Professional Engineer plays a Builder Simulator...
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- It's the circle of construction, engineers hate architects, builders hate engineers and architects hate builders? Anyway as a professional civil engineer for 10 years I worked with a lot of builders, and the one thing I learned in that time is that they hate us- and we probably also give them some stick that isn't justified too... So, when Builder Simulator released a demo for Steam NextFest, it seemed like something I should play to try and learn why builders hate engineers so much and perhaps learn a new respect for my builder companions...
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About Builder Simulator:
Builder Simulator is a game for those, whose biggest dream always was to construct your own house from scratch. Prepare your plan, buy needed materials, and build a perfect residence brick by brick. Will it be an easy task? At first, yes! After all, you’re just a rookie in this serious building industry. A specially made tutorial will guide you step by step through the twists and turns of construction work. However, the more experience you get, the more demanding the challenges become.
Design
Every big construction project starts with a pencil and a piece of paper. And so, it is in the Builder Simulator. You’ll start your work by designing a house on a drawing board. Lines, curves, squares - the whole layout is up to your taste. The only thing that can hold you back is your own imagination. So use this head of yours and draw the most excellent building of it all! And if you don't have an idea for a design, you can always choose one of the projects we have prepared.
Build
Have you finished your little design? Good! Now it’s time to put it into practice. Grab a bunch of bricks, take some cement, roll up your sleeves, and build, construct, create! Are you afraid it’ll be boring? No, no, no. Nothing like that! You’ll dig the foundation, erect walls, insert windows or doors, and many more. It will not only be exciting, but above all, it will be fun!
Finish
You’re very proud of those straight walls and perfect roof… but it’s not over! It’s time to finish this pretty, little house. How? Of course, by polishing its exterior! It’s like putting makeup on a perfectly sculpted face. You can finish the elevation, do the floor or paint walls. Do everything you can to make this house splendid!
Community Builder
Leaving this creation to rot on your computer would be such a waste, right? That’s why we prepare something special for all our precious players - the Community Builder! This is a place where you can share your projects. You can also build a house based on someone else’s project. Show your creations, admire works of people from all over the world and meet other building freaks! Just share your passion and most importantly…
…HAVE FUN!
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I went to school for engineering. Took a summer internship doing construction. Gained a ton of respect from the trade guys for doing that. Even if I didn't end up doing engineering for that specific field, they were like "At least we'll know there's one engineer out there who actually understands what it's like to have to implement their designs"
Im pretty sure, It's the architects that do the designing, and the civil engineers and builders who do the work? correct me if Im wrong
@@SunlightonMoon just like what matt said in the video: architects usually come up with the overall design for the client, the engineers translate that design to something that can actually be built and for it to be structurally sound and safe. so in a way, engineers still have a say in the design process. so prolly in the eyes of a builder, the engineer just as likely had 'designed' the structure as the architect
@@SunlightonMoon Architects will do the design, how they want it to look, etc. Engineers have to figure out how to make the design work, and also have to do things like wiring design, fire alarms, etc. Then the builders/contractors have to actually put it all together.
@@seanlouisoliveros414 yes, it's the engineer who tells us exactly what materials to use and how to assemble them, so the guys building it don't really have any interaction with the architect and their crayons, unless it's a matter of cosmetics.
One company I worked for, we hired a new sheet metal company to do the hvac, roof, etc, and the guy was an hvac engineer who realized that he needed to understand the real world, and so he started his company to get a few years of practical experience, so he could be a better engineer when he felt he was ready to switch back.
The first job we worked with him on was a school, and it was fun hearing him cuss out the stupid engineers who had designed it, as he discovered why text book designs don't work well in real life!
He was good at the work, so we had him back on a lot of future jobs, and I suspect that he became a great engineer that the builders would appreciate!
You getting stuck in the roof is about the most engineer thing possible. They can design the most complex of things, but somehow find themselves in a predicament on the job site.
