Dewalt Gen 2 Mower (DCMWP233U2)
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- čas přidán 28. 04. 2021
- So I bought the DCMW220P2 a year ago. It died a smoky death after 5 uses with the pulley melting and deforming. DeWalt sent me another one and it died without any drama after about 7 uses. They sent me a third one, but I couldn't bring myself to kill it, so I got a gas mower and have been happily chugging along. That is, until DeWalt released it's Gen 2 mower and I had to know... DID THEY FIX IT???
Well, sort of.
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Problems with it? Maybe because you tore it apart?
It's possible, though I tore it apart again and every connection is solid. I should have run it first, but I've never had a problem with a tool having issues like this. If it can't handle being dissassembled and reassembled then...
My brother really loves his 40v one... now he's stuck with obsolete equipment n ludicrously price batteries... if he can find them.
Good work.
Good review, I appreciate that you took it apart. Most of all, at least you're not using an amazon link for a little kick back change. Thank you.
Yeah, I've received a little flack for taking it apart, but I've never had a tool stop functioning, or have issues, after disassembly.
And I would feel bad if I got kick back from this mower. The only thing going for it is that it comes with two 10ah batteries!
I got my self propelled model and I love it. Self adjusting torque is great. No problems.
Yeah, I just got one. Self-propelled is awesome. Let's hope this one lasts! (And yours too)
how is it after a year
I've had it two years now no problems.
I have the self propelled and have not had any problems so far with it. Does a great job on my yard.
Yeah, I've had good success with the self-propelled FWD. I think there's a RWD model now.
Did you test before you did a tear down? Might be the thing to do so you issues can't be attributed to taking it apart??
I thought that at the beginning, but I have taken a lot of tools apart and fixed a lot of tools and there should be no reason for the weird and random mis-start issue. It's not acting like a wire that's not making good contact and all of the wires in the unit are inside of wago lever nuts and soldered to boards. You would have to yank on them really hard to disconnect them. And if it had something to do with a wire having a poor connection (from me moving parts around) then it wouldn't be as "reliably unreliable" as it is. But without whacking it, jiggling it, or anything else that might realign a poor connection, it will turn back on just fine. Also, it's not like it doesn't do anything when I try to start it (which would be the case if a wire wasn't completing the circuit), it starts up and then kills itself as if it doesn't have enough battery to keep going. That points to the "brain" reaching a fault condition and turning itself off.
Anyways, it could have been me, or be a lemon, or an actual problem that will start showing up with other people's mowers. We'll just have to wait and see I guess.
@@MyFortressConstruction It starting up and then killing itself is a classic bad connection. (23yr electrician here)
I believe your startup issue was the side safety switch that is supposed to pop out only when the handle is unfolded and locked upright. It can stick down, especially when there’s a bunch of grass wedged in there.
That's a good thought but I checked everything, including that switch. The tech that got it at the repair place said it was an unbalanced blade and that depending on rotation and vibration can cause it to shut off. However, I never tried running it without the blade so I only have his word to go off of.
Thumbs up for integrity and honesty.
Thanks, I left Milwaukee and went full DeWalt (well, except for Packout), but not all of their tools deserve a good rating.
"Milwaukee disassembling DeWalt." Bwahahaha. Best moment. Thanks for the deep dive.👍
Have had the self propelled for a few weeks now with the 12AH batteries. I absolutely love it!
I will say though there are some parts I worry about lasting a long time like the self propelled throttle seems like wanky plastic that will eventually break. I'm sure it can be replaced but they should have made it better quality. The height adjustment is a little wanky too.
As far as operation and cut though, I am very pleased!
Mine cuts in and out while mowing as well, very odd. thought i was doing something wrong in the beginning too but it still does it and i didn't disassemble mine.
Hmmm, interesting. They're sending me a new unit so we'll see. Definitely send yours in if it's still in that 1st year warranty. They paid for shipping to them, but I had to request it.
This might help on a review i watched the yellow safety switch you press first to start, apparently you should hold that down for a bit longer, like may be 5 seconds then release should stay running see if this helps
My Dewalt trimmer does the same thing, runs for a few seconds then dies, unfortunately it does it now non stop so my trimmer is totally useless
Probably tearing it apart cause the problem I've seen videos of this mower going through thick grass with no problem your grass wasn't thick are ready to mow
DeWalt tech said it was from an unbalanced lawnmower blade. Got a new one and it's been fine.
