@Nemya Blue Cause I am always stressing about people and even right now as I reply this to you I am worried you are going to think of me as stupid and yeah..stuff like that like I get paranoid as hell
@Nemya Blue Okay. Well most istps I've met don't even show any trace of happiness. And I'm usually the one coming off as an enfp in real life, I'm very optimistic, energetic and happy and I like to show that..but I do still find emotions uncomfortable and I get very awkward extremely often. I also freak out on what I'm saying and care a lot for people but I still can be insensitive like if someone drops something, I'll be the first to laugh like a horrible person lmao. And I see my self as more thinker than feeler sometimes cause I prefer objective truth over someones opinion and if emotions are in play, its kinda annoying cuz Id rather have actual facts and logic. tbh Ive been going over my type beng istp, infp, intp, enfp, and isfp for ages now...and I just like to make jokes of my suffering but you seem nice so I'll share this deep info with you, maybe you can help me, cause I get an idea that you're smart too. Maybe you're infj?..idk Im guessing... I have social anxiety and adhd and Im a hsp (highly sensitive person) but the sign I relate to most is intp...unless they are being insensitive then I can't. My mum is entp and my dad dropped chicken on the ground and she kept making fun of him, it was funny at first but then I wanted to make sure dad wasn't actually hurt by that too badly so I told mum to stop and I had intrusive thoughts about what could happen to him....But I think thats just genuine empathy. Other times, my brother who I think is a fe user..or so, he will express emotions to me and ask me for comfort (he always comforts me but I cant comfort him) and when he does this I get all awkward and just unable to say anything cause I'm paranoid whatever I say will come off as rude. He takes my reaction of apathy as annoyance and then continues to get more emotional and open and that bothers me more. Most infps are supposed to be good listeners and usually feelers are extremely good at coping with emotions, they might find it awkward too but they wouldn't pull the things I do. But I guess its the intrusive thoughts that make me hate comforting others so much, "What If I say something wrong and it makes me want to kill themselves" ect.. Sorry I went on a rant Should I mention that I'm also not good at expressing my thoughts online or in real life, especially not to people and I can be observant and touch random things in the environment but usually like rn..I didn't even notice it was 5:10 am in the morning lmao idk..
Can confirm. The biggest mistake is telling us to do the opposite of what you want. It’s like a legal contract to us, in the sense that you can’t sarcastically agree to one.
ISTPs are just so cool. I see so much of myself in them, probably because we share dominant Ti, but they're just so much more... confident, I guess? Or maybe they're just less uncertain. Either way I definitely envy it. Their way of calmly and succinctly stating their *mostly* well reasoned beliefs (hey, I've got Ne, of course I see flaws in many of their ideas :P) just makes them so easy to chat with, provided you don't bulldoze them with abstract ideas or anything else they think is boring (that last part's true with most people, to be fair, haha). Thanks again for compiling clips of these ISTPs, Sara. More than myself even, I see my best friend from childhood represented in a lot of them, and that's pretty nice. MBTI is a pretty interesting thing, isn't it?
Lol yes, they seem more confident but I always wonder why I don't feel that way even being an ISTP myself? I have so many insecurities that it is very hard to me describe me like "confident". And I am so shy... so... wtf. My dad is an INTP, my only problem with him it is what he believes about himself, sometimes it is not acordding to reality and everybody sees him like a pretendious man. Not about his ideas, it is about his conception about himself. I know, everybody is not the same though.
What bugs me is that I have balance between N and S, P and J So I don't know for sure if I am an ISTP INTP ISTJ INTJ but I identify myself as a ISTP since I prefer to improvise and adapt, though I am capable of planning ahead and meticulously.
I'm istp, people seem to get me wrong quite often, I speak calmly and explain, and point things out for reference in the most neutral way I can, and shit still hires me in the ass
Thich Nhat Han’s explanation is a metaphor for how I deal with people. I like to escalate in increments. If someone does something annoying, I’ll take note of it the first time and give them the benefit of the doubt. The second time, I’ll say something calmly. The third time, I’m visibly and audibly angry.
