅
Van aert is my fav, hes got the most character...
What's the name of the music at 5:27?
I have the same question
The River Martin - The Hit House
that thumbnail🔥
The better one won, but Tadej gave his allI strongly support Tadej the last scene of this recording I'm sad😢but you don't give up head up and until tomorrow💪💛
Im so proud to be Danish. Jonas is a living legend. The biggest sport icon we’ve ever had ❤
You are forgetting about lord Bendtner how dare you
Mikkel Kessler?
Viktor Axelsen !?
If I had a team principal like that, I would accomplish every goal I had in my life :) inspiring
Soy un privilegiado al estar disfrutando de estos monstruos del ciclismo! Disfruté con los Perico Delgado, Miguelón Indurain, Gianni Bugno, Laurent Fignon, Erick Breaukin, Raúl Alcalá, Pantani, Ciapucci, y tantos más! Pero ver a estos fuera de serie arriba de la bicicleta, es otro rollo.... GRACIAS POR ESE ESPECTÁCULO, GRACIAS A TODOS POR ESTE TOUR DE FRANCE!!
The way Pogacar looks at the lion at the end! "I want one of those!"
Legend
Note: Due to coverage of FIFA Women's World Cup 2023 ⚽🏆📺📱🖥💻📹
While Pogi was swimming, jonas was measuring every line before riding his bikw
Un autre Amstrong et From décidément ils ne peuvent pas d empêcher de prendre du produit Honte à Vingegard et chapeau bas TADJED POGAGAR
Legendary Jonas
Deym Jonas! Show whos the strongest today. And also to his team on the Radio. They do it well also!
Yeah, these performances were super-dope!
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Great Dane!
Dane x2 in a row.. incredable.
Jonas is the Monster 😈😈
pogachar🔥🔥🔥
Time for the Team Strategy be in play on the next stages. Let's see how the team works w/ their leads up to the final push
Respekt
You know, I've noticed something. A lot of people get on here talking about 'doping'. They don't discuss the race/tactics, they just slag on how 'they are all doping' and none of it is legit. I'll bet 99% are not ACTUAL cyclists. They sound like trolls to me. These people couldn't produce 50W to save their pathetic [non-cardio/couch riding] lives. I bet they all have carbon fiber remote controls and aero slippers, for those quick trips to the fridge!
And they probably only watch the TdF and nothing else 😂 they probably dont even know Jumbo Visma does 3 altitude training camps each year and spent a LOT of time in the windtunnel. On top of that, everything is data based in Jumbo Visma. Also, check the rooftop of Jumbos car which was full of bikes for aero purposes and check UAEs car which only had 3 bikes (a spare tt bike and 2 roadbikes) with a HUGE gap in the middle. Sometimes Im thinking does UAE even apply any kind of strategy?? I havent been able to spot one other than intimidation tactics and bullying tactics... Im wondering how Pogacar is even able to hang on for so long after his injury and fairly limited preparations for the tour.
@@DonGroggy "And they probably only watch the TdF and nothing else 😂 "
Hey, I only watch the tour... but even I could see the difference, but then again I do tend to listen to the commentators, who knows a helluva lot better than me.
Ma ma !!!
