Linux Mint vs LMDE 6: Which is better for YOU? 🌿
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- čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
- 🐧 Linux Mint 21.2 and LMDE 6 are two popular Linux distributions that are often compared. In this video, we will compare the two operating systems and help you decide which one is better for you.
🖥️ Linux Mint 21.2 is based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS and features the Cinnamon desktop environment. It comes with a host of new features and improvements, including a new kernel, updated software packages, and enhanced system stability.
🐞 LMDE 6, on the other hand, is based on Debian 12 and aims to be as similar as possible to Linux Mint, but without using Ubuntu. It features the Cinnamon desktop environment and provides users with a stable and reliable operating system.
🔍 In this video, we will compare the two operating systems in terms of performance, stability, user interface, and software availability. We will also provide you with our recommendations on which one to choose based on your needs and preferences.
🎥 So, if you’re looking to switch to a new Linux distribution or just curious about the differences between Linux Mint 21.2 and LMDE 6, this video is for you!
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:18 Boot & Install
02:00 First Login
02:35 Updates
05:22 Release Cycles
05:47 Driver Manager
06:23 Themes
06:44 Neofetch
07:18 Nemo File Manager
07:35 System Settings
07:58 Extensions
08:16 Package Manager
08:45 Wallpapers
09:04 Not a rolling release
09:39 Mainline
11:35 The future
12:14 Outro
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What 2 distros would you like to see go head to head next? Also, if there is a component you'd like to see compared that I might have missed, feel free to comment below.
MX linux vs Linux Mint. I am considering these two atm. would be nice to get a comparison of features and things. thnkx
I've already decided on LMDE, but I'd like to see a comparison of the standard LMDE with Cinnamon, and LMDE with Xfce.
Incidentally, the sound level was a bit of a problem for me, on this video. It might be more consistent if you mounted the mic a bit further away from your mouth. I like the conversational tone though. Too many people do the over-energetic salesman thing, when they try to present something like this.
What about Vanilla OS against some other immutable distro?
or Kubuntu vs KDE Neon
MX Linux vs Linux mint😊
On second thoughts, LMDE Xfce vs Debian Xfce.
I read someone pointing out that if we're prepared to use LMDE, maybe we should just use full fat Debian... so I installed that, and am now naturally wondering what the difference actually is.
FWIW I lost my panel from Xfce on day one, and had to google how to get it back. I also spent two days, on and off, trying to turn off the screensaver lock screen because the settings for it don't work. It's not as stable as I'd been led to believe, IMHO.
I've also had to tell it what sound output to use several times because it keeps losing the setting, and all sound.
I run LMDE 6 on both of my desktops. for years I ran the Mint Cinnamon, the Ubuntu based one. With 21.2 the only sound I could get out of my sound card was stereo and not 5.1 It's a Soundblaster Audigy FX, but with LMDE 6 it worked fine. I had wanted to run Debian for a long time, but there were things that were only available on PPAs, and Debian doesn't allow those, in comes Flatpak on Debian and I'm all good with what I need. I prefer the LMDE 6 to the 21.2. I use Debian 12 Cinnamon on my old Dell Chromebook because LMDE 6 was too heavy for that thing. Also I just started using Nala as a frontend for Apt, that's fantastic, parallel downloads, able to choose the fastest mirrors, more info. Nala is a great frontend for Apt.
I've only heard great things about Nala. Thanks for sharing!
_I prefer the LMDE 6 to the 21.2._
What are your top 3, meaningful reasons why?
LMDE 6 has that newer 6.1 kernel version simply because it was released a few months later than Mint 21.2.
If you had gone with the slightly updated "EDGE" ISO image for Mint, it would have come with a 6.2 kernel.
It's mostly "bleeding edge hardware" differences, like for Threadripper 7000 series that most people can ignore.
Debian also has more up to date packages. It’s not just the kernel that is more up to date with Debian
Nice video, thanks for making this. I run LMDE 6 and am happy with it. I like your channel, you discuss topics that interest me.
