Electromagnetic Levitation Quadcopter
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- Spinning magnets near copper sheets create levitation!
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Obviously this "quadcopter" is a demonstration device, showing how moving magnets over a conducting surface can generate levitation. It has not been optimized to minimize losses or be an efficient mode of transport. I still think it's pretty cool. I'm used to seeing light things levitated by induced currents but not a 100+ lb machine.
For more on Hyperloop One: hyperloop-one.com/
FANTASTIC video Derek. I'll teeet it in a second. It make me realize that wouldn't there be a type of magnetic terminal velocity for hypoerloop because of Lenz's law?
moist
no, but there will probably be one for the *hyperloop
maybe edit that
Thats right Destin, and according to their calculation its gonna cost to fix that problem. They are gonna need about tree fiddy
SmarterEveryDay Lenz's law is responsible for the levitation itself. The speed of such a vehicle would be limited by the additive effect of inefficiencies in generating the levitation, such as the torque applied to each rotor by the slight difference in location of the magnetic fields, friction in the moving parts, air resistance (a vacuum on the scale of a hyperloop would require an insane level of energy and money to maintain), and others.
Lenz's law is the first thing that came to my mind, too
I first saw a similar demo at the science museum in Toronto when I was 12, with the same promises assumed, I'm 62 now.
I'm sure it was the same bag-o-dicks presenting their one way thinking of stupidity like these guys. Too much money being made with some harmful tech that must be produced to keep us living like the caveman.
I bet they already found that promise.... to valuable to share I guess
And the US government rubbing their hands, weaponizing alien anti-gravity tech
@Tanner Powers Like?
@Tanner Powers In that case maybe he should consider announce it to the world.
What is his patent number?
I'm reading a fascinating book about Electromagnetic Levitation... I can't put it down.
Master Therion what's it called?
Master Therion what's it called?
chandra D its a joke
Atom Sim I just realized. I am a moron.
low key disappointed though.
Nice one ;3
Perfect...
Now we need to make all the copper roads
LOL
Max Garcia copper powder could added to the bitumen
Well we got a green city.Haha...And a very hot one too.Haha. BRING ME THE EGGS PLEASE.
@@buckminsterfullerene2294 It will never have the same effect ...
The density of the plate is proportional to the weight effect ...
(Same effect inside the copper tube and its effect due to thickness of the tube)
Copper powder roads actually do exist, just not for this purpose.
It'd actually be better if it was aluminum or gold, or something far more specific and convoluted.
@@gigaus0 : Actually, copper is fine. Though I'd go for aluminum for cost reasons. The bigger issue is that it needs to support a strong enough magnetic field, so a powder mixed with asphalt probably isn't a good choice. I'd go with thin but overlapping plates or something instead.
i only imagine razer loking at this and thinking
"man, that april fools prank was a good idea"
Someone finally applied it, hope to see it evolve in my lifetime. Great job!
It was perfected in the 1930's and patented. Ancient technology.
the last sentence that guy said... "to be able to get to a different city in the same day in my life time would be amazing" or something like that... does he not know about them aero planes?
you even could get to another city that is more than 1000km in one day by a car, lol. I think he might mean "in an hour"
Yeah maybe he doesn’t get out much..
Yeah this comment threw me. Australia would be screwed if a truck couldn't drive between the main cities (1000-2000km) within a day.
@@johannesandersson9477 you reckon? look how long his beard is, maybe he can't make it to the gate
it might have meant as a ferry : since trains can run on a tight scheduele , at extremely high speeds , but realisticali i think that 840 km/h ( 520 miles/h ) is a maximum above that it'd be impractical to make ordinary passangers handle the accelleration / you wouldn't enjoy the advantages of going at high speeds ...
and BTW the Hyperloop is garbage : you simply can't make a low pressure chamber with that size , the tech isn't there yet ...
A step upward in science, physics. Thank you for making it so clear.
Visited Vanderbilt Univ a little of 5 years ago and saw one very similar in action. Pretty cool. Then they showed me the video that inspired them and it was one of my videos from 10 years ago.:) Still amazing to see it work. Kudos on the video.
