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    The Non-Canon Expert looks at what Darth Vader and the Galactic Empire thought happened to Ahsoka Tano after Order 66.
    This is a Canon story for Darth Vader and Ahsoka Tano with information found within the 2017 Darth Vader comic series, "Star Wars: Lords of the Sith," and "Star Wars: Ahsoka." I hope that you enjoy it!
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  • @Zeknif1
    @Zeknif1 Před 4 lety +391

    What Vader was thinking when he found the lightsaber: “Shit... I never taught her how to crash land correctly.”

  • @phantomsidious2934
    @phantomsidious2934 Před 4 lety +721

    Vader in that final scene realising he has truly lost everything, he's old life finally lost, Anakin Skywalker is now truly dead, and all he has become is a monster, such a tragic ending to the show

    • @phantomsidious2934
      @phantomsidious2934 Před 4 lety +20

      @Hen_plays523 I know, I bet they really struggled with that one since the Disney era star wars is obsessed with nostalgia, this ending shows great originality

    • @crackedupmonk
      @crackedupmonk Před 4 lety +20

      I took it as, “oh what a relief, I don’t have to hunt her down!”

    • @AeneasGemini
      @AeneasGemini Před 4 lety +22

      @@phantomsidious2934 I actually disagree, Vader wasn't ever really a monster, unlike Palpatine I think a part of him always regretted what he became.
      We can see this even in the OT when he tries to tell Luke that it's "too late" for him, to convince Luke not to try to turn him back. It reveals that on some deep level he actually wanted to be good, he'd just convinced himself it wasn't possible anymore.
      Truly monstrous villains never feel regret, Vader was just someone who made a few too many mistakes and had convinced himself redemption was impossible, so he might as well double down

    • @josephmort4039
      @josephmort4039 Před 3 lety +3

      @@AeneasGemini Telling Luke it was "too late for me" was all the proof one needs to know it's not.

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 Před 3 lety +4

      @@AeneasGemini I agree. Palpatine basically needed to keep Vader trapped in a prison of his own self-loathing, hatred and rage, and that rage was fueled by pain. Which is why Palpatine also ensured he was in constant pain from his suit, but also why he made him do what he did and told him he had killed Padme . So he would be in constant mental and psychological anguish over his actions. Like a constant torture.
      So, Palpapatine had to ensure those negative emotions were maintained all the time. He knew that Vader had a conscience, and that he hated what he had done, and knew that his regret and self-loathing could overcome him. I wonder if that's why he basically made it impossible for Vader to kill himself.
      I think that's also why their relationship was underwritten by fear. Any time Vader showed mercy, hesitated or 'failed' he would be punished for it. Usually by being tortured.

  • @PerovNigma
    @PerovNigma Před 4 lety +276

    To me, "The apprentice lives" reads more as confirmation than realisation; he realises that the vision was true, and that he was right to consider it legitimate.

    • @agustinbaletti
      @agustinbaletti Před 4 lety +15

      also, in the Darth Vader comics he sees his encounter with Ahsoka in Malachor and hears the words “it was foretold that you would be here” “then you will die” ... he basically was teased of it in visions so the line “foretold” is now reasonable since the force actually showed him that she would be in the Malachor Temple.

    • @johnhubert8253
      @johnhubert8253 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, vader knew she alive, or at least suspected it, since near the end of the vader comics

    • @thelfoley
      @thelfoley Před 3 lety +7

      @@johnhubert8253 I think he knew she was alive from the time when he found the wreck. He knows it's her ship. He knows someone came back to bury the troops, which means someone survived. And the moment he lights up the saber and finds that it still works, he knows whoever survived had the saber on them -- it didn't go down with the ship. Ahsoka herself is the only person who checks off all those boxes, just by basic deduction.

  • @rvhw3466
    @rvhw3466 Před 4 lety +379

    I really do belive vader carried a bit of regret and remorse for ahsoka, kinda like he did for padme, when ahsoka cuts Vader’s mask and vader says “ahsoka” and has a bit of doubt in his eyes I truly belive that that’s anakin not vader. But once he remembers what he’s become that bit of anakin gets crushed again. Maybe vader was thinking when he found ahsokas light saber “good I don’t have to kill her know”

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 Před 3 lety +24

      I heard somewhere that scene where he fights Ashoka happened like 15 years after Revenge of the Sith. It seems Ezra Bridger was born the same year as Luke and Leia, and he's a teenager here, so it makes sense that a *long* time had passed.
      I do agree with you though. Vader hesitated there when he called Ashoka's name, and he never hesitates. He had more than 'a little bit of regret' over Padme though. The belief he had killed her literally tormented him every waking moment. There's one scene in a comic where someone asks him who or what he hates so much, and he says "myself".
      I actually really hope that if Ashoka is going to be in the Mandalorian series she will meet with Luke, so he can tell her about Vader's redemption and how he did finally bring back Anakin and fulfill the Chosen One prophecy. She could tell him in turn about his mother, and about her time as Anakin's Padawan.