One bit of constructive feedback, you may want to try to speak directly into the mic and set a consistent audio level based on that. The audio on this video rises and falls, probably based on head movement. The different levels are quite jarring, especially when listening on headphones.
Keep up the good work!
lol, yes this was before I got my boom and mic. I wished CZcams would allow for voice over and I could fix it. Thank you so much for watching. Much appreciated.
Have used Mint and Debian but not LMDE. Usually I've went for XFCE but had used Cinnamon years ago. I'm a bit tempted to return to Debian in some form for stability. I've done each family, Arch is very bleeding edge. I think I might just want something I might have to work to break.
Thanks for watching.
Hi @TheLinuxITGuy, do you have any recomendation on which of these a new linux user would be preferable to install/use? Thank you.
Linux Mint 21.2. Is it a newer or older machine? If newer, get the edge edition.
Related LMDE and NVIDIA...you can get the Tool from the Application Manager as well (very simple as in the Edition before) for beginners there is no need to use the Terminal, only if you want to. In first using LMDE 5 I was asked during installation process... so there are 2 ways to get the job done. Very simple and strait forward.
Nice! I really need to get a Nvidia card so I can test things like this. Thanks for the tip.
I used driver Nouveau, are perfect, NVIDIA proprietary driver are disaster.
@TheLinuxITGuy 15 years ago, i dabbled in linux in school. I tinkered with it at home and enjoyed what it could do. I went back to windows for compatibility issues with hardware, but it seems now that things have caught up for hardware demands. Which of these two distros would you recommend to get back into linux when coming from windows? I no longer dable too much on pc intracacies but would like some flexibility without pulling my hair out.
If you have a NVIDIA card, Linux Mint. If you have AMD, LMDE will be just as easy.
I started with Linux Mint Cinnamon years ago, and in spite of a few years of distrohopping I'm back on it again as my daily. Following along with all of the "Ubuntu may implode one day" conversations, I decided to try LMDE. I gave it a fair run for a few weeks, but I went back to Mint because it's just a smoother experience right now. I know Clem's goal is to achieve feature-parity between LMDE and Mint, but it's just not there yet. Once it is, on all points, I'll move over.
so i believe the mint edition is more stable than the LMDE, right?
Also, I believe the MATE version is more stable than the cinnamon?
MATE is more stable than Cinnamon, yes. I wouldn't say regular Mint is more stable than LMDE.
@@LiegeMaximo not more stable, as in reliable, in my experience. Just less nuts-and-bolts. There are a lot of convenience settings in Mint already taken care of whereas in LMDE6 one has to do quite a bit more of your own adjustments. I'm more interested in working than fiddling with the OS.
i was on normal debian long time but shifted to lmde and im happy
Despite the obvious differences you pointed out, it's a great video. I am as not as experienced as I should be to give my opinion but here it is:
I have installed both LMUE and LMDE6 in the same machine with 50GB partitions. First the U version and it worked like a charm. I had some issues with apache tomcat but finally got solved.
I also tried Debian12 with cinnamon to start, I was very satisfied with all the options you can choose before installing but I found that Debian12 has more bloatware than LMDE6 itself, with a difference of ca. 500 packages.
Cinnamon in Debian12 looks awful.
I tried LMDE in terms of stability and -as you said- thinking about the uncertain future of Ubuntu.
In LMDE I haven't solved my lid-suspending action problem, I couldn't install pgadmin 4 despite I used the very same commands and versions. I started to quit the lazyness and use psql directly, pgadmin4 is too heavy for my toaster.
I like seeing the matrix (configuring things via terminal) but sometimes I get tired of trying different approaches to solve one problem and none of them works, or trying 4 or 5 things and not knowing if it was the last solution that managed the problem or a combination (in that particular order) that came with the solution.