Update from my last post. My mower has gone from doing okay to not running more than 10min max before getting too hot. At first I thought the batteries were dying too quickly but then found out the batteries still had two bars showing on them of three bars total, both 10ah hr and the motor would start up but then as soon as I lowered it to the grass it would just cut off. My mower is maybe 4-5months old and had not used it that often. I would recommend "Do Not Buy This Product" unless they figure out what is going on with this cheap build.
Hmmm... So you could see (the next time it does it) if removing the blade makes it run again. The tech told me that if the blade gets warped that it can sense the off-balanced blade and shut down. Not sure if the tech was just grasping at straws for why my mower was doing that, but you could always test that on yours. Hope yours is still under warranty!
It’s probably not put together right. No one else is having this issue that I know of.
Yeah, if no one else is having this problem it probably was my fault. I haven't looked around though and I still don't know how I could have caused the issue. I will probably take it apart again and see if something is amiss.
@@MyFortressConstruction maybe something you did maybe not. Nice video though
I have this mower and haven't seen any of these problems in the last year and a half I've used it.
Yeah, that's the thing about these mowers. I have the fwd self-propelled mower and it's been doing fine. I have had 3 other mowers fail though. Not the best success ratio.
Mine was stalling like that too even after a new blade. there are 4 screws on that bottom plate that mount the motor. 3 were broken off so motor was moving inside the housing. I had to remove the broken studs, replace the 4 bolts and that solved it. there was play in the drive shaft before now its solid. I also discovered after doing this it is quieter and the batteries last way longer. I suspect this was moving around and wasting energy before they broke off and started the stalling issues.
Interesting, good tip!
I have a DCMWP233 but it needs batteries. What do you recommend I buy? Do they have to be Dewalt batteries? Thank you!
Yes, they have to be Dewalt batteries, either 20v or 60v will work since the 60v are backwards compatible. Depending on the size of your yard you will need at least two 5ah batteries, though a larger yard (>5,000 sq. ft.) will use two 9ah or greater capacity. I would actually recommend selling it if you don't already have Dewalt batteries and finding a brand you already have batteries for, or going with a more reliable brand such as Ego. You will find that the Dewalt batteries are very expensive and this mower is nothing special.
@@MyFortressConstruction thank you for taking the time to respond.
I just heard of I you do hold the yellow button before the lever not long enough it will shut off after a couple seconds. But if you do hold it longer aven 3-5sec after you start it it will not shut off. Maybe that’s why yours always shut off.
I'm 99.99% I was doing everything correctly (Gotta leave room for that .01% chance). It just did it occasionally. Tech said it was an unbalanced blade or motor spindle.
I’ve had mine for about three years and it just stopped running
Where did you find that mower for $150?
My local liquidator had it. He actually has about 50 of these. You wouldn't believe how many get returned to Home Depot. Look for my other video on how to get tools for 50% off.
Recharge time on the 10ah hr. batteries takes me 8hrs. on the DCB107 chargers. Takes me two days if I want to use just my push mower. If you find out how to put a switch to keep the higher RPM on all the time, post a video please. Thanks for taking the time to post this.
The only reason I got mine was the folding handle for storage otherwise I would have gotten the Makita that comes with 4 batteries. It did not come with a folding handle.
Wow, that's slow. Time to upgrade to a fast charger.
Getting it to stay at high torque all the time would require finding out what part of the board sensed that additional stress on the motor. I probably am not the one to figure that out, but you never know...
@@MyFortressConstruction I had sharpened it up one time but I also balanced it as well. It did seem very cheap and thin. Possible it could get out of balance again. I will take it off and re-sharpen and balance it. I will get back with you how it does. Thanks for the heads up.
I have the self propelled mower, after a few times of overheating it will no longer turn on. Really disappointed and frustrated because at first it was doing a phenomenal job and had amazing run time on the 10 ah batteries.
Yeah, it seems like all battery mowers struggle with heat. I have the FWD self-propelled version and it's been doing great, but Dewalt's track record hasn't been good so I'm wondering when it might kick the bucket. Is yours FWD or RWD?