Accurate for construction, too. Working yourself into a corner is way too common.
To his credit, he was only laying the roof frame and was expecting to be able to step right out of it. He wasn't expecting the game to lay down the panels for him, trapping him in in the process
Infra intensifies
very true. seen it multiple times on jobs
I do ground remediation and stabilisation, and often demo with removing foundations/old piles, the engineer comes along to survey it, and shoot the old piles, and I just watch in disbelief of how they decide they’re getting around the area
Long long ago; the trades lived in harmony; the builders, the joiners, the engineers and the plumbers. Then suddenly the architects attacked!
🤣
Engineers get annoyed by Architects because they have to make "pretty" and unusal buildings actually work in the real world without falling down.
Buildes get annoyed by Engineers because they often haven't thought about the logistics of actually putting something together.
When I worked as a rebar detailer there were several times where we had to call our customer (the builder), and they in turn had to get confirmation for us to change something. Several times I was detailing some concrete columns, and because of the size of the rebar, and the configuration specified, it left almost no room for concrete. So they either would need to change the reinforcement, or the size of the column. Real pain when you the builder is screaming at you saying they need a rebar delivery the next day.
And then Engineers try building themself and literally trap themself inside the roof.
@@furiousbeardsley the more I read the more I realize how different we do everything around here. I can’t imagine ordering rebars when we can do it ourselves in a day for the whole house to the size we need.
@@Shuizid To be fair, roofing doesn't usually materialize the moment the last support beam is put in place.
And the owners get annoyed at everyone because they didn't put fucking enough electrical sockets.
My takeaway from this vid: every building in infra was made by architects
As an architect I will not deny anything
EEEWWW architecture
@@newyorkcentralsystemgames hahaha
@@eliaschadid8842 im so sorry
Ya bad architects at that
I am in an builder internship at the moment and yes you can drill in hollow blocks but only from the side if you do it from the top the block will break
It's odd, I've seen several houses being built on CZcams videos, and some irl to, and basic non in my area use bricks, or these (11:09) metal things. they all use ply wood, wood beams, and generally look like they don't use real brick
@@jwalster9412 i think it depends on the climate where you build the house, houses in america are not built the same way as in europe and so on.
@@jwalster9412 you live in america, probably. In other parts of the world, reinfoced concrete and bricks are the way
@j Walster Not sure where you live, but the house in this game looked very typical of what you'd see in the UK - all the walls in my house, including the internal walls are made from brick - but lots of houses have the partition walls like at that part too, and I believe like RCE said the forms will generally be made out of wood 🤔. I think colder climates generally have lots of brick houses 😅
@@marcogenovesi8570 Canada is just cheap. The houses cost more than anything else, but they are build of the cheapest every thing.
I’m a custom home builder and contractor, and I gotta say: I have no issue with engineers. It’s that engineer stamp of approval that saves our ass from an architects dumb ass ideas. Keep the good fight engineer!!
Yeah liability on someone else is a huge relief
Never had engineering drawings that were way off scale or just incorrect? Out of my 5 times working with engineers 3 were way off.
"Lazy builders want their concrete made automatically" - says the man whose favorite gaming tool is the one that automatically puts down wood along a line in Polybridge 2... ^^;
The "plasticie material" is called MetSec. It's used on pretty much every building site except from residential properties, with exception to loft conversions, and it's pretty robust stuff. Plaster board screws straight to it and it has a perfect gap for insulation material 👍
16:11 That good sir looks suspiciously like a ball
16:22 Hmmmm...
16:39 Yup, most efficient building shape!
Just wouldn't be a Civil Engineer video without one
The fact that the first home was dug out for embedment only is very triggering for me. What about your flood protecion? Those beams were what, 10 to 12 inches? You need at least a depth of 26 inches. I am glad you at least used rebar and not tendons.
Stand semi-proud my fellow, im inspecting your work through and through.