I am not going back to Ubuntu though, I already spent a lot of time configuring things again, but I think LMUE is a better choice for beginners.
Thanks for watching.
is it just that debian counts packages differently?
I really like the idea of comparisons, because ir helps people pick their distros/flavors. Could you perhaps do some audio checks before your next video record? I found the levels to be a bit spotty (up and down) and actually really low. I have the tab volume extension for FF, but the average person will likely skip or have a hard time. Anyway, good work. I hope you can fix the audio issues next time. Will even give you a sub.
Yes, that's the number 1 feedback item I've gotten. It'll be better in the next one. :) What distro would you like to see vs next? Thank you for being a subscriber and for the feedback.
@@TheLinuxITGuy Honestly, I've had best results with Mint and Ubuntu in modern age for server and desktop. I'm checking over your other videos now. My experience has been all over and my desktop over the years. I seen Knoppix got revived, would be interesting to see how modern it is/how well it stacts up to Ubuntu LTS and what you can get out of it. I think what most people on YT/Gamers would like to see is something that could use Game pass, but I don't think that exists and I didn't like Ubuntus new UI over old Gnome. It took me years to get over the Aero to Metro switch. lol So many people seem to think LM is the best, but is it really? I remember Slackware being really good, but now it's not even on the best OS list on Google. Hell, Mandrake isn't even on there anymore.
Good ole Knoppix. Thanks for the ideas, and I will definitely be looking at some of these 'old school' distros to see how they stack up to the modern ones. For gaming, I would definitely check out Nobara.
@@TheLinuxITGuy Oh, I just seen the OS recommendation. I am getting a new M.2 1TB very soon (currently on 500GB). I have 8TB of pitterpatter drives, but they hold a lot of my games/media. Once I get my new M.2, I was going to see about a dual boot. Will definitely try Nobara. Plan to get a pci-e x4 card for more m.2s, maybe give it exclusive to the old 500GB m.2. My server is acting as a network drive right now on Windows, too. I honestly should spend a day, port it to linux and run samba.
@@lmotaku Awesome!
HI,
Would that absence of driver manager be a huge problem to a beginner linux user?
Do you have a Nvidia GPU?
As both are based on Debian: how about LMDE6 Cinnamon vs. SpiralLinux Cinnamon ?
Thanks for watching and the suggestion.
You can update the kernel to a newer version in the update manager instead of installing mainline.
Thanks for the tip.
i like how pop os is now tbh
Good comparison video, but in the future please try to stay with your microphone. I have been constantly adjusting the volume to account for you moving closer to and further away from your microphone.
Thanks
@@TheLinuxITGuy If you use a condenser mic in a cardioid pattern, you won't have to focus so much on mic technique. You can place the mic further away and you won't have to speak directly into the front of the capsule, so you won't have so much drop-off if you move around. It'll pick up more environmental noise, though, so you'll have to make sure you're recording in a quiet environment. In either case, doing some volume leveling in post is always a good idea.
@@Luthiart thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated. Watch some of my newer stuff and see if I’m doing better. Got an AM8 fifine now and a mic boom.
Does the difference in release cycles make any practical difference if you're getting updated packages in both distros all the time anyway?
Just showing the differences between the two. LM follows Ubuntu, LMDE follows Debian. Both receive regular updates. Thanks for watching.
@@TheLinuxITGuy yes, I appreciate it. I'm just trying to learn how release cycles fit with updates in general. Is a release just a point in time of all the general updates? Or is it more than that? Thanks again for your videos.
@Eric-R The set of packages, new versions of the desktop environment, kernel, etc. more than just system updates. For example Linux Mint 21.x shipped with kernel 5.15 so we get the 5.15.x updates until the next major release.
Linux Mint Cinnemon has a 6.2 kernel you can install in the update manager , I use both the original Mint on my desktop and LMDE on one of my laptops and both are solid and reliable.
Nice! Thanks for watching.