    • @jessepower2783
      @jessepower2783 Před 3 lety +6

      @@englishlady9797 if the mandolorian ashoka is any good i say give her a show. I want to see alot of what happened between return and tfa

    • @TheHolyTreeMan.
      @TheHolyTreeMan. Před 3 lety +7

      Personally I think Ahsoka was very important to Vader. In Rebels Vader hesitates before attacking Ahsoka we she chopped his mask. The only other time he has done that is with Luke.

    • @stevenolveraaa
      @stevenolveraaa Před rokem

      @@englishlady9797 Gosh I would love that. Even if we don’t see it but maybe a ending episode where it’s like they are talking a little and we assume they talk about it. Would bring me so much joy

  • @macwelch8599
    @macwelch8599 Před 4 lety +540

    Poor Vader, he lost everything, his mother, wife, best friend, apprentice, limbs, and his sanity. All of that because of Darth Sidious lying to him all the time

    • @Nelo_Wolf
      @Nelo_Wolf Před 4 lety +23

      You reap what you sow

    • @atigerclaw
      @atigerclaw Před 4 lety +46

      Sidious is pretty much at the heart of everything rotten in the galaxy around that point in time. Nothing and no one was sacrosanct to him. You were either a useful tool, or discarded junk.

    • @Nubin2000
      @Nubin2000 Před 4 lety +26

      Anakin fear of loss and greed for power led him to his fate.

    • @eracer166
      @eracer166 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Nelo_Wolf How?

    • @Nelo_Wolf
      @Nelo_Wolf Před 4 lety +3

      @@eracer166 how? Are you seriously?

  • @RyanTheDark
    @RyanTheDark Před 4 lety +265

    Bet Vader was like this upon finding out her living:
    *I sense something; a presence I've not felt since...*

  • @ariesstorm9577
    @ariesstorm9577 Před 4 lety +206

    “It was foretold that you would be here. Our long awaited meeting has come at last.”

    • @rvhw3466
      @rvhw3466 Před 4 lety +20

      Man that dialogue they have before they fight gets me every time. One of the best conversations in Star Wars

    • @eatfresh5547
      @eatfresh5547 Před 3 lety +11

      "I'm glad I gave you something to look forward to"

    • @eatfresh5547
      @eatfresh5547 Před 3 lety +5

      @Stax 2High "The Emperor will show you mercy if you tell me were the remaining jedi can be found"

    • @garbagecan7847
      @garbagecan7847 Před 3 lety +8

      @@eatfresh5547 “There are no Jedi. You and your Inquisitors have seen to that.”

    • @prettyboyz4859
      @prettyboyz4859 Před 3 lety +6

      @@garbagecan7847 “perhaps this child will confess what you will not”

  • @punishedvenomsnake716
    @punishedvenomsnake716 Před 4 lety +327

    Vader probably thought she was alive but still opted to cross her off the Empire's list of Jedi targets.
    I like to think it was some piece of Anakin that influenced this, to give Ahsoka some measure of peace in the post Order 66 Galaxy. Knowing that if they had to come across each other again, someone would likely die. Love these vids, SW Reading club! :)

    • @Nubin2000
      @Nubin2000 Před 4 lety +20

      Punished "Venom" Snake Filoni said Vader wants Ashoka to die because she represents Anakin Skywalker morals and his past. So he would probably kept her name on it especially after the Mustafar vision.

    • @ahsoka5216
      @ahsoka5216 Před 4 lety +20

      @@Nubin2000 True, but Darth Vader didn't tell Palpatine about his vision of Ahsoka.
      He didn't even find out about Ahsoka surviving Order 66 until season 2 of Rebels which could mean that Darth Vader didn't think Ahsoka was an issue for the Empire to worry about. Maybe this was due to the fact that the last time Anakin saw Ahsoka, she implied that she didn't want to fight in anymore wars because of what it did to the Jedi.
      There are probably other reasons too, but we'll never know them until Dave Filoni gives hints to what they are.

    • @brenster21
      @brenster21 Před 3 lety +8

      Yeah I always figured Vader had a softer spot for Ashoka and if given the choice he would prefer not to deal with her, as meeting her would mean confronting anakin's past and may weaken vader. So Vader would take Ashoka's name of the empire's list given the first opportunity that he had evidence she was dead. Then when she confront him, he offered her a chance to leave twice (sure at the cost of betraying jedi but that is more than most get) and if wasn't for the holocron he might have just let her walk away. Viewing fighting someone that close to anakin's past as much more trouble than it is worth and could truly weaken vader's hold over anakin.

  • @_____Astral_____
    @_____Astral_____ Před 4 lety +166

    Anakin was taken from his mother as a child, given to an inexperienced and grieving master, had few friends since the other younglings didn't like him and was forced into a Galactic scale war. He had little control over his life and Sidious' manipulation only worsened things.

