Does Hollywood HATE Men?
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From "Star Trek" to basically all Disney movies, men have been displayed as incompetent and lazy. Meanwhile, the ladies have been chosen to outshine these once legendary characters. Indiana Jones, Iron Man, Picard, "Star Trek," and let's not forget about the Hulk. The M-She-U and the rest of Hollywood is making it clear: men are not welcome! - Zábava
Whenever a guy says "I'm a feminist, by the way". I almost die of cringe. 😬
It's the only thing worse than a woman saying that.
If you support women, you shouldn't have to say you're a feminist.
It's so submissive.
@leonardskinerd7758 translated, it means "I'm secretly a totally abusive creep and this is my ploy to insinuate myself closer to victims"
@@whenpigsfly8178 It's ultra simp energy.
Isn't it funny that Hollywood's idea of making "strong female characters" is to make them more like males.
I'm not a woman, but isn't that vaguely insulting?
It shows lack of creativity while destroying their feminity, which defeats the whole purprose of a positive female role model. Or as Cartman would say, "put a chick in it and make her lame and gay (because all strong women have to be lesbians)"
Not just more like males, but more like the worst traits and stereotypes of males that are supposed to be the very things that are supposedly the problem (to be fair, quite a few of those things either are problems or are part of other problems, but others aren't at all, so...)
By making women act like men, it’s like saying that women are envious of men, believe that men are better and that they have to act like men to be powerful. They even try to dress like men but look more like little boys wearing their father’s clothes.
In Horizon Zero Dawn and its Sequel, they changed the main female lead to appear more masculine
Yes totally caricatural…
Hatred of men (misandry) is so common it's invisible. It's like a line from Good Omens: 'she couldn't see it for the same reason someone in Trafalgar Square can't see London'.
And if a man tries to point it out, he's called "toxic" If a woman points it out, she's called a "pick-me"
@@IanM-id8or Sad but true.
Good Omens might be the last new (fictional) TV show I've seen in the last 10 years. Except for the Japanese ones.
@@mdstreeter1460 Well, I meant the book (I don't remember if that line is in the series), but the series was okay too.
Kind of missed the point of the whole of Revelation, though - the Second Coming.
Also, can these feminist white women stop with that vocal fry ?
It makes my hears bleed. 😖
Brie Larson in this interview... omfg.. such a pain with that faked "deep" fried voice of hers, ouch.
Feminist movies now days feels like I’m watching a divorce case
he did this.. he did that...
A divorce from whom, exactly?
@@adamkalb1 ...a divorce from sanity, and profitability.
nowadays
@@bobblehat6603not the first or second wave until 3rd and 4th
The irony of she hulk chick claiming she can control her anger better than Bruce, whilst losing her temper is just wow
which is incredibly offensive to women. These writers are beyond dumbness.
@@Fer_A_LThey really could've gave her a humbling moment there, but it's Disney writers
Then she went and changed immediately back again to prove that she could leaving banner astonished. The same guy who once could floor a flying alien juggernaut and now can get thrown by a speeding car🤦♂️
Maybe I'm giving them too much credit but I thought that was on purpose, as a joke.
@@chriswhite2151 it might have worked as a joke if she hadn’t regained control and changed back again as easily as flicking a light switch
Never underestimate a woman’s ability to rationalize bad behavior and avoid all accountability
You’re thinking of immature girls, not real women
I'm so tired of this statement. That's not a woman trait, it's a human trait. Get over it.
Lauren over here making great points about the ridiculous need to go out of the way to bash men. How shall we respond to this? Ah yes, ridiculously go out of our way to bash women. Perfectly logical and mature.
@mallorycarpinski1160 you just did what the original comment was pointing out. Women are allergic to accountability and it’s systemic. Yall will defend women you don’t even agree with or like just because she is a woman.
You proved the point of the original post. It’s not a human issue, it’s a WOMAN issue.
@@mallorycarpinski1160it’s a woman trait. Your kind is more prone to neuroticism, deal with it woman.
@@mallorycarpinski1160 cry harder
Feminism was never about equality, it was always about putting women first by tearing men down.
Yup 👍
The word feminism is equally between the sexes, what Hollywood is doing isn't that, people need to understand the difference what Hollywood is doing is Misandry, not feminism, that's where the majority seem confused, if they had a strong male and female lead in a film together, that is feminism by the meaning of the word.
@michealrosen I'm saying it was never about that, from the start it was about destroying the family system and creating distrust between men and women.
Feminism is originally about having choices without being judged and It had nothing to do with denying basic biology or exploiting another section of the society
@@michealrosenIt's FEMinism, by the way.
I'm surprised you didn't include the quote from Emily Blunt where she talks about how she actively avoids any movies that mention a strong female character.
I think Emily Blunt made one exception to that when she played a strong female character in Edge of Tomorrow, but in that case there was more to her personality description than simply being a strong female character.
Yes, Emily Blunt is unusually intelligent and insightful.
@@BruceCross Very rare these days in Tinsel Town!
@@user-mi2qw3ns4u So true.
@@adamkalb1 I don't think that's an exception. That was not the "strong female character" everyone hates. The Mary Sue's that do everything perfectly, never could be beaten in anything by a man.
Rita is the character that should be at the start of the feminist movies. Strong enough, but still human. Had powers, developed, lost powers, still fighting like a hell even from the weaker position.
That never ever happend to any new Disney character. They are 100% perfect from the birth right, just like their directors, they don't need training, no "teachers", no strugle, no friends, or family, and their only realization always and everytime is: they can do everything alone.