The rev-up and die thing sounds like you aren't holding the button long enough to let the engine fully start.
Yeah, I know that's what it sounds like, but that wasn't the case. It was shutting itself off because of an imbalanced blade according to the DeWalt tech. I've got the FWD version and haven't had any problems from it.
@@MyFortressConstruction I just bought the push version this week. Hopefully DeWalt has ironed out most of the bugs. In Toronto at Home Depot this mower is going for $650 Canadian....First cut was great - battery life is great. We'll see how it holds up. It is just for home use on a moderate sized (.25 acre) yard.
@@chrisgilligan4968 iupdate:?
@@randomrazr So far so good. The weather has been hot and dry - so I haven't gotten to test it on thick lush lawn....but the couple times I have cut the grass it has been excellent.
@@chrisgilligan4968 wonder if the non push one is worht the extra cost
You screwed it up by taking it apart. You probably where releasing the handle that shuts it off. We can’t see the handle it the video
Oh wow! A double accusation! You got me, I'm a secret DeWalt hater trying to skew the results. Lol. I've taken many things apart and fixed many a broken tool. The tech that got it said that it was an imbalanced blade or shaft and that's why it would only start sometimes. He took it apart as well and nothing was wrong with what I had done.
I got 20 minutes out of mine and now the blades wont spin
The electric motor is a outer rotor type brushless DC motor.
I just bought mine. It run great for first 10min and can’t start again: The battery gauge on the mower blinked once but motor did not start...
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I feel your pain...
@@MyFortressConstruction Will exchange for a new one. Hope that the new one works normally.
That was the dumbest move I’ve ever seen in a video like this. What were you going to do if the blade came off while it was spinning like that? You would have tried to grab it and you’d be missing some fingers. Good lord, I hope everyone sees exactly what not to do.
My wife would agree with you. *Don't tell her about the video.*
_I have to tease a little_
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@@MyFortressConstruction Gotta say though, When when I came to that part I immediately subbed. You have my kind of humor, there and throughout the video.
@@djcanfield1 Thanks for subscribing. Guys like you and me have to stick together or the only toy allowed at playgrounds in the future will be pillows!
Or maybe it'll be because of guys like us...
😅Phew, that was a close one! Looks like i will have to break from my all Dewalt tools habit and get that 2 blade Ryobi cross cut lawn mower.
Yeah, I never learn... I just bought the self-propelled version and I'm hoping it lasts longer than 5 mows! This will be my 5th DeWalt mower in a year. Went through three 1st gen mowers and one 2nd gen so far. I have to say that the self-propelled mower is so nice to mow with on my uneven yard. If DeWalt didn't have a good warranty (for the 1st year at least) I wouldn't keep trying them out.
Unfortunately ours had hard time with higher grass and stopped working and stalled and than just wouldn't turn back on. After second use. Very disappointed
Yeah, these DeWalt mowers just seem super unreliable. I am currently on my 6th. It is the 2nd gen, self-propelled version. I bought it used and it's been great. Can almost do my entire yard on two 9ah batteries and I haven't had any issues from it. But 1 out of 6 is pretty bad odds... We'll see if it makes it through this season.
Thank you for saving me the hassle of buying a mediocre lawnmower! I’m a DeWalt fan, but I’ll pass on this item. I like the outro music you’ve been using for a couple of these videos too.
Yeah, so far they don't have a great track record. I just bought the self-propelled version to try out and I like it for the self-propelled feature but it still doesn't have a lot of power and the handle is clunky from all the levers you have to hold to make it go. We'll see how long it lasts...
@@MyFortressConstruction 😉😄 Maybe you could modify the mower showing DeWalt how to better power their mower! Would it be a motor from one of your many DeWalt circular saws?….or would you use a Milwaukee motor?! 😂
Maybe use something with power like the cordless DeWalt chain saw, but also have to keep in mind something with the right RPM.
@@craftsmanconnection Hey, there we go. A MilWalt lawnmower... They need to make a Flexvolt mower and everything is made from metal. No more plastic and cheapo electronics to break. Turn it on and go!
@@MyFortressConstruction It would be now considered a Hybrid mower. Would it be MilWalt or MilWaltee? 😂
Update on the mower?
It was sent back and they said it was an unbalanced blade, but they couldn't get a new blade for months, so I got the self-propelled version, which was great, until we moved.