Took me five months to travel by horse drawn carriage to the next town over :(
If only I could get a horseless buggy...
Yeah, no kidding, right? I thought about that guy, "Really, ya think?" Psschh!
I can think of so many great applications for this technology
For any curious experimenters, keep in mind that high temps destroy neodymium magnets... and I mean like the sorts of temps of the "hood of your car trunk on a sunny day" - hot will severely weaken them so keep that in mind when using expensive magnets like these.
Not quite. Some people could misunderstand this comment and think that neodymium magnets are useless and therefore "traditional" magnets should be used.
For each application obviously you have to choose the material, geometry, system, etc. adequate. In this case, if you want to use SUPERMAGNETS (that is, magnets made with RARE EARTH, such as neodymium-iron-boron Nd2Fe14B), you must choose another material. That material is the intermetallic compound Samarium-Cobalt, SmCo5, which has magnetic properties almost as good (approximately 85%) as neodymium magnets, and whose critical temperature is about 2.5 times higher, even better than the critical temperature of many traditional ferromagnetic materials.
Me, a brainrot victim: UsE LiQuId nITrOgEn.
And 4 years later and we still don't have any US high speed rail systems in development nor hyperloops anywhere beyond the "we're testing to see the viability of it".
What you talking about we've created Mr magneto
@@riptmedia7416 LOL
Yes we do in shelby ville ogdon ville and soon springfield will have one. "Doh"
The problem with a hyperloop is that it is more likely to transport poor people to where rich people live than the other way around. That's why it isn't viable.
Everybody already knows the viability of hyperloops. Possible, but really, really bad ideas compared to existing transportation.
Some day, I'll be able to go from one city to another in a single day... *Gets on airplane*
Or get in a car, or even a bike.
I caught that too 😂
@@magnetospin heck, I walked to another city before.
* WALKS (thinking about bordering cities...).
* Walks from Juarez to El Paso *
When I was 17, I posted a question on 2 different physics threads trying to understand magnets, and what would happen if you could disturb the flow of the magnetic field. Not only did people not really answer, but a bunch of ”professors” (however much weight that title holds on the forums i do not know) shut the 17 year old me down so freaking hard telling me im digging in the wrong spots and that this information is useless, ”otherwise, others would have already thought about it”.
Now this guy right, 6 years later is telling me how they actually achieved this prior to me even posting the question, and the tech is being used in the large hadron collider... such a freaking shame tbh.
That’s why you don’t allow your ego to be hurt by the interweb denizens. For every one person you find who is good support, there’s 100 naysayers who will beat you down...and 1000 who’ll say, “duhhh...wut iz u ta’kin’ ‘bout?
@@Name-ps9fx lol nice Russell Westbrook quote
@@thecaptain29
Who’s he?
@@Name-ps9fx famous basketball player, you quoted him exactly 😂
@@thecaptain29
I don’t watch pro sports...I thought I was being original.
Damn aliens, beaming signals into my brain again! 👽
Woah. Imagine in the future when I can travel from one city to another city in one day!
Gee, technology moves fast.
City to city travel, can be done these days, easily - a couple of Maglev trains are running, one of them over a 150 mile long track ( Tanjin to Beijing ; another from Shanghai Airport to Shanghai city 19 miles ; each is a commuter service. Japan, also runs Maglev train services, & that's about it, all other trains are steel wheels, or you either fly, or cruise via sea.
A Great Idea for Forging using High Frequency Alternating Magnetic Field
You know, I'm not sure about practical consumer uses, but this would be perfect in large warehouses. Imagine a frictionless pallet jack or rolling safety ladder
Yeah but imagine how much easier it would be if it glided effortlessly after that initial push, you'd double your efficiency. It wouldn't be too hard to add a brake to this, surely they can come up with something
It wouldn't make my job easier at all. Pallet jacks are motorized and it would be hard to add a brake, how do you stop something that's levitating? Not to mention the double pallet jacks I use weight more than a car when they're loaded up.