Rita would be a good start for woman empowerment if they followed in the realistic direction in future movies. That is playing women strong sides, making them their own heroes in what they do best and better then men. Instead they just copying what they hate. "As strong as man" BS. If I want to show I'm a good man I don't start proving that by saying "I can do the same things as Adolf but much better". That's what I dislike. "Women can do everything as the evil men."
There is f-ing reason why nature made humans with 2 sexes. If any of them was "better" or unneccessary or could handle on their own, there wouldn't be the other one already. It's simple as that. Each has its strengths, we best work together.
"She's so strong and he's so weak" *sigh* Ms. Ridley, do you know what you call a story with a weak villain who is easily beaten by the hero, regardless of their respective genders? You call that a bad story, Daisy. If Kylo Ren is far weaker than Rey, that is a problem, because the job of the villain is to put the hero in danger so that the audience wonders how they will save themselves and ultimately do what seems impossible by beating the villain. See Vader vs. Luke in ESB.
And their story is keeping balance in the force....which I guess didn't exist then.
@@Caveman787 The Force didn't exist until those people made it female.
Like The Critical Drinker said "a hero is only as strong as the villain they defeat"
@@Mysticmegster1 That's why Evil has a sorting algorithm, and generally things only go to stronger villains. (with the occasional clever one punching above their weight class.)
The "Woke"-crowd has been around for long while but they didn't have access to Hollywood influence until a certain repugnant pumpkin 🎃 head became PONTUS-45 & the 2 massive protest that occurred in 2017. Hollywood took notice and decided to do a "sea-change" in the direction their movies were going to take. And the Woke gang managed an 'in' to put out their "message"; and so far it has been failing for reasons you have put forth.
Han's death in The Force Awakens and Luke's portrayal in The Last Jedi are other glaring examples. Disney writers took a huge dump on those two characters who are arguably some of the most beloved of all time.
Yes I can’t agree more with this! I was so mad what they did to Han and Luke and honestly it undermined the whole plot for me. I started thinking the entire movie series, “wait, what are we fighting for exactly, how were their lives made better for the rebellion?” When your audience is apathetic about who should win the battle or why they’re even fighting at all that’s a real problem.
Harrison Ford most likely wanted out of Star Wars. But they could've treated the character better.
I left the Force Awakens asking myself. Why wasn't Luke in the Movie? Why isn't he a Jedi Master? Who is this first order and why has the Republic not stopped them?
@@Infamous1892 I left the cinema after watching the "Force Awakens", feeling sad for the current generation who have to watch this distortion of a beloved franchise.
I also put it on the Han and Luke actors, regardless of contract, they went along with their character assassination...At least Mark Hamill tried to warn us at every turn about Jake Skywalker...
Disney's formula for classic male characters: Make them broken and need a woman to heal them: Luke Skywalker (Rey to the rescue), Obi-wan Kenobi (Leia got him out of depression), Indiana Jones (Waller-Bridge knocks him out so he doesn't make a stupid decision), Nick Fury (his Skrull wife Gia fixed him. His British counterpart also had to show him how incompetent he'd become). Even Peter Quill needed Nebula to help him through depression and help Rocket.
It started in sitcoms with the "dumb dad" trope.
Like, the husband being bad at domestic stuff is as old as the sitcom itself. They were doing that as far back as Lucy or The Honeymooners.
But in those old shows it would usually also show the women trying and failing at the things the men always did. And it ended with renewed mutual respect and appreciation for what each one did.
Then some time in the 90s it became: Mom was good at everything, Dad was good at nothing.
Actually no. The toxic masculinity campaign began in 1910 with Thomas Edison and Frankenstein. A female version would have been a comedy.
It's crazy how much they hate men and love women, while at the same time, they love masculinity and hate femeninity.
All these female characters are physically strong, sassy, dominant, leaders, and cool tempered and (supposedly) away from their emotions. Why can't we have a female character who is actually feminine? One who is soft spoken, beautiful in a tender way, that cares for others, that is nurturing, that has a motherly instinct, that doesn't like fighting and that actively wants love and softness in her life. They love stereotypical masculinity and inject all women with it, but despise femininity so much that they always portray it as weakness...
Edit to clarify that I'm talking about female characters created in the past 5 to 10 years, which is when the woke anti femininity started. Female characters created before this explosion of woke were much more diverse and were actually allowed to not be stereotypically masculine
Exactly. That's something I love about Cinderella, Snow White and other female characters who show their strength in different ways.
Like ellen ripley, Sarah connor, trinity, hermione, katniss, Princess Keith, ckarice starling, Mary poppins, Elle woods, wonder woman, black widow, buffy, furiosa just off the tip of my head...
It's intentional inversion. The 'fair is foul and foul is fair' games they love to play.
Basically, hollywood is gender swapping men with women to take over male traits: strong, calm, goodhearted
So true 🇧🇷
The term you are looking for is "Jeff". When the man is incompetent solely to make the woman look good? The most absurd example of this is Spiderwomans boyfriend "Jeff" whose entire purpose was to make Spiderwoman look good by being terrible. This was in the 1970s!!!
So many iconic characters have been "Jeff"ed
That wasn't Spider-Woman, not to me. My Spider-Woman will always be the classic Jessica Drew in her classic costume and portrayal as a complex character who had weaknesses and insecurities to go along with her positive attributes and worked her ass off to overcome them because that's what heroes do. They beat the odds via determination and perserverence along with skill, strength, and smarts. They're not perfect, they earn their victories by pushing themselves beyond their challenges.
This has been going on for longer than we like to admit. Nowadays it's just reached new peaks.
@darthmeow1370 dude. Jessica Drew was the Spiderwoman in the cartoon. And the comic was the basis for the cartoon (the comic came out in 1977, the cartoon in 1979). We are saying the same thing. There are early victims and recent victims, but "Jeff"ing the characters has been happening a long time
You've described every single sitcom husband. Every. Single. One.
