Does The Canon R7 Match The C70?
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- Is the Canon EOS R7 a good b cam to the Canon C70? Image quality, dynamic range, colors, log profiles Clog2 Clog3, autofocus, frame rates, codecs, media, usability.
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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:27 - What Makes A Good B Cam
0:54 - Why Do You Need A B Cam
1:47 - Image Quality & Log Profiles
4:03 - Why The R7 Is A Good B Cam
5:11 - Clog 2 & Clog 3
5:39 - Recording Modes & Codecs
6:43 - Other Uses For A B Cam
7:07 - High Frame Rates
7:36 - Photography
7:58 - R7 Does Not Replace The C70
8:45 - Wrapping It Up
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yay! been waiting for this one. Good job, I've been on the fence about whether to pick up an r7 or save more and get an r5c... that extra couple of grand saved might be better spent on glass for my c70 and r7. (quietly hoping canon drops an update in the future that gives better codecs and framerates)
Hi Josh, great “real world” comparisons , honestly on the big iPad Pro the only image that looked a little different was the one you mentioned with the tree particularly the leaves in the centre. I have the R7 on order ….waiting waiting …. for a slightly different use-case and thats as an affordable RF mount backup to my R5. I do occasional events and short “places of interest” pieces here in NZ for YT, I incorporate video into my YT clips but I don’t see myself as particularly skilled in that area even though I started out making 8mm movies with friends back in the 70’s !! The need for a backup for events is self evident but I really wanted to ditch the old 50D I’ve been using and get something closer in capabilities to the R5 without breaking the bank, I was looking at the R6 until the R7 was announced. Keep up the reviews I find them really interesting and useful. Cheers Chris from NZ
Great job, I really appreciate all the effort you put into making these videos
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this comparison! Thought about the C70 but bought an R7 to have some good 4k options to collect video material for a movie about energy (solar, wind, nuclear, fossil, etc) in a good quality. As "two-body-shooter" the R7 makes it much easier to buy a 2nd body and lugging both bodies around!
Your video makes me believe that the R7 is the right choice for me maybe lagging some video features but sporting low weight, reasonable quality and the IBIS system is really great. I use the horizon correction feature and love it, just on a tripod. I can use a simple tripod, adjust it +/-2 degree and the camera does the rest!
Wow, dude! Killer testing as always Josh, thanks 👊
Thanks Jay!
Great video. I am planning to by R7 as soon as it will be back in stock to go along with my R5c as a B cam.
Thanks!
Thanks for this Josh. I’ve had the C70 since launch and love it. For a while I had no b-cam (for the first time in my life) due to the kind of content I was working on, but I recently had to get one in a rush and ended up with a Panasonic S5 because it was cheap refurbished with good image quality. I’ve been matching them through the CineMatch plugin which is amazing and gets you very close. I’d pre-ordered the R5c but felt it overkill considering I primarily just use my C70 so cancelled it, but now with the R7 coming along it does make a lot of sense to switch out the S5. It’s a tough one!!! In your two cam interview setup the background is definitely a different colour, whilst the skin tones are very similar. Did you manage to try Clog3 from the C70 and R7 in that setup? I’m guessing it would be a closer match but as always, different sensors just look different even with the same brand.
great review and killer combo! I have an r7 as a b cam for my c70 and it works a treat at a great price point.. the ibis when combined with rf stabilised lenses also makes it super easy to shoot hand held, very smooth, great for quick B roll shots!
Thanks! Yeah I agree, great combo.
I’d imagine clog3 isn’t the issue - the sensor and processor in the c70 is vastly different than even the r5c. Apparently clog2 also has more noise and the DR between them, within the same camera, isn’t that much more noticeable as per canons writing. Pretty amazing how close it can be for so cheap (r7) - once canon does internal luts I may go that route. Their skin tones are the best. Wish I could get that skin tone *easily* baked into Sony 😊
I was hoping to get the body only but that’s currently not an option. But your analysis is great because I am looking for a Bcam match for my c70. I’m ready to make it happen. Looking forward to more now as a sub!
Thanks for watching!
I would love to get the R7 as a B-cam for my C70. The deal killer is the inability to output HDMI while using the LED and recording internally. Often I livestream it via an HEVC encoder, and this basically makes it unworkable for that. Now looking at the FUJI XH-2S which doesn't have such a foolish limit.
Coming from a 7d mkII, would you consider this a good step up? I’ve been using a canon XF405 for all my 4k video so far.
I ask you something i am. New for video i try to use Clog 3 at night and I can’t see nothing, is nit good Clog 3 at night ? Which you recommend to shoot at night R7 thanks ☺️
Thanks Josh, great video. 👍🏻📸☀️🏝🌊🌋🌴☕
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Excellent Josh, as always! So, do you still consider the C70 a great starter for a Director (me) learning cinematography? I wonder if the fact it isn't a full-frame camera is a problem. This was my thinking: if it isn't a problem, I could buy a C70, use a R7 for a limited B Camera, then hire DPs who can use any of the Canon line (C300s, etc.). What do you think? Thanks again for your fine stuff!
Thank you! Yes the C70 is still a great camera. It's very versatile too.
@@Josh_Sattin Thanks Josh! My DP was starting to teach me the C Series, but died unexpectedly. I entered a Digital Marketing program, to learn how to sell my films better, and got way-laid from filming for a while. Now, I need to buy something and start shooting as another cameraman. We always used the Canons, so as long as there isn't an issue with full-frame, I'll just go with the C70. You are very friendly and knowledgeable Josh. Thanks again!
How about the R7 with c100 mk ii? I love my c100, but shooting with both in 1080, should I use the R7 as A cam or B cam?
Unfortunately I don't have a C100II and rarely shoot in 1080. I would recommend you do a few comparison tests and see what you like better.
good
can we use sigma 18-35 lens with canon r7.. is that got any draw back
czcams.com/video/L4o3nXrz3_Y/video.html
How does the datarate and filesize compare? The r7 looks great and i think file are pretty small!
There are lots of different resolutions, framerates and codecs to shoot in. R7 in 4K24 IPB is 120 Mbps
C70 in 4K24 Long Gop (similar to IPB) is 160 Mbps, All-I is 410 Mbps
@@Josh_Sattin is the all I noticeably better? I'm using an r7 myself.
@@OlympiaMortgageLender You can have less artifacts when either the camera or subject is moving quickly in All-I over IPB.
There it is! I’ll stop bugging you now. Haha, who am I kidding, I’ll still bug you. Thanks Josh!
You're welcome! Hope you got your questions answered!
The more I watch those tests the more I want a C70. Would buy that camera in a heartbeat if it was shooting 6K.
I love my C70. Canon knocks it outta the park with their cinema cameras. Their small mirrorless? Not so much. Too many limitations that their competitors don't have.
When are we getting the C70 and Red Komodo comparison? Haha
Oh man! I would love to use a Komodo. It is not in the cards for me right now.
I just bought a C70 and I’m starting to regret it 😅
Have you been paid by Canon?
I have not been paid by Canon, or any camera manufacturer.
@@Josh_Sattin Then you should. You should my fine gentlemen.
Stop making a big deal if its an a-cam or b-cam. Just shoot with watcha got. Its literally a-roll thats typically interviews and b-roll to cover stuff up.