Whatever dude
IT ONLY WORKS ON METAL SURFACES WITH A MAGNETIC FIELD ! ! !
The floor is lava
Back in 1996 at the International Tesla Conference, a gentleman there demonstrated this same effect with two rotating cylindrical spinning magnets, There was an aluminum bar levitating a couple of inches above the both of them. They were also spinning in opposite each other. Los Alamos New Mexico through Sandia Laboratories was looking into using his system for Maglev trains at that time.
Simple yet brilliant
I was always wondering how them aliens where whipping those saucers around my house so smoothly
Dude thats only true if the world was made up of some conductive metal
@@ayushsrivastav9055 say this again but slowly
@deconvertedguy well tbh its not justified why we have poles some say do to molten core which is mostly metal and its spins which induce magnetic field. but molten lava is way too deep inside the earth so thats out of the picture
@@ayushsrivastav9055 The world has a lot of conductive metal, but most of it is heavily insulated and it isn’t NEARLY densely packed enough to induce an appreciable magnetic field.
What if you arranged the magnets like this:
↑↑↓↓←→←→B A
You could, but that would be cheating ;)
You get 25 lives
You enter no-gravity mode and can do all the kickflips you want.
You will be banned for doing that!
NFSP G35 then you would unlock the secret chara for th game
The craziest thing is I watched a man take an old engine apart the other day and immediately thought of an idea like this. I’ve been thinking about it non stop since then and bam this video shows up on my feed.
Amazing experiment!
The heating effect is called Magnetic Induction which is what makes Induction Cooktops work.
Edy current ?
I screwed around with this in middle school a bunch of guys and I thought it would be funny to sping magnets on a motor to use as a method of power transmission, never thought of using it this way even after learning about the moving a magnetic field thing in high school
This reminds me of some kind of cnc drill
Because it can lift some heavy weight things such as big drill and its still easy to control where it goes,
on the right track...keep it up
Man, I can't wait for future generations to be able to travel to different cities in one lifetime. What exciting times we live in.... I thought that technology only existed in the Flintstones documentaries.
You clearly misheard.
Damn I am fast, like electrons almost
TheFaarf
Too true.
TheFaarf u mean like photons
Electrons aren't that fast, unfortunately...
should have said light, electrons are slow in electricity and also because of quantum mechanics, an election isnt orbiting so its not really moving.
electron in conductors only travel at the order of 10^-7 m/s in conductors. You might want to reconsider
Wow I can't believe it!! I've held this vision of a hover car since i was a kid by trying to implement something similar to a set of four car wheels and the ground (maybe some ferromagentic paint), but never had the robotics skills to make that happen! This is quite literally my dream come true!!!!!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Love magnets they're amazing.
If you used this in a house to move certain things efficiently, what if you took the heat generated on the floor, underlayed the floor with water so that water is boiled for steam to be produced and then the steam is then circumvented into a steam engine to gain back some of the used energy. The floor would also have some form of heat resistant coating so you can step on it too.
i had an idea for a levitating non-wheelchair using something similar. nice to see it would've actually worked :)
Great video
Awesome! Thank you!
I really would like to know how much energy is used to levitate since there that counter torque. and how much more efficient would that kind of transportation be compared to losses due to friction of e.g. ball bearings.
And now you've asked the golden question and you will not like the answer not if you're hoping for any kind of practical device to come from this video.
ever!!!! Not in the near future but ever!!! in all of time😂😂😂😂😂😂
There's no such thing as a free lunch by the looks of it.
@@stewedapple That's correct I absolutely detest the
" term free energy" it's an oxymoron.
I do however believe that very nearly free energy And very nearly pollution free ways to get it must be possible.
@@Noneyobusiness851 either way, it's just delaying the inevitable. Let's prevent the hippies from destroying the global economy over nonsense doomsday propaganda.
@@thecaptain29 Can't even remember what we were talking about I think it was the inefficiency of a mag/ Lev ?.