Except Ward Cleaver, he was pretty boss.
@stoopidpursun8140 I think a "Jeff" is a slightly different animal than a Homer or a Tim Allen. Plenty of comedies have a straight man and a zany man. And there are notable comedies where the woman was the zany one (Dharma and Greg, Parks and Rec, Lauren Graham and almost anyone they've paired with Lauren Graham). No, a Jeff is someone who serves no other narrative purpose than to make the woman look competent. The insult of it is the idea that women can only look competent by comparison to impossibly villainous buffoons. Go watch Spiderwoman. It's the first episode or two they actually have Spiderman guest spot. And Spiderman becomes an impossibly incompetent buffoon needing Spiderwoman to sweep him aside and save the day.
So toxic masculinity is abhorrent but toxic feminism is empowering ? So laughable.
In regards to True Detective, I punched out in episode 1 when the angry black/eskimo cop told Jodie Foster that if the murdered activist "had been a white girl they would have had the entire state police looking for her white ass". I am done with the trope of the stunning,diverse,brave,badass female character who will undoubtedly solve the crime,save the day,blame the patriarchy & leave a pile of emasculated men in her wake.
How do they keep writing racist characters and assume it's okay?
When it comes to hiring female directors, I think Hollywood has drunken enough of their own Kool-aid to believe that the female director is actually going to make the film better. For no other reason than gender.
Truth. Too bad the average American doesn't know what it means to drink the Kool-aid or where the term came from. When I see college students who can't even name three countries outside of North America, I weep for the future of this country.
What's their default method for "improving" legacy IPs again?
Right, replace the male lead with a toxic woman.
..... and make them gay.
And making her lame and gay.
_"Put a chick in it. Make her gay."_
make 'em a woman, make 'em gay, make 'em black, ship it
Take the "worst" most "toxic" male traits and make that "archetype" a "woman".
Not only did they do that in She Hulk but in the comics, Hulk saves she hulk by giving her a blood transfusion of his own blood (which turns her into a hulk). But NO, can't have that in modern Hollywood! She pulls HIM out of a car wreck and gets his blood in her cut in the show lol
also, since we're on the comic book topic, in Old Man Logan, the Hulk ended up doing more than just giving her a blood transfusion. they f**k and have a family of inbreed Hulks. now that's what i call, 'keeping it in the family.'
It kinda make sense, like bruce would never give his blood to her, cause he knows the blood is dangerous
Other than that the show sucked
This resentment towards males is bleeding into everything. We are having a baby and are frequently on the What To Expect app and the amount of women who are posting threads about being sad/disappointed/devastated to be having a baby boy is absolutely disgusting. It really shocked us.
That’s the point I believe, there is a war on men right now.
For me as a female writer, modern day portrayal of women is even insulting. And not just in movies but also in books. Instead of writing really good and fleshed-out female characters, they decide to write them OP. Everybody automatically loves them for breathing and they basically become Mary-Sues. Which used to bother people but nowadays not that much anymore. They don't need to actively do something, because they outsmart everyone by excisting. People often don't realize it takes character development from them. They need to be flawed, they still need to learn and sometimes make stupid mistakes so they can learn from them (which goes for every character aside from gender).
On the other hand have their male main characters (or supporting characters) who are also a carbon copy of each other. They don't contribute anything (or very little) and they either simply exist or they are written so incompetent in the worst way possible.
You can write both: strong female and male characters. But they are strong for very different reasons. And I hate that modern media pretends like it's wrong to have a feminime side. To be soft, emotional and because of this we can be empathetic. That women's strength is different from men's strength and while there are women who can also be physically strong, there's also strength in being mentally, emotionally and strategically capable. Which of course also goes for men but from a different perspective. Liking girly stuff, romance and being a dreamer has become so stigmatized in our age that it makes me sad. Of course movies can also focus on family dynamics and other relationships instead of romance but it's not like movies from the past didn'tt do that either (especially when talking about Disney movies). But I miss these movies that made you really feel something. I can't relate to any of the (female) characters that exist in this era (or rather there are not many I could relate to) whether male or female. Because they are not written for people to relate to anymore. And none of these writers can tell me tht this is something they would strive to be (or rather I hope it wouldn't be because that's just sad).
I guess it's fair. Most of us, including women who have sons, brothers, husbands and fathers that they love with all their hearts, hate "hollyweird". It's one of the main reasons I don't waste money on streaming or movies. I have a DVD collection and you tube is free and we have prime for packages so all the rest can pound sand. So the feeling MUTUAL.
Dvds are the best
I'm with you. I watch "Lois and Clark, the New Adventures of Superman" on DVD every week , lol.
Yes they do.
Alien/Alien 2 was great. Strong female character with heart and soul!
Last kiss goodnight was great. Another good strong female character with heart!
The list goes on and on....
Princess Leia was strong,smart, and beautiful.
People today just can't write without stuffing it full of crap.
She-Hulk "Incompetent men telling how to do my job"
Shows revealed she was so Incompetent, no wonder Incompetent men tells her how to do her job. 😂😂😂
The emasculation of Hollywood
Looks like misandry is real in Hollywood with movies and TV .
Thank you you understand what's going on, people saying it's feminism don't understand that feminism means equally between the sexes, vs Misandry which is Hollywood
They all forget about Xena, Jordan O’Neill from GI Jane, Sarah Connor, Eowinn LOTR. Women who are feminine charming and capable. Good written characters from a time when media was enjoyable.