I personally was disturbed by the lack of a secondary exit. No way would that pass inspection.
@@johnforrestboone1 it was a pretty small home, i use the IRC code where im at and "technically" a home that small wouldnt really require a secondary exit so long as each room has an openable egress window of at least 5 sqft on the first floor.
I'd guess that flood protection requirements would differ by location.
It does, in the gulf coast region, we require a minimum 10" slab exposure above grade depending on the code you build with, in this case IRC. 10" wont save you from an actual flood but its more to protect against the downward flow of water.
@@giovanniflorencia7262 In Maine it has to be below the frost line to prevent meltwater flooding.
16:06 looks suspiciously architect-ish, but since we're designing the strongest shaped building I'll let it slide.
Watching this channel as an architects is hella funny, and i often agree on what is "architect" and what is "engineer" haha. Tons of respect for engineers anyway, in my experience the most incredible professionists i met are engineers that can think like architects or the other way around
I love how he said "the devs will get me out" when there was the position reset button right there
That's probably what they told him to push. I am usually blind to buttons like that when I've never used them before as well.
@@rpgaholic8202 I didn't see it and would have used the sledge
Thanks, Matt! I was quite worried, but I've definitely learned enough from this video to build that puppy orphanage in Belfast! Remember, your teachings have saved four and a half golden retrievers!
Update: The orphanage collapsed. I don't know what went wrong, but four and a half golden retrievers have gone to puppy heaven.
The builder blames it on the engineer, the engineer blames it on the architect, the architect blames it on the customer. Shit rolls up and down hill in the construction industry.
Nah
Both the engineer and architect blame it on the builders. Afterall, its impossible for their projects to be wrong, clearly was the uneducated builders who messed up
@@VJK102 "uneducated" is exactly what they are thinking in thier head. Best part is if you get them to do a site visit and show them the undeniable issue they say "Huh I see what you are talking about, well just do it like the detail shows in the prints". 🙃🙃
@@codycopeland7527 yup
@@codycopeland7527 heard from a guy who worked as a chief builder that he once saw a in construction building that was clearly out of square, like, by half a meter, and when he told the engineer she flipped out saying it was right and following the blueprint. After a lot of convincing she finally ordered a check with a plumb bob. As I said, the building was off by half a meter. Said engineer still refused to admit she was wrong.
Working on a very old very high stone building in the Yorkshire Dales. We were creating stairs running up the inside of a broad square stairwell/atrium with five separate landings to catch all the weird and wonderful different floor levels in what was mostly a three story building. The building had been extended in various directions at various times meaning that nothing was level with anything else. We sacked three architects on that job as they variously designed staircases which failed to match with the passages leading off, or landings which were dangerously small, and in one case passed into the roof space so that there was a purlin right across the stairs roughly two feet above a stair. We (A team of three joiners including myself) ended up designing and building the staircase ourselves. It was certainly a head scratcher, but the oak staircase looked stunning by the time time we were done, and wasn't lethal.
16:02 I know this game's gonna be good when it includes literally a CAD software into it.
11:10 I am an Engineer too and That ain't plastic sir! you can either build those kind of walls with wooden or aluminum profiles. These are used a lot here in the Netherlands.
As a roofer i was sweeting from fear and laughing at the same time when i saw this construction on top of this building xd
3:47 because is not good for the machine if you turn it on with a load inside
That's... err, *not* what she said?
As soon as I saw the game let RCE build his own house, The strongest shape was an almost instantaneous assumption
Same...."uh oh........" and seconds later....."Yep and there it is"
This channel is interesting because my grandpa who was a USFS worker for 40 years learned a lot about this sort of stuff from experience Blading roads, dozing, etc.
Would LOVE to see a story time type video about his career adventures/interactions with the despicable architects
i would like to see him engineer a small scalle bridge irl
"that look identical to me, but what do i know" the real feeling when a civil engineers working with architect
I will say, as someone who builds houses, i despise extremely steep roofs
as a roofer I also hate them. give me a flat roof anyday.