    • @savageclips154
      @savageclips154 Před 3 lety +2

      He wasn't taking he choose to go he could have stayed qui gon gave him the option

    • @cl5470
      @cl5470 Před 2 lety +1

      The only choice Anakin made that was free of anyone else's influence was his decision to save Luke. That is why it set him free at last. He had no plan of betrayal or schemes to take over when he chose to kill Palpatine. He did it because he wanted his son to live. He proved that his love for his family truly was stronger than the greatest powers of the dark side.

  • @MrMisterDerp
    @MrMisterDerp Před 4 lety +85

    Darth Vader was mad the comment section moved, it enraged him more than sand

    • @tannerpena6491
      @tannerpena6491 Před 4 lety +9

      Every time I press the x to get out of comment replies it completely kicks me out of comments and it’s infuriating

    • @tannerpena6491
      @tannerpena6491 Před 3 lety

      @Scp 173 bro shut up it’s been a year

  • @icasabar
    @icasabar Před 4 lety +81

    Wouldn’t Vader question who buried these troopers in a brotherhood-manner, when there were no survivors?

    • @arnoldkearimal
      @arnoldkearimal Před 4 lety +10

      especially since all the helmets were mounted...."where did the survivor / person who buried the troops go?" should have been asked.

    • @roef3984
      @roef3984 Před 4 lety +13

      There was alot of snow, he did"nt see their graves

    • @slaaneshshewhothirst9136
      @slaaneshshewhothirst9136 Před 4 lety +4

      I think with the winter the burial was hidden

    • @BungieStudios
      @BungieStudios Před 3 lety +1

      Definitely not the Jedi they died to kill.

    • @thelfoley
      @thelfoley Před 3 lety +5

      @@roef3984 In the pulled out shot from the side, you can see that some of the stakes with the helmets on them are still visible. Besides which, the chances those probe droids wouldn't have figured out that the bodies were all lined up in neat and tidy little rows is zero.
      But the clincher is, when he tries out her saber, it still works. Which means that not only someone survived the wreck and came back to bury the troops, but they had the saber on them. She's the only one who checks off all those boxes.

  • @sithwarriortank8472
    @sithwarriortank8472 Před 3 lety +19

    When Vader was attacking the Rebel convoy during rebels, he said "So, the apprentice lives." Which to me means that he was surprised that she was alive. Given how deeply the wreck of that Venator was buried in ice and snow, I think it was years after Order 66. I believe that he'd written her off for dead, and caught off guard when she wasn't.
    I also think that it was possible that Ahsoka could possibly have reawakened Anakin if she'd had just a but more time during their "reunion." Though she wasn't of his blood, Anakin definitely looked at her like a daughter, which Obi Wan said could be his undoing.

    • @themarsman5155
      @themarsman5155 Před 2 lety

      @Ahsoka Tano While Rey's relationship to Luke was a undeveloped and not enough screen time with Leia due to Carrie Fisher death it can be said that she found people who didn't care about her bloodline but cared about who she was. Luke says " some things are stronger than blood". Same for Luke Skywalker as well his friends are what pushed him to keep going even after his loss to Vader and was the reason he had try and save them from Vader.

  • @Flynn01979
    @Flynn01979 Před 4 lety +61

    No, when Vader finds Ahsoka's lightsaber far more than a few months have past. For one, the Empire didn't transition to Stromtroopers that quickly. Second, look at the decay of the ship. All of the rust, how faded the paint is on the clone trooper helmets, etc. IMO at least 5 years if not 10 have past. Maybe ever longer than that. But, enough that the Clone Wars have started to become a faded memory.

    • @ahsoka5216
      @ahsoka5216 Před 4 lety +6

      Darth Vader already has his red lightsaber so we could guess the timeline from that. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @tillyhatton1347
      @tillyhatton1347 Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah, the clone troopers were aged out over time.

    • @AutomaticAxe
      @AutomaticAxe Před 4 lety +4

      And the Lambda class transport wasn’t built for quite some time after the clone wars

    • @ahsoka5216
      @ahsoka5216 Před 4 lety +6

      @@AutomaticAxe I'm not sure if this is true, but someone told me that the shuttle transport was made 15 years after ROTS so that would mean the ending scene of TCW is in fact the same time season 2 of Rebels takes place.

    • @jonwar833
      @jonwar833 Před 4 lety +5

      @@ahsoka5216 15 years precisely

  • @chiro1488
    @chiro1488 Před 3 lety +10

    Vader: Chops off inquisitor's arm
    The Grand Inquisitor: What could u possibly teach him by cutting off his arm?
    Vader: Its a Skywalker Tradition

  • @thanatos796
    @thanatos796 Před 4 lety +11

    In Rebels, Rex says he went back to the empire and worked for them for years until clones were phased out for stormtroopers. Seems like he would have said "yep Shot her myself, buried her on that moon with all the dead clones with my own two hands." to take the heat off of her.

