Fun story about the "Come on you sons of bitches" When the singer first saw the lines he went "How am I supposed to sing this?" and was told "You aren't". And then you get that line.
I really like how Joakim worked it into the song. The man is a genius. I realized this when he rhymed "Red Squadron Leader" with "Rote Kampfflieger" in The Red Baron.
Interesting fact: Marines in WW1 were ahead of their time from a tactics perspective. The biggest reason to their success was their Small Unit Tactics that the Russians were implementing by Brusilov during his offensive. The Marines used this to great advantage in WW1 while many other armies were still trying to deal with large units and rigid command structures, the Marines relied on their NCOs to make in the moment decisions.
Thats also one of the reasons Germany held on for so long once America arrived. They started implementing a similar thing with their shock troopers (which actually evolved into the Blitzkrieg tactic)
I’m not the biggest history guy, so this may sound dumb, but do you think this could have been a result of the Civil War? From what I understand the American Civil War somewhat begun the era of modern warfare, and some elements of WWI could be seen in the CW (like trenches, surveillance balloons (which I assume evolved into planes), and what not)
@@AtLeastThreeCharacters. Honestly it would not surprise me. There were multiple wars though between the Civil War and WW1, in Europe as well. I would have to lean on someone elses knowledge for this though. My opinion would be less than educated here.
@@AtLeastThreeCharacters. Yeah, that sounds about right. A lot of European nations observed American fighting to get an idea of how modern (for the time) warfare could play out.
@@lovecraft8639I'm no expert but I don't think that's how you spell "save". As for 9/11, we thoroughly crippled Al-Qaeda as an organization, turned Bin Laden into fish food and took over 10x the amount of lives that we lost so I think we came off it better.
Navy Cross and a Distinguished Service Cross. All the men who had served alongside him wanted him to get a third Medal of Honor, but Congress had been getting pissy ever since he got his second MoH, and they added a new rule that a single soldier could only ever win one MoH, denying Daly his third medal. He was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross and Navy Cross in place of the Medal of Honor.
Interesting. Here it is a bit different. Usually army is called infantry or mechanized infantry, unsure about the airforce outside the pilots, and navy are either navy or amphibious soldiers (and all three branches have rangers). For legal reasons though, everyone who completes basic training are called soldiers as a cat catch-all term, regardless of the military branch. iirc this is to distinguish soldiers from civilians, non-combatants (for example a doctor in a field hospital, who does not count as a civilian but neither as a soldier or a combatant) and combatants (for example a police officer or a mercenary, who are not soldiers but are combatants), all who come under different rules in regards to ROE and POV handling in a war or armed conflict. Is the marine/soldier distinction in the US armed forces a military culture/tradition thing or a legal thing?
@@suntiger745 More a cultural/tradiitonal thing. US Marines have been known to get upset when called soldiers. Soldiers tell the Marines to play with but not eat their crayons. Inter service rivalry. lol. :)
As a former Airman, Air Force personnel are called Airmen. I feel you. Marines Don't like being called Soldiers, Sailors don't like being called Marines, Soldiers don't like being called Marines, and no one likes being called a Sailor. (I love my Navy personnel, before someone pops off about that joke. We rip on each other like the brothers and sisters we are.)
Former Marine here. Although we do not like being called soldiers, I think Sabaton, by using word soldiers, meant members of armed services, rather than members of a particular branch. Thanks for making this video. I bought Sabaton's album "the Great War" few months back. It's still in my cd player in my car. GySgt Dan Daily was not awarded third MOH just because congress did not think a living person should be awarded three MOH.
I agree, even though marines do not like to be called soldiers, there is no way around it. Soldiers are people within a military unit. The word comes from the Romans where warriors were payed a sold to fight for Rome. The sold comes from solidus, originally a Roman gold coin in the Byzantine Empire.
I'm pretty sure that the "Second to None" actually comes from the 2nd Infantry Division's motto - the Marines at Belleau Wood were actually serving as a brigade assigned to the Army's 2nd I.D. And what an incredible story about your uncle!
I'm a soldier. Proud veteran of eight years in the US Army. I have several friends in the US Marine Corps. You are correct, they "prefer" not to be referred to as soldiers, but rather as what they are - Marines. And while my knowledge is a bit dated (it's been a couple decades since I served) in the Corps, everyone was infantry first, and whatever their specialization was second.
This song also resonates with me as my own Grandfather was a Devil Dog as well during WWII, and fought at Guadalcanal and at Okinawa. He passed some 6 years now and I do miss him as I was the only member of the family he opened up to about what he went through in the war and I regret never having a tape recorder going when he spoke, he hid nothing from me about the war from age 12. R.I.P. Corporal Kennith O'Neil 1924-2016
Other sabaton songs i would love to see on this channel are wehrmacht, wolfpack, rise of evil, price of a mile, a lifetime at war and carolus rex^^ Love these reaction vids .... Forgot Cliffs of Gallipoli
A soldier is specific to the army, marines are marines. airmen/airperson is airforce, seamen/sailor is is navy. It's doesn't bother me (former soldier) to have the marines lumped in with us, but you call a marine a soldier and you might have a bunch of half eaten crayons and empty play doh containers thrown at you.