The thought of all that weight on that roof. I live in Yorkshire. We often use Yorkshire stone slates which are much thicker than blue slate. To cope with the weight the roofs are built very shallow to keep the area down. Much easier on the knees and ankles to work on too.
It was a pretty architect move by rce...
Isn't it necessary in places that get a lot of snow though?
@@FakeGuthix01 Depends on the building. I live in michigan and all the factories here still use flat roofs. homes can too but most are not built to handle the load however you can still get away with nearly flat roofs which allows you to do roofing work without a harness.
I found you randomly a couple months ago and I haven't stopped watching your videos since. Keep it up! You have a permanent viewer here!
Glad to hear it, thanks!
Having watch videos of actual houses being built, this game is driving me nuts. I can see what they're trying to do in the game, BUT... it's not even close. :(
The whole stairs incident reminded me of what my Journeymen (plumber) always said.
"We do it nice because we do it twice".
Concrete has aggregates in it (small rocks). Without it the aggregate it is just sand cement mix.
This is what happens when engineers get out of the office
BTW this is a joke. Noone get upset
As an engineer I’m screaming that this game specified 6:1 for foundation work. This is why we can’t have nice things
Wow. No matter how funny it is watching rce be an absolute idiot at things like minecraft and ksp, its great to see how he actually knows his stuff. Good job rce and nice video like always.
As a builder, thank you for making things easier for us
This is amazing seeing all this new content
My grandfather used to own one of those cement mixer barrels. I was so annoyed he gave it away to his neighbor. It was so nice to have access to it. We used to use it for all sorts of things.
The fact that the custom blueprint maker feature at the near-end of the video when making "The Strongest Shape™️" home uses Metric is satisfying
I had trouble breathing when you zoomed out on ya building design. That was gold.
The engineers conceptualize it and the builders sort out the practical bits!😁 for instance my grandpa is a retired USFS worker and one time he was doing a job and he asked where the engineer wanted the dirt (they were flattening an area) and the engineer told him where to put it BUT my grandpa warned him it wasn't a good spot but the young engineer said it was all right, So he piled it up and sure enough the pile blocked a lot of the site! From then on that engineer had a lot more respect for the builders on the job expertise👍
When I started as an Electronics Engineer both the other engineers and the technical people putting stuff together were pleased when I started popping down to the production area and asking them about stuff when I said "I was going to put this new module here, and it is a bit tight but can you put it together OK?" and "I have to write a process for how to do this, how would you actually choose to do it?" then I just omit the 'go out for a fag now' (that means smoke/ciggy to non-brits) and put something like ;wait 5 minutes for readings to accumulate and stabilise'. One of my proudest accolades post-graduations is the people who put stuff together telling me my soldering work isn't bad (normally if you see an Elec Eng with a solder iron things will be bad for all soon).
I love it when people work together so well!😊
watching this hurt, this game made making a house look easy, thank you for pointing out the faults you saw, that plastic substance was most likely metal, you can have metal stud walls
Someone else said it was MetSec. Whatever that is.
man i find ur videos so relaxing and calming they help me sleep during the night then i rewatch them during the day ur e the best RCE
this is fine.
I imagine the lack of overlap on the roof tiles would be the result of the builders either failing to install it or the engineer failing to give the builders accurate information. The architect’s job would be to say “have this kind of tiling for the roof” then it’s up to the engineer to figure out the best way to do that, and then builder’s job to build it.
My dad was a builder/construction worker for a while and didn't have a lot of respect for the engineers. They thought they knew better than everyone and were very protective and stubborn about their plans. Communication was always one way, downward. Engineers wouldn't have a lot of respect or care in how the building would actually be built. Some even intentionally made the job harder to complete on purpose because they were in a position of authority over others. Generally though the doers will find the fault in every plan and the engineers wouldn't communicate. My father's co-workers didn't understand why an engineer was paid so much more than them.
