Our Modern World Misunderstands Human Rights - And Mostly Ignores Human Responsibilities
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The redirection onto the children was honestly brilliant and unexpected. Yessir, the way we treat our children is what they will come to expect from the world for the rest of their days. The youth are the reflection of us
I wish children rights were respected and held to such high esteem.
It is the result when toxic core values put the privileged and powerful before all others and all else...even the future. In hunter-gatherer societies children were raised by the entire community and according to the Harvard Center for the Developing Child is it any wonder the hunter-gatherer society is still found to be the optimal form of society within which to rear children?
@@frankstared yes and as a woman..with this feminism children are more neglected more than ever
@@Bb-jm6wx Feminism is merely one axis of human rights advocacy, so imho that is not the problem you are identifying. The problem is generations of economic inequity entrenched by the powerful and privledged, among whom are many women, too. Those powerful/privledged people use divide and conquer stategies to persuade the many that their enemies are one another instead of the very toxic values that inform such systems. Look beyond the smoke and mirrors so that we can all address inequity however and wherever it appears.The present child rearing pattern is part of a system that serves the few at the expense of the many. We can collectively change that.
@@frankstared yes but feminism and these “movements” mass appeal to people to do the wrong things .yes collectively but individually people don’t think they just follow.
@@Bb-jm6wx Noam Chomsky, the most quoted living person, was asked: how do you know what position to take on current events and issues?
Do you know what he said?
He said, 'take the most progressive position possible.'
I agree with Chomsky.
the people in power have no interest in enabling the raising of healthy well adjusted children, in fact quite the opposite.
@@loanicastillo3327 obedient workers, and now sterile and soulless obedient workers with computer implamts to control them.
Dear Daniel, thank you for another thought-provoking video. This time I don’t agree with you and here‘s why:
The knowledge that there is a state or government that helps you when you are in need (and only then) can reduce the degree to which you depend on your family of origin. That alone makes such a state worthwhile to me.
Looking forward to your next video!
Hello, I watched your videos about 1 year ago and you’ve taught me so much. I was able to improve my life with the guidance I received from your videos. I just wanted to say thank you.
I think you make a good point from a purely logical point of view. People do often want the government and others to step in to be their pseudo-parental figure. But on the other hand, there is no other choice because the human population is now so massive. There is really no ability for most people to go out and be independent because humans occupy every last bit of land and own every last resource. As a result it is necessary for all of us to integrate into these large systems composed of millions of humans that treat us like children and direct our thoughts and opinions as if we were children. So for most people their best bet is to hope that their government can save them in some way because that's their only salvation.
In my opinion I don't think there is really any other option. Once you exceed a certain number of humans, new dynamics come into play. The question is then, okay, how do we keep these millions of humans (who are naturally exploitative and envious) from killing each other? One option is to forcefully harvest their tax dollars and give them a large number of services so that they see it as fair trade-off. e.g. you get to control me, but you give me some nice stuff (protection, health care, roads) so I'll allow it. Making it a free-for-all might work for a little while, but pretty soon you can be sure that corporations will be forcing people to work 7 days a week for almost no money.
You also touched on something quite divisive here, judging by a lot of the responses. I give you credit for that. Of course the "correct" attitude in this day and age is that "centralized power is great, and it is necessary that I and others must be controlled for their own benefit." Going against this narrative isn't going to win you a popularity contest, that's for sure. I do think that it's important to talk about alternatives. For example, in an ideal world are these systems necessary? Must there exist this type of power structure? I think because kids all around the world are sent to authoritarian schooling systems from ages 0-18, it ends up influencing their thought processes later in life. They feel as though children must be treated like helpless individuals, and that there must always exist large power structures which corral and control humans, even into adult life. They cannot conceive of a world without some parental figure making sure that people around them say the "correct words" and perform the "correct actions".
It is fundamentally important to consider alternatives to systems that don't work.
Rights versus responsibilities. Some people seem to aggressively assert only their rights, whilst trampling on everyone elses. And some take all the responsibility with little thought as to their own rights. Its a mess.
Yes!
Disappointed to hear a few of your views expressed in this video.
Some people have childhood trauma that has robbed them, at least for now, of the capacity to provide for themselves. In a world without government welfare, this can create a Catch-22 situation where they need to break free from their parents to heal and build the confidence and skills to work, but they need to work for the funds to move out of their parents' place. I will use myself as an example: my parents, consciously or not, discouraged the development of self-sufficiency when I was growing up (one among several traumas they inflicted). The pain of feeling incompetent - the low self-esteem you mentioned - has been one of the hardest things I've ever had to deal with, so much so that for about a year, I chose to be homeless rather than depend on family or government. But if I hadn't eventually come round and decided to go on welfare, allowing a stable environment in which to heal, I'm fairly certain I would not have progressed as far as I have. I'm currently on Step 4 of your "From Trauma to Enlightenment", and so far it has proven a powerful accelerator of my healing. Thank you! I generally find a lot of value in what you post. Keep up the (mostly) great work!
He has openly stated we are parasites. Extrapolate that viewpoint onto this topic and it makes sense.
I’m also disappointed to hear some of his views on this one too.
@@colto2312 Did I? I don't remember ever saying that, or feeling it.
I fear I may have overstated my case in this video, or perhaps stated it in a way that wasn't as clear as I might have otherwise done it. I just rewatched the video and I like more of what I said about the rights of children. I think my error was to not be clear on what I meant by human rights. I think something can be good for people, and perhaps even good for a society in some ways, without it necessarily being a human right.
@@dmackler58 The title of the video is humanity is a virus, and you do not state parasite, but virus. That's my bad, however what it ultimately means for us long term is semantics. You're not wrong, but the way you put the thought is synonymous to the Antinatalism argument, in my opinion. I believe we're capable of so much more, and this will always be my contention with that line of thinking. Here's a fun thought: how many people does it take to put gas in your car, counting feeding and manufacturing along the way?