  • @lewisdavidson571
    @lewisdavidson571 Před 4 lety +54

    I personally hope this takes place after he ‘killed’ Ahsoka in Rebels. Under the assumption that she is dead, he journeys to a recently discovered wreck from the Clone War era. He arrives to investigate a possible Jedi connection and finds the lightsaber he gave to her, the last time he was her as Anakin. He ignited it for proof, rejecting any and all regret for his actions and looks up. He sees the Owl, one that followed Ahsoka for a long time. He quietly acknowledges what this Owl represents, and realises this implies her survival. A confused moment of happiness and anger crosses him, before deciding it was irrelevant. He takes the Sabre, refusing to inform Palpatine of his suspicion and hopes to never face her again.
    It’s a cold scene of Vader allowing Anakin a moment to grieve after her ‘death.’ But only a moment. Then he crushes Anakin entirely and leaves to investigate an attack on the Death Star Plans.

    • @arctrooperjesse8795
      @arctrooperjesse8795 Před 4 lety +3

      Lewis Davidson that would honestly ruin it for me

    • @Da219StarWarsGuy
      @Da219StarWarsGuy Před 3 lety +1

      Vader seeing Morai confirms to him that she's still alive and likely nearby. We all know if you see Morai, Ahsoka is near.

    • @badrinath5306
      @badrinath5306 Před 3 lety +1

      Morai was someone Ashoka met after mandalore so Vader doesnt know about the little owl. In twilight of the apprentoce he doesnt observe it there. Also moreye seems more reminiscent of a higher force being than a normal bind that follows Ashoka around.

    • @conorrobinson8479
      @conorrobinson8479 Před 3 lety +1

      @@badrinath5306 I’m pretty sure it’s the daughter from the Mortis arc, or sometning along the lines of that, it shares the colour scheme and the daughter (the embodiment of the light side) died during that arc, morai also sounds a little like Mortis, maybe she reincarnated like a force ghost, but as an owl instead.

  • @amcq9214
    @amcq9214 Před 4 lety +34

    Dave Filoni confirms vader is hunting in the final scene of the clone wars n states he is probably hunting ahsoka specifically as they knew she was on that ship and where it crashed so that would be the best place for him to start.i dont think either vader or sidious were ever totally convinced ahsoka was dead

  • @sharpetutor227
    @sharpetutor227 Před 4 lety +75

    I have a question that I can’t seem to find an answered to.
    What was Luminara Unduli reaction to Barriss Offee betrayal to the Jedi order?

    • @alexpena4091
      @alexpena4091 Před 4 lety +9

      I think it would depend on if she was alibe during the trial if she was than she would be beyond pissed at Barriss

    • @ahsoka5216
      @ahsoka5216 Před 4 lety +15

      I guess disappointed and ashamed because you can tell at the beginning of the show Barriss Offee looked up to Luminara for guidance and now she's probably upset that her pupil has fallen so far. Luminara probably blames herself for Barriss' fall as well since she was the one who trained and taught her everything she knows.

    •  Před 3 lety

      @@alexpena4091 she was killed by the Empire, so she was obviously alive lol

    • @DeconstructU2124
      @DeconstructU2124 Před 3 lety

      same

  • @burpethead
    @burpethead Před 4 lety +20

    Ahsoka had two light sabers. My interpretation of Vader finding one of Ahsokas sabers meant it was intentionally left by her so Vader knew she was still out there with the other one. Annakin had improved her sabers in the last few episodes before giving them back to her so I saw it as a gesture from Ahsoka. Also why did Vader need to kill another Jedi for a new saber when all the dead Jedi from Order 66 would have provided like 50+ sabers.

    • @nicklewis470
      @nicklewis470 Před 3 lety +2

      I'm pretty sure it's because it was a test, he needed the crystal from a Jedi that HE killed

    • @DeconstructU2124
      @DeconstructU2124 Před 3 lety

      quote from the comic" a sith saber is not given, it is taken"

  • @skyden24195
    @skyden24195 Před 4 lety +7

    I would say that Vader was tormented most by having to hunt Ahsoka because of their special relationship. It would've been like hunting his little sister or daughter, maybe. So, when Vader finds Ahsoka's saber, it actually gives him a relief and just accepts her death weather he wants to truly believe it or not. The way Vader holds the saber, especially after activating it, make me think of how he held Luke's "new" lightsaber, when the two met on Endor. There's a certain connection which makes me believe Vader wouldn't want to have had to confront her. That's also why he was so pissed when he actually had to face Ahsoka so many years afterwards.

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 Před 3 lety +2

      Even when he starts to fight her, he's basically saying "tell me what I want and the Emperor will spare you". I don't think he was out to kill her until right at the very end, and not until that part where she says she won't leave him.
      The only person he really *wanted* to hunt down and kill was Obi Wan Kenobi for what he did to him on Mustafar.

    • @skyden24195
      @skyden24195 Před 3 lety

      @@englishlady9797 I can totally see that.

  • @jacobalula4658
    @jacobalula4658 Před 3 lety +5

    I would've thought Vader automatically knew, by The Force, what Asoka's status was in terms of her being dead or alive. Anakin and Asoka had a really strong bond like that.