Hebat👍
Hi everyone Some stats for u. Since 2021 JV and TP has rode 8 ITT
against each other here are the facts and numbers
TP 4 wins
JV 4 wins
4 short under 15 km
TP 3 wins
JV 1 win
4 long plus 15 km
JV 3 wins
TP 1 win
1st week ITT
TP 4 wins
JV 1 win
3rd week stage race ITT
JV 3 wins
TP 0
They are both very strong ITT raiders, some of the best in the world(only specialists better). The stats so far show a clear picture. When they go head to head in ITT, TP will win when they have fresh legs.(JV has only won 1 time against TP and that was in basque 2021 ITT but only with 9 seconds . JV wins in 3rd week ITT. TP has never won a ITT against JV in a 3rd week ITT. JV is the best ITT in the world after 3 weeks racing in my opinion. Which means that to make the tour GC interesting(close) in the future, the ITT in the tour needs to be a 25-30 km ITT in the start of the tour. Then TP might gain 30 sec or maybe a minute on JV/and then bad/cold weather in week 3, then we will get a close Tour de France. Im from Denmark and of course want JV to win but I love TP very much too, but without the above mentioned, I really think that TP will have big troubles winning against JV. And we all really want a close Tour de France no matter who ones favorite is. In 2022 JV would have won with 5 minutes if he had not sat up before the climb in the ITT to give his friend WWA the win and this year a win over 7 minutes. Next year If both are at their best I think Jonas will win clearly. Since we have a long ITT on the last day and TP will probably loose 1-3 minutes on that ITT, and TP has never taken minutes on JV in the mountains. Sidewind or coubble stages are his only chance to take minutes and with JV strong Jumbo team it's unlikely to happen. I really don't think TP will win the tour over Jonas if he does not skip the classic season and this might not be enough anyway. We will see I think he will eventually try this strategy once at least. But damn we live in exiting times. I have followed Tour de France since the mid 1980s and we are so blessed to have such gifted talents right now(JV, TP, Remco, WWA, MVTP and PR) All 6 writes history in their own way that will be remembered in years to come. The discussion the worlds best is in my opinion not that important. but if I have to give u my take on it right now(the last years results.) 1. TP, 2. JV, 3. WWA, 4. Remco, 5. MVTP, 6 PR, 7. Mads P. TP will probably go over in history as the best overall raider after merxc. IF JV keeps evolving and can keep this level for the next 5-6 years Especially if he wins Vuelta this year, then he has a chance to win plus 10 grand tours and become one of histories best GC raiders of all time. With Remco we will see. I don't see him beating JV or TP in the mountain in any near future. Damn im looking forward to the Vuelta. Remember to enjoy this speciel times and keep your self respect by following the example of JV and TP. Have respect for each other and have a bit of class. Let the best legs and tactic intelligence win.
Ciao, Tour is done
Tadej need a team atack or he will lose this tour the france Jonás look great
Wow
The race isn’t over till it’s over , both of these riders is capable and vulnerable on the mountain and two minutes can disappear like the morning mist
You were right, Jonas just added another 6 minutes on Pog 😂
요나스 개쩌네😮
only ten seconds.. thats nothing! .. lol its 1 minute 48 secs now...today they felt what TJV and roglic felt in 2020....
At the interview Jonas said he didn't hear the team director say he would show who would be the strongest. Not a nice edit...
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Tadej is immunosuppresed (cold sores in his mouth) something must be going on with him..
Would like to see power numbers of the top 3
UCI has just released a new athletic level ---> ALIEN
I want the music at the end
Can someone explain me why pogacar changed his bike ? i mean, was he the only one who did it ? or did they just showed his change ?
Strategy. Others riders did too. He change to a bike more suitable to the final climb, jonas keep the chrono bike that is more heavy. Even without the change Jonas time was superior, Pogaca lost like 15 sec on the change.
The road bike gives you a different position to sit in on the climb, it's easier to handle and stand up on when you ride up the mountains, and as others mentioned aswell it is lighter, so he would get a bike that was as light as possible to climb faster.
G did the same thing in the Giro this year. Some people thought it cost him big time.
@@lipegps Disagree for last kms. He lost a lot of time there where aero bikes was much more suitable.
I had the same question. Seems like a big gamble.
WOW... just WOW !
Vignegard was Big Mike Indurain v2.0... enhanced and improved but in smaller size.
JONAS THE WINNER 🙌🌟
Jonas will win the le tour unless Pog does something unimaginable
DSM riders are hilarious 😅
Alhamdulillah
Who is the guy with big Turkiye flag in every finish lin this year?
No bike change for Jonas. Good call 😁😁
Jonas vingegaard shows his true color as a fucking monster.
This Stage16, clearly was won yesterday. Jonas all focus, while Tadej was jumping around at pool(on second week break).🤷🏻♂️
Yes, you know about how to prepare for a stage than Pogacar does. Idiot XD
Why would it matter what he did on a rest day? Taking a day off to recover and repair your body is not going to make you lose the Tour overnight. Jonas is doping and that's why he was able to perform so well despite so little time to rest and recover
@@american_psycho1147 ahaha. When you’re great...suddenly “doping” suddenly pop up.
Did you not see Jonas cornering...it was done perfectly. That cornering alone , he gained 2seconds.
Coming onto this tour...Jonas means business!👊🏼