30 million. Our logistics, as insane as it is, is what makes what we see now possible, and could not be replicated under a different type of top down control. For better and worse. If things are to improve, if homeostasis is to be achieved, we cannot continue to live like this, that much is certain.
Daniel, I really love your work and have followed it for years but this I just can’t get on board with. It seems to not match up with other things you’ve said, especially about healing trauma. How can someone heal trauma if they don’t have food, shelter and healthcare? Surely that will just create even more trauma and dysfunction for individuals and society at large. Why is it only up to the individual to ensure those needs are met?
This hyper individualism goes completely against human nature. We’re a social species that needs community to survive & thrive. I don’t think people are projecting childlike needs onto governments; I know that people are trying to get very real communal needs met from governments because of how fractured and isolated the modern world is.
Humans have been hunter gatherers for most of history, and if you look into hunter gatherer communities you’ll realise how much they value one another and depend on each other for survival. Children are treated wonderfully, poverty doesn’t exist and everyone has a unique role to play within the tribe that allows it to function healthily.
Even expecting parents to raise kids alone is unrealistic. In hunter gatherer tribes the kids are mainly taken care of by elders, while the parents hunt and gather and do other things- but responsibility for children is shared equally by everyone. No two people can completely meet the needs of a child, it’s just not possible.
Also, I think a lot of your work is blinded by your privilege. You’re a white male in the west- there are so many things you just don’t have to battle with that others do. Plenty of people work incredibly hard and still can’t afford basic healthcare, shelter or food. The problem is the violent systems at play, not individual people.
When people are cared for & their needs are met then they’re able to fulfil their responsibilities, and more than that they actually want to! I really don’t understand what value you see in a society that makes people fight for the basic necessities of life...
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You should make content of your own. Really jiving with your comment.
This comment is much better than the video.
Yes, nicely said. I think I didn't express what I was thinking/feeling as well as I might have. My best reply at the moment is that if a parent meets a child's rights then there aren't so many traumas to heal -- and it doesn't become any outside external agency's responsibility to fill in for where the actual parent failed once upon a time.
This is my perspective too.
I was broke and had only parents places to live. It was screwed up so I wanted to leave. I found out that our social system in Austria gives apartments to adults (aged 17 and older). If they lived in there parents house since their childhood and never left.
So I filled all the papers and made all the phone calls. Took me two months or so and I was sitting in my own little apartment. Along with that I got welfare payments. How amazing. Lets take this chance and build something out of it. Things I couldnt even imagine in my dreams!
Edit: I wish I never made this comment, as it doesn't relate to the *actual* message of Daniels video. 😔 Sorry this has nothing to do with what you *said* from *beginning to end*.
@artodisque Right Daniel would be the last person I’d expect this from but, it’s a very deeply entrenched uniquely American disease that even Daniel is not immune from.
Hi No Name. I just rewatched my video and I'm not sure that what you've commented here actually contradicts what I said-or at least what I was trying to say. I think what I was getting at, perhaps clumsily, was that these things that sometimes get given to people, such as that which you described, are not necessarily human rights -- something we are inherently entitled to by name of being human -- however good they are (and however much I might want them myself, or would have at certain times in my life). I think what I was getting at, and I wish I'd said it better, was that the real right of a human being is to be a child who has emotionally healthy parents who can provide a broad base for the child to grow up into healthy adulthood to take care of himself or herself. Past that I'm not sure what exactly is a human right, except perhaps not to be violated by others. I pose this as a question, actually. What exactly are the rights of an adult?
@@RevolutionaryThinking Hmm, I would say that I did not grow up with this point of view and came to it more from travels outside of the western world. Also, I'm not sure I expressed it so well here, in this video.
@@dmackler58 Glad you responded. First of all I agree with the 2nd part of your video the first part not so much and I'll tell you why. Access to education and jobs in America differs for everyone. That access determines the amount of money you will or wont make in your life and it hardly has to do anything with hard work and more with who you know and what class you were born into. Yet, the people on the very very bottom those who are born in soul crushing poverty and who are constantly facing an existential threat of literal annihilation because they can't even pay for food, water, electricity, and shelter let alone expensive or even inexpensive vacation are the ones who are constantly being told "they either aren't working hard enough" or they "just need to pull themselves up from their boot straps" or the dumbest phrase ever uttered in the English language "just get a job".
Now we also have to realize that the job market in America is more of a job casino than a market. You can fill out 500 applications get 5 call backs and out of those 5 call backs get 1 interview and still not have a job. When you ask why you weren't hired they say that they don't have to disclose that information to you. Now by some miracle if you do get hired they can also fire you on a whim and that's called right to work. They didn't like the color of your pants so they just decide ok you're gone. Now let's say you're job hunting for a while after that and your funds are running low and you can't afford a car or even an apartment. Now you don't have a way to get to and from a job site so your chances of getting a job diminish even more. Then you ask people for help and they just say you're lazy, you don't take responsibility for yourself, and you drink and do drugs so that's why you are where you are. All of that not even true!
That's why I think as a country we don't need a safety net we need a floor in a form of a Universal Basic Income (that Andrew Yang suggested) so no one falls beneath it. As terrible as your experiences with your parents were and all the screwed up things they did to you just imagine how much worse it would be if your parents were poor. You could've never got to be a psychologist. You were always struggling to make ends meet. Since you were poor you'd never get to travel so much and be trapped somewhere like a ghetto or a trailer park. With out that financial security and not being able to leave your immediate family because of it I'd doubt you'd have the time to do all that inner work. I also did an interview with someone who was sex trafficked lived in generational poverty and her community hardly even lifted a finger to help her. She got a degree while homeless, learned how to code, even drove all the way to New York from Pennsylvania and didn't get a job and people were just telling her the work owes you nothing and to stop complaining. I respect you and what you do Daniel I'm just bringing in something that could be a blind spot to you.