A very good comparison, the video is well edited, my only remark is the audio, it becomes quite quiet towards the end. Otherwise, I personally still use the Ubuntu-based version of Mint.
Thanks for watching.
I wonder if all the software that runs on Mint will also work on LMDE.
Pretty much. It may just require more tinkering from the user. Example: PPAs. Thanks for watching!
I tried the Ubuntu based first and thought it was great. Tried the Debian second and quit looking at any more distros. Soon as I have some cash I can part with I am going to donate. Way back I really liked Win XP after that I did not care much for Win. This is my all time favorite starting with LMDE 4 to 6 now. I do not code or anything. This except for a couple little programs I prefer it is it for me. Has all I needed out of the box. Easy problem free install on all of my old equiptment.
Thanks for sharing and watching.
Why is updating the kernel so disadvised? I'm really curious what you're risking.
There's a high risk of breaking your system. Thanks for watching.
Don't be scared of changing your kernel, because Linux is simply a piece of your operating system (obviously, it is the most important one). If you install kernels correctly (there are a lot of tools that can help you with this, like the Update Manager in Linux Mint), they will be shown in the GRUB while your PC is booting and you can easily select the one you prefer or need. Upgrading the kernel can be required when you add a new piece of hardware (like a network card) that your current kernel doesn't support. If you feel scared, simply create a snapshot using something like Timeshift before changing your kernel and you will be fine.
Do you know a Linux Distro which has Secure Boot ( signed key , as to dual boot with Windows on the same SSD / Hard Drive ) , ( many distros I practically found that are NOT support , by Default for Secure Boot ..... ) , Wayland enabled by default , KDE = as to set power Off automatically when I fall asleep with the laptop on the belly 😀 ( GNOME - need additional to install , Gnome utilities ? ) , updates frequently to the latest packages , kernel , and has an onscreen keyboard ( my laptop keyboard not 100 % working ) ??????? The closest one for me is Fedora 39 KDE version, but I couldn't find a virtual keyboard - working , Florence , I like it , installed , BUT , error, not working. Also I couldn't use Grub Customizer . CPU-Power GUI .....
Thanks for watching! Have you tried openSUSE Tumbleweed?
Sir, can u please make a vid/tutorial for lmde6 btrfs install ?
Sure. Thanks for watching.
After years of distro hopping I eventually settled on Ubuntu because I wanted stability and the deb format is far more widely available, especially for apps not in the repo e.g. 1Paasword, Vivaldi, printer drivers etc
For a while I put up with Snaps but eventually got tired of slow load times and crypt messages about Snaps needing an update but within x days.
I thought, no problem this is Linux, I'll just uninstall Snaps altogether and it will be fine. So I uninstalled the Snap apps, and what I thought was all the components that make it work, rebooted and tried sudo apt install firefox in a terminal.
Did I get Firefox? No. It proceeded to reinstall all the components i uninstalled and installed Firefox snap again! 😡 Aaaargh!
Proceeded to make a backup of my stuff, download Mint and wiped out Ubuntu.
That was great for a few months, but as soon as they announced Linux Mint Debian Edition 6, I immediately nuked and paved with Linux Mint Debian Edition.
I don't want Ubuntu anywhere NEAR my system. I'm done with them.
What a breathe of fresh air Mint is, both versions, but with Linux Mint Debian Edition I know I'm 100% community and Big Corp free. This is how a pc should work. User freedom, user choice.
Ubuntu should have an option in settings to 1-click remove snapd and all snaps if the user wishes, and Firefox should be in the regular repo as well.
100% agree. Thanks for commenting and watching.
The only place where I still use Ubuntu, is on my servers. At least there I don't need to (directly) deal with the Snap nonsense.
As a South African, it is sad, because Ubuntu is a Zulu word that is part of our culture. Snap is against the open source and Ubuntu spirit.
any distro recommendations for gaming (nvidia) and development?
Thanks for watching.