I love the games that let you talk about your profession
There are screws that work with hollow bricks. We call them turbo screws here. Really long ones. We usually use thise for windows and doors. And a lot of foam :D
Huge respect for putting so much effort in producing this video.
I love your videos. Haha. You are very articulate in your choice of words from the English language as well - with that slight touch of comedy. You make my day when I am feeling down. Thank-you.
You sounded so happy sharing your knowledge!
Very cool, wish you went at it at like half speed though. Love to see the technical stuff from a pro.
In the uk partions walls use those metals profiles nowadays (not every where buy majority) they just screw in to floor/ceiling then the verticals get cliped in with tabs then screwed to secure
14:18 Engineers...... Always painting themselves into a corner.
good explaination of all the stuff, especially on the builder part, because that's really what we do
As an individual' who was an engineering Major (I dropped out due to finances), and now works blue collar. The issue we have with engineers isn't personal at all, just a decent amount of engineers think they're never wrong, and are typically clueless while on line or site. Very often we have ended up with engineers yelling at us that we're wrong, when the build sheet they gave us is just incorrect. Also they just don't pay attention to the dangers surrounding them, so you gotta essentially hold their hand so they don't get run over by a forklifts, put themselves under a suspended load, get hit by a massive hanging truck frame, etc, etc. That being said, when you have an engineer who cares and listen to your input and even asks for advice or opinions it's the greatest.
Never have I ever added sand to concrete in construction. Unless I’m making mortar. Mortar is sand lime and porcelain cement.
That poster That says to add to your steam wishlist is right, we should all make it our mission to wishlist that scaffolding
i mean , at least here in greece is illegal to mix concrete on site , and even if it wasnt the regulations on the water to cemment ratio and the amount of fines allowed in the cemment are tight enough to make it nearly imposible to mix it on site properly if you dont do a proper analysis on the agregate, also here most concrete is a CEM ii C20/25 - C30/37 and to be pumped so you need 300 kgs of gravel and 330 of cement per m^2 so it might be diffrent per type of concrete
Here on Brazil, at least on residential construction, the builders mix it on site, with a mixer or even on the ground with shovels, depending on the size
Let's go. New video, look forward to it every time!
a few things =)
the scaffolding with the screws is totally normal in austria - and yes you do screw down door and window frames into the bricks =)
Finally, proof that RCE is Actually an architect
In New Zealand the inner walls are built the same as the outer walls the whole wooden frame is built at the same time
Congrats, as an engineer you had me in stitches within 30 seconds of starting this vid!
That profile framing are often made of a low quality steel called SECC here.
Depends on the job as to what we use for partitions majority of residential is wood but most industrial/commercial is aluminium channel, also screwing into concrete floor? Usually use a shot fire for that to drive in floor anchors. 😂
We all gonna ignore how fast this guy BLEW UP! Much deserved.
You forgot to add the stone when making your concrete. Sand and cement gives you mortar. Also you seen like a very good engineer for how young you are. 👍
you reminded me some of my roof's tiles broke last monsoon, so I texted my dad to remind him about it, since monsoon starts in like six weeks
In the process of turning an idea I to reality, every person responsible for a little more of that transition hates the people who came before them for not understanding the difficulty of their job. An architect draws a funny shape, the engineer figures out how to make it work on paper, but forgets that people have to assemble it somehow. It's jot until the builder or tradesman looks at the plans to make it, that the engineer's plans arent quite enough. Then they have to send it back to the engineer to get corrected and re-approved.
The most hated person though is the final customer who keeps changing their minds mid project so no one is on the same page.
Steel toe is probably one of the worst things you could wear at a construction site. The second something heavy falls onto them, you've lost your toes!
Can not believe he is already on almost 1 milion subs. He really deserve it.
When it rains, the roof falls apart.