@@RevolutionaryThinking Interesting -- thanks for sharing this. I agree with a lot of what you say -- and I am also not blind to my privilege and good fortune! (I actually became a social worker, not a psychologist, though.). I've also seen a lot of horrible poverty and its effects, and I think from that perspective the first part of my video was crappy! However, I have also seen so many people in horrible poverty and with so little to give having children again and again with no thought for their children or their children's rights. And no care either. This remains a conundrum for me -- and is part of why I bring up this video, clumsy or otherwise.
Having kids without caring about them are human wrongs.
On this topic I disagree with you, Daniel. I think that the current economic system is a mass manifestation of childhood trauma, and the relationship between a boss or a manager and a worker is essentially a replication of a typical relationship between a parent and a child. A boss/manager abuses and exploits his workers because he himself was abused and exploited by his parents, and most workers accept that because they were accustomed to being abused in their childhoods. Yet you never talk about it! I think that the fact that you seem oblivious to systemic problems (such as the widespread exploitation in neoliberal capitalism and soul-crushing nature of modern work) is the weakest part of your worldview. And yet, it fits so well with what you are talking about family systems. Sick family systems produce sick social and economic systems, how could they not?
Really confused to hear that you don't believe that health insurance should be a right after seeing your critique of the American Healthcare System video earlier. I disagree that government providing this sort of thing makes it into some kind of parental figure. A parent doesn't charge their children money like the government charges its people taxes. People getting things like healthcare from their government isn't them "getting it for free." We pay taxes, we should be getting services in return.
Maybe I didn't state it well in the video, but when I think about it I think access to good healthcare is definitely something I see value in for people. Perhaps I was splitting semantic hairs by saying it's not a human right -- perhaps it is. I guess the point I was really trying to make in the video is that the fundamental human right is for the child to be raised in a non-traumatizing environment. And all other things, all the good things of life, come out of that. And when that is missing from a person's childhood, as it so commonly is, people often start to label all sorts of things as human rights, when I'm not so sure that they are.
OMG, this is so true and profound. This projection of childhood needs onto the government. Great video!
We don’t have rights. Rights don’t get taken. We have privileges.
I don't agree with you on this one. People don't just magically end up in situations like this. Sometimes, they genuinely need external help.
Edit - A lot of people don't have the financial liberty or the kind of childhood or the environment in which they can flourish and take responsibility even if they would love to do it.
On the other side of the coin, I've seen firsthand many people languish for years and years on money they didn't earn. It's a slow, sad decay.
@@johndevor5498 These services should be provided with necessary conditions and limitations, definitely.
I agree. I think I could have made this video better! Perhaps I'll try to express my ideas on this more clearly down the road.
@@dmackler58 Hi, I loved a lot of your other videos. Especially the critique of mental health professionals. I, myself, have suffered a lot from the hands of a few psychotherapists.
And I totally agree with the second part of this video. Thank you for your sincere work.
Edit - corrected spelling errors.
@@johndevor5498 Many people inherit money. That is money they did not earn. This makes them possible to, for example, invest so that they can accumulate more wealth they never earned. Also there are lots of jobs where salaries are so low that the labour could be considered a form of charity on the part of the workers, donated to their employers and people they serve.
It takes a village to raise a child. And since most of us don't live in the kind of village where thereis a strong community to help the parents out anymore, I think it's necessary for the goverment to step in and become the new "village". Even the the best parents cannot do it all alone. It's not disempowering to get help every once in a while.
We all sure do live in villages, literally. Have you ever heard of the word “neighborhood”?
@@loanicastillo3327 1 person isn’t a a village maam ..... friends, neighbors... like wow
@@doberchic yea clearly those messages aren’t true and don’t have you best interested at heart. Western feminism failed XXs and I am waiting for them to notice.
@@loanicastillo3327 society doesn’t need to value you reading at home... that’s the problem, everyone is doing what they think everyone else wants of them rather than taking care of themselves
I have to disagree on this one. The charter of human rights does not diminish the value of work and personal responsibility. There are many people on this earth that work very hard and yet are not paid a fair wage to pay for the basic necessities of life. The point of the charter is to protect the returns to the individual and workers for their work effort, as well as to provide a basic standard of living for those who cannot find or sustain work. In reality, this is an aspirational document and there's no country in the world that gives everything for "free". Also, while I agree that the protection of the family unit is based on a culture and social value judgment, the protection of children and their rights is covered in a separate charter. Yes, hard work is empowering. But human suffering is not.
But a lot of what contributes to messed up parenting are material deficits--poverty, poor education. Ronald Reagan closed state mental hospitals (though their effectiveness is definitely debatable) which signaled that the state isn't going to help. It's absolutely correct that kids have a right to a good childhood, but we won't get there until the depredations of exploitative capitalism are reined in. western Europe has partially figured this out with good parental leave, less working hours, but America, birthplace of bootstrapping, has a long way to go.
You are making the United Nations look like fools. Great work.
I 100% agree with what you have to say here. It's really sad that children are often left out of the equation in terms of having rights. Children are people too and they deserve to have their voices heard and their needs met.
On the one hand, you say adults should not be entitled to health care, employment that is just and respects human dignity, rest & leisure, reasonable protection of working hours, paid holidays, and an adequately healthy standard of living for themselves and their family.
Then, on the other hand, the rights you declare that children ought to have are, by and large, demands of higher expectations of parents and on society (which necessarily includes government).
How is it that parents are supposed to meet these higher expectations of responsibilities to promote a healthy upbringing for their children when they have to expend time and energy for the things you state they should "earn" and not be entitled to? This argument actually makes the rights you think children ought to have more difficult to actualize.
I do agree that there are too many people reproducing who ought not reproduce. But to lay the onus squarely on the individual and not take into account the systems they are suffused with seems like a truncated point of view.
I think Daniel is experiencing a mild case of cognitive dissonance.