This grass is too thick and the only thing that can handle it has been my gas Zero turn.
So, I've been through five DeWalt mowers, finally gave up, and am now mowing with a zero turn...
@@MyFortressConstruction Thank you for the update. Looks like from others as well that the self-propelled is the better version for now.
It stoping because of overheating switch. Same happening with corded ones. If you use side discharge or bag should avoid stalling. Mulching is to much strain. If they use belt or gear would solve problem but like with almost any tool it is designed by kids who don’t know to much.
(Same reply to another commenter)
I could see where you might think that, but no, it really was just failing and the DeWalt service center said it was because my mower blade was unbalanced. The system was detecting the vibration and turning off. That's why it was sporadic. They also said they couldn't get blades for it for a couple of months...
My vacuum does that just turn on off on quick
I hope you see this and many others but on all the new models they don’t have that thing where you half to hold it up out of grass to start it or anything mine works great starts no matter what model number 18a-u2c2738 manufactured 03/2021
I went over it again and didn't find anything askew so I called my local DeWalt service center and they said they'd look at it. The tech there couldn't find anything internally wrong so DeWalt is shipping me out a new one. I'm hoping this next one is problem free.
5th one is the charm?
@@MyFortressConstruction ya I talked to another guy he got a newer one that model number after I told him about it and he said it fixed his problems I promise you it will work perfect now I also talked to a guy from dewalt that confirmed it with me that’s why they started making the new new models
@@MyFortressConstruction just make shure it’s the new model number when you get it
@@chrismorgan1366 Yeah, that's interesting. I will check.
Is there a trick to get the bag to catch more of the grass.....it is a lot more work than my gas mower, because grass goes everywhere, and some of it goes in the bag.
Unfortunately, besides tilting it back and kind of shaking it while it's running, there isn't much you can do besides taking the bag off.
Not bashing .. but seems like you either have luck with dewalt mower .. or you don’t know how to operate or your missing something .. seen other videos with much taller grass and they didn’t have no trouble … 🤷🏽🤔
Haha, yeah. With this lawnmower it's possible I messed something up by taking it apart. I should have tested it before removing the motor, but I took it apart again and everything was tight and the connections were good, so I don't see how I could have caused the problem. As for the 1st gen. mower, they were just bad. Lots of people had problems with them so I feel like I'm in good company. I'll probably continue to get a lot of flack on this video but I can only show what I go through with tools. Everyone has to come to their own conclusions.
I called my local DeWalt service center and they said they'd look at it. The tech there couldn't find anything wrong so DeWalt is shipping me out a new one. We'll see. This will be my 5th one!
You have to hold down the start switch for a stupid long tong time upon starting it. Otherwise it cuts out. Not a problem with your unit, really just a stupid design. No big deal tho.
I could see where you might think that, but no, it really was just failing and the DeWalt service center said it was because my mower blade was unbalanced. The system was detecting the vibration and turning off. That's why it was sporadic. They also said they couldn't get blades for it for a couple of months...
You cant test the mower on 5ah batteries. Well you can but the performance wont be the best.
You're right in that performance will be increased with 21700 cell batteries, but 5ah batteries are made to be used in the mower and it does pretty well. Runtime in this 2nd gen. mower is a lot better.
Huh... that’s a definitely odd thing that it’s starting and stopping. I have a very strong feeling that this was built by a different company and has the DeWalt name slapped onto it. Like porter cable. Who knows though. No idea.
Yeah, it seems like they cheaped out on the build. The 1st gen felt more substantial and well-built. It just had some really bad flaws.
It's an MTD clone. Cub Cadet, Troy-Bilt, etc. DeWalt is part of Stanley Black & Decker who now also owns MTD. It's pretty disappointing that they slapped the DeWalt name on this low end mower. Though it can be a good deal if you need 10ah batteries I guess.
@@plmn93 Which lawnmower is it cloned after specifically? Lots of companies have the same umbrella Corp over them so it wouldn't surprise me. The design of most cordless mowers is pretty similar though (brushless motor, direct drive blade).
