Dowsing (Divining Rods, Pendulums, Radiesthesia, Rhabdomancy) - Jimmy Akin's Mysterious World
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- The practice of dowsing has been used for hundreds of years, at least, to find water, gold, oil, and more. Jimmy Akin and Dom Bettinelli talk to an expert on dowsing to ask what it is, what we know about it, and how it works.
mysterious.fm/246
Further Resources:
• Christopher Bird’s book The Divining Hand: The 500-Year Old Mystery of Dowsing: amzn.to/3RWYnTd
• Etzel Cardenas’s book Parapsychology: A 21st Century Handbook (contains chapter “Applied Psi” co-authored by Paul Smith): amzn.to/40LJRC1
• Kathe Bachler’s book Earth Radiation: amzn.to/3HYgNhP
• Online at Archive.org: archive.org/de...
• Alexis Mermet’s book Principles and Practice of Radiesthesia (pdf): iapsop.com/ssoc...
• Ideomotor Effect: en.wikipedia.o...
• Michael Faraday’s ideomotor experiment: • Michael Faraday's supe...
• American Society of Dowsers: dowsers.org/
• Paul’s DVD course at LearnDowsing.com: learndowsing.com/
90% of the world's supply of fresh water lies underground. I had an Australian Uncle who had a huge farm. He was so skilled at finding water for his animals that he dowsed over a map of his land. He called it 'distance dowsing'. He told me dowsing (for water, in his case) was both a physical and a psychological phenomenon, tapping into energy fields. Like all crafts, it takes practice, practice and practice.
Classic radionic expert!
Might be detecting other things too. In Jesse Romero's book The Devil in the City of Angels he mentioned Father Candido Amantini, a Passionist priest and Rome's cheif exocist for more than thirty years, asked a demon during an excircism, "How many are you?" The demon responded, "We are so many that, if we were visible, we were darken the sun."
When I worked for the Utility Company, from time to time we would be concerned about the location of a water line before we would dig. There were guys who could take two short pieces of copper wire used to set up grounding on the poles or service. They would put the ends of the bent wires in a couple drink bottles, to allow the wires to move freely without being interfered with by gripping the wires in each hand. We could hold the bottles in each hand over the area and watch for the wires to turn indicating that the water line was under us.
Good story brother. Thank you.
I’m 29 and a plumber I haven’t listened yet. But we do still use this to find things underground
It does work to find underground water doesn't it.
@@stevezettle3212it can be used to find electrical wire as well
@@stevezettle3212 it works for u deerhound waterlines and breaks in pipes
I pray for the repose soul for Bishop O'Connell 🙏
Jesus please protect our catholic priests and Pope Francis
Back in '93, my grandmother and I used a Y-shaped willow branch to find water. We did! We had to go down about 60 feet.
Everyone in my family tried it, but only Grandma and I could do it. My dad called us the wacky water witches. 😊
Great show! Growing up, I didn’t know some people doubted dowsing because I watched my father matter-of-factly using his L-rods to find pipes. To him, they were just another tool in his toolbox. Looking forward to Part 2 and the faith perspective.
I've never heard Jimmy laugh that hard or smile that big. That was great 😎. Thanks, Major
Love the corn cob pipe. Just like one of mine.
Remember, the USMC used dowsing in Vietnam to find the tunnels. And they had 90% plus success rate.
I have tried both remote viewing and dowsing, and I am able to do both. I made copper dowsing rods to find car keys/fob that I had dropped into several feet of snow, somewhere between the driveway and house. It did work, even though I had never tried dowsing before.
My grandfather was known for his dowsing ability. When someone was having trouble finding water for their well. They would call him.
I believe that Joseph Smith, Jr., before starting the LDS movement, did something like dowsing for buried treasure: treasure-hunting was popular then where he lived and the hunters would hire him.
Ya people always give crrap about that story. It’s like why didn’t he find any treasure. There’s one story where they found a box and then it moved.
It’s like if there’s more in reality then our eyes can see which A lot of physics people on lectures say we only perceive a small portion of reality it’s possible there’s more that exists. The experiment when the electron or particle where it behaves one way and changes totally when observed implies consciousness observation does affect reality. It sort of makes me wonder hmm maybe curses or sealings can exist or some form of power over an object.
The story in kanab Utah where they knew a cave existed is interesting. The endangered species act prevented a lake or pond from being drained so divers were sent in. After several tries they all quite saying they couldn’t go in. Then a driller drilled a hole on top and the guy died shortly afterwards. It’s like maybe a group of people killed him and messed with the divers or there’s some phenomena stopping entrance to the cavern.