Or I've opened up an internal conundrum for which I don't have a clear answer and never heard one that satisfied me.
I find this to be a perplexing and rather disappointing exposition.
Human rights mitigate the toxic effects of inequitable societies and I find far too many people still mistake privilege for merit, though I have some serious criticisms even for merit. This is because merit refuses to acknowledge the vast differences in access to resources that the privileged have over others, yet they then have the audacity to consider their success to be based on merit. Ridiculous hubris at work once again.
To suggest that societies that attempt to mitigate the corrosive effects of entrenched inequity makes their citizens "soft" I find to be the language of victim-blaming and shaming but, then again, do not wonder at where it comes from. Healing from trauma and being well is not linear; we have periods of wellness and then moments of regression. This is where equitable and healthy environments can help in grounding us, if we have such environments, which as Erich Fromm taught us, western society does not.
The key is that while we may attempt to be mindful and aware, neither of which, let alone equity and loving-kindness, is really facilitated in our very sick societies. How sick? The 26 richest people own as much as the poorest half of the entire global population-obviously there should be no further discussion of privilege-I mean merit-until there is far more equity in practice. So in my experience those UN human rights are only distasteful to those who reify or want to reify society being defined by privilege.
If you had seen how ordinary slavery and serfdom used to be you wouldn't object to the human rights. The advantages clearly outweigh the disadvantage s.
in midevil Europe we worked 8 months a year.
This is one take I don't agree with you on. But I appreciate your sincerity.
Thanks. I just watched it again and I think it came out a bit messy. I'm planning on leaving it up, but I might take another try at it at some point.
if we don't give adults those human rights of shelter, work, etc, then it's highly unlikely the parents will be able to provide the child's rights - the alternative, it seems from your description, is to have a government cap on child rearing, which is a whole can of worms in itself!
i like the idea of children's rights, but if adults have to struggle to achieve normalcy then they might not be able to be good parents.
@@loanicastillo3327 Yes he doesn’t see this blind spot. I’m really wondering if Daniel would feel the same if he was born in the projects or a trailer park with parents addicted to cocaine meth etc.
@@RevolutionaryThinking I must confess that I would not have managed to survive my toxic parents if I had not been born into a middle-class family who supported my studies (not so much from love but because it was expected of them) and if my country (in Northern Europe) did not have a relatively strong social safety net. I was very traumatized and had to fight a lot to get therapy and be able to work. It would not have been possible without my parents´ financial support and our tax-funded social & health care system. In USA I would probably be homeless and on disability pension now.
I want to work, pay taxes and help keep our welfare society strong. It is not a perfect system, actually it is very faulty in many ways, but it is much better than nothing if you are not born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
Working for a giant international pharmaceutical company in HQ as a middle manager for two years, I can tell you that the conditions of employment are basically the same as a slave at a ship-breaking yard in India:
- routinely working six days a week, often seven.
- you are on-call outside of working hours (evenings/weekends/holidays).
- you can be recalled from a family holiday, with tacit threat of sacking.
- you are not expected to take your statutory holiday allowance.
Of course, they stuff gold down your throat, but they own your life. This is the job for which I sacrificed years and years of education, training, delayed gratification, etc. to get.
The ultimate tyrany in society is not control by martial law. It is control by psychological manipulation of consciousness, through which reality is defined. So that those who exist in it do not even realize they are in prison. ~ Barbara Marciniak
@@lextor4712 Great comment.
The first chains I broke were those of religion. The second chains were social expectations. I do not dare to think I am still free. What other invisible chains have I yet to break?
I believe you are deturping what it really means. All those things listed are support systems that exist in European countries when there is the need. Actually you need to present proof to have access to those things and these are for limited time. You'd have to know the laws before saying anything because it prevents people to suddenly fall into horrible situations suddenly because some family or financial crisis occurs. Things like free health care exist it's not a myth. Anyways no one is giving giving giving anyone anything without effort here. Just because a country has better structure due to hmm I dunno it's 1000 years of actual existence and experience than yours doesn't mean it's a bad structure. It's just a different reality from the USA reality. Sometimes it's hard to accept that other constructs exist.
Right I much rather I be born in a place like Europe especially Scandinavia than a dump like the United States.
I agree. I live in Scandinavia.
@@jolandak8556 cool which country?
@@RevolutionaryThinking Finland. Thanks for asking:)
Although I am sure the USA is a fantastic place to live in in many respects, I would not like to live in a country where there is no decent social security system. I know from my own experience what poverty means in my country (yes, it exists here too) and it is a terrifying thought what it can be without the relative scarce benefits we have.
So then only rich parents can have children. More fair to give everyone better rights to work and less opportunity to be exploited.
It's also a more realistic way of achieving parents with more energy and time for their kids. I think also access to good mental health care and more work on to normalising becoming mentally healthy.
I think it's not coddling people (though the government shouldn't have to top up people's wages, companies should pay decent wages)
It's getting a fair share out of a system where there's trillionaires, and then the rest of us. Exploiting peoples labour. There's only weekends and holiday because people have fought for laws like this.
Hmm, I've certainly seen a lot of horrid rich parents, and some pretty decent parents who are by no means rich. All things considered, though, I'd say the average parent, rich or poor, is not very good at all... by the way, about the coddling part, I think I might have overstated my case in this video. wish I could have a do-over!!
I was blessed to have so much nature in my, back in the70's us kids were turned loose to the woods where I live. Mom rang the bell when it was lunch or suppertime and I would head home. It was peaceful, observing learning from nature...............
I also feel lucky to have been able to play outside as a kid
I have watched you for a long time and I am genuinely shocked that you think people should have to fight to acquire the resources they need to live. Honestly I thought you would be one of the last people to believe in such a cruel conservative idea. We have enough resources for everyone and the technology to provide for everyone. Right now we produce enough food to feed 10 billion people and we have a global population of 7 billion. Every death from starvation is unnecessary. Its the same story with homelessness.
