LS Swap basics, How to Adapt your LS swap engine to your original automatic transmission.
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Sleeve to adapt dished flexplate to Gen 1 transmission, amzn.to/2Rsg6VR
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thank you everybody talks about ls swap but never address trans. Thanks
Did anyone else keep scrolling up on this video. Thanks for the video btw. Very helpful
Thanks for make these videos and sharing your knowledge. Just purchased a 5.3 for $250.00 complete! Everything wiring ecm and all ! And got to hear it run and even talked the guy onto pulling and deliver.
Another ls mystery solved before I turn 1 wrench. Thanks
I must admit my favorite opening sound for the videos is the cammed idle.
Thanks JR. Nobody cuts through the BS and explains it so effortlessly simple as you do
Great video very informative. I also have many older v-8 Chevy Engines .This is my first LS 1 Swap into a 69 GMC 4x4.
It's gonna be sweet when it's done, you'll love it!
How did it turn out ?
I too have a 69 4x4 , an ls would be sweet but im hesitant due to the fact it was my grandpas truck and is still all original .
As I am watching your awesome videos I asked for your help regarding trans hookups bam there it is. You are a great help with ls swapping. I'm a square body truck freek also. Some are Diesel trucks that are going to ls after seeing your videos. Selling all of my old 350 202 motors. Money wise a guy can't build old iron to keep up with the LS motors. Thank you keep posting your information thanks again.
That's where I was at with it as well. I had a nice little 406, but to gain overdrive and another 100 hp, there was no way to do it for the cost of a 6.0/4L80E
ill buy a set of those 202 heads K.B. 916-504-7036
next time we would appreciate powerpoint doc not a word doc. thanks. the car community
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There's no doc at all, you're welcome, me
Thank you! I’m going through this debacle now and this information has been a lifesaver!
Ls $ has the starter mount on the trans, some folks are Modding the oil pan for the starter mound, but prolly just best for the good rods as parts.
I just joined on Facebook group awesome videos man
Thanks for watching!
Oh and by the way. You are a damn well of knowledge. Freaks me out!
Lol, well I research these ahead of time too
Great video, earned my sub. Keep it up brother.
Awesome video very good info I have a lq9 that had a 4l60e so I just need the 551165 spacer to run a th400
If using the oem flat flex plate and oem spacer "80e" stuff to bolt the th350/400 pg ect. You absolutely do NOT need the ict snout adapter
You need either the factory spacer, or the adapter
Warren Michigan checking in video #4
Thanks for all the info, hopefully i only need the itc billet converter adapter sleeve. I have a Fabbot LS adapter for my Barra. Trying to put my th400 behind the Barra.
Thanks for time sharing ur info
Thanks for watching!
Measurements are your friend.
I'm not saying this is in all cases, Sometimes you just trade the bell housing, flex plates and your done. If not listen to this guy, he knows his shit, only thing make some links in your vids to the parts with affiliate so you get something. Good work.
great video. Love the content!
Can you do a manual transmission video?
Yes please!
I've done two now, more are coming
@@TheDrivewayEngineer can you do one on the NV4500? I can't find a thing on it
@@marvingreen6644 I saw the conversion flywheels what did you do
Gonna try to LS swap my delorean :) I'm thinkin the transmission is going to be the hardest part of the build.
Start with a LS4, look for a 4T80
The Driveway Engineer thanks for the tip!
Thanks JR
I want to bolt a 5.3 to s manual sm465 what do I need
Great video my man👍
Thank you!
Your welcome.
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2000 pontiac firebird 3.8 swap LM7 5.3 TRANS ADAPTER
Top notch man. You know your shit
I want to Bolt a v8 chevy 305 . 5.0 on 4l60e What do I need to make the work
I have the 4l60 non e . Right now with that engine... And also wanna say thank you for the information do you provide Thank you very much man and God bless you
Do you tune your own stuff? Could you make a video on how to do the tune for your what to buy for $700 video? Really it's the only thing holding us old hold over mechanics from doing something like that! We just don't get how to tune. Thanks bud! Love your vids!
I have an older video, but honestly it's crap. And I've been drawing a blank on what to do this week, this is what I was considering.
There's no way to keep the length down, my analytics show people tune out after about 9 minutes regardless of topics, but I'll probably do at least the basics to get people started anyway.
Sounds like those people have a personal attention issue. I have watched your older video. Thanks for that. If you choose not too, I understand. Thanks again.