@@Bazerald777 I saw a group of marines lock up, and group salute a Petty officer inside a PX once. Pretty much sums up my entire experience with marines. Great guys, hard workers, definitely eat crayons though.
Maybe a note on the term Devil Dogs, I think its actually quite likely it came from german as the term Teufelshund ( Devil Dog) is still used today allthough its sort of out of fashion now, means someone extremely brave and/or cunning and can also be found in literature predating WW1.
I usually don’t like reaction videos because they take somebody else’s work and use it for their advantage. BUT I love this channel, it’s so great and nice to watch your content because you give credit to the copyright owners and give valuable info on top. I really enjoy your content. Greetings from Germany, I hope I can visit your country some day :)
Technically all marines are soldiers but not all soldiers are marines. I was in the army and I love poking marines with it but God damn i love having a marine at my back, when it comes down to it though one team one fight
@@deathjester127 I’d probably disagree with that. Mainly because the title is related to the organization you’re associated with. Soldiers-Army, Airman-Airforce, Sailors-Navy, Maines-Marine Corps. If anything you would relate marines to sailors and both are under the same department. But I guess if you’re using soldier very broadly, maybe . In the end though, Marines are going to correct you if you call them a soldier.
Hello from Finland! I've been addicted to your content lately. It would be great to hear your reaction and thoughts on Sabatton Soldier Of Three Armies (Lauri Törni, or Larry Thorne to you) and White Death (Simo Häyhä ofc). Thanks for your input!
The thing I thing of when this is asked. During the wars , Women in the Army were WACs, Women in the Navy were Waves, the women in the Air force were WAFs, but Women in the Marines were Marines. If a difference were needed they were Lady Marines. My Aunt Edith was a Lady Marine. The Marines don't care for other names. They didn't mind "Devil Dogs" but they always preferred Marines. Belleau Woods is approx 1/4 mille south of Belleau. It is now Aisne-Marne American Cemetery
Was reading an article about a french soldiers view of American troops in one of the desert wars and he quotes Kipling If your officer's dead and the sergeants look white, Remember it's ruin to run from a fight: So take open order, lie down, and sit tight, And wait for supports like a soldier. He mentioned how americans instead find something to attack
4:35 Your right. We haven't seen a serious land war to that pointsince our Civil War. Most of the Spanish War was Naval. I think part of the reason why the casualties on both sides were so high, was there wasn't a serious war in 40 years, Franco Prussia I think 1871. A full scale war hadn't been seen since Crimea which was 1854. So the tactical training had not kept with the tech and it showed badly.
"Retreat? Hell, we just arrived" - Major Lloyd Williams, USMC, alumnus and later namesake of the building that includes the Virginia Tech History Department.
"when a leader is fallen, a hero arises..." I don't know if they had another meaning picked for this line but when joining the military you are trained and prepared for not only your job but to be a leader if yours falls. If the Platoon leader falls, his job can be picked up by the next highest ranked person. It's a system that is instilled in all of us so if we die the squad, platoon, unit can carry on.
I highly recommend the Medal of Honor ceremony for Roy Benavidez if you’ve never seen it. He was a Green Beret in Vietnam and there’s a video of Reagan reading his citation and then MSG Benavidez gives a speech. It’s truly incredible.
You are correct, Marines are "Marines" not soldiers. If you even use Marine in the past tense referring to another Marine that got out or retired, you will quickly get corrected as Marines are "Marines" forever. It is a title that they are very proud of and rightfully so.
A soldier is per definition someone within a military unit and originally it was a paid warrior, receiving a sold for their job. So of course marines are soldiers. They may not like it but there is really no way around it.
@@Jonsson474 no they aren’t. American military culture is not the same as the Roman Empire or any other country. Soldiers refer specifically to the army. Are Marines also sailors or airmen? Of course not.
@@Wh1stle_03 no but they are paid to do their job and hence they are soldiers. Marine, infantryman, airman or sailor, it’s just there to describe what branch they are in.
@@Jonsson474 ask any Marine OR Soldier buddy. Don’t be willfully ignorant just because a country defines things differently than the people who made the term.
@@Wh1stle_03 the word "soldier" is just defined as someone who's engaged in military service. So yeah, marines are soldiers as far as the definition of the word goes, that the different branches have their own titles doesn't change that fact.
I highly recommend checking out either "The Price of a Mile" or "The End of the War to End All Wars" that also have music videos made by Knight SGC as well.
One of the things I like about your content is that you are respectful to all people who fought in the world wars and all other conflicts. I also want to add that I find this very refreshing as some people from the States keep trying to claim "they won the wars" when it took people from all the countries involved to finally close off these long chapters of warfare. Now I'm not being a "typical" Europe ragging on America as I know not all Americans think the same way as the people mentioned above. But I'd like to feel that with the content you put out and the reverence you show for all service men and woman that more people in America and Europe will acknowledge the efforts of the few who saved the many.