  • @grantshearer5615
    @grantshearer5615 Před 3 lety +1

    3:50 whoever the artist is who gave Vader gleeful happy anime eyes is a legend! It completely changes the mood of the scene 😂

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog Před 4 lety +44

    If you have two lightsabers, leave one behind. If you have one, keep it.

  • @jrokur551
    @jrokur551 Před 4 lety

    Super well done video. Wow, thank you for this!

  • @darthresch952
    @darthresch952 Před 4 lety +33

    You forget, Vader had a vision when he crossed over to the afterlife in his castle after defeating Lord Monin, the ancient Sith. He sees himself fighting Asoka in the Sith Temple. Later in Rebels, when he finally faces Asoka as Vader he says “It was foretold that you (Asoka) would be here. Our long awaited meeting has come at last.” He knew she was alive. The final scene of Clone wars happened most likely during the Galactic Civil War, or just before it. The novel you mention where Vader remembers Asoka, Mace, Padme, and others while crash landing on Ryloth with his master does not say that he thinks of all of them as dead. He refers to ghosts of the past life he had, not so much that all the people of that life are now ghosts. He mentions Obi Wan in that part too, yet we know he still believes Obi Wan to be alive all the way thru Rebels into a New Hope. I read the comics and the novels too. I study them like I did for my history thesis and tons of other research. I usually agree with you, but you are wrong here.

    • @masterqui-gonjinn90
      @masterqui-gonjinn90 Před 4 lety +3

      All I know is that it was after Vader constructed his new lightsaber (the one from the original trilogy)

  • @inspiringer6418
    @inspiringer6418 Před 2 lety +1

    I think he knew she lived, but saw it as an opportunity to report she was dead and make it believable. I mean, he trained her. He knew what she would do to make it look like she was dead. Even in the beginning of their meeting at the sith temple in Rebels he didn't seem intent on immediately killing her. He let her leave Coruscant, and he'd let her leave the jedi kill list too. He didn't have as much animosity towards her as he did Obi Wan. And he knew painfully well the aspects that made Ashoka not a jedi, and she hated the jedi order like him too for some reasons.

  • @LegitLyricVideos
    @LegitLyricVideos Před 4 lety

    Great video my friend. Thanks for uploading it. 👍

  • @r3gret2079
    @r3gret2079 Před 4 lety +4

    Vader for sure knew she was alive and would come, when he met her again he even echoed the words from the vision, "It was foretold you would be here". So obviously he knew wussup.

  • @noakhstrelec8478
    @noakhstrelec8478 Před 4 lety +1

    The second he helped kill Winding he knew there was no going back, but he still carried remorse for everything

  • @christophersandidge8257

    For the "Grand Inquisitor" then. Great video as always. Thanks.

  • @dylanm6335
    @dylanm6335 Před 4 lety +4

    I wonder what the Empire thought happened to Maul... in Season 2 of Rebels the Eight Brother was actively looking for him. Maybe they thought he died and re-emerged like Ahsoka or they knew he was alive after Order 66.

  • @agustinbaletti
    @agustinbaletti Před 4 lety +3

    I think Vader erased the name of Ahsoka from the list of Jedi to hunt.
    Proof: in the Darth Vader comics he sees his encounter with Ahsoka in Malachor and hears the words “it was foretold that you would be here” “then you will die” ... he basically was teased of it in visions so the line “foretold” is now reasonable since the force actually showed him that she would be in the Malachor Temple.

  • @KibuFox
    @KibuFox Před rokem +1

    I think Vader knew, or at least suspected she was still alive, but in a kind of defiance against the Emperor (something he was known for doing from time to time), he allowed her to be crossed off the list as dead. I think his reasoning here is that if she is alive (like he suspects) she would have no love for the Jedi either, as she'd left the temple of her own accord. So she wasn't a "Jedi" any longer. If she did crop up at a later date, then he'd deal with that time when it came, but for now she wasn't someone even really worth bothering with. What's more, it was (in vader's mind) entirely possible that Ahsoka would join him if he could carefully direct their final meeting. However she stayed off the grid so long, and eventually returned to oppose him, and by the time she did appear, he was too far gone anyway.

  • @brianvon76
    @brianvon76 Před 3 lety +1

    He knew she was alive. Who else would bury and marker those clones?

  • @stevennelson489
    @stevennelson489 Před 4 lety +2

    See when I saw the ending I thought at first this was during Empire Strikes back while they were out searching for the Rebel base. Just the snow troopers and the probe droids brought up that thought. And if you look at the wear and tear on the wreckage It's been there a while.

  • @matiaspereyra9375
    @matiaspereyra9375 Před 3 lety +1

    Vader knew that Ashoka had kept one of the 2 sabers that he gave to her. He knew she lived as well having seen the vision of their confrontation at the temple. He kept it a light secret as a way to solemnly let that part of him go

  • @cryojudgement2376
    @cryojudgement2376 Před 4 lety +3

    Havent seen order 66 in so many title in years

  • @Motorhawk2
    @Motorhawk2 Před 4 lety

    The Image at 5:32 reminded me of Judge Death and got me thinking what would a 2000AD, Star Wars cross over be like.