Gaming = Nobara
Dev = nixOS
@@TheLinuxITGuy how about one for both? lol
I gamed on nixOS this weekend. You may want to wait on my nixOS deep dive video for that one if you aren’t familiar with how nix works.
Is there a difference between debian 12 with cinnamon desktop enviroment and lmde 6?
Linux Mint will have more ease of use tools to where Debian 12 will be more minimal. Thanks for watching!
Also, LMDE will update Cinnamon Desktop regularly, Debian 12 is stuck on an older version there. Otherwise, it's based on Debian stable. So if you want Debian stable with an up-to-date Cinnamon, I'd recommend LMDE. If you want to switch to Debian testing to go semi-rolling, I think Debian is the better choice.
nice video. audio is kinda getting wobbly sometimes
Working on getting Davinchi Resolve working which should help with that. Thanks for the feedback.
@@TheLinuxITGuy When you get Davinci Resolve to work on Linux, you should definitely make a video on it!
@@Josh-dk1ex I have. It’s part of the Rocky Linux ULTIMATE install guide. You can skip to the DaVinci section in the timestamp.
LMDE 6 doesn't work for me, but I found a better solution, installed the Debian standard + lxqt, I'm very happy with the performance and even happier with the Linux community.
Nice! Glad you found what works for you. Thanks for watching.
I've tried Linux Mint Cinnamon before and its fine but I still felt something is missing. I tried several others next: Fedora, Ubuntu, Garuda, etc. and was finally able to leave Windows using Manjaro KDE. I keep breaking Manjaro though and switched to MX Linux KDE which is based on Debian and couldn't be happier! 😊
I used to like bleeding edge but nowadays I prefer stability which Debian is known for. There is also the option of flatpaks if you need a certain version of a program. For example, I use the flatpak version of Handbrake 'coz it has a feature I use that the one from the official Debian repo that is older doesn't have.
Nice! Thanks for watching.
I used Mint for about a decade but recently started running Arch on the side specifically because Steam proton games run better and with less effort.
Thanks for watching.
Nobara is pretty amazing (Fedora ish). I haven't looked back after trying it. the Tweaks are amazing.
I use windows just because linux never works right.
1. Why do I have to reinstall OS in between releases?
2. Even the rolling release distros are a mess. They just don't work right (may be that's why many distros chose stable release model) and update progress always stops somewhere due to errors.
You can upgrade. Thanks for watching.
@@TheLinuxITGuy As if I haven't done it already?
I have no idea. I'm going off the comment "Why do I have to reinstall OS in between releases?" Just saying, you don't.
@@sinancetinkaya Let me help you. You don't have to reinstall the OS for each new release. Unlike Windows, unix-like GNU-licensed systems are extremely customizable in terms of software. They are not one homogeneous piece of cake.
So if a specific distribution of a Linux-based system releases a new stable version, this is what changes:
a) A new kernel gets implemented
b) The standard software (including libraries and etc.) gets updated or changed.
Basically, all you need to do is install the new kernel and run an automatic software update afterwards. In case you're not building a system from scratch, your package manager will handle both of these things. This is how you "update" your system. You don't have to install the new iso image.
I know that this specific aspect about GNU/Unix-like systems can be a bit confusing upon switching from a proprietary system. Especially the stable release distros may make you believe that, in order to update to a newer release, you have to install the whole new iso image. That confused me as well in the beginning.
keep the sound the same... I guess you got farther away from the mic at times and it was hard to hear...
Yea, sorry about that. I did get it fixed in my more recent videos. Thanks for the feedback.
I moved to LMDE when Ubuntu changed from flatpack.
Nice choice. Thanks for watching.
In my opinion it makes no sense to use a GNU/Linux distro like Mint which relies on another distro like Ubuntu which in turn relies on Debian, you might as well use the version of Mint which relies directly on Debian (LMDE). 😉
Thanks for watching.
I want to say that there is an error in the description. Linux Mint 21.2 is based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, but the description says 20.04 LTS.