This game looks cool. I can't wait for this game to come out :D
Also it’s the ground workers doing foundations usually and splash course then the bricklayers come in
Arround my parts all the internal walls are done with bricks too. No lousy weak plaster in frames.
I think there should be a separate game which links into this one where you tell the builder off for doing things he shouldn't like jumping off the scaffolding rather than using the ladder.
Believe it or not we do actually use those metal things for plaster boarding and the main plasterboard company, gypsum, only guarantee their stuff on it as they claim that movement in timber can cause damage
the cement bag being split open over your head. it is accurate. it nearly happened to me once and it happened to another guy too.
Ooh, another game! Will it be one that is added to my wishlist, only time will tell.
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Bill Durr? Hmm, I quite like having the robots have proper names. I'm guessing the robot in charge is named Lee Durr, if we're going to use some of my ol' nemesis names from all those Carmen Sandiego games.
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They make screws specifically to secure into blocks, those door and window ones are probably those. The only one that made me take pause was the bottom one on the window that seemed to go into the mortar joint, which gives me pause.
This was surprisingly educational. I’d be curious to see your reaction to playing Factorio
They missed out the part where you've put the scaffolding up, but then have to wait 5 hours for the bloke with the scaf tags
All the sunset im just thinking about what it would be like if your channel was called real civil builder
Watching this video, I think understand why builders might dislike engineers
Ah yes, Bill Derr, the robotic cousin of legendary Lego Island resident Bill Ding.
More of this game please
The fact that the name of the game is builder simulator proves that this is the builder simulator
If you want a building game where you can build any building, might I suggest landlords super, it’s pretty good and because of the somewhat resent update you can build what every you want to
i learned a lot about engineering in this video alone
thanks RCE
You should play Landlord’s Super. It would be fun to see you play that game and make a series out it.
16:09 Welcome to tiny part of our world matt 😂😂❤️(architecture)
very interesting video and also full of information!!!! Love it
So this is how veteran soldiers feel watching ArmA.
Used to (and will in the future) do a lot of building. This is not exactly the same, but it rings some bells.
If you wonder why people get pissed off at engineers, just look at all the gas can spouts.
the onyl brand that has good spout ion the USA is called "no spill"
I'm just so surprised they don't have the block stretcher in this game
The triangle of hate is formed. Builders vs Engineers vs Architects.
And the fact is they cant do anything without each other 😂😂😂
I'm studying to become a licensed builder. I now know why everyone hates architects
As someone aspiring to be an architect, while also getting a technician's degree this year, I can say for sure people don't hate all architects, just the ones who only have experience in making buildings look pretty - the kind that went to university from grammar school. For one of our school projects, we got designs that didn't even have all of the necessary measurements and had messed up facade plans, made by nationally acknowledged architects. The guy who made mine must've had hiccups every two seconds, since I cursed him and his entire bloodline twice while making a documentation for the abomination someone very wittily named a "plan".
As someone who was a laborer for a grading and paving company here in the states I'm mad that there wasn't a part where you get yelled at by your foreman because you didn't dig enough dirt out for the concrete guys to put the concrete forms in.
3:48 it is hard on the machine to start the motor under load. you want to get it rotating before you put much weight into it.
seems good i want more
Imagine you have to cut the blocks, and ad beams and temporary support :)
Please make more of these vids !!!
Might I suggest Landlord Super? It seems to be a bit more like what you're looking for in a building game.
not allowed to use those scaffoldings anymore, tho they are how you describe with the weird clip things on a pin. gotta use ladder jacks now, horribly unsafe to set up but safer to use during
1. Yes you can secure to senderbolcks.
2. That is steal frameing most commonly used in commercial and industrial construction.
3. Ya your dry, but we can drink and still do our jobs, but your sober and still can't do your's job, exp foundation done to 2' in one dimension but should be 16', "foundation/concrete guy's did as told, framer's figured it out, 2.3 million house.