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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2024

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  • @Virrtue
    @Virrtue  Před měsícem +77

    I am SO SO happy that you all like this animatic! I am so grateful for all the support I’ve received so far and cannot wait to put out more Epic content in the future!
    My overall plan is to make either an animation or animatic for every Epic song. I’m not sure how far I’ll get but I’m excited to see where this takes me!
    My Horse and The Infant animation should be out by the end of year!

    • @wrenxelliot
      @wrenxelliot Před měsícem +2

      your animation is so cleanly done! so many in-between panels and it's so so soooo good! the movements are smooth! that's really good! you picked a great frame rate for the animatic!

    • @eternalcrownstudios7961
      @eternalcrownstudios7961 Před měsícem +1

      @@Virrtue yaaaayy!!!

  • @estrellaescobar5723
    @estrellaescobar5723 Před měsícem +449

    *Eurylochus:* Look me in the eyes and tell me, Captain... 👁👁
    *Odysseus gaze* ↗↘↙↖↪⤴⤵⬅

  • @Carmillia-Vespera
    @Carmillia-Vespera Před měsícem +367

    When it comes to Odysseus and Eurylochus, I’m a hater for both and a defender at the same time.
    Odysseus was a dumbass for doxxing himself and for sparing the cyclops but give him credit here, he was following his best friend last wishes.
    Eurylochus was a dumbass for opening the windbag but like he didn’t fully trust the captain after that fiasco.
    Odysseus is right when he says that Eurylochus would do the same. But that same thing made both of them loose trust in eachother.
    Both of them are just insomatic emotionally constipated idiots that miss home.

    • @asuriadragon3485
      @asuriadragon3485 Před měsícem

      I like your way of describe it !
      We can also conclude this way : they are just insomatic emotionally constipated idiots that miss home, they are just mens, they are just humans. With flaws, fears, doudt, dumb moment ect...

    • @comradekolbot2220
      @comradekolbot2220 Před měsícem +11

      People who defend Ody would feel differently if Polites was still alive.

    • @foolishfolly-x1u
      @foolishfolly-x1u Před měsícem +24

      so real!!! i feel like this isn’t a story of who to blame, rather that each individual is flawed and neither is good, and neither is evil :D

    • @MsPurpleDancer
      @MsPurpleDancer Před měsícem +24

      ​@comradekolbot2220 if politics was alive, Ody would have probably made different choices. A lot of the mistakes he made was because Polities died.

    • @MsPurpleDancer
      @MsPurpleDancer Před měsícem +9

      @@foolishfolly-x1u exactly. They're both flawed. They're each other's yin and yang.

  • @AnonEMouse-ls7fp
    @AnonEMouse-ls7fp Před měsícem +107

    I LOVED ypu choice of Ody trying to avoid pulling his blade until the last moment.
    Ody's reluctance to engage Eury conveys a sense of guilt that I haven't seen in other portrayals that I think is true to his character

    • @illuminategacha9776
      @illuminategacha9776 Před 17 dny +2

      I definitely agree, since the whole reason he became the monster was not just for himself, but so he wouldn't lose anyone else, and now he's sacrificed six men and facing the choice of fighting someone he's close to. He doesn't want to do this, he did all of this for the group as a whole and knew no other way to get past Scylla or he would've tried that other way. Now he's having to question if being the monster means killing off members of his crew who caused problems, like Aeolus told him to.

  • @TheAngel277
    @TheAngel277 Před měsícem +111

    I think this is able to show a very interesting perspective. There's nothing flashy about this which I think can kind of show just how tired everyone is. He did a really good job.

  • @gigi2820
    @gigi2820 Před měsícem +22

    SO GOOD!! I love your style! :D

    • @Virrtue
      @Virrtue  Před měsícem +6

      @@gigi2820 WHAT?? BDHDHDHDH THANK YOU I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS

  • @kikicogger2284
    @kikicogger2284 Před měsícem +53

    I really love that you didn’t have Odysseus raise his sword until Eurylochus was about to kill him. It’s how I’ve always imagined the scene- Odysseus trying to use his words to talk Eurylochus down as he truly didn’t want to hurt his friend. And while I may be just seeing things, the last look Eurylochus gives him seems almost apologetic or sad as much as it is angry. Very good job.