Huge fan here! Thanks Jimmy 😎❤
I knew a person who cared for an old but still open Cemetery. Over the years, the map of the cemetery was lost. The person talked to a funeral home, and they told him to use dowsing. It worked. He could tell if a particular site had remains or not.
Look forward to the new episodes every friday!
I used a divining mouse to find this episode.
Nazrin!!???
Excellent host, guest and interview. Well done on providing informative links in the description section. As stated in the video, do notice that one can dowse to answer questions or find hidden objects without rods or a device of any kind. Because the signal and dowsing movements are actually coming from your own physical body. The device is just an indicator or meter that makes the signal more obvious to observe. That fact takes a lot of the "spooky occult" factor out of the equation. Because anytime you simply ask yourself a question the phenomena is occurring within your own body even if you are not paying attention to it to notice it. It is happening most of the time along with your usual, normal and daily thoughts.
For 2 years straight, I would dowse questions about a new patient coming into my medical practice about ten minutes before their appointment and my actually meeting them. I would dowse about the physical problem they will report and present to me when I shortly meet them in the future once we are actually speaking with one another in my exam room. Accuracy was over 80%.
the intro animation is great Jimmy!
My speculation, with regards to the government censors seemingly random choices, is to further confuse anyone trying to read between the lines of the document about which censored information is important.
Many years ago I was in college taking Graphic Arts in Woodstock New Brunswick. A close friend of mine and I were asked to help a friend of ours. Some guys had crashed in her home. She did not want them there and she asked us to help.
When we showed up one of the young men came at me and I went to push him away. But I did not actually touch him. I was in the process of pushing, and both my hands were about and inch away from his chest. Then he went flying backwards around 6 feet. His feet were probably about 3 inches off the ground as he flew back the first 3 feet, before he landed and slid the rest of the way hard against the kitchen counter.
Both my friend Wayne and I looked at each other in a sense of wonder. The man who was pushed back against the kitchen counter looked at me in shock and fear. The three of them willingly left the house not long after that.
This was in Woodstock, New Brunswick, Canada.
Your (plural) guardian 😇 😇 😇 were sure busy that day. Guardian angel power. Praise God
I had the same experience of someone pushing me with energy and not using their hands. Wasn't quite as dramatic, I did not fly off the ground or even loose my balance to fall, but I definitely felt them push me away. Like if you had two magnets of same poles, how the other gets shoved aside.
@@madamxilant17 I just found the experience so odd. I rememer looking back at Wayne and we were both bemused. Wayne didn't at the time I never actually touched the man. The look on the young man's face was one of complete shock. I this would have been December 95 apartment not far from J.R.'s in Woodstock, N. B.
@@craigaxle1096 Amen. Something very differet happened that night. It was that year I purchased her 4 cllinder mustang. I was datng Kathy McKee around that time. I am pretty sure she lives in the United States now.
@@dalelerette206 That REALLY is a wild story and seriously believe it happened. My experience was so weird too. And who do you tell? At the time, I wanted to say to the individual, did you just push me?...but there was a lot of conversation happening. I wish there were more people open to talking about this to discover all the how, what, whys and if it can be recreated on command. Kinetic energy is my best guess.
Maybe try bending a spoon...not joking!
Thanks 🙏....fantastic interview...so informative 👍🌻
Sorry, it definitely looked like you’re hand or fingers were moving. So are saying you weren’t consciously telling your hand or fingers to move but they did move (this is visible on video) and this movement of hand or fingers was subconsciously triggered because you were talking about your hand and fingers causing movement to the pendulum?
Yes. My hand/fingers *were* moving, but I was not *consciously* telling them to do so. That's what the ideomotor effect is.
Thank you for the clarification. Again, as with previous episodes, nice job. I’m an avid viewer of JAMW. Looking forward to part two of this topic.
Not saying it’s always demons but definitely occult practice. Even the language this person used about reaching out to the universe at one point is definitely looking to the creation and not the creator. Hopefully in the next episode this comes out or this could be scandalous causing people to sin because they think it’s ok.
I see what you are saying. But he is thinking along the lines of one who reaches out for an apple is the same as one reaching with consciousness to grab something it’s not really any different than a hand. Just practice
Interesting topic. Gonna have to say after watching I'm definitely a skeptic of this practice.
Given that I live in a state where one is never more than 6 miles away from a known body of water, if it turns out that dowsing isn't contrary to the faith, I bet I could become a great water dowser, no matter what my natural abilities in it are.