People inherit money so you argument is only the poor should have to compete for resources. We should supply everyone with the basics to live. So much human misery is caused due to the fact that people born with nothing have to sell themselves to those born with everything. From watching your content I know you are nice person so it scary to think that you believe in the narrative pushed out by the haves to convince the have not's that they deserve nothing.
Also the government and the citizen should be one and the same in the sense that we should all participate in the running of our country.
Hi A -- I don't think I did my best with this video. I opened up a topic and questions that I don't yet have the best answers to, and I think my presentation here expressed some of that messiness. For instance, yes, we humans presently have the capacity to feed billions of humans -- at the expense of the natural world, of the ecosystems of the world, of the oceans and of so many animals. I guess I wonder what happens to the rights of nature. Of the natural world... I think we humans as a species have so violated the planet and violated our children that questions of adult human rights have become very confused. And I waded into this subject rather messily!! And perhaps with too much confidence.
@@dmackler58 Hello Daniel - I can understand that perspective although I think the source of the problem of our natural world being destroyed is the sole pursuit of profit over all else. I agree that factory farming etc is disgusting but only a small minority of people make the business decisions, the majority of us are just workers doing what we are told for a pay check. The fact that the majority of peoples (workers) access to the resources they need to live are determined by their obedience to another human is worrying in my opinion and puts workers in a vulnerable position. So I think the more rights for the vulnerable the better.
If I am going to be honest, I assume that you do not religiously follow politics. I think you are very kind, articulate and knowledgeable in your field and analysis of life. The USA seems like a very conservative society. It was jarring to hear someone who I believe has the least conservative attitudes recite the same attitudes that I could hear a Fox News panellist state. I assume that if you live in a conservative society then you will absorb the conservative attitudes through osmosis basically and that is what I believe happened here.
No, pretty much I don't follow politics that closely -- and I think I've watched Fox News (and shows of that ilk) for a grand total of about fifteen minutes of my life. However, I think with corporate greed or without it, there's no way for 8 billion human being to live sustainably on this planet. Of course, corporate greed makes it a lot worse.
I don´t think Daniel meant it quite that way... but I am a little bit shocked too!
... but please don´t start walking on eggshells in your videos because of these comments, Daniel. It is always a pleasure to listen to you!:)
In the US, people do work hard and sacrifice but that doesn’t mean they can afford medical care or even housing and food. It isn’t my job to cater to these systems or insurance companies to be your definition of empowered. It’s a bit hard to swallow that in your perception that the striving for universal coverage is a bunch of children displacing their unmet needs onto the government. If so, so be it. It doesn’t change the fact that people need life saving surgeries, sustenance and shelter. There is too much abundance and wealth in this country to justify all of the suffering. Further, the government takes from we the people. It is not a one way street. Is the government projecting its childhood issues onto us?
Daniel, tell us how empowered you feel after you've worked 7 days a week without enough compensation to go to the doctor or pay your electricity bill, in a job where one injury can mean termination and homelessness. These rights are meant to protect people from corporations, and yours is nothing but the naive view of the educated professional class.
soon, comrade
@@fghfghsrtsrthsrthsrt5968 the perpetual irony to me is that the other political tangent wants the same exact things, just worded different
Exactly.
@@colto2312 Democracy is fragile, but worth defending.
@@jolandak8556 it'd be nice if we still had one
yup, this one video i disagree with you.
1st, yeah people should earn their money and feel empowered they are independent, but not every person's situation allows that, sometimes people need a little help, to integrate them well into society.
2nd, u didn't like the government messing with people's finances and education, but you want them messing up with the family system? how can u be sure the government will be better then parents? that's alot of power. how will the government make sure you have friends, a nice place to live, loving parents? i not saying what i agree with, just that you want government to mess with the family but not help people who may not be able to have an education, maybe people who ran away from home...
for me government should help with both. should help children have a nice, happy childhood, and help people get jobs and education. of course, with limitations.
Exactly he missed the boat on this one.
Hi Gonçalo. I don't think I said in any way that I
@@dmackler58 but I understand where you are coming from
@@dmackler58 I think this comment didn't post all the way. CZcams glitch?
Amen on not having children if you can't responsibly care for your children's needs. Me and a dude from church debated this a little and he said, "God said go forth and multiply and he'll provide." F' that! We were given a brain to use and we should use it. You shouldn't just procreate cuz...being no better than an unconscious cow and monkey.
Even if you don’t have these human rights,the government can also be your parents, an exploiting, controlling and brainwashing parents. 3:17
The fundamental axiom that the UN is propped on is that countries exist, that countries must exist. That each country has a monopoly on violence and the use of force on their "citizens" within their geographical location. I disagree with that axiom, so forth I disagree with whatever the UN declares itself as, hence why I will disregard whatever it is that this UN says.
I wonder why they don't say that each person has a human right; to be born debt free, to be born outside of a country, to not be stolen from, to have rights to their property, to claim what they make, to have control over what goes inside their bodies, bodily sovereignty, to be able to say no, to say no, to have no other entity outside of yourself having a higher claim over your own life, to exist without having an entity that has the monopolistic right to steal your time/ energy/ savings/ earnings/ property/ and life.
I wonder why. The un is trash, treat it as such.
Yes, wouldn't it be wonderful if children were respected. Though sometimes difficulties in childhood can shape an individual in important and positive ways - empathy, resiliency, persistence... For example, having grown up with very little money, I'm glad to not be materially oriented. Where as seeing young people in very wealthy circumstances seems to insulate and create a lack of empathy many times.
It's also important for children to develop a healthy work ethic.