Not even them, look at the movies from the 1920s. Strong female characters had always existed . Even in ancient history,
Not even the greatest dystopian science fiction writers could've predicted this woke matriarchy
However, a lesser dystopian writer can predict it, when you have seen Codename: Kids Next Door's Operation F.U.T.U.R.E. which stands for: Female's Utopian Trap Unleashes Reprehensible Evil. Codename Kids Next Door is very good with acronyms.
Then reality will kick their heads in as no one will protect them when the real monsters breach the gates.
Men are wired not to see it that way. That's the weird part.
@oraz. men are wired to see women as victims, and women are wired to see themselves as victims, so this is an easily exploitable dynamic
George Orwell, Aldous Huxley, Isaac Asimov all made the call in their novels about a dystopian society that turn our basic norms into crimes against the state and here we are, a slice of each of them calling it right. Fire every owner, producer, Director, and Studio Head that turned a blind eye and allowed this travesty to happen. It's time to wipe it clean and go back to basics.
Hollywood needs to prioritize quality over diversity.
They will, when Disney stock hits $1 a share
Where were you for the last 100 years when it was 99.99% men making everything.
Diversity, by itself, isn't the problem. Laziness, being too cheap/greedy, or just not giving a darn is the real problem. Removing all diversity will not cure what's wrong with Star Wars.
@@jonathanbranch731 diversity isn't the problem. But the prioritization of it over actually making quality content is. Laziness is part of it too, with the recycling of older ip to make a new worse version. Case and point, the force awakens is simply a copy and past of a new hope with the only differences being worse writing and a more diverse cast. I didn't say remove all diversity I just said that quality content should be preferred over diversity content. Now if there is quality diverse content that is another story but the fact that you felt you needed to reply to my comment just seems like you misunderstood my point
@@henrytjernlund is that a critique? Because your comment doesn't really make sense if it is. I don't really see a problem with 99.99 percent of men or women making everything as long as it's quality. There are garbage male writers and directors and garbage female writers and directors. But there are also good of each.
Thanks to Chris Gore and Alan Ng at FILM THREAT we now know the current mantra in Hollywood is "Male and pale is stale."
(And makes the most money bc white males are the second biggest demo and the biggest demo for these type movies). But they prefer to gloss over that detail
This is why I loved the first Wonder Woman so much - yes she’s clearly stronger than the men but she still chooses to team up with them and they work together well. They all use their strengths and that gets the mission accomplished. See also Agent Carter - zero powers, but in the movies and her (sadly too short) show she is strong, capable, yet also vulnerable and has flaws. Oh, and both of those women are feminine! I love how Peggy can defend herself while wearing bright red lipstick. Those are the kinds of women I like to see, who go through growth and don’t have everything handed to them
Even within the ridiculous rant by Jen to Bruce Banner about how she's so much better at controlling her anger, she's...getting very angry.
Her - I have to deal with cat-calling.
Him, not replying - when I lost it i destroyed New York, I was hunted for years, I shot myself in the face.
Marvel has irrevocably ruined She Hulk for me
We saw this same shti in the recent animated series:
Blue Eyed Samurai.
SHE, with no real training, was able to decimate hundreds of TRAINED samurai, mercenary warriors, take MASSIVE amounts of physical punishment and perform feats of physical strength that were never explained.
Also, the only men who weren't villainous a**holes were the blind sword-maker and the doofus, NO-HANDED, noodle maker boy who pledged himself as her servant.
Mary-Sue all day long.🤨
i still like that show tho. i am willing to suspend my disbelief a bit for it. there are parts in the show where other characters comment on how easily her bones break, like a woman. so there is that, even tho she is able to carry on like normal despite her broken bones. still, i enjoyed the show.
Indeed. This ninja show is a bad example of "women yay, men suck" type thing. And we saw her training and be trained. And she does get hurt, badly.
Batwoman and She Hulk - infinitely better examples.
I disagree. There was a diverse range of male characters in that show. Was there a Mary-Sue element. Yes. Were the fingerprints of feminism noticeable? Yes. But the story was well written and the protagonist was multilayered (not just some psychopath aka Captain Marvel). We also have to bear in mind than feminism is part of mainstream society so it is inevitable that you will get elements of it in all media produced in the west.
@@dicerevo feminism sucks. Any feministic element sucks. Society hates the truth and the truth is that being sexist to Men is normalised.
Its not just the lack of experience of the female directors they choose, its also the female writers they choose.
who also have no experience....reading or writing or dating or doing things except looking pretty
DEI stands for Destroy Everyone's Icons. Destroy them and replace them with a Mary Sue female. Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Obi-Wan, Picard, Indiana Jones, Thor, Mad Max...the list goes on. The heroes of my youth are gone.
"Does Hollywood h@te men?"
Why ask a question you already know the answer to?
I imagine that asking the question for the title is less likely to be de monetised than "Hollywood hates men!"
So this is a representation of an even bigger societal problem, where as a culture we don’t even know what a strong male role model is. When the standard of the day is, fatherless homes, women who claim they don’t need a man, therefore raising boys who don’t want to be one, well you can see how we got into this mess. I love a good female character I just think that strong male characters are just as worthwhile and needed more than ever.
I think any statistic on fatherless homes tells us everything we need to know since a child who grows up without a positive father figure is way more likely to have addictions, go to jail, drop out of school. In every conceivable way the numbers show that kids need strong, good men in their lives. Even as an adult I still look to my father for guidance. Women and men are meant to compliment each other, we don’t need women to act like men, they are strong and amazing in their own way.
“Strong male” in itself is the problem because they don’t want strong men. They want yes men who will go with the narrative. The systemic eraser of strong men is the entire point.