But I would definitely say that yes! there are some people in the world who don't understand half of what they complain about, Like as you said "hippies" Who often failed to fully understand the full remifications of lot's of the silly ideas they try to get behind, It's just a simple case of not seeing the bigger picture Take electric cars for example A lot of hippie types Wanna buy e cars and save the world, They have no clue that electric cars are very toxic for the environment As well just in different ways The only reason they would ever become popular is because they have a much lower maintenance costs In the end the electric car is more about economy than it is about ecology But that's definitely not the way they spin the commercials and the hippie people buy it right up without ever considering anything else.
the fact one of the guys worked on hyperloop one does not give me confidence this will be practical and usefull lololol
Can you explain to me what you just said
Main Problem with them are 1. It needs a LOT of power 2. It makes a LOT of heat. 3. They break easy and aren't cheep to make. but if we got over those problems then they would start to see more use.
@@evanschmitt2802 you forget they need a big slab pf copper plate beneath them. so your limited to the space you place an inch of coppersheet
@@sadev101 That's also a problem
A very long time ago I saw a soneliod with an iron rod running through it. The rod was about 2 to 3 feet in length. An ac current was inducted in the coil, which was mounted vertically. A doughnut shaped aluminum ring was placed around the rod and it floated about halfway up. This was because of the induced eddy currents. Would be a nice suspension device.
Seeing these things work, i think i know how they work, and after listening to the explanation, i know that i was almost 100% right, but it still intimidates, that you have a degree in physics, and in real life i wouldn't be able to answer confidently if i had to.
I cant help but think how this tech could be adapted to bobsledding, at lightning speeds! Copper track, with Tesla Sled, all iced up for hard contact turns.
Of course new designs for tracks...
Imagine implementing this technology into beyblades
I really want to see this happen, but a problem immediately comes to mind: you need a power source of some kind. Maybe it's possible with some kind of capacitor since the moment it gets off the ground, there would be a lot less friction to contend with and it could probably keep its momentum like a classical beyblade.
Goddamn, can we get Smarter Every Day or Stuff Made Here or someone similar on this?
the levitation effect would be similar to that one beyblade in Russian team which floats due to waves
Lmfao of all the comments.
I like how he just picks it up and guesses it's weight so accurately
Will be excellent future.
But I don't get this: the point of levitation is to get rid of friction, allowing greater speeds (and also less wear), but here we just saw that there is resistance to motion and a lot of heat produced. And if you ever had an aluminium block and a strong magnet, you can try moving the magnet quickly over it and see how strong the pull is. So, is the net effect still better than using wheels that have very good ball bearings?
Ciroluiro with maglev, most of the electromagnets used are high temperature superconductors that are Flux pinned at certain heights. They generate no heat and act almost like magnetic mirrors. All the energy required is maintaining enough heat extraction such that ambient heat diffusion doesn't move the plate above the critical temperature.
Komninos... hyperloop may be a pipe dream for some reason or another, but it's worth a try even if it fails... we'll still learn a ton. You sound like the naysayers in the 60's with their "spaceflight is impossible and a waste" BS... even if it were a complete failure, which it obviously wasn't, we still gained world-changing technology that is highly practical today just from trying.
The drag is speed dependent which mean if you move that magnet on the aluminum block fast enough you'll actually experience reduced drag and more lift.
I couldn't imagine wasting my life by working for a hyperloop company.
This made me think of the hovering vehicles in Star Wars. I cant believe this technology is actually in use in trains! So cool. Not sure about the hyperloop.
I’m very proud of you Aussie bloke. Sooner rather than later we will have ARVs with transdimensional travel capacity
we need a new version of air hockey with this technology! (as long as we can counteract the heat)
Kenny Lee Sign me up!
Remember how computers were all big and bulky.. and now they’re in our pockets! You just wait!!
@John in all seriousness, no.
It's really interesting, thanks
I would love to see where you are now!
I once worked in a "Steel Mill" and we used to lift and move sheets of Steel weighing several Tons with an electromagnet powered by a 12v DC Car Battery.