  • @pujee2846
    @pujee2846 Před měsícem +189

    dude i LOVE how you were able to carry so much motion with as minimal frames as possible. your poses were hella strong. and the expressions are so well done too!! how they shift from one look into another wgrahhh. your style just rules in general. AWESOME work!!

  • @sumomo2236
    @sumomo2236 Před měsícem +19

    The way Odysseus kept moving away from Eurylochus, too ashamed to face him. Broke my heart. The contempt on the faces of his men. T_T

  • @rainsplashwarrior7725
    @rainsplashwarrior7725 Před měsícem +77

    THIS IS UNDERRATED!! EURYLOCHUS TRYING TO MAKE ODY LOOK AT HIM IS AWESOME

  • @PilgrimXIII
    @PilgrimXIII Před měsícem +16

    I like how in this portrayal you have Odysseus actively avoiding Euralycus. It kind of portrays how Odysseus is trying to avoid the guilt and shame he feels.
    Definitely earned a sub!

  • @bambootriangle
    @bambootriangle Před měsícem +4

    Eurylochus: Nooo your plans can't be so brave and depend on your luck, people's gonna die
    Odysseus: Ok. (makes realistic down to earth plans to sacrifice as little as possible and escape)
    Eurylochus: >:(

    • @RoshieFlower77
      @RoshieFlower77 Před 23 dny +3

      Honestly, I think this was kinda on Eurylochus this time. Scylla is literally immortal, and she would take six men no matter what. They just had to row fast so they didn’t lose twelve. Yes, I do know that Poseidon blocked the way home BECAUSE Odysseus didn’t kill his son and “Ruthlessness is mercy” and all that, and Odysseus regretted that. Eurylochus was technically also at fault for that- he was literally the one who opened the bag that brought them to Poseidon.

    • @bambootriangle
      @bambootriangle Před 22 dny +1

      @@RoshieFlower77 Yes! I agree with you. While Odysseus gets all the blame and carries all the responsibility, Eurylochus is like, whoopsie doopsie you won't hold it against me brother, right?

    • @RoshieFlower77
      @RoshieFlower77 Před 22 dny +3

      @@bambootriangle And then he has the audacity to go and lead a mutiny against their captain, kill helios’s cows which brought Zeus’s wrath down on them, and then get mad at Odysseus when he decides to save himself. With everything that went down, i doubt the crew would have survived themselves if Odysseus did give up his own life.

    • @bambootriangle
      @bambootriangle Před 21 dnem +1

      @@RoshieFlower77 yeah the crew really brought it on themselves and then they're like "why didn't captain save us this time?!?!"

    • @RoshieFlower77
      @RoshieFlower77 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@bambootriangle yea! but i guess, that’s like, what makes the odyssey such a cool story. Both sides have faults and both sides have strengths, and it makes it hard to support and contradict both sides.

  • @fiaghost4759
    @fiaghost4759 Před měsícem +13

    looooooove the poses and expressions and movements here! it's so emotional! also the detail of Eurylochus also having a wedding ring- OUGH. pain.

    • @Virrtue
      @Virrtue  Před měsícem +4

      I’m so glad some people noticed that 😭

  • @Phasmania
    @Phasmania Před měsícem +4

    Eury is my favorite character and this animatic does him (and everyone) justice. All this hurts even more when after their fight Eury still calls him Ody/friend, and how he totally gave up hope on returning and on Ody as a captain :( (kinda understandable when Ody made him pick 6 friends to die him included but you know lol)

  • @lux_max.
    @lux_max. Před měsícem +11

    THE CHARACTER ACTING IS AMAZING BEYOND BELIEF
    You better do the later part of MUTINY

    • @Virrtue
      @Virrtue  Před měsícem +6

      @@lux_max. thank you! :D I will eventually come back and do the whole song but I just needed to do this part of it the scratch that itch in my brain. I hope to do the whole musical in order! I’m working on a proper The Horse and The Infant animation I hope to be out in a few months!

    • @yay29823
      @yay29823 Před měsícem +2

      YOU'LL DO EVERYTHING??? That's so amazing!! I imagine it will take a lot of work ​@@Virrtue

  • @HowdyMyDarlin
    @HowdyMyDarlin Před měsícem +12

    I really love the expressions and the art style! It reminds me of The Owl house a bit
    And that Ody didn't fight back until the "Odysseus" chant from his crewmates. That's when he made his decision, and struck.
    It's so cool!