That was my thought. Would they even be able to write a strong male character? Could they write a guy who thought it was his duty to storm Normandy beach? Could they write just a modest man who makes sacrifices for his family or has a strong moral character in the face of struggles? But I'm not sure they're better at writing women. Back in the day, when they wrote Ripley in Aliens, they didn't make her all-powerful. They made her motivated. My point is that the strong female characters we get now have the depth of cardboard cutouts.
One detail is that, back in the day of Cary Grant, Jimmy Stewart, Gregory Peck, there was a tendency to make movies for adults and expect children to see them. I think around the 1980s children had enough disposable income that they were more appealing as a market. So now, the average movie is made for children with an expectation that adults will follow them in the door. In 2003, AFI did a lost of top film heroes. Number 1 was Atticus Finch. He's not necessarily a character you'd get if the state of the industry is about pitching at 8-year-olds to sell toys.
I love this comment.
Thank the Rabbis
Stop picking shit men
Yes it does. I'm in the demographics they told not to go see their creations in theaters. Haven't gone to a movie theater since and it's actually had a positive effect on my life, cause I've saved a lot of money.
go see Godzilla Minus One! It's very non-Hollywood.
Haven't seen it yet, I hear great things about it. And it was filmed in Japan, far away from Hollyweird.
Obi Wan feeling guilt for Anakin's downfall makes sense but the whole little Leia shit made 0 sense
Exactly. She’s a sassy little brat who leads Obi-Wan around like he’s in the stages of dementia. If I want to see that I can turn on the news.
Just because the population is approximately 50/50 male to female. That doesn't mean that every job needs to be 50/50 male to female. People have different interests. Those interest span both gender and background. We need to start seeing society made up as individuals not as groups or collectives.
It's easier for the customer to boycott woke films than it is for the industry to keep losing money.
you sure about that? the industry is down billions and still going strong, meanwhile the fanboys are feeling the burn.
"Woke" this "woke" that...
@@sojalemmi1515how many more billions can they lose? "Fans" (clown) are protesting with their wallets. I didn't lose a dime. Fkn shill.
@@sup3414durr what a comeback!
@@sojalemmi1515 no it's not.
I miss when the Doctor (from Doctor Who) was something men could aspire to being - a problem-solver who prioritised brains over brawn and could bring out the best in others while showing them the wonders of the universe.
Exactly! I was devastated when they announced they were changing him into a woman for no apparent reason other than to get woke points. And then they proceeded to retcon all of his history and say he actually was always a woman.. truly horrible writing. I’m still sad for this show.
@@Brittanysplittany "changing him into a woman for no apparent reason other than to get woke points." Or maybe the narrative literally allows it but okay.
you do know that men can look up to women right? The Doctor can be a role model for anyone. Boys can look up to a woman as the Doctor.
@@friendlyotaku9525 It's a shame you're not still a woman. *She* would have understood. Too bad you got downgraded.
A female Doctor could *in theory* be all of those things... Sadly, in theory, not in practice... a shame and a waste... The made the Doctor weak and morally bankrupt and were proud of it.
The black girl name is "REVA" & the show is called "Reva a Star Wars story" guest starring Obi-Wan 😂
They assume that a high number of women wants to direct movies and disregard all the females actress with lead roles that came before them.
The problem is Hollywood is making STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS not STRONG CHARACTERS THAT ARE FEMALE.
For example.
The Black Widow played by Scarlet Johansson is a STRONG CHARACTER WHO IS FEMALE.
Everybody loves the Black Widow character.
Capt Marvel played by Brie Larson is a STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER. Nobody likes this Capt. Marvel character.
The problem is a strong woman = a mother. The problem is anger for women is the closest substitute for testosterone. It keeps them moving forward. The Hollywood machine produces antagonism aka eventual female testosterone currently, not art or memorable entertainment.
That is a damn good way to put it!
I think Hollywood should shift the focus from strong female characters to motivated female characters.
Thats rubbish, its just shit writing and strong women means dump on men. Cpt Marvel is just a badly written character, she started off bad and people cant be bothered to give her a chance now.
@@56redgreen u didnt prove that the OP's post was rubbish with that response.
It's crazy to think that Disney & others are so worried about checking boxes that they hire writers, directors & producers that aren't qualified, don't love or even KNOW the movies or characters. It's like hiring the people that did the Die Hard movies to do a Rom-Com.
It all comes down to raising women up by standing on the necks of men.
I understand the whole "suspension of disbelief", but c'mon!
When fantasy is so far away from reality, it's the silliest thing since Silly came to Silly Town.
Lauren - recommendation on how it SHOULD be done (though it's been defended of course): The Expanse. Multicultural, multi gender characters, all strong, yet all with weaknesses, and they succeed by leaning on each other. Wish more were like that (and wish Amazon funded the last 3 books rather than Rings of Horsepucky...)
Not just Hollywood
Yeah it’s basically everywhere
Bruh! I just watched the first episode of the re-booted animated He-Man....
and it was ALL about the Princess posturing and saying why she DESERVES to be the next Master-At-Arms.
No He-Man to be seen.
Zie-man
So it was all about She-Man ?
@@zappbrannigan3005 I was just going to say they should have called it that.
Or that Prince Adam was killed but Teela goes off on his grieving parents about how she wasn't in the loop about his secret identity
She-Hulk: "When incompetent men explain my own area of expertise to me"
This area of expertise being law, in a series where the writers didn't understand law, and it showed.
Also saying you're better at controlling your anger because you do it more than someone whom was literally relentlessly hunted by his own country's military for years and also forced into gladiatorial combat on another planet, is a bit of a stretch.
Gone are the days when you could pick a flick from a theatre marquee. Now you have to investigate every film like a detective going through garbage cans.
'I'm a feminist by the way'
It's like a nervous tick or tourette sydrome
I’m a feminist by the way, translation, I’m a simp by the way.