@@MyFortressConstruction Not exactly a clone, I guess. The deck, sometimes with slightly different plastic, can be found on $240-400 Troy-Bilt and Cub Cadets. But even they have bigger rear wheels so DeWalt cheaped out there too. The handle looks like it is based on Cub Cadet. Cub Cadet's electric is totally different, it looks like it was designed from the ground up as electric, where as DeWalt just took a cheap gas deck and put an electric motor on it. At least it is priced that way too. It's good to see you realize this isn't up to DeWalt's usual standards, it's amazing how many reviewers make this out to be a high quality machine, that is obviously because they don't really know much about how good quality mowers are built and how they perform. Personally I have my eye on the new Toro Super Recycler, it's essentially an electric motor put on a high quality design that has been around for decades. I just wonder if it's worth the money, seeing as how cordless mowers are essentially disposable anyway due to battery lifespans and replacement cost.
Was given one of these with a missing blade. So I bought a blade adapter and Maxpower blade from Amazon and that blade isn't electric mower specific so the extra weight shakes the crap out of the mower. The bearings are probably too small and the ABS motor housing can't take the strain. With that blade I got 11 minutes of run time out of a 9 ah and 6ah Flexvolt battery. Worst Dewalt product ever.
Definitely not capable of using aftermarket blades it sounds like... Sometimes free is worse than buying something that will work as intended.
@@MyFortressConstruction I found the Dewalt blades today and bought one, but I can't find the blade adapter with the S-shaped hole anywhere.
UPPDATE: MTD makes these mowers and if you put the model number into their site's search bar the parts come up. A blade adapter was 8 bucks (plus shipping). And for future interest Oregon sells a blade for $21 on Amazon that works for the Dewalt.
@@dalesworld1308 Good to know. Trying to hunt down parts is a pain!
I bought this model for mowing. Same problem what you have. Start run, immediately died. No reason, I try 20times, might have one time work. This mower is the worst mower I ever had…. Waste money and time
Did it do that straight out of the box or after mowing a few times? The tech said with mine it might have been from a blade balance issue. You could try pulling the blade off and then running it without the blade and see if you get it to stall. They didn't have any replacement blades so they just sent me a check and I bought the self-propelled version. It's been running fine so far.
Interesting issues you have there, obviously some electrical sensor.
Crazy thought, perhaps get a new blade?
Is it possible that a out off balance blade can cause this issue.
They sell a little cone to rest your blade to test for balance, or a crude way is hang it on a nail on the wall to see it it stays still.
I service my blade twice a year and ever since I started doing that I’ve noticed a smoother running motor.
Btw I’m still on gas, just now starting to look into Dewalt one.
Battery is the only thing I would let my kids use.
Kid nowadays are not like us old timers, at 10 years old we were working on our dirt bikes.
Now I get afraid to let them touch anything motorized, I feel that our common sense is missing by anyone 30 and under 🤦🏻♂️ 🤣🤣🤣
Yes, the tech said it was an unbalanced blade but because they couldn't get a blade for it (COVID shipping delays at the time), they just sent me a new mower! And yeah, I didn't touch a power tool until I was 14. Not for lack of desire, but when you grow up in a single Mother household (like many in America), you miss out on the blessings a Father can bring. Add the electronic revolution to that and there's no question why many millennials and Gen Z can't replace a faucet.
The way I see it, the ineptitude of children is an inadequacy of the parents. I don't blame my kids for being spoiled, or bad at something, if I'm the one spoiling, or not teaching.
@@MyFortressConstruction really!? A new lawnmower bc they couldn’t send you a new blade!? Wow! Now that’s what I call customer service! Wow, good for you man. 👍🏽 lucky bastard 😂
You are absolutely correct, we spoil our kids. I had it so hard while growing up I told myself my kids would have it different, yet my struggles is what made me the man I became to be. So there is that 🤦🏻♂️
I’m not here to judge on how anyone is raising their kids, my only advice is cut the electronics and specially social media ASAP!
My girl is 13 and son 15.
They only got phones like 3 years ago and I don’t allow them to participate in social media.
Due to the fact that I give them everything they need I feel I’m owed at least that one rule. but also they shovel snow and help out neighbors for a few bucks bc I don’t believe in “$ allowance” since I give them everything they need 😆
Shelter, food, clothing and PLENTY of family activities are covered, anything extra I tell them “go earn it!”