  • @roomansahar9125
    @roomansahar9125 Před měsícem +12

    I love this so much!!! The way Odysseus doesn't want to turn around and face Eurylochus because he's guilty and how the crew moves to stand by him to show their support is awesome.❤

  • @World0fhijab
    @World0fhijab Před měsícem +15

    OMG this is exactly how I imagined it.. before the official animation

  • @boredbby3326
    @boredbby3326 Před měsícem +21

    Some highlightssss
    0:29 not him avoiding eye contactttt wowowow
    0:41 dude is trina be understanding
    1:03 dude tried lol
    1:10 time for decisionssss (too bad he doesn't have the big ass sword)
    1:20 cool how odisseus is alone but Eurylochus has the crew behind
    1:29 odisseus being a bbg (also I like how he's not fighting right away but just dodging)
    1:32 the reflection on the swoooorrrdddd
    1:51 I like how they actually didn't even fight, dude just got backstabbed lol
    1:56 hate stare right there
    2:02 they bullies

  • @Virrtue
    @Virrtue  Před měsícem +230

    I am a Eurylochus defender through and through

    • @galaxygalay0925
      @galaxygalay0925 Před měsícem +15

      Understandable

    • @spuntymigoo6302
      @spuntymigoo6302 Před měsícem +13

      Willful traitors, all
      -morgott the omen king
      Still liking the video though

    • @foolishfolly-x1u
      @foolishfolly-x1u Před měsícem +11

      FELLOW EURY DEFENDER??? 😭😭😭

    • @astralgirl3352
      @astralgirl3352 Před měsícem +2

      Amen 😏

    • @idkwhattonamemyselfsoyeah
      @idkwhattonamemyselfsoyeah Před měsícem +25

      Yeah, even if Eurylochus hadn't opened the bag, Poseidon would probably have killed them as soon as they reached Ithaca. Ody shouldn't have dozed himself. But still, neither of them were perfect

  • @nomadicfenris755
    @nomadicfenris755 Před měsícem +67

    Eurylochus Hater here, all i'm saying is maaaaaybe he should've held onto that torch
    That aside though wonderful animation, great details and facial expressions on everyone and I kinda love the schnoz's on everyone

    • @luc-i-guess
      @luc-i-guess Před měsícem +18

      I like Eurylochus as a foil character for Odysseus, but he is also the kind of guy who ends up being a huge liability (as we see later when he does something stupid and gets himself and the rest of the crew killed). It was time for him to go.

    • @SquirrelGirl13
      @SquirrelGirl13 Před měsícem +6

      Not to mention, he opened the bag in the first place, AND he was willing to abandon men to being pigs. Like him being self-righteously angry here when just a few sagas ago he was like "lol let's bail on our pig friends and leave them to be eaten" drives me insane.

    • @Dionaerys
      @Dionaerys Před měsícem +16

      @@SquirrelGirl13 Here's the thing though. He said to abandon the men because he believed they couldn't be saved, and he wanted to protect the remaining crew.
      And he was right! Odysseus had no plan. If Hermes hadn't randomly showed up with moly, what exactly would he had accomplished.
      There's also the fact that Odysseus wasn't just accepting the deaths of crew members, but actively tricking them into becoming unwitting sacrifices, giving orders he knew would kill them. Eurylochus never did that.
      That said, Eurylochus is a deeply flawed character who makes lots of dumb decisions, like opening the bag, and killing the bulls, but that's the same as Ody and honestly, Polites. That's just life on Team Ithaca baby!

    • @LunamFlore
      @LunamFlore Před měsícem +3

      @@Dionaerys Exactly! In a way I can understand people wanting to hate on Eurylochus; having big complicated feelings over all these characters can be a lot on one's heart and it's easier to just place most of the blame on him to avoid the emotional mess. But that's not necessarily doing the story or the characters-- even Odysseus-- any justice. We can like these characters, discuss them, love and hate them, but we can't shy away from their disastrous faults. Odysseus may be the main character, and his devotion to see his wife and son is touching and beautiful. But his selfish choices in order to reach that goal are horrifying, ugly, and unfitting of a true captain. Both can be true at the same time.