Yes, because getting to another city in a day is impossible now.
Was just thinking the same thing
Stefan Smuts A real strong argument for a hyperloop huh.
maybe working in another city and coming back the same day?
If you want convenience go to 7/11,
That response only shows how ignorant you really are.
Very nice thank you for sharing
I am huge fan of yours from India ....... Your explaining power is just emence....💘💘💘💝💝💝💝💝♥️♥️♥️♥️
Something tells me that some portions of this video are going to show up in future Thunderf00t videos.
Probably as evidences and not the debunked
Well you sure won't be making a UFO anytime soon unless you feel like flying over a copper plate all the time
Technically it won't be an ufo cause we will know what it is
That’s cute but I doubt UFO’s use magnetic fields in this fashion.
This is the most brilliant thing i have ever seen do you know what this means.. you can turn on off panels of electromagnets rapidly to achieve the same effect with out the motors..
Very cool. And innovative
After more development probably Useful in warehouses and pretty much everywhere where you need to move things around as long you got enough copper for your surface and you still need to power it somehow.
I think there are better ways to to use the magnetic levitation for public transportation.
My one 😁. But unfortunately I can’t share it yet with you .
Keep on building and coming up with ideas. Awesome machine 🤙
Hyperloop. Such an impossible project, I'm still surprised it is taken seriously. Fun vid about a different kind of electromagnetic lift!
Weird how many universities and businesses do not find the hyperloop impossible but are instead pouring huge amounts of effort into developing it into a commercial product.
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 Weird how many universities and businesses smell money and try to grab some of it. And just in case you try to argue "investors would never give money to stupid ideas"… check out Theranos.
2:51 erm.... you got it wrong. It's actually up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A
Very good !!!
great video very kool!
It's been a while, but I think it's time for an old meme...
*Messes up hair, holds out hands*
Aliens
How would one go around calculating lift? What would one do to increase it? Stronger magnets? More RPM? Both? Is it possible to generate less lift on front side in order to "slide forward"?
I don't recall the lift stuff, but the rest of the stuff is "yes". Look up stuff like "linear induction motor" and "magnetic river" for more.
@@absalomdraconis Awesome, thank you.
Impressive ! Merci !
thanks for uploading new way
Aluminium FREAKIN' Roadways!!
Or made of copper sheets... then thieves will be tearing up the "roadway" to sell it for as scrap for dope... might as well call it the "dope-ways". lol
very un-environmentally friendly
So this is how the foundation makes 106's containment chamber.
Noticing foundation references all over youtube may be part a memetic phenomenon.
As long as it’s sitting on copper plates of course it will levitate do it with out the plate. I’m working on a gravity well generator that does the same effect but doesn’t require external parts to operate.
Good video.
As a German, people here already have the ability to travel from one city to the next in the same day. Yes, even by rail, because we have a proper public transport infrastructure.
Zuthal Soraniz People in America can also do that bc they have planes ✈👀
It's not because of a proper transport service. It's the size of your country. We have states larger than your country and we have one state that is almost double the size of Germany.
We also have a proper transport infrastructure, they're called cars, I hear Germany makes a few.
This reminds me of the ship in matrix with glowing disks
The hum from the levitating aluminium plate was fn terrifying
if you hit a arc magnet with a cylinder magnet from underneath, like under a bowl you get those fields you showed in animation, I did it on a crt tv 😁
I don’t see a practical purpose for a magnetically levitating “hovercraft”, but if you flip it upside down, I bet it’d make a good induction cook top.
I can fly from Florida to Japan in ONE DAY 👍
The majority of the gas you put in your car is spent on overcoming friction. Air and road surface.
@@protonjinx that is true. Internal combustion engines are inefficient, but unless you plan on lining the roads with steel plates, a magnetically levitating car is worthless. Mag lev trains are fine, but 1. We don’t have any, 2. They don’t drop you off exactly where you wanna go. I’d like to see hydrogen fuel cells.. most abundant substance in the universe.