You know I heard that istps specifically have a nice quality which is breaking the barrier between the S and N , of course that doesn't include every one , but personally i do feel I have a good NI
Phillip Johnson It was difficult to find interviews of some very cool people (because of the copy rights). Sry for disappointing you! I hope you enjoyed this video a little bit and tnx for letting me know your opinion :)
Sara MBTI - I did indeed, especially the Frank Zappa clips, seeing I am an ISTP, and the guy was somewhat of a genius. I sincerely hope you didn't feel criticized, and I totally respect your interest in MBTI. The stuff is truly fascinating!
Phillip Johnson Absolutelly not. I appreciate sincere and realistic comments. Zappa is one of my favourite too. You should check his full interview (the one I've mentioned in this video). Deep stuff. Maybe you find it interesting. :)
me, istp, 19, having exactly the same take on democracy for the exact same reasons + same narration and listening to my vocal records feels exactly like listening to this particular guy, which is quite impressive
I do see how Jack Dorsey is ISTP now. He's gotten more comfortable in expressing his personality now he's not trying so hard to be professional. Ashton Kutcher I think is an introvert if you watch him on Ellen. But he's a 7w8. Idk if he is an 8 wing though. 7w8 are your more surfer dudish social type ISTP
Watch Han Solo in Star Wars, Bronn and The Hound in Game Of Thrones, and Bruce Willis in Pulp Fiction...and you'll have a pretty good idea of what ISTP's are all about. Also watch ANY interview with Noel Gallagher....like this one: czcams.com/video/_bGE7o8KVnI/video.html
Amplitude/Notes; Mr Frank Zappa who got best ISTP examples upon the most comprehensive discussions he ever draw, and yet the other's ISTP people who also got the traits but unlike to Mr Frank have definitely among the best, more often regards to Holiness Dalai Lama, Martial Matters (AKA Eminem) and Clint Eastwood 👍☺️🇵🇭💐🌺🌷💝🌼🌸❤️❤️💖💗
Steve Jobs no era ISTP, era ENTJ Steve jobs wasnt ISTP he was ENTJ Most of the ISTP skills can be showed well at mechanical and physical stuff and not mainly at speach. That is why im not very agree.
Incorrect, you are confused. We are not naturally great speaker, this doesn't mean we will forever be weak at it. it is a skill to be mastered like any other, I am never chose to excel at any of the mechanical stuff but I had weak communication skills in highschool and today its one of the things I am best at, it brief periods.
This video does more harm than good to personality study. Your typing was very off. Careful understanding of cognitive functions is how you get at this stuff; ISTP = Ti - Se - Ni - Fe. If someone actually wants to learn how to type you have to move beyond your preconceptions and look at how these building blocks of cognition lead us toward picking certain words, phrases and down certain life paths. Steve Jobs - ENTP He’s talking about Te Critic. Jack Dorsey - ISTP You got that one right. Frank Zappa - ENTP Again with the Te Critic this time with Fe Ethics. Ashton Kutcher - ISFP Fi - Se - Ni - Te ‘I don’t know how much I’m allowed to reveal.’ Te inferior. Nick Pulovski (character) - ESFP (My guess) Clint Eastwood himself is an ISTP, characters aren’t the same types as their actors. ??? I didn’t know who that was Melania Trump - ISFP TONS of Fi. Everything is what she likes or doesn’t like. It’s all very grounded in the present (Se). Dali Lama - INFP It’s not even close. Eminem - ISTP You got that one right too. Christian Bale - ISTP Another right one. You got 4.5/10. That gives you credit for the one I didn’t know and half credit for Clint Eastwood. 30-45% isn’t acceptable in a video that was produced and had the ability to fact check before released.
Now that I've actually put that out there it's probably obvious to some that Jack Dorsey, Clint Eastwood, Eminem and Christian Bale are the same type but the others don't 'feel' like they do. Learning to type snowballs, once you get a type figured out it's easy to spot that 'energy'. I personally have a lot of Extraverted Intuition and so my methods are going to hinge on me utilizing that tool, but good data, cross checked by others, is how you make your tools better whichever perception functions you happen to have.
I also agree its not perfectly accurate, and I think its literally just based off of the Celebrity types website. It may or may not be accurate. So we shouldn't take this video seriously.
Because the world wants girls to wear pretty skirts, kiss everyone's boo-boos, & be feelers. If we were boys there wouldn't be a problem but because we don't work like that it makes things more difficult.