    • @BlewBerri
      @BlewBerri Před měsícem +5

      @@DionaerysTHANK YOU! This. People always use Ody’s “you’d have done the same” line as defence, especially in reference to Circe. But he sacrificed already dead men to save living ones.
      And Ody’s Scylla sacrifice is even more heartbreaking if you take into account in Different Beast when they’re all chanting “no more of us deceased”. Like they fully believed that they now have the old Ody (“I took 600 men to war and not one of them died there”) back but 10x better being more ruthless to their enemies.
      But no he’s the one leaving them “feeling betrayed”….

  • @randomthepretzel
    @randomthepretzel Před měsícem +3

    HOLY HECK??? OH MY GOSH THE FRAMEWORK AND THE CLEAN LINEART AND THE MOVEMENT IS ALL ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL THANK YOU FOR THIS FINE MEAL 🤲

  • @valmid5069
    @valmid5069 Před měsícem +1

    Eurylochus: (leads a mutiny against Oddie to eat gods cattle to survive)
    Zeus: (loads a thunderbolt) *”…Shame”*

  • @emeliesemeralds2811
    @emeliesemeralds2811 Před měsícem +3

    *chokes on air* EXCUSE ME?!!! WHO GAVE YOU THE RIGHT TO BE THIS INCREDIBLE-

  • @RoshieFlower77
    @RoshieFlower77 Před 23 dny +1

    “SAY SOMETHING!!”
    “I CAN’T!”
    “THEN- wait, you just did tho-“
    “Did I?”
    “Yea..”
    “Oh ok..”

  • @gabrielpelak5366
    @gabrielpelak5366 Před měsícem +3

    Holy fuck this art style is so unique, the designs look so minimalistic and detailed at the same time. Also I like how the more serious a situation the more frames there are

  • @RileyG
    @RileyG Před měsícem +1

    THIS IS. SO COOL. the character acting and micro expressions and body language and movement AJHSJBASJAJ im foaming at the mouth rattling the bars of my enclosure

  • @falconstudios146
    @falconstudios146 Před 7 dny

    What I like is that Odysseus didn't draw his sword until the end, but that his crew stabbed him the SECOND that he did. Like they were giving him the benefit of the doubt - maybe this really was the only way, maybe he really isn't willing to sacrifice us, maybe this was just freak misfortune. Look, even though Eurylochus is coming at him with a sword, he's not fighting back.
    And then he draws his sword and shouts that he will not let Eurylochus get in his way, and all that faith vanishes.

  • @AUCreatoer
    @AUCreatoer Před měsícem +2

    THE EMOTIONS??!?! OMFG THE POSES AND SCENE IS PERFECT.

  • @citriz
    @citriz Před měsícem +1

    Something about the choreography and sense of location on deck just feels satisfying. I love your style, this is so good!

  • @vanillagachaexstract7026
    @vanillagachaexstract7026 Před měsícem +2

    OMG JUST THE BEST THING I'VE SEEN
    This is truly an incredible job and I admire the way you conveyed the emotions of the characters..
    Incredible and simply magical work. You captured my heart and it’s a pity that not the whole song... but I hope for a continuation and subsequent animations
    ❤❤❤❤
    I will pray to the gods that your videos come out as often as possible 😢❤

    • @Virrtue
      @Virrtue  Před měsícem +1

      @@vanillagachaexstract7026 thank youuu😭😭 I’m definitely gonna be working on more Epic animatics!

    • @vanillagachaexstract7026
      @vanillagachaexstract7026 Před měsícem

      @@Virrtue OMG I'M ALREADY CRYING WITH HAPPINESS..LITERALLY
      You are really a very cool artist, and the smoothness of your animation and the way you convey emotions is realy amazing 💞🤌

  • @4sh-
    @4sh- Před měsícem +2

    2:10 HIS WEDDING RING AHHHH

  • @HALYARDEL
    @HALYARDEL Před měsícem +5

    THIS IS SO GOOD! The movement and camera work!!