Everyone is different but plz, everyone, tech is killing our youth! Remember these youngsters are gonna be in charge of everything one day 😱🤯
Send them to play outside! 🤘🏽😎🤘🏽
Its great mower..maybe you should mention you didn't buy it new ..no one i know has any issue with there mower ..can't spend $150 and expect it to work as new m u get what u pay for ..never have I seen someone review a product that is not new in bitch and moan about it for entire video
Gettin' a little worked up? Lol. Just because I bought it for cheap doesn't mean it wasn't new (you can tell it's new when I'm unpacking it). The tech at the service center said he's had this problem from several and he thought it was because of an off-balanced blade. However, I bought another one (my 5th DeWalt mower) and it's been doing fine so far. It's the self-propelled version and that part is nice.
@@MyFortressConstruction not worked up but there's a reason its 150 bucks . It's just a very misleading review . Maybe you should of seen if I shut off before you took apart..still not quite sure y you did that in first place. The review just looks very skewed
Maybe you should make a video that your new one has no issues .. probably because you didn't take apart and ,2nd you bought new
@@amp2425 Nope, first one was new, this second one was used. I've taken apart many tools and there's no reason for it to have been doing what it was doing. Tech said it had nothing to do with the internals but was probably a mis balanced blade. Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong, but I can only report what I personally go through. This is my 5th DeWalt mower so they don't have the best track record. Do what you want with the information.
@@MyFortressConstruction i appreciate the response back .. i just think if your guns review products for people maybe take them apart after you tested it , so theres no skewed reviews and always test brand new products again for same reason .. The review itself was good , but if your guna review equipment this is not the proper way to review equip. to give viewers the best buying options on a product.. good luck
I bought the newest Dewalt lawn mower and it’s still fu king garbage lol. Ego may be the way to go. I’m gonna try one I think
How come I just watched a video of the dewalt destroying the ego why don't go play with your Chinese Milwaukee crap
I just used my brother's greenworks 60v mower (because I sent the DeWalt in) and it has more power and was able to do my entire yard on a 4ah battery and still have 2 bars left. He's been using it for a few months and likes it.
People would love a Milwaukee mower, but they haven't released one yet. Lol.
I do want to ask you Lou why you're so pro DeWalt. You comment a lot on DeWalt videos and like to stomp Milwaukee. Personally, I like them and prefer them over most Milwaukee tools but they do have tools that could use some refining.
That looks a cheap and weak design, I bet my garden care 20 inch gas lasts 10 times longer
I think your main problem is that it’s a Dewalt and not a Ryobi
At this point I think a Ryobi probably is better. However, out of the 3 18v Ryobi batteries I've had, 2 have died within a year.
@@MyFortressConstruction I’m liking the new Ryobi 40vmower I bought a couple of weeks ago
@@unbehaunjake I haven't used any of their 40v OPE.
My dewalt gen 2 is awesome unlike your review..
I'm feeling so burned right now. ;) I hope your DeWalt continues to be awesome!
Same, initially I was kinda annoyed because it wasn’t what I wanted it to be. I started using it for my residential lawn jobs I’ve probably done at least 100 cuts in the last month including huge amounts of over grown grass over 2 ft tall. I can do residential lot front and back on one charge even wet and over grown and usually I’ll still have 2 bars on both batteries. If you hit something it has a lockout feature just like the chainsaw no damage just restarted and keep going. One downside is the thin blade with proprietary mount but it does cut great and easy to sharpen. People always comment on how nice the cut is. I should add mine is the self propelled and actually my second mower… the first one didn’t have any of the issues he talked about but it did leak gear oil.
You should let a competent person do the disassembly. using a hammer on a ratchet. No arm strength?
Well, yeah, I'm certainly not the strongest guy, but when you work with your hands a lot you hopefully learn to work smarter, not harder. Kind of like the ol' pickle jar needing a few taps on the lid before opening.
Most gas motors also DO NOT have a pulley. You should actually look a a couple mower before you speak about incorrect facts.
??? I don't recall saying that all mowers have a pulley. I think what I said was that if a mower has a belt system that if it hits something that force isn't directed to the motor directly and would just cause the belt to spin. Every ride on mower I have used, besides the battery Ryobi mowers, uses belts and pulleys. I'm still not sure why the gen 1 DeWalt had a pulley seeing as it was an obvious weak link.