  • @josiahhill8106
    @josiahhill8106 Před rokem

    Can we talk about how cool Vader looks with the blue Lightsaber at 1:03

  • @parkool007
    @parkool007 Před 4 lety +2

    Vader knew she is alive but reported her as dead he wanted to save only one person from his prior life

  • @bobbyvee9950
    @bobbyvee9950 Před 4 lety +1

    When Vader finds the saber the droids and the snow troopers look very much like they do on Hoth during Empire. That made me think it had been a long time after order 66. I wonder if the Emperor might have but Ahsoka on the list just for Vader to see?

  • @mewrobo7522
    @mewrobo7522 Před 3 lety +2

    Maybe Vader had a slight bit of kindness to let Ahsoka go; in Vader's own twisted to help bury him former self.

  • @AztraNine
    @AztraNine Před 3 lety +2

    I want to assume Vader knew she survived that crash. How else would the sticks holding up the helmets be there?

  • @schoolprojects1835
    @schoolprojects1835 Před 4 lety +1

    I liked to think that the final scene with Vader took place after their duel on malachor and he thought he killed her

  • @djdjdijon
    @djdjdijon Před 4 lety

    I think finding the lightsaber is set after Vader spoke to palpy like it’s his search to see if he sensed right

  • @michaelscott4094
    @michaelscott4094 Před 3 lety +1

    Finding the crash had to have been some time though, given the Imperials equipment, uniforms, etc.

  • @nexohoner2515
    @nexohoner2515 Před 4 lety +1

    When vader found ahsokas saber looking at all the ice and frost on everything its hard to believe that any natural weather would form that quick unless their was some massive blizzard which we don't know but based on the amount of frost and snow etc ahsokas saber even looked frozen and semi buried which would lead me to believe with seasons etc in play it could've been about 16 to 24 months so 2 years

  • @anthonyc7635
    @anthonyc7635 Před 4 lety +3

    Vader probably said to Ahsoka “that it was foretold that you would be here,” because he saw this vision of the future.

  • @svenmartin840
    @svenmartin840 Před 2 lety +1

    I would like to say this Ashoka 18 years after the clone wars ended. She lands on the planet Karn. And meets the sisterhood of Karn. Where she also learns. That Anakin or Vader. And Palatine where members and supporters of the cult of Morbis. And she meets the 4th doctor. And from him. She learns that Count Dooku. Taught Davros the creator of the Daleks. Force lighting. And Jedi strengths and weakness. And the empire was defeated easily by the Daleks. With superior fire power,tactics and weaponry.

  • @RedSwallowtail
    @RedSwallowtail Před 3 lety +1

    Little did they know the things I was doing to help the rebellion

  • @ETfilms100
    @ETfilms100 Před 3 lety

    Flood escape bg music lol

  • @OceanAce
    @OceanAce Před 4 lety

    I think that final scene in Clone Wars happens after his discovery of her in Star Wars Rebels. More specifically during the Fifth Brother's meetup with Admiral Konstantine. Vader was away and that inquisitor was in his place. Vader found that lightsaber using the Force, it wasn't a coincidence. He probably sensed that Ahsoka had the fallen inquisitor's light sabers instead of her own.

  • @khodexus4963
    @khodexus4963 Před 3 lety +1

    One aspect you didn't bring up here, the fact that the Empire was aware that Captain Rex survived, as shown in Rebels. So, it's likely that at some point he and Asohka determined he should return to the Empire, perhaps to free other clones, at which point he would have reported the Venator's crash location, which could very well have been what prompted Vader to go there for that epilogue scene.

  • @DanTKD87
    @DanTKD87 Před 4 lety

    Please make a video on the droid 11-4d.

  • @superomegaprimemk2
    @superomegaprimemk2 Před 4 lety

    I suspect Vader upon finding the light saber buried in the snow, likely thought: Where is the other one? Always two a master and a apprentice and I gave her TWO light sabers not one, also he likely wondered, where Rex's helmet was, after all the senior clones always had different helmets to the regluar troops.

  • @kadett75
    @kadett75 Před 4 lety +1

    In my opinion the final scene when Vader and the Imperials find the ship and Ahsoka's lightsaber, is a number of years after Order 66. Why do I say this, well look at how weathered the ship wreckage and the clone helmet we see at the end have become, you can also see that most of the many grave marker posts that Rex and Ashoka had previously set up have collapsed over.

  • @bluearcher1559
    @bluearcher1559 Před 3 lety +1

    Since the empire knew maul had lived, I assume that they thought that ashoka would have given her life fighting him on that venator.

  • @theannualmailman8619
    @theannualmailman8619 Před 4 lety

    1:58 what book is this??