  • @iggyziggypiggy
    @iggyziggypiggy Před měsícem +1

    your expressions are INCREDIBLE!!! This was beautifully orchestrated, thank you so much

  • @diarm77
    @diarm77 Před měsícem

    The last words you ever hear from your crew being “woOo” is wild

  • @Zephirite.
    @Zephirite. Před měsícem

    1:19 OOH that shot is so cool! Jorge said Eurylochus's instrument is the crew, and with his hand raised, it looks like he's conducting them as he sways them with his words.

  • @yay29823
    @yay29823 Před měsícem +2

    Will you ever do the rest of the song? This is my favorite Mutiny animatic ever! And I love your character facial expressions

    • @Virrtue
      @Virrtue  Před měsícem +1

      @@yay29823 THANK YOUU!! My plan is to do either an animatic or animation for every song in the musical so hopefully I make it back to this one. I just needed to do this after listening to the Thunder Saga. I am so normal about it

  • @infingirl8488
    @infingirl8488 Před měsícem +1

    No way, this is so good!! The facial expressions and body language are so on point!

  • @jelly_biirb6497
    @jelly_biirb6497 Před měsícem

    RAHHHH THIS IS AWESOME, the cleanness in all the drawings and motion is insane, and I LOVE ME SOME CAMERA MOTION AS THEY BEGIN TO FIGHT. You’ve won this time Eurylochus defender.

    • @Virrtue
      @Virrtue  Před měsícem +1

      @@jelly_biirb6497 thank youuu😭😭 till next time Eurylochus anti 🫡

  • @vanguardbreaker8826
    @vanguardbreaker8826 Před měsícem +1

    just me quietly going feral over 1:02

  • @radishearts
    @radishearts Před měsícem

    This is so incredible rewatching this for the millionth time over and over 🙏🙏🙏

  • @lucie_loves_life2413
    @lucie_loves_life2413 Před měsícem

    This was so fluid and cinematic. Everything excelled my wishes for an animatic for this super story heavy song. Thanks for your hard work! I would also ofc love to see the rest of this song 😮❤ only if you want to ofc ❤❤
    Thanks again! This was marvellous

  • @kierenbee4673
    @kierenbee4673 Před měsícem +1

    you have such a unique style and your animatic is so smooth!! amazing job, i'm obsessed!!!

  • @astralgirl3352
    @astralgirl3352 Před měsícem +4

    1:20 is that wedding band that I see ?? Ctimene ?? 👀 👀 👀

    • @Virrtue
      @Virrtue  Před měsícem

      @@astralgirl3352 👀👀

  • @au2330
    @au2330 Před měsícem +1

    ААААА! Это лучше, что я видел за сегодняшний день!
    AHHHH! This is the best I've seen today!

  • @Neonnotecards
    @Neonnotecards Před měsícem

    i love this so much, your art looks SO good. what i wouldn't give for you to animate the whole musical

    • @Virrtue
      @Virrtue  Před měsícem

      @@Neonnotecards that’s what I hope to do! I’ve done this animatic to scratch the lil itch in my brain after the thunder saga, but I’m gonna go back and try to do the whole thing in order! Hope to have my Horse and the Infant animation out by the end of the year! :D

  • @blueorchid4514
    @blueorchid4514 Před měsícem +1

    I love this!! I wish we could see the rest!!

  • @harleypowell5274
    @harleypowell5274 Před měsícem

    This is amazing! Thanks for making and posting this animatic!

  • @lincolnpatience6480
    @lincolnpatience6480 Před měsícem

    1:31 this frame is masterful!

  • @n0rak_o684
    @n0rak_o684 Před 18 dny

    This animatic is so good!! ❤

  • @BenRGamer
    @BenRGamer Před měsícem

    This is a really good animation. For my thoughts, on the choreography, I feel like there should be a hand slamming or punching on the railing at some point before the confrontation just to emphasize the frustration. Maybe when Eury says sacrifice, or possibly some other point.

  • @eternalcrownstudios7961
    @eternalcrownstudios7961 Před měsícem

    This was… really well done. I would really like more from you.❤️

  • @tododokii
    @tododokii Před měsícem

    LOVE THE STORYTELLING WOW :D❤❤❤❤

  • @Icantreadatall
    @Icantreadatall Před měsícem

    Average conversation with me and my brother

  • @wxlfii3479
    @wxlfii3479 Před měsícem +1

    Loved the facial expression here 10/10

  • @visiblehen
    @visiblehen Před měsícem

    this is so good how. the animation is genuinely incredible

  • @DUUFFACE55
    @DUUFFACE55 Před měsícem

    Man, this was so good!