@@1Skorpia half of these aren't ISTP like Steve Jobs and Ashton Kutcher, ENTP and ESFP respectively, but Melania is an ISTP. She thinks things through for herself, is more responding ergo introverted, is concerned about how others think, doesn't care what she feels and really wants to help other's feelings. She and other ISTPs tend to talk much faster than Miles Davis at 6:45.
I don't know what type he is and I had never watched an interview with him before, but I found him annoying AF in this one. I hate people who never stop talking and seem to love listening to themselves.
We're so awkward and fidgety.
Sylvie May Harrison McCartney Fan love your profile pic 🤩💗💗
Uh, no.
I actually like Istp’s they make me rethink things with their Ti. They can be very thought provoking. My brain always flips when they talk.
So like INTP's, but they will fight you
Yep, i am very good at murdering the shit out of people with words at times
FACTS
Yes
INTPs with claws
Person: Do the thing
ISTP: I don't know
Person: If you don't do the thing, *people will think less of you*
ISTP:
ISTP: ok
thanks for helping me figure out I was infp instead of istp
@Nemya Blue Cause I am always stressing about people and even right now as I reply this to you I am worried you are going to think of me as stupid and yeah..stuff like that like I get paranoid as hell
@Nemya Blue Okay. Well most istps I've met don't even show any trace of happiness. And I'm usually the one coming off as an enfp in real life, I'm very optimistic, energetic and happy and I like to show that..but I do still find emotions uncomfortable and I get very awkward extremely often. I also freak out on what I'm saying and care a lot for people but I still can be insensitive like if someone drops something, I'll be the first to laugh like a horrible person lmao.
And I see my self as more thinker than feeler sometimes cause I prefer objective truth over someones opinion and if emotions are in play, its kinda annoying cuz Id rather have actual facts and logic.
tbh Ive been going over my type beng istp, infp, intp, enfp, and isfp for ages now...and I just like to make jokes of my suffering but you seem nice so I'll share this deep info with you, maybe you can help me, cause I get an idea that you're smart too. Maybe you're infj?..idk Im guessing...
I have social anxiety and adhd and Im a hsp (highly sensitive person) but the sign I relate to most is intp...unless they are being insensitive then I can't. My mum is entp and my dad dropped chicken on the ground and she kept making fun of him, it was funny at first but then I wanted to make sure dad wasn't actually hurt by that too badly so I told mum to stop and I had intrusive thoughts about what could happen to him....But I think thats just genuine empathy.
Other times, my brother who I think is a fe user..or so, he will express emotions to me and ask me for comfort (he always comforts me but I cant comfort him) and when he does this I get all awkward and just unable to say anything cause I'm paranoid whatever I say will come off as rude.
He takes my reaction of apathy as annoyance and then continues to get more emotional and open and that bothers me more. Most infps are supposed to be good listeners and usually feelers are extremely good at coping with emotions, they might find it awkward too but they wouldn't pull the things I do. But I guess its the intrusive thoughts that make me hate comforting others so much, "What If I say something wrong and it makes me want to kill themselves" ect..
Sorry I went on a rant
Should I mention that I'm also not good at expressing my thoughts online or in real life, especially not to people and I can be observant and touch random things in the environment but usually like rn..I didn't even notice it was 5:10 am in the morning lmao idk..
Nemya Blue Okay now I am thinking that I am not ISTP....
@@konnyjay581 the confusion goin here i am sure i m istp -- week with 40% confusion
Here’s a tip ... don’t even consider using reversed psychology on an ISTP
It will backfire terribly at u
Can confirm. The biggest mistake is telling us to do the opposite of what you want. It’s like a legal contract to us, in the sense that you can’t sarcastically agree to one.
I warn people before they even try 😂
i laugh hard at this cus its so true. ahahaha
ISTP's are kinda sexy to me, but I don't think it'll ever work out, we just don't really understand each other enough in the long run.
Thanks, we know)
ISTPs are straightforward. Just ask one what you want to know.
I guess that's why they called us the loneliest type
@@synchronation, not the “loneliest”; the most comfortable being alone.
Sounds like a you problem.
Basically the awkward, edgy teenage boy type.
Haha that's the exact description of me... I'm basically an ISTP
well.. pretty much
Moreover. Female ISTP teenagers are also awkward and edgy boy type.
What happens when you are a middle aged ISTP woman who is a raging heterosexual? Generalize much?