Daniel, when you look inward and into childhood you are full of brilliant insight, and thank you for that. When you do these little hot takes on larger human systems, it seems like you can't get past this sort of scolding libertarian moralism that is, if you could step back and see the bigger picture for a moment, totally incompatible with the betterment you espouse. Do you think people just somehow ascend into situations in which they can be fully present parents? Do you believe that everyone who's had children chose to? This is magical thinking.
darn, I just wrote a whole reply and it didn't post!! so I'll try again. thanks for your comment. I think I could have stated some of my ideas here in a better way, and with more an acknowledgement of some of life's shades of gray. I like some of this video a lot, some less so. I've been thinking about it and one thing that just came to my mind is that the subject of human rights is an inherently moral issue. I've been called moralistic before for addressing moral issues. sometimes those accusations may have been correct (and you might be correct here), but other times I feel that it was just an accusation by people who had a different take on the moral issue. I plan on leaving this video up (maybe it'll spark some good thoughts or discussion, and also it's a chance for me to learn) but I would like to see if I can someday remake this video and better express my point of view -- especially because I think there is some good stuff here.
Beautifully said.
Daniel, you're close but your enshrining of individualism is making you drift into cruelty. Yes, our government is bad and uses welfare to control people, that's a valuable insight. But that's because our government is controlled by a minority with a vested interest in exploitation. And they have an interest in exploitation because of capitalism. What we need is rights with duties and duties with rights. So a duty to take care of the environment, to engage in useful work. A right to a clean environment, a right to decent working conditions. Responsibilities and rights go hand in hand and it is capitalism which is run by a class of people who have all the rights but none of the duties is why these things get seperated. The solution isn't to take away rights, but to abolish the class of people without duties. We have 6 empty houses for every homeless person in the US. There's no need to take away more from people. We need governance not because people are smarter, but because it's like looking at a forest from a mountaintop- you get a different perspective than when you're in the trees. We need people in the mountains and the forest and we need to make sure that someone on the mountaintop governing has the same salary as the person in the forest so there's an understanding of equality.
Very thought provoking as well as all the comments. I think that our exponential population growth, coupled with finite resources both nationally and globally, CREATES a lot of these evils/ dysfunctions due to people having to compete for limited resources. The best of any imagined government cannot begin to heal the psychological sickness / traumas within families with external limits to survival which cause some of the greed, hoarding of wealth, lands, etc.
did you missed United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child????
I was wondering the same thing, lol. Seems like a weird oversight, especially considering the United States is the only country in the world never to have ratified this convention.
Thanks -- I just looked it up and read it! Some good stuff there. I don't get the sense they really have any intention of enforcing it, though, whatever "enforce" might mean...
Hi Daniel, I feel differently, but I also follow you on this and I'd like to hear more. Could you elaborate on how your views would be implemented into our modern day society? I think the government can certainly help make fundamental resources accessible and I think, when this is taken care of, then people will have more opportunity and support to become upstanding citizens, rather than having to worry about basic necessities in their daily lives.
In a sense I agree with you -- at least in many cases. I also have seen a lot of situations though where parents have so failed their children that when the children grow up they are so wounded that it's almost like no amount of help -- at least conventional help -- makes that much of a difference. Meanwhile, I often don't know how to implement better ways to insure that parents do a better job respecting the rights of their children. I made a video recently about a "license to procreate," and I shared my ambivalence about it. I just have never been comfortable with governmental control. I have seen some very helpful and wonderful governmental social programs, though. And even made documentaries about them. But I guess what I tried to share here (and probably didn't share so well) is that I'm not sure such programs are exactly a human right... Greetings!
@@dmackler58 I grew up in a lower socioeconomic household so I have an appreciation for government programs helping families like mine. I do wish there was more assistance with mental health, as there is with medical, dental etc. I'm partial to 'government control' because of this, as I see the good in it. But as I grow older, I can understand the more libertarian approach, or having the belief that government should have very minimal interference in society. Of course, this would be ideal if majority of people were good, and I like to believe that people are generally good, but as I've said in another comment, hurt people hurt people. And I suppose my fear is that, without government, without high level control and consequences being enforced, more people will hurt and get away with it. And that may lead to a net negative for humanity, despite the good intentions of a 'free' philosophy.
@@miss2slick Excessive control and monitoring of people's lives can lead to backlashes, entitlement, lifelong dependency and violence. If the government should provide anything, it is private land, work ethic and survival skills to it's citizens in need, if their families fail to do so (which most generally do). I'm sure you know the saying, "
“If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.” The state cannot use it's resources to really help people in mental pain if it's busy giving handouts instead of labor skills and therapists who are trauma informed. We need more self respecting, self reliant and self confident people, and less resentful, suicidal, abandoned and mentally ill people in this sad, depressing world, and from what I've seen, the people in my family used the government to essentially "raise" their kids and take care of them (the parents needs too), because they were too fragile, frightened, childish, self pitying and irresponsible to love, educate and equip their own kids for a healthy future. They projected all of their failures, inadequacies, lack of social skills and self hate onto my older sister, my older brother and me, and then when the kids grew up in pain, resentful and bitter, she then used the same government weapon to lock me up in a mental hospital for calling them disgusting, self absorbed weasels and telling them all they cared about was going to night clubs, reminding us how "less than" we are than others and forcing us to sit with them and pity their past (that we owed our mother, for example, for what other men did to her when she was younger), instead of worry about our prospects as her own offspring. I noticed there is a kind of homicidal contempt in people who rely on government. They direct that hatred and sense of insecurity (from being unable to raise their kids and care for themselves properly) onto their own children, and strangers in general. The government's primary job is to collect and distribute taxes, defend borders, compile votes, elect representatives, Senators and Presidents based on those votes. Not play Federal nanny and clean up the mess of Idiots who couldn't fix their situation before they popped children out in selfish desperation to obtain benefits and use the boy or girl as a bargaining chip for their own advancement.
Child Protection services, Public Schools, Juvenile courts and law enforcement agencies can be used for good or for Ill, depending on the circumstances. More often than not, schools are used to break childrens spirits and force feed them reading, writing and math in an environment of fear, bullying, violence, hatred and braindead textbook parroting to appease youth-hating teachers who care mainly about their paychecks and their self image, not kids futures. Police are often used to silence, browbeat, "regulate" and attack the very children whose childhoods were preempted and wasted by abuse in the first place.