I've kind of decided for this season to get my truck on the road NA and do videos on the whole process for people following along, I'd like to show people a little more how to, so that will be coming in a month to six weeks now that the weather is breaking
For Th400 to dishes 5.3 do you have to add spacers to the convertor bolts too?
bolt up has alot of info what i could have used a video showing how to get my 92 700r4 tv cable to work on my 5.3 drive by cable swap
Carl Andrews have you found any information on 5.3 to 700f4 at all.
You can buy the Bowtie Overdrive adapter for 200 bucks, or make your own, which is why it's far more straightforward to simply use a 4l60
@@jamaalbey6306 no never found any info so I ended up going with a 4l80.....
My 2004 lq4 flex plate did not match with the 700r4 torque converter bolts. It was about an 8th of an inch off. You would need an adapter flex plate aswell.
Just slot the holes ...
Hello driveway very informational video. Love all your videos. Learn alot appreciate videos. So if I'm understanding correctly I have a 2001 lq4 6.0 and a 4l60e out of a 2002 Silverado that had a 5.3. So all I need is the dishes flexplate and I'm all good. No spacers etc correct?
That is correct, good luck!
@@TheDrivewayEngineer thank you sir for quick response...
In theory can't I just swap the bell on a V6 trans with the flat top? It's a 300mm shaft but completely wrong bell.
Im about to drop in my 05 Lq9 into my 1970 c10. what stall would you recommend for it. not trying break the bank. looking for anything 2600-3400 . chances are it will stall higher given my gearing tire size and such, I have had good luck with fti in the past. Made the mistake of ordering off ebay and they sent me a dam Bop 350th converter and the gap on the mounting points are insane .
I buy my converters from Ryan Jans at Tampa Performance
What would I need to do I'm ls swapping a 94 chevy 1500 4L60e trans wanting to used the that trans that come in it. 5.3 liter will it work
I think if you get the real late vortec T56 transmissions out of trucks, they fit the common SBC bolt pattern
There are no Vortec truck T56 transmissions
Just joined the Facebook group
So I have a 91 4l60 (700r4) and I’m putting a 02 6.0 has the flat 4l80 flex plate so if I use the spacer behind the flex plate do I still use the original starter ? Also what do I do as far as the converter lock up as it’s wired to original pcm ?
What about a 5.3 with a older 1998 nv3500? Pilot bearing
Flywheel Oreilys $60 NFW1050
Pilot Bearing Napa $20 6302-VSP43
Release Bearing Ebay $20 1377C
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Pressure Plate Stock
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I was thinking about using my 5lm60 to get me going will I be able to do the same thing or will I need to get a newer nv3500? that doesn't have clutch fork?
Researching an ls swap into an 88 chevy 4×4 manual trans. 5.3 (gen3)...ls flywheel(from a 4.8 manual truck i hear) and the stock clutch is all we need ?...i thought i heard you say flywheel matching engine and clutch matching the trans for manual swaps. If it matters the truck started its life as a diesel
We think it's an nv4500, but i haven't verified that. It should have the 14" flywheel since it's a big block/ diesel application. I realize you've got more important stuff to do than answer questions that you've likely addressed somewhere, and i appreciate your patience.
@@shawnwimberly9294 from what I’ve seen you need a conversion flywheel Novak sells them and so does advance adapters I’m gonna be doing the same thing I have a nv 4500 mated to a 350 at the moment but have a 6.0 and will be doing this
I guess I'll jump off that bridge when i get to it. Swapping a 1964 impala currently. Besides the oil pan, exhaust, transmission crossmember,driveshaft, shifter mechanism, and throttle cable, it's been pretty straight forward (sarcasm)... the truck swaps are more my speed i think.
What about starters? Can I take any year LS starter motor and bolt it to any year LS engine and transmission combination? Like if I had a starter off a 5.3 with a 4l65E and I bolted it to a 6.0L with a 4L80E and switched from flat to dished flex plate etc - will the starters all fit? Thanks to anyone who can answer this!
Yes, they're all the same
WHAT DO INEED TO MAKE MY FLYWHEEL FIT ON A 1996 VORTEC 5.7 PLEASE HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!
ok what does a guy do with the tranny kickdown cable? still need that and the throttle cable bracket?
Can you make a video using the z bar on 4 speed since Ls don't have that option
Any videos on hooking up vehicle speed sensor, or do you really need it
What flex pay to use for a 5.7 Corvette motor 2000
What about manual transmission?
So how would you address the TV cable on the older 700r4 and 4L60 to get it to work?
I'd sell it and put the money towards an E trans.
But they make a adapter to hook a TV cable to a DBC Throttle Body. And they make manual valve bodies. Both go against my general scheme of using the simplest, cheapest thing.