  • @thebipolarbear1
    @thebipolarbear1 Před 4 lety

    I like the end because in they're episode of rebels twilight of the apprentice Vader says it was told that she'd be there

  • @Higsby100
    @Higsby100 Před 3 lety

    Not gunna lie I kinda miss you saying "in this video expose" to start

  • @LawofMoses
    @LawofMoses Před 4 lety +1

    The final scene with Vader would or should take place after Ashoka disappeared when Ezra pulled her through the gate between worlds. After Vader battled Ashoka and she disappeared then maybe he went to look at the wreckage?

  • @rx-0862
    @rx-0862 Před 4 lety +3

    who else wants a series about Vader before A New Hope?

    • @alexswinbank523
      @alexswinbank523 Před 4 lety +2

      Yes! Him hunting down all the Jedi and what asohka does during this time

    • @davidordaz5251
      @davidordaz5251 Před 4 lety +1

      Swinny yes would be really cool to see

  • @mrswanson3531
    @mrswanson3531 Před 4 lety +1

    This was the moment Anakin Skywalker became Heisenberg

  • @DarrelsWonderland
    @DarrelsWonderland Před 4 lety +3

    *The Apprentice Lives*

    • @RyanTheDark
      @RyanTheDark Před 4 lety +2

      AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! *Falls unconsciousness.*

  • @thelfoley
    @thelfoley Před 3 lety +1

    I realize this is a while after the video got posted but I've believed since not long after I saw the video that Vader does _not_ conclude that Ahsoka is dead by finding her lightsaber. The key information is, because it still _works_. There's enough evidence in the scene to indicate that somebody came back and buried the clone troopers' bodies. A few of their helmets can still be seen on stakes near the wreck, although most of them have fallen by this point (including the one he was standing in front of). No doubt the probe droids have enough cadaver-sniffing dog imitation capability that they could indeed determine that the bodies are buried in way too orderly a fashion to have been dispersed by a crash. Which means that somebody, almost certainly a survivor, came back and buried them. He also knows this person never reported back to the Empire after the crash, so it wasn't someone who held loyalty to the New Order. And, of course, the lightsaber works -- which indicates that whoever this survivor, had the saber with them when they survived, and left it here deliberately. If the saber had gone down in the crash, it wouldn't still work; the chances that the forces of going down in a crash of this magnitude wouldn't do at least as much damage to it as any number of other cases where we've seen lightsabers destroyed are remote.
    So... someone survived. This survivor cared enough about the troops to bury them. Didn't report back to the Empire. And had the saber. Vader can know this just by observing the facts in front of him.
    Possible theories: 1. it's a clone trooper who collected the saber, but they wouldn't have taken the trouble to do so, only to leave it here afterwards. They would've kept it. 2. It was Maul, but he wouldn't have given a crud about the troops enough to come back and bury them, he would (and did) just leave and never look back. 3. It was Ahsoka. She's the only one who clearly checks all the boxes.
    As a result, I think Vader knows, or at least strongly suspects, that Ahsoka is alive when he walks away from this scene.

  • @Jemini4228
    @Jemini4228 Před 4 lety

    Venator...wait that's the wreck we explore in Fallen Order. That means Ahsoka and Rex crashed on Zeffo? Probably a continuity error as looks very different but it would be cool if she was there before Cal. Maybe he could find something of hers and pick up her force echo in the sequel. I'd certainly like to see her make an appearance.

  • @sircrimsonwolf7492
    @sircrimsonwolf7492 Před 3 lety

    I think all of us can agree that this Darth Vader looks a lot better than his counter part from the Star Wars Rebels.

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 Před 4 lety

    Did Vader press "Fosh" to pay respects?

  • @darrenfromwales7978
    @darrenfromwales7978 Před 4 lety

    Thanks so much for this. In the future could you explain the timeline of Mandalorian, I am lost as to when it occurs.

  • @crazywhiteboi7747
    @crazywhiteboi7747 Před rokem

    Vader jus like with obi wan had a moment of regret when both cut his mask open but his hate for the jedi for holding him bck takes over

  • @Ethan-qs9no
    @Ethan-qs9no Před 3 lety

    What comic book is this?

  • @kyraptor2521
    @kyraptor2521 Před 3 lety +1

    I think Vader knew ahsoka was alive. She's a survivor. Anikan knew this.

  • @ariesstorm9577
    @ariesstorm9577 Před 4 lety +1

    On another topic, I feel like James Luceno should write a novel that focuses on the Grand Inquisitor. Who he was before the war, how the war changed him and how ultimately he decided to serve the Sith. Was he already a secret servant of Darth Sidious during season 5 of TCW? When was his breaking point? I feel like James Luceno would be the best author to really get into his head.
    Which author would you like to see write a novel about the Grand Inquisitor?

    • @ariesstorm9577
      @ariesstorm9577 Před 4 lety +1

      Abe Tsenoh it could possibly end with his death, perhaps via an epilogue and as he is hanging there, just before he let’s go and falls, he has a moment of regret perhaps? He wanted more but in the end he was still a nameless servant of those more powerful. What had he accomplished that was worth the destruction of the Jedi Order?