Ya eastern states with water sure you can say you can dig a well anywhere.
The point is though in desert states dowsing to hit water happens. Lots of stories and testimonies about it exists. People drill and end up drilling thousands of feet and not hit water. The one story the dowser helped find water and then is like I’m also picking up a fault line so that’s why you’d have to drill thousands of more feet a half a mile away cause of the fault. In a valley buried with hundreds of feet of dirt a century ago it’s like hmm fault lines weren’t as mapped out as today. Or someone finding oil dowsing. It’s like hmm if you can dig an oil well anywhere everyone would be rich haha.
Now take thin copper rods bent at a 90 degree angle, about the same thickness as a wire coat hanger, grip one end in each palm, rest your thumbs on the rod to steady them, and see if your palms can turn the wire to make them move and cross over each other.
Because I don;t have muscles in my palms that can do that, but have felt them turn against the friction of the skin of my palms when over water. And I was shocked when they moved, meaning I was that surprised to feel them twisting in my hand.
The first time I ever even heard about this was from that movie "the water diviner" sent me down a rabbit hole because I had to look up what that job was
I remember my father bringing in a person to dowse to dig a well👍
The only issue with the demonstration is how do we really know you arent consciously moving your hand? It seems a very thin distinction.
I agree from experience and observation that the required motions are indeed very subtle due to harmonics.
I think us having an intuition for that makes it hard to say what you are doing intentionally vs unintentionally.
I can tell you that it works to find water when drilling wells. Have personal experience with the practice after the scientific approach failed repeatedly. Hit on the first and only try. Could have been luck of course but it worked when nothing else did.
I guess you don't know for sure. However, even if someone does intentionally move their hand, I do know from personal experience that a pendulum can move without intentional hand movements. Many years ago I did it. The first few times I tried and it didn't move. One day while I was on a phone call I picked it up and tried it without much effort or focus or expectation and being somewhat distracted. That's the first time it worked. I figured out that I had been trying to hard to hold very still and putting too much effort into making sure it wasn't me, that is why it wasn't working. When I relaxed and let it move, it did. From then on it was super easy. Not always accurate but very easy to use.
YOU KNOW U COULD ALWAYS TRY IT YOURSELF AND PROVE IT WRONG
Over 20,000 twenty-foot-equivalent units (TEU) of capacity is the largest class of container ship and the biggest are around 24,000. Lots of containers are forty-foot so I guess are two TEUs each? So over 10,000 forty-foot containers is possible on the biggest ships, I think. TEU seems to be an imprecise measure…
dowsing! i honestly believe it, hopefully you don't expose it too hard in this episode haha
We'll discuss the scientific evidence regarding dowsing in next week's episode. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
And I wasn’t !
In the 80s when I was in high school, I had a friend that was into the Ouija board and I always thought it was a gimmick, but we would drink and go to his house and try it a few times and I never really knew what was happening. I thought he was sliding it around to mess with me. One time though convinced me, without a doubt, that something really strange was happening. We both had just our fingertips on the planchette. We were asking questions and then at one point when it was moving around it fell off the board and it attempted to get back on the Ouija board with such force that it moved the board slightly and dragged along the edge. I pretty much freaked out as it was a life changer and after that point believed there was something to it beyond just our subconscious mind and fingertip muscle motion. To this day I have no idea what happened!
Field Dowsing (in Austrian-German: "Wünschelruten gehen" ) seems interesting. Also a question arises: why offer a course on this stuff and not "dowse" the lottery-numbers on your own... Maybe it's not how it works?
I know that dowsing lottery numbers is sometimes used as a practice assignment in dowsing classes.
@@JimmyAkin Tried it on my own... lets see ;) . This stuff is called "etwas auspendeln" in German. Regarding faith perspective, I also read on the german wikipedia that Martin Luther said some things about dowsing, which I find pretty amusing.
I am going to guess that in the faith and reason perspective you have concluded that it's okay and not dangerous to use a pendulum. Otherwise you would not have demonstrated it's use at the begining of the episode. I don't think you would find it suprising to reach that conclusion though, or even to reach the oposite conclusion. There must be something more specific you found out about dowsing and Church teaching or maybe church history. We know that the apostles "cast lots" to discern who would replace Judas and we know the O.T. story of the fleece being set out to obtain a sign. Neither of these things would be suprising to you either. So it must be more than that. I will be very interested in watching the follow up. It's a particularly interesting topic to me because before I returned to The Church in 2009, I had many years of pagan practices that I threw out when I returned to the Church. I did use a pendulum along with tarot when I worked for a pychic line from about 1996 to 1998 or early 1999. I still did tarot and other types of reading occasionally after that, just not professionally. I threw it all out, along with astrology books, witchcraft books, and a large collection of other things. I have wondered if the pendulum is okay, for the reason that it is access of the sub concious and not invoking some diety. I have even wondered about using a rosary in place of a pendulum, would that be sacrelgious?