The Driveway Engineer thanks for the quick reply. Following you FB now too, I like your keep it simple approach.
What about driveshaft length I bought Tejas adapters
Measure and have one built.
Does the spacer go on the engine side of the flex plate or the torque converter side of the lex plate?
how about the ls1 corvette flex plate? need info for that please. cant find anywhere that says it will work with the ITC adapter.
Did you also post in the group?
If not, the Corvette torque tube thingy doesn't work, you'd need a normal 5m3 dished plate.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer yeah I did. Lol I got the answer. Great group you made! Thanks for info!
I have a 05 LQ9 trying to install a 4l80e to it, I bought the flywheel but don’t know what bolts I’ll need to install everything.. I bought some apr torque converter bolts for a 4l60/4l80 don’t know if those will work. Any help? Thank you.
Have a 2004 5.3 using a t350 is that a gen3 motor thks
I have a 2004 gen 3 long crank with out original flex plate what part no. Do I need I’m using a 700 trans 3000 stall converter
04 doesn't have a long crank
Do you know what flex plate I need the starter won’t reach the flat or the dish flex plate
You're probably missing the aluminum spacer that goes on the crank.
Hey JR, ive done this swap since 1st watching your video and learning how, thanks
so what do you do about your pcm trouble codes dealing with TCC? i ve got at least one maybe more transmission related codes
P0740,0758,0785, p1860, P1810
i did the LT1Swap harness and deleted all those wires but am i supposed to turn stuff off in the PCM as well? or just live with the codes hoping they dont affect the driveability somehow?
Set them to Do Not Report
Thanks for the video. So I just need the spacer and longer bolts to mate a 2004 LQ4 to a 1996 4L80E?
czcams.com/video/8TeTxu-FxX0/video.html
would I need a module or something to run a 4L80 behind a 350? I wouldn't mind doing this because I love the 355 that I have in the truck right now, its a hot little motor that my granddad and I built for the truck before he passed.... thanks man!
Yeah, you can get a standalone to run it
I have a 6L80 off A 2010 SILVERADO.Can I use on my LQ4 2003 ? TY love Ur Video
Not without a standalone controller
Hi do you mind helping me out? I have a gen3 6.0 and a 2004 4l60e I removed the transmission to get it rebuilt. when I received the transmission back and installed it..it seemed that the t.c has about 1” of play.when I bolted the flexplate to it and filled with fluid the transmission wouldn’t go into gear or move the truck at all do I need a spacer for this set up? (The t.c is a new refurbished one and the new flexplate is the concave one from a 5.3) and before the transmission went out the truck was running normal no noises at all.
Sorry, for some reason your comment was flagged.
You should have a dished flexplate, and the little aluminum spacer that bolts to the crank on that set up.
If it won't move with fluid in it the pump was probably damaged on install.
The Driveway Engineer thank you for replying..yes it has a dished flex plate but no spacer. I sent the transmission back to the shop and the pump was damaged at install. It was repaired and I installed it again correctly and now it’s working good. But how is it able to work without the spacer?
You don't need the snout adapter, just the little silver spacer. Is your flexplate bolted direct to the crank?
The Driveway Engineer yes it is even when I removed the old flexplate I didn’t see any spacer.
@@victorrios9936 Gm #12563532 should be between the flex plate and the torque converter to locate the snout of the converter, unless you have a tall converter to mate to the crank.
I have a 94 c4 Corvette with the 6 speed zf trans and have a donor 4.8/5.3 truck from 99 and was wondering if that trans will bolt up to that engine? If anyone knows that would be awesome. I've looked everywhere and everyone I've seen do the swap already has the auto trans and uses it from the vet and use a engine from a truck
There's a QuickTime bell that works with some machining, Quicktime PN RM-6039 I have the thread saved on my PC, I'll dig it up for you.
www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c4-tech-performance/2893234-ls1-swap-with-zf6-need-parts-list-6.html
Thanks man I really appreciate it. Love the videos. Keep them up!
IM CONFUSED . So will a 2003 truck 5.3 LS fit an 84 cutlass tranny?
or will i need extra parts?
i just swapped out my sbc/th350 and attached my 5.3 LS to TH350 with the collar/sleeve but the convertor bolts seemed short and i had to suck the convertor away from trannyy about 3/8 of an inch. is that a problem or normal?
That's pretty normal
@@TheDrivewayEngineer , whew, thanks, i was a little worried, only did 1 tranny swap before this and it was problem free, luckily.