Nice catch! Updated and thank you.
LMDE is buggy on my GP Pavillion, the keyboard dosnt work properly. and if you close the lid and reopen it you might have to force reboot to get the keyboard back. I liked it, but not on my HP. I was forced back to Linux Mint Ubuntu fork. Im happy, I wil get a Dell Inspiron for LMDE.
Thanks for watching! Glad you found the distros that worked best for your machines.
that suspend feature is going to work rarely on some hardwares. same was for me too, i have a amd cpu and gpu. for me to make it work, i had to install amdgpu-install and then it started working.
“It’s the same picture…” 😂
Thanks for watching!
Too bad Linux Mint wins for the normal user, because LMDE6 does not understand multiple GPUs. If you have an integrated GPU in addition to a dedicated one, LMDE is not for you, because you'll have to go deleting some libraries and doing hacky fixes to get your Nvidia card recognised at all. Until LMDE fixes that, I'll stick with the superior Linux Mint 21.2
Yep. Thanks for watching.
great tip, thank you!
LMDE for ure... I avoid Canonical as it was a skunk with angry management issues.
Idk why would anyone choose lmde over mint. Mint has all the positive points of Ubuntu without snaps and Ubuntu itself is based on debian. So it is mindless to choose lmde over mint.
Thanks for watching!
It also has all the negative points of Ubuntu though, like less reliable updates, heavy patching sometimes going wrong etc.
And Ubuntu is based on a testing branch of Debian, not stable one.
@user-ps5up3og2h Debian stable is essentially Debian Freezed, which receives only minor security patches and for major updates relies on LTS releases. And for Ubuntu to this day, not a single update has messed my computer. Yes, Ubuntu is based on the testing branch of Debian, but it is way more robust and bug-free than Debian.
@@solaire_of_the_east
> Debian stable is essentially Debian Freezed, which receives only minor security patches and for major updates relies on LTS releases
Ubuntu LTS is supposed to have literally the same release model: no major feature updates, only bugfixes and security patches. The difference is, Debian developers are way more qualified.
> And for Ubuntu to this day, not a single update has messed my computer
Lucky you. We had libpam ABI change which broke stuff like cron and ssh (!) in a minor update, NSS breakage in glibc update (!!!), kernel update regressions like not being able to boot at all due to chipset driver changes, and so on. I bet you haven't used Ubuntu long enough.
> Yes, Ubuntu is based on the testing branch of Debian, but it is way more robust and bug-free than Debian.
See above.
On top of that, Ubuntu LTS is released just in the middle of Debian release cycle, and only really supports main repo section, while universe forever stays in a "Debian 1 year before release" state. And universe is where most of the available software is - main is tiny in comparison.
Then, Ubuntu devs often heavily patch software, and sometimes just break it. For example, in Ubuntu 22.04 enabling the 'Don't lock screen on suspend' option leads to 1 minute delay before system goes to sleep, because Ubuntu patches messed up program logic in GNOME Shell.
I can go on and on - the stream of Ubuntu-specific issues is infinite.
Don't get me wrong - Ubuntu is fine if you want more out-of-the-box experience. But claiming that it is more robust and bug-free than Debian itself is just ridiculous.
snap violated the code and unbutu lied about not changing apt ,,,, i cant trust them, also mint is creating lmde in case cononical gets any worse ,,, if its gona go im outie
they look exactly the same
Are you in a basement? Do you have a neck beard?
Hey! It's a finished basement at least. No to the neck beard. Although, I was an Andrew Luck fan before he decided to retire. 😅
@@TheLinuxITGuy Aha, nice bro!
Lmde is lagging
Depending on your system specs, you may want to give Linux Mint XFCE edition a try.
Fedora is better.
Thanks for watching.
@@TheLinuxITGuy
If you ask 10 Linux enthusiasts what the best distro is, you will get 12 answers... 😉
WHY 😡