@@user-gd6il5zb8l That was so me it hurt
ISTPs are just so cool. I see so much of myself in them, probably because we share dominant Ti, but they're just so much more... confident, I guess? Or maybe they're just less uncertain. Either way I definitely envy it. Their way of calmly and succinctly stating their *mostly* well reasoned beliefs (hey, I've got Ne, of course I see flaws in many of their ideas :P) just makes them so easy to chat with, provided you don't bulldoze them with abstract ideas or anything else they think is boring (that last part's true with most people, to be fair, haha). Thanks again for compiling clips of these ISTPs, Sara. More than myself even, I see my best friend from childhood represented in a lot of them, and that's pretty nice. MBTI is a pretty interesting thing, isn't it?
Lol yes, they seem more confident but I always wonder why I don't feel that way even being an ISTP myself? I have so many insecurities that it is very hard to me describe me like "confident". And I am so shy... so... wtf. My dad is an INTP, my only problem with him it is what he believes about himself, sometimes it is not acordding to reality and everybody sees him like a pretendious man. Not about his ideas, it is about his conception about himself. I know, everybody is not the same though.
I am an ISTP and enjoy abstract concepts, mainly philosophical and psychological concepts.
MBTI is just a "sketch" of your personality, it doesn't contemplate your mind deeply.
João Drapala You have introverted intuition as your third cognitive function. That is possible :)
What bugs me is that I have balance between N and S, P and J
So I don't know for sure if I am an
ISTP
INTP
ISTJ
INTJ
but I identify myself as a ISTP since I prefer to improvise and adapt, though I am capable of planning ahead and meticulously.
I am an intj and very impressed with the istp. I don't understand Ti well and these videos really help. They are so analytical and cool.
2 Words for the ISTP-Honey Badger
Any chance that is also a reference to the top gear Botswana special?
you talking about the rifle? - istp
I had to look it up. How dare you
@@cherishtheday2223 I too have looked it up and I got to say HOW DARE YOU
Oh that’s why I’m a hufflepuff
I'm istp, people seem to get me wrong quite often, I speak calmly and explain, and point things out for reference in the most neutral way I can, and shit still hires me in the ass
You probably don't do it as calmy or as empathicly as you think x)
I cant contain myself laughing to Christian Bale
Imo ISTP is so coolest type in MBTI ever
@Patrick Bateman I mean cmon Arthur and John was ISTP my friend
Lol Clint Eastwood is the quintessential ISTP
Very nice, I have always liked ISTPs.
Thich Nhat Han’s explanation is a metaphor for how I deal with people. I like to escalate in increments. If someone does something annoying, I’ll take note of it the first time and give them the benefit of the doubt. The second time, I’ll say something calmly. The third time, I’m visibly and audibly angry.
That is not Thich Nhat Hanh in the video. I think it's the Dalai Lama
Third one with the mustache appears far more like a INTP/ENTP to me.
I am an ISTP....I am a minute and a half in and I am BORED! Its boring. My god...we're not like this!
Steve jobs has a strong Ne function. He was a visionary type of person. ENTP would be my pick.
I believe I read that he was an ENTJ or INTJ, I’m not completely sure but I totally agree that he was an intuitive type
Steve Jobs’s intuition is too good to be an ISTP
It’s not intuition.
You know I heard that istps specifically have a nice quality which is breaking the barrier between the S and N , of course that doesn't include every one , but personally i do feel I have a good NI
He’s INTP.
Frank Zappa is a hell of an Entp
truth.
cocteau twins!
No
Kinda disappointed that you didn't include Michael Jordan, Kristen Stewart and Michelle Rodriguez.
Also, Ashton Kutcher I'm not too sure about.
Phillip Johnson It was difficult to find interviews of some very cool people (because of the copy rights). Sry for disappointing you! I hope you enjoyed this video a little bit and tnx for letting me know your opinion :)
Sara MBTI - I did indeed, especially the Frank Zappa clips, seeing I am an ISTP, and the guy was somewhat of a genius.
I sincerely hope you didn't feel criticized, and I totally respect your interest in MBTI. The stuff is truly fascinating!
Phillip Johnson Absolutelly not. I appreciate sincere and realistic comments.