  • @GimmieTheJimmie
    @GimmieTheJimmie Před 4 lety +25

    She died. There I saved everyone 11 minutes.

  • @dannyrosabal9176
    @dannyrosabal9176 Před 4 lety

    what happened to the Inquisitors during 4th-6th movies?

  • @melisaappaof944
    @melisaappaof944 Před rokem

    Well given the tales of jedi… the inquisitor knew who she was so def she was still on the list. And after this even Vader prob found her lightsaber

  • @LaGGyXdm
    @LaGGyXdm Před 3 lety +1

    Ending of CW was crazy. 🥺🥺

  • @voudrais69
    @voudrais69 Před 4 lety

    you got the like and comment today, not the grand inquisitor.

  • @maniax7517
    @maniax7517 Před 3 lety +1

    I like to think that Vader knew she was alive, even after he found her lightsaber. Something about Vader believing she is truly dead doesn't sit right with me.

  • @thetruefirelord2248
    @thetruefirelord2248 Před 3 lety

    i was always confused why vader thought she was dead from that scene. he finds a lightsaber inform of a grave site. if a dog tag was found in front of a burial sight I wouldn't think its owner was dead, who buried the bodies? who put the tags (lightsaber) in front of it?
    my only thought is that they found the ship, found the saber and left. not bothering with any recovery efforts, so they did see the graves

  • @johncabaniss1628
    @johncabaniss1628 Před 4 lety

    Will somwone tell me where i can read or buy all the books and comics? The only time i saw any star wars comics in my po dunk town was in the early 80s. I bought returns of the jedi , comic book series. After that i didnt know where to get them, so , if anyone wouldnt mind , i would appriciate info on where i could buy or at least read the books and comics? Thanks in advance

  • @GalvatronStudios
    @GalvatronStudios Před 4 lety

    *reads the title*
    They all thought I ate her for breakfast

  • @johncnorris
    @johncnorris Před 4 lety +1

    I have a hard time buying that Vader wouldn't have immediately tried to find Ahsoka either through the Force or physically.

  • @Hachi501st
    @Hachi501st Před 4 lety

    does anyone know what moon they crash landed on?

  • @nicholasrose8173
    @nicholasrose8173 Před 3 lety

    I feel like that ship would be pretty important because of maul possibly being free and being a rival for Vader

  • @AfshinShahsavarani
    @AfshinShahsavarani Před 4 lety

    What about the clone stormtroopers? Take that into account

  • @tristanlarose6136
    @tristanlarose6136 Před 4 lety +1

    Maybe when he went to get ahsoka lightsaber it was after she died?

  • @robertwlester
    @robertwlester Před 4 lety

    Out of an order of thousands more than a few togruta were likely on the list??
    Or the list was more like the likely to have survived and the unlikely or those believed to be death.
    she was said to be dead.

  • @CiabanItReal
    @CiabanItReal Před 4 lety

    I left a like *for the grand inquisitor*

  • @reginaldtyroneshort
    @reginaldtyroneshort Před 4 lety

    Despite her education at the Jed Temple no one taught her survival skills. You didn’t want any clones to die but she unleashed Maul. You wanted to hide the fact you survived so you memorialize the fallen a sentimental act you alone would do.

  • @chappmonkey1855
    @chappmonkey1855 Před 3 lety

    I just thought something weird but what if Vader when he was going to fight ashoka pulls out her lightsaber the one anakin gave her and started a dialogue with her it probably would let happen but I like to think it would in some other universe

  • @christopheranders6725
    @christopheranders6725 Před 3 lety

    He was never was going after her

  • @kylewarren5268
    @kylewarren5268 Před 4 lety

    I think vader went to the ship with hope that his friend survived

  • @HighLiner15
    @HighLiner15 Před 4 lety

    Vader and his greatest weakness "Visions"..... ☠😈

  • @campionedi1764
    @campionedi1764 Před 4 lety

    For the grand inquisitor!

  • @joer.g8568
    @joer.g8568 Před 4 lety

    What Vader and the emperor thought happened to Maul after order 66?

  • @Samrules888
    @Samrules888 Před 3 lety

    Who else watches for the stinger at the end

  • @matthewconlan3234
    @matthewconlan3234 Před 4 lety

    I think darth vader forgot asoka and has memory lost and forgot about her thinking she died

  • @joecruz9076
    @joecruz9076 Před 2 lety

    Dnt he say " it was for told we would meet again" like maybe he remembered the vision?

  • @wabash1975
    @wabash1975 Před 3 lety

    I still don't understand why the clones attacked Ashoka. It was know to all the troops that she was NOT a Jedi or affiliated with the order. Order 66 was quite specific. The order was not to kill all force wielders, just Jedi/Padawans/younglings. She even made it a point to tell Yoda that she acted as a citizen, not as a Jedi. Kinda hokey if you ask me.