It is occultism.
I remember reading about it in one of the interviews with an exorcist.
Its a serious business.
Why not just pray to God and let the Holy Spirit tell or guide you? No devices or repetition of asking questions in every square. Jesus did not give dowsing procedures. Let your requests be known unto God. Only He is the revealer of secrets. Daniel said that.
Gonna be a good 'un!
Instead of using rods, I just ask St Anthony….
All I can think of right now is the movie, "The Men who Stare at Goats"
1:20 lol now that’s cute
I used to use dowsing rods to speak to spirits before I came to my senses. Oh they worked all right. The devil will do whatever you ask of him and put on a great show... until it's time to pay the bill.
Does the Catholic Church say whether its moral or not to dowse for water?
As we discuss in the episode, the Church does not have a problem with even priests serving as dowsers in scientific research. It thus has no restriction on laity using dowsing in field applications like finding water. Whether dowsing really works is a question that must be settled by science, but it is not contrary to the Faith to explore this issue or use dowsing if it turns out that it works.
Actually, the discussion of the Church's position on dowsing is in the *next* episode--265. You can check that out for more information. God bless you!
You were moving your hand a lot tbh.
Yes, but not consciously. That's the point I was illustrating. ☺
i wonder if the fbi does use remote viewing to help find kidnapped people
The FBI has used remote viewers. See Episode 264 (Mysterious.fm/264)
Looks like the cave man is holding an atl atl to me.
Exorcists clearly tell us to stay away from Dowsing.
Dowsing and asking questions ? Oh boy.
Sounds like just an alternative to Ouija board...no thx.
BTW. Dowsing-Radiesthesia belongs to a very dark branch called...occultism. :)
Im surprised Jimmy talks about it in such a happy manner. You should stay away from it...and as far as you can.
It has nothing to do with science but it has a lot to do with the dark realm.
Well, Jimmy usually tells us about his topics from the faith perspective, so if there are spiritual risks involved, I am sure he will point those out.
Remember, the word "occult" has the same root as occluded, which just means hidden. Thomas Acquinas has written on things of the occult back when this word had a neutral connotation. Today, it seems to be synonymous with black magic. I don't think it's fair to insinuate that Jimmy is glorifying something that is from black magic.
The issue with any tool is when we make an idol of it, and divination is an example of that. Is dowsing the same as a diving rod, where there are spiritual sources other than God making the rods do supernatural things? Jimmy has been pretty clear that truth is revealed to us through reason or supernaturally from God - i.e. Divine Revelation. If dowsing has any supernatural power, the only legitimate source to consider is that from God.
God can do anything He wants. Oral history has indicated that dowsing helped save lives by finding water for people in need. Even if they don't understand our Lord, who provides all good things, God works all things for the good of those who love Him, so why can't He do this for these people?
@@enshala6401 Speak to any priest if you dont believe me. The Bible addresses practices such as dowsing in Hosea 4:12: “My people consult a wooden idol, and a diviner’s rod speaks to them. A spirit of prostitution leads them astray; they are unfaithful to their God.” Your Authority should be Church, not Jimmy Akin :)
@temp911LukeⓂ️ le sigh. Ofc the Church is my authority. Why are you being such a jerk toward me? Bad cuz trad?
Let's wait and see what Jimmy says in next week's podcast. Also, I think that it's fair to suggest we ask a priest about it. My current thought on it is that perhaps it depends on how and why it is used. I'm not going to take up such practices (again) lightly though. If there's any possibility that it offends God and invites evil, it's best to avoid it.
@April Blake yeah, I think consulting a priest who is a subject matter expert is a good idea - that way, he can address the issue with both faith and reason.
I am not thrilled with someone insinuating that Jimmy courts black magic with a lack of gravity, as if he is some sort of idiot. He puts a lot of work into these projects, and someone making snap judgments from the comfort of an anonymous keyboard is something Jimmy doesn't deserve. Poisoning the well is not only intellectually dishonest, it is tantamount to bearing false witness. Basically, that OP is the antithesis of the academic and spiritual work ethic that Jimmy stands for.