Don’t forget Scott Pilgrim animated series kills him in episode 1 and has the rest of show be about Ramona Flowers.
wtf - how can it be called "Scott Pilgrim" if Scott is dead? God I hate modern media.
Yeah not a fan of the graphic novel series to begin with. The artist just doesn't have a style I like. The movie is uh-mazing, but the creator of Scott Pilgrim has said that because of how disappointing the box office was for the movie that he would basically would do what the fans wanted. And a lot of the fans dump all their disdain on Scott, which is ridiculous because all the characters are terrible people (even Knives) and Scott's evolution is what the movie is all about. And let's be honest, he wasn't a completely unlikable character. He was funny and selfish, which made you cringe at some parts but also understand why girls liked him or why he was a believable character.
They should have kept the comic book line in the movie, “What kind of IDIOT cheats on a girl named “Knives”?”
Isn't that pretty much what happened in Dr Strange 2 with Doc dying within the first scene and then becomes sidelined by a boring female character with two mothers?
Dude I was watching the series and had to drop it cuz Scott was not in it for like over half the series. A bait and switch if I’ve ever seen one.
Also, just like most modern works, all the females were competent and all the males were either arrogant, incompetent, or straight up wimps
yep, who would have known that degrading and pushing away 50% of your customer base is a good thing ? I learn something from Disney everyday ! Thanks Bob, Kevin and Kathleen !
You can hate the past of Hollywood for being dominated by men if that and other things about old movies offend you, but rewriting the past to be more diverse, blaming the audience for not watching your own bad writing and directing, insulting those who still care about pop culture icons we hold dear and near, and using homophobia, racism, sexism or transphobia as a shield for lazy writing are all the wrong solutions to encourage a more diverse and progressive future for filmmaking! The Terminator's contested Dark Fate sequel and the live-action remake of Mulan prove that even once-popular IPs that had a female lead are not safe from being "modernized" by virtue signalers, when they make taking care of your own kids to help the next generation seem like a bad thing, or make Mulan a boring character who is OP by her chi and does not have to go through the same training as the male soldiers to be a strong fighter like them.
This is why I am glad The CW Powerpuff's production plans blew up before it even started airing. Mediaholic, I think you would like The Creator and The Holdovers because they are both original Hollywood movies from 2023 that might not be huge blockbusters, but tell good stories with male lead characters and competent male directors and writers who were allowed to be creative and never treated female characters as "less important" and show that Hollywood is not entirely devoid of creativity yet. If you do not want to believe that everyone in Hollywood is devoid of creativity, then you need to pay more attention to newer films and shows that are not yet a big franchise. February 9, 2024, 11:36pm
I wish they would just make good movies💀 I’m not against women getting more roles, but when them being a woman is more important than telling a good story that’s where they start to lose me. Not to mention they can never just write strong female characters. they have to surround them by mediocre men to raise them up higher
I’m rewatching Netflix’s Daredevil and the way they handled elektra is great. She’s smart, cunning, is a proficient fighter, and more or less independent. She is a genuinely strong and interesting female character. They did all that while having her pretty much be a side character to Daredevil, one of the best written characters in all of the MCU, yet she still stands out and you can tell she’s a strong character without her out right saying it or hinting towards it.
preach brother😊
"they can never just write strong female characters. they have to surround them by mediocre men to raise them up higher"
Thing is, it does the exact opposite. It implies women only look strong next to weak men.
I've never considered women to be strong. They aren't, the vast majority anyways. Women are intelligent, resilient, & sneaky. They had to be, to survive around a bunch of brutes like us. Blame evolution.
One main problem with Hollywood is that they believe the general audience will support ANYTHING a women does. No the general audience aren't activist they just want good story telling. Hollywood needs to quick listening to pronoun bio activist who don't even support their movies in theaters but complain when others don't support it either. Why can't we go back to good story telling instead of political driven movies that most people don't want.
Personally, I stopped being mad when I realized Disney lost a billion dollars doing this and yet they aren't course correcting. That just proves something fishy is going on.
It's not about "the story" anymore. It intentionally is about "the message".
@@ericson_of_eric All these public companies groveling at the feet of investment bankers like Blackrock, Vanguard, and State Street who use a DEI score similar to a CCP social score. If people with investments would dump those, they might seek profits before politics.
A lot of good movies are plenty politically driven... the difference is that they're Good Movies. There's a political message, but they don't feel the need to ram it down your throat at every opportunity to the detriment of the movie about Something Else, they just make a good movie that's about the political thing they want to say.
I made a two-part video about this when I was talked about how brave I think Iman Vellani is for saying that the box office numbers of The Marvels are Bob Iger's concern and not hers, and gave a longer explanation for why I agree with her on that. I also reminded everyone that Morbius and Thor: Love and Thunder were both bad superhero films led by male actors, writers and directors but hardly anyone talked about men starring in them or directing them, so The Marvels and Madame Web are also bad superhero films which are not bad only because they were led by female actors, writers and directors.
@@adamkalb1 Morbius and Thor Love and Thunder were so bad I agree. I can't watch them again once was enough
Don't forget about Suicide Squad video game, where every male superhero character gets disgraced except for the only female superhero who gets respected.
Disney is losing a lot of cash because of these kind of decisions, and I’m here for it.
LIGHTYEAR IS A RIPOFF! They humiliated him just to one up him with a 20 year daughter from a LESBIAN of all things. As a Toy Story fan I refuse to call it canon also his suit was mostly as though it was ripped right out of HALO.
Halo was originally intended to be a strategy video game.