@@rickpontificates3406 There have been Maglev trains since 2004, you know? (but how it works is different from the device in this video)
@@4rchfi3nd_4ct1ve maglev trains are fine. I said HOVERCRAFT. A hovercraft is not a train, but like the hover trains, would require a special surface to function, thereby rendering magnetically levitating hovercrafts useless.
Time to shrink the tech and make the next gen air hockey table lol
Already exists; It's expensive as fk, costs a lot more to run, and can only run for 20 minutes before damaging the non-metal stuff. But it does exist.
Very cool! I should have paid more attention in science class growing up...
Why wouldn't anyone dislike this video? It's phenomenal
what uses more energy, linear AC magnets or motors spinning permanent magnets?
In realistic systems spinning them will waste more energy, but in a super conductor space environment the opposite is true
That's pretty wild. Is this also the tech that moves a projectile in a rail gun?
If by tech, you mean electromagnetism? Yes. If by tech, you mean spinning magnets? No. I’d argue this is relatively more complex than a RG. RG’s are simple from an electromagnetic standpoint, scaling them to do what the Navy wants is what complicates things - this complexity mostly revolves around the amount of power certain electronic components can withstand.
@@richardramos5124 Thanks
Excellent 👍👍👍
Now all we need are roads out of copper sheets and BAM flying car! Woot!
Wow, 5:00 I must be living in the future, since I get from one city to another within a day regularly... cool.
My sister did this in the 80s lol...
In 4th grade as a science project...
Pathetic my cousin did it in his first hour of being born.
@@adityavikram244 mine in 1 minut.
@@yinyang1217 I did this before the universe was created. heard a big "bang" and next thing i new it was billions of years later and i was typing a stupid youtube comment.
Use an onboard electromagnet to lift the craft up & down, and an array of electromagnets around the crafts perimeter to change direction.
in the rverticle hollow tub if the dropping ball is heavy enough you can suck it up the tube magnetically with rsistence and achieve lift ... like catching the mementum of a pmouse trap .. pull magnet up fast and hit hard resistance at top is internal mag lev
I don't know why you're so impressed, it's well known that bumper cars are basically giant spinning magnets.
It's called: "Flux,"...flux braking - reactance Chi X (Ohm's) + or inductance of z, impedance.
As much as I love this channel, Derek is still human, and bias in certain videos is pretty clear.
"The idea of getting from one city to another city in one day" the 20th century has slipped his mind.
So it's like those magnetic trains that the ENTIRE planet has outside of the US.
yup
yup yup@@jeffchilds8050
Only a couple of countries have Maglev, and the country that invented it (UK) doesn't use them and never has, it should tell you a lot.
@@Barefoot_Joe I think that's probably because Britain is small and hilly. The benefits of lower friction add up over longer distances that we don't really have, so it makes more sense to use a faster but more conventional train.
@@Barefoot_Joe also the British one used an old technology, and got shut down because it worked so well & worn out so little they didn't bother manufacturing spareparts until it's too expensive to do so
When can we get a flying saucer, I wanna see Rick and Morty.
Rick and Morty passed away so what you really need to go see them is a cofffin💥🤭😂😂
So far this is the first time I’ve ever heard the Canada side of you Derek!
Love it
How fast do the magnets spin (like in rpm's)?
There are little mice who are trying to catch a piece of cheese, and the have been trained to wear non-slip sneakers. This force is connected to the magnets by means of a six speed transmission. in case any mice catch the cheese and extra energy is released.
That's why UFO's or flying saucers spin 🤔
2020 here, what do room temperature high pressure superconductors mean for this technology?
Well, first get the 200 million atmosphere pressure on the super conductor material... And then see if you can spin that material and the pressure container around like those permanent magnets....
With superconductors you wouldn’t need any spinning, but the ground would need to be covered in magnets.
when you said a magnet falling down a pipe i was like
Oh eddy current!
old video , but its educational. I love the world of science. Im also a Trekkie, so as spock would say; thats only logical. Derek you got my attention, because this way of learning is so much fun.