  • @Cheems856
    @Cheems856 Před měsícem

    I see Scylla as the best option, I mean even if they were on open seas Poseidon probably woulda pulled up and killed them

  • @burningmoth
    @burningmoth Před měsícem +2

    Love it

  • @ClawedAsh
    @ClawedAsh Před měsícem +1

    One detail I love is that you can see Eury's ring, if you know who he's married too it makes all of this so much worse

  • @martinavalente6814
    @martinavalente6814 Před měsícem

    This is so good!!!

  • @Crazycae_fan4life
    @Crazycae_fan4life Před měsícem

    Eurolicus be looking funny

  • @EnLen-hf8uz
    @EnLen-hf8uz Před měsícem

    Wow this was so intense

  • @EdenVix
    @EdenVix Před měsícem +2

    Yooo this is amazingly well done!!! Will you animate other songs? Or the rest of this one?

    • @Virrtue
      @Virrtue  Před měsícem +1

      AHHH THANK YOUU!! I am planning on doing other songs! Ideally I want to do the whole musical but I’m gonna see where it takes me! :D

    • @EdenVix
      @EdenVix Před měsícem +1

      @@Virrtue that sounds like a huge task but all power to you! I can't wait to see it!!

  • @joaquinaragon769
    @joaquinaragon769 Před měsícem

    I just wanna say- I'm kinda pissed at his crew. When they said "How are we supposed to trust you now?" Didn't ya'll not stop Eurylochous from opening the bag right? A SIMPLE ORDER don't open the bag!! Yet they no one just went: "Hey maybe we shouldn't do that-"

  • @krishnarenae80
    @krishnarenae80 Před měsícem +5

    I didn’t realize that people disliked Eurylochus?? But y’all will forgive Odysseus for sacrificing his crew-mates (who also had family, wives sons, daughters, etc) Odysseus is not the only one with family. They both did stupid stuff guys. Seriously if you forgive one you gotta forgive the other ☠️

  • @nairav9156
    @nairav9156 Před měsícem

    Eurylochus: Say something!
    Ody: My greed killed 6, your greed killed 500.

  • @jp3711nc1
    @jp3711nc1 Před měsícem

    After whem je did something stupid as captain he backs out now calling ody captain.

  • @bigwave1713
    @bigwave1713 Před měsícem

    I’m loving this animatic, I’m curious do you plan to do the second half of the song?

    • @Virrtue
      @Virrtue  Před měsícem

      @@bigwave1713 nah I only did this to scratch the itch in my brain I got after the thunder saga was released. I do plan on making animatics for the entire musical tho (Hopefully) so if I ever get up to Mutiny then yeah!

  • @Pyre-z
    @Pyre-z Před měsícem

    WHERE'S THE BUMPER SWORD/lh

  • @another_couch_potato
    @another_couch_potato Před měsícem +1

    I was so upset watching this. Not because of the horrible breakup
    But because of the fact that the crew was perfectly fine with eury completely swinging at oddy but the moment oddy pulled out his sword they were like “oh no he didn’t!”

  • @EEVErydayDoodles
    @EEVErydayDoodles Před měsícem

    With this comment, I shall summon MORE VIEWS

  • @bigbadundeaddaddy
    @bigbadundeaddaddy Před měsícem +3

    Masterful, tho i have some things to say:
    1. Jay pictures Eurylochus with a giant sword and shoulder patch
    2. The Noses are a tad to big
    DO NOT TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY, EVEN WITH A LIFETIME TO PREPARE ME, I COULD NEVER DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS EVER EVER EVER EVER.

    • @yay29823
      @yay29823 Před měsícem +1

      I noticed the noses too, but it could be a style choice?

    • @bigbadundeaddaddy
      @bigbadundeaddaddy Před měsícem

      @@yay29823 propably

    • @Virrtue
      @Virrtue  Před měsícem +2

      @@yay29823 definitely a style thing! I like over exaggerating certain facial features sometimes :D though maybe I did over do it a bit in some frames haha

    • @yay29823
      @yay29823 Před měsícem

      @@Virrtue It adds a lot to the characters' faces, I hope you have a lot of fun drawing them