@@ChristianFrates1997 I was just saying that the style of the suit looks like it was ripped right out of HALO (because the design they went with was blocky)also I’m not a gamer really at best occasional app games but I have a relative who was big into gaming specifically games like HALO or BATTLEFRONT years and years ago also he had HALO toys
Don't forget Thor.
Neither 007.
yes, she did bring up the take of Jane Foster.
@@darthtepes Yeah but she's never brought up the Flick, which was a sexual assault played for humour, or that his female friends chose to ogle him rather than help him.
Poor Brie, she failed as a youth actor, an "Avril" clone musician and now as an adult actor. Maybe she will take a hint and find a new job.
It is funny how nobody remembers the names of the token characters unless they're constantly reminded of them
It's funny, my mom and I are watching "Fringe" right now and the main character in that, a Homeland agent named Olivia, is a hands-down badass and they never, once, make it about her gender or have her show up her male counterparts just because she's a woman. Hollywood has forgotten that we love badass women when they are written competently.
Have you seen Nikita with Maggie Q ?
"Does Hollywood HATE Men?"
Lol... no sh*t Sherlock!
Disney wasn't satisfied with simply KILLING Harrison Ford in star Wars, they had to humiliate and demoralise him for an entire movie with Indiana Jones. Han was still Han until Kylo killed him. I suppose Kathleen Kennedy wasn't okay with just removing the strong interesting males, because Luke was just VIOLATED. And then to punish Harrison Ford for having the dignity to DIE Indiana Jones became just as bad, if not worse that Luke.
I've been watching older movies all 2024, I've been done with new Hollywood
I would even add the strength of a female does not lie in how much they are like men, but in their cunning, attractiveness, their emotional strength. Physical strength isnt the only kind of strength. I have four sisters and what I appreciate about each one is not because they can outrun or outlift me, but rather their minds, their humor, and often their ability to outmanipulate me. A great femme fatale is one who knows how to use her charms to seduce the stupid male. But no, Hollywood only sees strength as a male quality, and that means goodbye to interesting characters.
This is the quintessential modern woman - "I'm strong and Independent....but rely completely on men paving the way and opening all of the doors for me, so I can get the easiest road possible to be better than men". "I don't need no man...except for pretty much ever facet of my modern and privileged life". "Anything men do, women can do....except open jars, reach the top shelf, blue collar jobs, win wars, and have a conversation where no one commits social destruction, or tries to compete in the victim Olympics."
They say they hate "toxic masculinity", but they write the modern female leads with that exact same personality.
They don't hate men's money...they just don't seem to know how to get it.
Lest we forget James Bond they killed him dead it's a shame, they also demolished Eddie Murphy's boomerang just ripped it to shreds and it is a classic iconic piece of urban Hollywood history
Actually, I’m glad he’s dead. I bet they would ruin bond if he was still alive.
But it was still sad tho.
Is it a totally different film now because they cut scenes when it plays on tv ?
@@jazzbollywood the TV show spin off with his daughter and friends rip into it with fake woke millennial drivel I didn't like the show but give them a c + for trying
@@jazzbollywood it's a tv series only 2 seasons
I love the way old Brie was already claiming that she had carried a major franchise before she had done such? After the awesome performance of The Marvels, we have proven that Brie, at least, cannot carry a major franchise. Can a woman carry a franchise and was Larson the first to do so? Well, I think Sigourney Weaver might say to Plank, “hold my beer”. I also think that Linda Hamilton may also say, “hold my beer, Brie”. Brie may want to wait until she has actually accomplish something before patting herself on the back.
How Brie continues to ignore the many women who accomplished what she only claims to have done is disrespectful to those women who have actually carried franchises many years before she came to Hollywood. I seriously doubt we will see any new Captain Marvel movies in the future.
Amen. She is proud of her ignorance of movie history... As far as old Hollywood goes... and I'm talking product, not their phoney-baloney culture - sexism only reared it's head in the B movies because of the limits of B movie genres. But there was a "war of sexes" in most A list movies, and the female stars proved to be even matches with their male co-stars. (Now, if they got paid a fraction of what the males were, that's shit, but we're talking movie content.)
Human Target was an action series from years ago.
Season 1 - highly competent team of men protecting people and saving the day. Excellent.
Season 2 - the team was bought by a lady who proceeded to lecture and question these highly competent men at every turn. Painful.
There's no harm in strong female characters, Beatrix Kiddow and Clarice Starling springs to mind. But the open misandry is vile
I don't watch regular cable anymore at all except i see some shows on at the gym. The show I saw on the other day a 5'6" 108lb woman was beating up man after man that was over 6' 200lbs.... its gotten ridiculously unbelievable
Look at The Flash tv series. At points he felt like a supporting character in his own show. We spend more time with the female characters. And Charlie's Angel's not only is a female Bosley, but the original one that is played by Patrick Stewart (previously played by Bill Murray in the first film) spoiler alert, now he's a traitor.
i want a superhero movie titled, "Power Couple" about a husband/wife superhero team that are equally as powerful as one another, that fight side by side, but the man gets injured either protecting someone or some such. the wife then has to take on the full responsibility of the superhero work whilst the husband recovers and she comes to realize that he really made the difference. it would be a story about understanding that no person is an island. i don't need it to have all the 'normal' drama of a cheating subplot or that they are secretly in an unhappy marriage. those plots have been done to death, but a simple story about valuing the worth of your partner. "you don't miss the water until the well runs dry", story
Thought that answer has been pretty obvious for a while now, not just in Hollywood, but in all areas of life
Gina Carano proved men LOVE believable strong women with her Cara Dune Mandalorian character and I think THAT'S why she was fired - her existence wrecked their narrative that men are sexist, undermining the lie all this is built on.
We LOVED The Expanse for this exact reason - ALL the women were incredibly strong, but with a REASON and without weakening the men, without making us stupid or evil or greedy.