Zappa is one of my favourite too. You should check his full interview (the one I've mentioned in this video). Deep stuff. Maybe you find it interesting. :)
Sara MBTI - Cool. I'll check it out! Any videos with your personality type? (By you)
Phillip Johnson I am an Enfj. I made this compilation about Enfj type: czcams.com/video/LmuN0agx4BE/video.html
me, istp, 19, having exactly the same take on democracy for the exact same reasons + same narration and listening to my vocal records feels exactly like listening to this particular guy, which is quite impressive
i’m a woman, also. i wish they were more feminine representation for we do adapt a bit differently most of the time, for the context is different
Is Ashton Kutcher a istp?
I don't even see how Jack Dorsey is, he's so quiet and disciplined like infj
I do see how Jack Dorsey is ISTP now. He's gotten more comfortable in expressing his personality now he's not trying so hard to be professional. Ashton Kutcher I think is an introvert if you watch him on Ellen. But he's a 7w8. Idk if he is an 8 wing though.
7w8 are your more surfer dudish social type ISTP
Can somebody write the names of all the celebrities in the video? Please do it in the order of their appearance.
Steve Jobs, Frank Zappa, Ashton Kutcher, Clint Eastwood, Miles Davis, Melania Trump, Dalai Lama, Eminem, C. Bale :)
I like the Dalai Lama view on respecting living creatures. Something I agree with.
@SIMPLE REECK whats ur type?
@SIMPLE REECK yes
@SIMPLE REECK I wouldn't know, these are based on celebrity types. Its not about him being ISTP though, but his views.
I don't think that Jobs was an ISTP, he seems more like an ENTJ with an overdeveloped Se or an ENTP to me
CREEPEY Freak ENTP
CREEPEY Freak entj for sure.
CREEPEY Freak
There’s no way Jobs is an ISTP...I don’t believe it
I use the interwebs Thanks for clarifying what he said.
jhumenik97
*rolls eyes *
Istp here
Geralt of Rivia, but one and only, original book version.
me confused between intp istp intj and istj --- now i see i m istp all istp are confused as hell -- with 40 % confusion
ISTPs are not confused - at least not for long.
Bro im the same. Stuck between those 4 and the more I dissect, the less ik 🤡
lol ew. why are we so awkward? (also are the ppl there istp's or describing istp's? um)
I read online that Karim Benzema is an istp he is DEFINITELY an introvert, but I don’t know about everything else- can someone help?
Steve Jobs was an ENTP.
is
I think i'm an apache attack helicopter
6:45. Yeaah Miles Davis made it...!!!!
I am INTP and I like ISTP's
Holy SHITTT. Right fucken on bro lmao
I think my dad was an ISTP im an INFJ xD
He was annoyed of me and I was scared of him :'v
Watch Han Solo in Star Wars, Bronn and The Hound in Game Of Thrones, and Bruce Willis in Pulp Fiction...and you'll have a pretty good idea of what ISTP's are all about. Also watch ANY interview with Noel Gallagher....like this one: czcams.com/video/_bGE7o8KVnI/video.html
Amplitude/Notes;
Mr Frank Zappa who got best ISTP examples upon the most comprehensive discussions he ever draw, and yet the other's ISTP people who also got the traits but unlike to Mr Frank have definitely among the best,
more often regards to
Holiness Dalai Lama, Martial Matters (AKA Eminem) and Clint Eastwood
👍☺️🇵🇭💐🌺🌷💝🌼🌸❤️❤️💖💗
2nd dude put me to sleep
That's Frank Zappa, for god's sake.
Steve jobs reminds me of Simon Cowell. He was a real jerk.... I highly doubt he was an istp
Im so impressed.. Really
I think Steve Jobs is an ESTP
is the first guy steve jobs? i thought or could've sworn he was an entj...
Steve Jobs no era ISTP, era ENTJ
Steve jobs wasnt ISTP he was ENTJ
Most of the ISTP skills can be showed well at mechanical and physical stuff and not mainly at speach.
That is why im not very agree.
Incorrect, you are confused. We are not naturally great speaker, this doesn't mean we will forever be weak at it. it is a skill to be mastered like any other, I am never chose to excel at any of the mechanical stuff but I had weak communication skills in highschool and today its one of the things I am best at, it brief periods.
who's the first man talking pls. cz i enjoyed every single word of what saying.
I have the same personality as these guys and the way I know that is because I've done the test
Lmao💀😂😂
So I'm really the only dumb and w/o creativity ISTP or...?