I have a 2003 4.3 4l60e would it bolt up to the 2006 6.0 without any adapter
Probably, if it's a 300mm input
I want to ls swap my ford crown victoria with a 5.3 ls will it bolt up ? If not can you tell me what i need?
A welder and fab shop
What do you need to bolt tremec 5 speed in a ls
Iam Confused sorry. Wondering what I have to have to bolt a 6.0 to a 4l60e from the early 90s. 6.0 going in to a 1994 GMC Yukon 5.7 with the 4l60e.
Depends on what transmission was behind it to begin with.
Engine size doesn't matter, transmission does. 4l80 is a flat plate, 60 is dished.
I have a 93 c1500 that I want to drop a 5.3 into. Mating the two doesn’t look like it will be a problem, but can anyone explain to me what the next steps would be? Do I need a tcm to run the transmission? Or is there anything budget I can do?
If you use an LS 4l60 the whole thing just drops in.
Not really much communication between the 2 required
The Driveway Engineer I was hoping to use my original 1 piece 4l60e.
@@pegleg_rigo2464 yeah.
If you buy some extra crap you can.
Or you can just use an LS 4l60 that bolts in and the PCM runs it
Is there anyway to put a 4L60e on a 2000 long crank 6.0
So I just got my adapter to match the snout on my TH350 to my 5.3 but now I have another question. My 5.3 is DBW and my TH350 has a tv cable so how would I go about adapting them together? Do I need to go from DBW to DBC for the throttle body? Or should I just go with a 4L60E? My TH350 was running perfectly before I pulled the 350SBC and wouldn't need to get a new drive shaft made.
It's not a TV cable, it's just a kickdown cable.
You can disconnect it and plug the hole, or leave it flopping.
Switching to DBC will be expensive and still require an expensive adapter. Just downshift it manually.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer got ya. Thank you for the information. I was considering going with the 4L60E but why do that when my TH350 only has 5K miles since the rebuild. I'll be doing what you recommended and hopefully the rest of it goes well.
Ok so I will apologise in advance because you have never heard this question..but I am swapping a L77 in my RS200 Altezza..it has in a A650e trans and I want to keep it to retain my button shift function,can you assist with the information of what is needed..thanks.
You're way outside the realm of anything I'm familiar with.
What flywheel would I need for the 99 6.0 to fit my 01 4l60e? I was told my flywheel off my 5.3 will not work with my 6.0 being its got a longer crank
They don't bolt together without a custom converter last I knew.
Dang that sucks
Jesse Holland use an 80 lol that works fine
Really not trying to spend a couple hundred on swap parts..was gonna buy a cam lifters oil pump head gaskets an ARP bolts but now I'm jus gonna sell the motor an get a newer style one cause that's to much bullshit I got a perfect 4l60e been going for years no problem even on nitrous on last motor so I know its stougt transmission lolol jus trying to get more power an do a 6.0 swap
Jesse Holland yeah, punt it to someone else
What about the drive-by-wire hooking it up to the 700 R4 kick down or TV cable
Doesn't
@@TheDrivewayEngineer
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@@WiIdFx yep, people make their own brackets if they want to
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I need to not want to lol
@@WiIdFx I wouldn't bother, you have to get the geometry right.
Personally I'd rather have a 4l60 that the PCM can run and fits in the same space
Just to be clear. I have a 6.0 out of a 06 silverado with flat flex plate Going with th400. So I would need the longer bolts and that gm spacer thats around $50. Let me know. Thanks for all u do
That's correct.
The Driveway Engineer i been super confused because my friend has a 5.3 with a 6.0 flat flex plate and he is not using a spacer with his th400.
I have a 1995 S10 that came with a 2.2 and a 4L60E .. Swapping out the 2.2 for a 5.3 , was told bolt patterns are different and I can't use the 4L60E that came with the 2.2... What's my options here... Thank You Would prefer to stay with a Automatic transmission..
The most straightforward thing to do is get a 4l60 that came behind a 5.3
@@TheDrivewayEngineer Thank you
I want to put an LS to a Ford Top Loader
Im stuck on this one in need of help trying to use a 99 4l60e on a 04 5.3 some one please help
If it's an LS trans, just bolt them together
@@TheDrivewayEngineer sorry i said wrong I've got them bolted up but i cant get the torque converter bolts in the flywheel
Can you bolt a gen1 4l60e too a ls?
Yes
I have a 2003 v6 that is gonna be swapped to 6.0 out of a 2006 Denali AWD would I need the spacer to use the v6 stock transmission idk what transmission was on the 6.0 it was already gone but could been a 80e
The input shaft is different on the V6, you'd be better off to start with a 5.3 trans.