Everybody deserves basic necessities in life, and once those needs are met, every child deserves to be taught the skills to earn and maintain a roof over their head, food in their bellies and a community that actually gives a flying f**k about their physical and emotional well being. State institutions care about their profit quotas and the influence they have over your life, not really about seeing it's citizens thrive, trust, communicate with, inspire and strengthen each other. The government is not a crutch for cowards who fail their kids and hate themselves, it is a tool to keep checks and balances on tyranny and to maintain a military, and if we think it should replace tribe, village, town, neighborhood, family or community, then we get what we deserve: Tyranny, lack of community, destruction of the family, social division and hostility. That's what trusting the government to be our surrogate daddy has done to America, in my eyes. Just my opinion, other people have more positive experiences with these overbearing agencies I'm sure. Humanity deserves healthy, involved and present parents and an education that teaches kids how to apply knowledge, not just repeat sounds all day at a desk. Those two things would be a huge net positive for humanity. Give people those two things, then they wouldn't grow up into dysfunctional failures that need handouts and constant pity.
I totally agree with you. I love your list of actual healthy rights. Another important piece is that in that "universal" control matrix the "parent" has rationale to control the "child's" thoughts and choices. The opposite of the Declaration Of Independence, i might add.
People can be in powerless positions at any age, people may have no choice but to work in inhumane conditions to provide for themselves. This sounds a bit arbitrary.
It's a political topic. The issue is that workers are always at the risk of being exploited by capitalists, so the government (supposedly democratically elected) has to step in and protect their rights. You can't do jack on individuals level. In reality tho, most givernments side with big business and together opress workers (i.e. break worker strikes e.t.c.)
100% agree
I really love your work too Daniel and TLDR version overall agree with part 2 (on children’s rights) you have a unique (and it should be more normal in this world) deep empathy for children and voice on this; I disagree with much of part 1 though you bring up some interesting provocative points that i think are useful to reflect on and want to rewatch this again and really consider it 🤔😌 even though i *know* I’ll have disagreements! Thanks for posting this video and sharing your ideas here
I'm about to watch this video again and consider (or reconsider) it myself!
Maybe you could have discussed the rights of the child which also exist. The first part of the video felt so conservative and traditional. And also maybe a bit contradictory. The government is not an external entity. It's the reflection of an agreement. Or should be, at least.
Thanks for the video - it definitely is thought provoking. In a perfect world, your perspective is ideal, however, the world is perfectly imperfect and the variation and intersections of race, creed, class, identity, gender, religion, politics, war, etc...results in a spectrum of the haves and have nots. To ensure that the least privileged among us are protected from societal inequities, maybe it’s the government’s responsibility to ensure that basic needs are met - food, shelter, safety, education, affordable healthcare, safe neighborhoods and communities, including providing services and opportunities to sustain agency and the “pursuit of happiness.” How do you expect children enjoy their rights if their parents and adults are stuck in some inter- generational trauma holding pattern while messages from society tell them that they need to figure it out for themselves? What could communities look like of actual taxpayer dollars went toward ensuring families’ biopsychosocial needs are met? Hopefully a safer, kinder, less scary and more interesting place.
This sounds half baked and very personal, not a reflection of the general public
yes, perhaps not my best video!
@@dmackler58 good thing you’re a human and don’t have to be perfectly right every time ☺️
Yes, I can be a harsh critic of myself, but sometimes I put out videos that I'm not 100% sure about, and I can learn a lot from the responses. I usually don't put up such videos, though, especially if I just happen to be in a randomly odd mood when I make them and find that they don't represent a larger side of my point of view.
One thing I just thought of is that I agree with the rights and protection of children, and that we need not to have children because it is a 'social expectation', but with the intent of raising an upstanding citizen and ensuring we have the financial/mental stability to do so.... but also remember that Everyone was, at one point, a child. & To 'deprive' adults/parents of these fundamental rights is, in a sense, depriving children, too. One saying I always come back to is 'hurt people hurt people'. It forces me to acknowledge that there is a deeply intertwined web of pain within humanity and reminds me to have more grace and understanding.
This is exactly my statement in my Bachelor degree in law.. Thesis that has been considered psycho-giuridic.
I wrote this in 1998 in a society where the family culturally is considered like a cult.
But in 2018, when i had my psychological breakthrough from the narcissist family environment and i understood how that nasty psychological virus works, I also understood that mines couldnt have figured out this all by their own in a time with no internet shared information, in a time where no one but some rare professional knew about narcissiam, a time where no one where addressing the need to do inner work and heal our trauma not only of the past but also of each every day.
If our parents havent been taught these things as well our grand parents, how can a state/Government know about and make a Right of it? As Civil lawyer I stated your concept and worked in Family law exactly for what you are saying now, but as psychologically awaken person now that i know I gave to say WE ARE THE BREAKTHROUGH GENERATIONS, UP TO US TO CREATE AND SpREAD A NEW CULTURE THAT TOMORROW COULD BECAME A RIGHT..
BUT HOW WE CAN BE SURE TO Achieve THIS GOAL? How much time have we?
Well said!!! Thank you.
People, it's quite extreme to say Daniel has an American "disease" because he is expressing thoughts that seem to not fit your worldview. We're living through an intense time but... do the work please. Please.
Well he doesn’t have the experiences of extreme inequality but, that’s ok because he took our criticism and suggestions into account. People with the American disease don’t do that so he doesn’t have it 👍
5:05 reminds me of a time I had to read an excerpt for history class about how children worked in factories during the industrial revolution, and something clicked and I remember thinking "wow, children really did not have rights" then realizing "wow, a lot of children still do not have rights today" so ever since then I've found this topic interesting because it seems like children can be the most vulnerable and overlooked members of our society. Also I had not thought of the government as taking a parental role when they are required to help us with living expenses, very interesting.