Lmao I’m dumb too but I’m more into the creative and crafty part of life
This video does more harm than good to personality study. Your typing was very off. Careful understanding of cognitive functions is how you get at this stuff; ISTP = Ti - Se - Ni - Fe. If someone actually wants to learn how to type you have to move beyond your preconceptions and look at how these building blocks of cognition lead us toward picking certain words, phrases and down certain life paths.
Steve Jobs - ENTP
He’s talking about Te Critic.
Jack Dorsey - ISTP
You got that one right.
Frank Zappa - ENTP
Again with the Te Critic this time with Fe Ethics.
Ashton Kutcher - ISFP
Fi - Se - Ni - Te
‘I don’t know how much I’m allowed to reveal.’ Te inferior.
Nick Pulovski (character) - ESFP (My guess)
Clint Eastwood himself is an ISTP, characters aren’t the same types as their actors.
??? I didn’t know who that was
Melania Trump - ISFP
TONS of Fi. Everything is what she likes or doesn’t like. It’s all very grounded in the present (Se).
Dali Lama - INFP
It’s not even close.
Eminem - ISTP
You got that one right too.
Christian Bale - ISTP
Another right one.
You got 4.5/10. That gives you credit for the one I didn’t know and half credit for Clint Eastwood. 30-45% isn’t acceptable in a video that was produced and had the ability to fact check before released.
Now that I've actually put that out there it's probably obvious to some that Jack Dorsey, Clint Eastwood, Eminem and Christian Bale are the same type but the others don't 'feel' like they do. Learning to type snowballs, once you get a type figured out it's easy to spot that 'energy'. I personally have a lot of Extraverted Intuition and so my methods are going to hinge on me utilizing that tool, but good data, cross checked by others, is how you make your tools better whichever perception functions you happen to have.
@@CaseyCranePhoto nice job. Are you an INTP or an ENTP?
I need a good source of info about the functions can you recommend any? Thanks!
I also agree its not perfectly accurate, and I think its literally just based off of the Celebrity types website. It may or may not be accurate. So we shouldn't take this video seriously.
Most of your examples are vague statements that could have been said by any type. I dont think you get this whole personality stuff
I agree with you for the most part.
My friends is all extrovert so when I'm with them i'm so annoyed they are you noisy
Harry in when harry met sally should be in here
Why did that guy say the word fuck so much?
Not Melania trump lmao
Why is it so weird being a female istp??
WELL I'M AN ISTP SO YOU'RE NOT ALONE
I think it's cool .
Because the world wants girls to wear pretty skirts, kiss everyone's boo-boos, & be feelers. If we were boys there wouldn't be a problem but because we don't work like that it makes things more difficult.
istp here. too much yapping, I think we'd be more direct and using less words to convey our thoughts.
How is Ashton kutcher an ISTP and not an ESTP? He seems very outgoing and the ESTP's in the other video seem really introverted.
Steve Jobs is an ENTJ?
Liane Arandia Why do you think he is an entj? It is always good to hear somebody elses persective :)
+Sara MBTI for one, he's way more abusive than he lets on in interviews.
Just no...read about him, he never planned his life.He was also an introvert.
Liane Arandia hahahahahaha.. NO!
Ti My Sure. ISTPs are tough.
Steve jobs was an entj!
I like Melania Trump.
She dont act like an istp. Im questioning that one.
@@1Skorpia half of these aren't ISTP like Steve Jobs and Ashton Kutcher, ENTP and ESFP respectively, but Melania is an ISTP. She thinks things through for herself, is more responding ergo introverted, is concerned about how others think, doesn't care what she feels and really wants to help other's feelings. She and other ISTPs tend to talk much faster than Miles Davis at 6:45.
@@1Skorpia Why do you think she is too nice? haha
Rickus Kruger Yea I don’t know much about her but what she said in that little clip is a good mentality to have, I admire that
Are they productive?
Yes my dad was
Frank Zappa is absolutely not an istp
He's an ESTP
I don't know what type he is and I had never watched an interview with him before, but I found him annoying AF in this one. I hate people who never stop talking and seem to love listening to themselves.
Appears to be ENTP or INTP to me.
@@jenifermartins2946 🤣🤣🤣funny fuck!
It's just the only examples from the clip and these are not isolated with any personal traits as I think only
Wasn’t interested in any of the topics discussed. Didn’t listen.