What about mounting a ls up to a bop transmission?
Use a BOP/Chevy plate....
But it's way easier to just sell the BOP trans and use a Chevy one.
I want to bolt a 5.3 to a 4l60e out of a 96 V6 Camaro. Is this possible? What would it require?
No
How would I go about fitting up the stock shift linkage on a 74 nova to a 4l60e
Lokar makes a column linkage kit, it's like ACA 1800 or something
The Driveway Engineer oh sweet thanks for the quick reply 🤙🏽🤙🏽
I have a 73 k10 I want to know if ls works with the original manual transmission?
It can
I have a 5.3 engine s10 swap from an 02 tahoe im gonna use the 00 v6 4l60e out of from an s10 wich spacer do I need? The one that looks like the ring or the other one?
You need a V8 transmission, or more parts than a V8 transmission costs
@@TheDrivewayEngineer that shouldnt be your concern!!! Not the answer I was looking for
@@TheDrivewayEngineer but thanks bye
Hey man thanks for the video....learned alot.....I have a question.....I have a BOP th400 that I want to bolt up to a 99 LS1 out of a Corvette. Could you please tell me what I would need to bolt these 2 items with one another. Thank you
A normal Chevy to BOP plate would work, but it would be simpler to buy a Chevy one and just use the converter spacer, and sell your BOP one.
so if i have a 2001 lq4 in a suburban 2500, that has a 4l80e behind it, what parts do I need?
For what?
@@TheDrivewayEngineer oh sorry, I will be running a TH400, it appears that it bolts right up exactly as the 4L80E did. thanks, love your channel btw
ok i have a 5.7 vortec with the longer crankshaft what do i need flexplate wise to adapt to 200r4?
That's not a thing...
Just bolt them together
@@TheDrivewayEngineer apparently the bolt pattern on 2 years is different from crankshaft to flywheel i have tried 350 and 400 flywheel neither line up?
There are different bolt patterns on flexplate, has nothing to do with length of the crank
Will a 4l60e or the 4l80 torque converter work with a th350 transmission?
No
Ok. Thanks for the response ...
I have a 2006 lq4 came out of all wheel denali was planning to put it in my 1989 c1500 pick up which has a 305 and 5ml60 (oem) will the 5ml60 work .?would really appreciate any help and get your opinion
Thank you for your videos and all your help
89 pickups don't have 5lm60s,that's a 2000's Cadillac transmission.
Rpo code in glove box MG5( getrag 5 speed manual transmission) would appreciate any help thank you
That's the code for a Getrag 5 speed manual in 1989
Would the lq4 be able to mate with it?
@@fzales69 yep, just use a 06 4.8 flywheel for a 3500
I have a 6.0L LY6 from a 2015 Sierra that I want to match to a 2002 Tahoe 4L60E 2wd. What do I need? Thanks!!
They bolt together, just use a 4L60e flexplate
@@TheDrivewayEngineer so no spacer? Use the flex plate from the 6.0L or the 5.3L? Sorry man, my head is spinning with the combos.
@@Bueno-Fabrication-Tuning there are no combos, use the flexplate that matches the transmission
Are there any 4.3 v6 options available, are they the same kool thanks, I’m getting a 2007 I Believe , it might be a 2002 , what ever it is its in a pick up truck, ok kool thanks praise Jesus grace Christ amen 🙏 BigAl California.
ls4 that is
Sm465 be like th350,400
Question i just pulled a 2 piece 4L60E from 2001 van with 350 engine now what do i need to adapt this to my ls series 5.3 engine. I have installed a bigger cam, springs & flat top pistons engine is an 01. Do i need just the spacer for it with ls dished flex plate and do they make an stall that i can use for i will need a 2800 to 3200 stall i believe. Any info greatly appreciated
Use a normal Gen 1 converter, flat flexplate and spacer
@@TheDrivewayEngineer so the 6.0 flex plate and spacer
@@TheDrivewayEngineer guess i should say the 4l60e is the 298mm torque converter so i have to use ls flat flex plate and the bigger spacer not the sleeve.
@@ralphhuff4977 yes, the 6.0 stuff
@@TheDrivewayEngineer does spacer go on before flywheel are after
Lol, spend the whole video plugging urself.
Yeah, all those products I sell 😂
@@TheDrivewayEngineer thanks for the info im having trouble with the 4l80e I have a flat flex plate but my aftermarket converter snout is to long the converter pads don't touch. I think summit sold me the wrong converter.
Too long winded
😂
@@TheDrivewayEngineer you can’t please everyone, huh? 🤣