0:00 This attitude towards men is fine when making her docs about abusive societal norms in Pakistan. However, Disney/Lucasfilm wants her to bring that same attitude towards men into Star Wars. That makes it a chip on her shoulder and will override any story they make.
12:04 They edited out her assaulting him as he's walking away. This scene was a F-U to the trolls, complaining she didn't smile on the poster or in the first trailer.
It ALL smacks of the famous George Orwell quote - "All animals are equal, but, some are more equal than others..." (Animal Farm). BUT... IT SHOULD BE...
Equality for all, equally....
😎🇬🇧
It's either "really green" or "wet behind the ears", not "green behind the ears". (Just an FYI; "Green" is a reference to a young plant and "wet behind the ears" is (YUCK) recently passed through the birth canal). Humbly, from a 68 year old fan.
Short answer: YES
The latest movie with spiderman characters Madam Web is another attempt to replace Peter Parker with a female version. It includes women who take the identity of Spider-girl and Spider- woman. There is one other character in the comics they will probably put on screen soon, a girl called Silk is an Asian teen who gets bitten by the very same Spider that bit Peter Parker.
The advertising industry also does this with the 'stupid dad/ husband/ smart mom/ wife & kids' trope. And let's not forget how this narrative is used in TV sitcoms as well.
They've always been promoting women as protagonist's since the 60's. The difference now is they want to promote the type of woman that nobody likes.
I wonder why the military is struggling to meet its recruitment quotas?
Obesity and criminal records are the two biggest reasons.
Almost like being demonized and hated for characteristics beyond your control will lead to less willingness to fight and die for a society that actively hates you.
Is water wet?
No. Water is not wet.
"Wetness" is the application of water to a dry object or surface.
Similarly, you can't "burn" fire, fire "burns"
So no, water is not wet. 😊
@@FirstnameLastname-yc2mt imagine saying so much bs.
Water is wet. F off
@@FirstnameLastname-yc2mt So, water identifies as "wet"?
Actually, no. Water isn't wet.
"She's so strong and he's so weak" may be the case but when "she" is the protagonist and "he" is the villain and she is "strong" and he is "weak" then there's a problem in the writing, all tension is gone. That's the main problem of todays movies, not female leads.
If Ripley would be blasting Xenomorphs left and right, this would be sh*tty as well, if Sarah Conner would eat Terminators for breakfast,...then first of all, who's her dentist and does he or she take patients? Bottom line, we had figured this out years ago, even long before the first woman, who is obviously Jennifer Laurence, appeared on screen, back in the 70s we had Sigourney Weaver and Pam Grier, the 80s and 90s and early 2000ands were full of kick ass women, Buffy, Charlies Angels (also 70s, yes), the Bride, Janeway, whatever Kate Bekinsale did and more.
Hollywood, you've created a problem that already had a solution, what happens next, do we forget how to build literal bridges again?
Also She-Hulk writers: getting compliments on the street and someone taking the time to explain you sh*t isn't worse than being in an accident of a gone wrong experiment, having some gamma ray-related condition no one knows about, beeing forced to give up your life to find a cure, "with no one helping you" and beeing chased around the world by your own country, never beeing able to sleep in peace,...I should not have to explain that...
Its like these people have never even suffered mild trauma beyond that.
Fun Fact: the director of Birds of Prey was a woman who had never directed an action sequence. They had to bring in the director of John Wick, a man, for the action sequences.
You read that right, they had to bring in a man to do the female director's job.
0:01 Sharmeen is so stunning and brave. She should return to Pakistan and preach her ways there.
Yes, yes they do. Particularly these days.
The failure of Disney is a lesson in what happens when you substitute the question "who's best for the job" with the question "who's the most diverse".
I think I need to mention this because I don’t know anyone who’s mentioned it but the trend of emasculating the men in movies started much earlier with a lot of romantic comedies and family movies in the early to late 2000’s which ultimately led to the death of those genres on the big screen.
What’s funny and not looked at in these arguments is Movie Theaters. What was movie theaters once it was place a loving or romance budding couples could for blockbusters and dollar theater rewatches,
A place a young man would prove his worth by buying a young lady a bucket of popcorn to share. Now prices are higher, attention spans are shorter, and social norms say no young man you can’t assume anything about women but go on pay high price to go watch your gender be humiliated go and feel less about yourself or the world because your heroes are no longer heroes compared to their female replacements. When a man says no, guess what a woman will say I’m not paying to go to a movie by myself, I don’t know anything about comic books why would I go see it. The reviews say it sucks and I can’t have a date to pay for it so I go into it risk free. So no I’ll stay home and watch Netflix because I’m not paying for another streaming service (Disney +)
And whats even weirder is that most of these projects have men has their main target audience... Like star wars for instance... That makes no sense from a commercial pov
I think that pisses them off
There is no cure for stupid.
The "Holdovers" is a relatively low budget film that came out in late 2023. Amazingly, it has a strong "Old White Guy" character AND a strong Black woman character (as well as a young male character). The writing is superb, the character development unfolds gradually and captures the audience's full attention. The film stands in stark contrast to all the ideological BS being produced by corporate Hollywood. The truly amazing thing is that Holdovers proves that films don't have to have "representation" of race, gender, and sexual preference for the aidience to identify with the characters. I found myself identifying with all three characters as the story unfolded. Holdovers stands as a rebuke of Hollywood.
She Hulk is fascinating;
Dealing with being cat called and having men explain her job to her caused her greater suffering than the past involving an abusing father, bullying, etc. that Bruce suffered. Therefore she’s obviously and justifiably more adept at dealing with anger than Bruce could ever hope to be