Thanks for the video Daniel. I agree with what you said. I wonder if you can share about which countries in your opinion have less social security and people there have more self respect. I have some idea which these can be, but wonder which they are in your experience travelling.
Agree with you 100%.
More democracy!
Makes sense
I agree. I don't like the idea that parents are not expected to raise their kids, I don't like the government raising children, they do a terrible job for most social services, including health care. Once you teach someone to take care of themselves, it makes them proud of their work and less afraid because they can rely on themselves as opposed to the good nature of others.
Oh, I have to comment on this! Because I adhere to the philosophy of voluntaryism, I have studied the topic of what a “right “ actually is for many years and it can be defined quite simply as: Any action or behavior that does not require the labor of others, and does not bring harm to others. The UN is creepy as hell!
Telling people to take personal responsibility is not usually popular. Another great video, Daniel.
I love your insights a lot, they‘ve helped me out a lot, and for that I am very thankful for everything you do on this channel!!! This time though, I personally don’t agree with your thoughts. It is our responsibility, of course, to do the best we can to our abilities, to grow and take care of ourselves! But don’t forget about people(adults) with disabilities(mental, physical), kids who grow up in extreme poverty. Communism is an utopia for sure, but finding somewhere a middle ground in which those luckier in our society help out those in an unfavorable situation (for the bare minimum and nothing more) I think should be a human right. Because probability shouldn’t favor only its „good hits“. It’s our collective responsibility in a way to take care of the unlucky ones, because without them mathematically we wouldn’t be in a highly favorable position. God plays dice. We just got the good shot because they got the awful one.
You shouldn’t forget that despite horrible emotional conditions growing up(which is still very painful and hard to deal with) you are despite that, still one of the lucky ones on this planet: you’re healthy, trully highly intelligent, insightful, grew up in one of the best countries with english as your mother tongue, and you are good-looking(very important unfortunately in our world). Imagine how many people had a lot less chance in life to redeem their initial destiny though their hard work.
That doesn’t imply, just because we are unequal and unlucky, we shouldn’t give our best shot at life, whether we’re ill, disabled, severly unintelligent. We should give our best, all the time, for our own sake!!
(Sorry for my English, it‘s not my mother tongue, I hope my point came across)
Again, Sorry for disagreeing on this! Thank you for everything you do! 🙏
I totally feel the same whenever I read these things on human rights. It makes me uncomfortable and gives the feeling that we we are really not free. Sending you a nice hug from London, and wishing u a lovely Sunday :-)
You agree with his implied views on the NHS?
Actually, I think the NHS is largely a better health care system than that of the USA. I think we have a generally horrid healthcare system in America. I just don't know if any healthcare system (at least for adults) is a human right. But maybe I'm splitting hairs about what human rights are.
@@dmackler58 Yes, I get the feeling that you fell into a bit of a semantics wormhole and didn't articulate your true opinions accurately. You come across very right wing and austere in this vid, which was a bit of a shock to the system given the high empathy I associate you with. The NHS is flawed, but it's a bloody magical thing compared to the hellscape of American healthcare. It is right that the government ensures a certain standard of living for its citizens, and quite grotesque that a country that is so concerned with success and wealth is unable to look after its most vulnerable.
You're right, we can't have a conversation about rights without talking about responsibility. It feels in our society it's always rights, rights, rights. And then we wonder why people don't find meaning in their lives and fail to grow up.
could you do a video on self harm?
I've thought of doing one before, and even have it planned out in my head, but my big fear is that it might in some way encourage people to harm themselves. Do you have any thoughts on this? Daniel
@@dmackler58 I'm not sure if i can speak on the rest of the people who may watch the video but I'll give my input as someone who has experience with self harm. I believe just discussing it without glorifying it won't trigger people to harm themselves whether they haven't before and would like to try it for themselves or they're in the middle of the habit.
I think people are comforted in some way to discussions of self harm and it even lessens their urges because what they're going through is being seen. There's actually not a lot of discussion on self harm because it's such a very taboo subject in the eyes of society due to people thinking its an "attention seeking" act. I follow youtubers who spread awareness on self harm and discuss their experiences and I read comments of people who say that they watch their channels when they have urges in order for them to avoid harming themselves and I feel the same way.
I will say I get triggered by graphic details of wounds because it triggers the toxic competitiveness of self harm in me, so I believe you should avoid describing wounds. Other than that, a respectful and non judgemental discussion won't do any harm.
@@constellation3164 Thank you. I very much appreciate your reply. I'll think on it. It might be a while before I make any new videos, because I recently made quite a few and am editing them and scheduling them for release now. But when I make new ones this will be on my list. Hopefully it will turn out halfway decent... If so, I'll share it publicly. Wishing you the best! Daniel
You talked about a building you once worked in as a "Medicade Mill" i'm not on Medicade, but i can see people who ARE feeling embarrassed and highly insulted by that term! I believe this was an institution for therapy that you were refering to... Sometimes help IS needed, if just temporarily........... I agree with the person who said your volume of work and insight is ( mostly) very helpful.....
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" and i'm out.
Hot takes straight from the oven.
Very well said, Mr. Mackler. I appreciate your point of view on the subject and agree entirely with the sentiment that it places those in power in the position of playing the role of the parent, thereby relegating the rest of us to the role of "children".
Once again you're spot on Daniel.
One of your best and most insightful videos. Thank you
If only.
But Daniel, the gubberment is here to help 😂
Yes, you "have" the right to work, to have a house, security, to take care of your family, to rest, to receive health care... Or, actually, you have the right to fight and try your best to have all of this and provide it to your family.
You said people seem to have a better self esteem when they don't believe that's the government job to "provide" them... I would say they oftenly don't have the time to worry about little things. And maybe they have a more humble point of view about themselves.
Thank you for this beautiful video 😉