The character reveal trope is a major part of the steve rogers arch into becoming Captain America, since according to guy who created it, it amplified the character inside, good or bad.
oh and marines are infantry, or can be. Army is 11b/11c (bravo is general infantry, charlie is mortarmen, both are infantry) idr what marines mos code is. Infantry has many types, airborne (82nd, 101) air mobile/air assault (101), light infantry (most A/B companies in unit, as well as the rangers, but those guys are on another level.) heavy infantry/mounted (most D elements). Then you have Recon(not scouts, scouts are not infantry, they're scouts, respect the stetson.), APC/ATC units like bradleys ext. Basically, if your job is to use a rifle in close direct action you're infantry. And you can look to the comments on this to find out how I messed up explaining this, I was Infantry for 6 years, really enjoyed it, but I wasn't the biggest on unit breakdowns ext (still have no idea what a regiment is, other than non existent now.)
I'd love to see you react to smoking snakes. It talks about the brazilian expeditionary force acting in Monte Castello in Italy. Also, greetings from Brazil (sorry if my english was bad)
"With the Help of God and a Few Marines": The Battles of Chateau Thierry and Belleau Wood Kindle Edition Written by the commanding officer of the Marine Brigade. It also covers the period prior to WW1 that the Col. served and how the USMC developed. Also covers the recruiting and training of the brigade of Marines. This was the first time the USMC existed operationally at greater than battalion size in the field. Most often, the Marines operated in independent companies or smaller detachments in foreign places.
I come from a military family and this song makes me proud to be American. It strokes my American ego a bit too even though I'm not a Marine 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸. Still makes me proud none the less.
The fighting at Bellau Wood took nearly a month, and when Sabaton visited to promote their album before its release, they walked the entire perimeter in a couple of hours. A heck of a lot of hard fighting for such a small bit of land.
I dont really comment on vids but your vids want me to give you a comment. I have been a sabaton fan since 2007 when my dad saw then on sweden rock festival (i am born 2000). I am very interested in history and i like your videos very much when you put in the backstory of the song.
2:20 To answer your question: Yes, as a Marine who served there would always be interservice and cross national joint training and some of the other service members would refer to us as "soldiers", mistakenly with the other national services and jokingly with the other branches. This didn't "bug" me as much since, ironically, one of the vintage posters that hung up in our command post was a recruitment posters for WWI and said something like "Be a Sea Soldier, Enlist now". After I showed that to a couple of my buds it became a sorta in-joke to where we would call each other sea soldiers.
In the town across the street from Belleau woods and the cemetery, there is a fountain in the shape of a bulldog, that Marines often visit and drink from.
I’m a Marine veteran. Marines are soldiers of the sea. So yes we don’t like to be called “soldier” but in this context that lyric makes sense as Marines are soldiers in the general sense. Think of it as a generic noun vs. a proper noun.
Really great video BTW there are some guys that do historical content on CZcams, problem is they don't know much about it. They just do it for fun and learn while doing it. Collab with them would be great. Example: Drew Durnil.
You mentioned that you were reading a book on the Meuse-Argonne Offensive. Would you please share the name of that book? Unfortunately, my knowledge of the US's involvement in World War One is limited. In fact, I have only recently delved into the war, as I generally focus on earlier conflicts. I enjoy both your channels, by the way.
I would love to see reactions to the WH medal of honor ceremonies. It is allways impressive to see what our soliders did over seas. I suggest the MOH ceremony from corporal kyle carpenter. He saved his marine buddy from a hand grenade attack because he shielded the blast of the grenade with his own body. Both marines survived. I also suggest the insane story from 4 navy SEALs Marcus Luttrell, Michael murphy Danny Dietz and Matthew Axelson. All 3 SEALs died during a mission in Afghanistan exepted for Luttrell. Murphy was awarded the medal of honor and the other 3 SEALs the Navy's cross. Luttrell also wrote a book about his Story. I really like it and the movie lone survivor, also about luttrell and the Team, is very very good and you can watvh iz on netflix. The story is about the 4 navy SEALs who need to elimimate a high Taliban leader. They are expected to only find about 20 or 30 taliban fighters but there were about 200 to 300. With in 24 hours all other 3 SEALs exepted for Luttrell were dead.
If I remember correctly, General Pershing was not happy at all with the Armistice. Which led to him making some very questionable calls, up to the end and beyond the end of WWI. Although, he would end up being very spot on in his beliefs.
Great video as always! I would personally like to see you react to En Livstid I Krig (swedish for "A Lifetime Of War") live in Gothenburg. The song ,even though sung in Swedish, has English lyrics as subtitles. The song is sung as a story being told by a Swedish soldier during the 30 years war. It's a really emotional song especially when you understand the lyrics. I hope I made myself clear as english isn't my mothers tongue. And as a sidenote, thanks for the amounts of content during this pandemic it has been something to keep one entertained.
Marines are badasses and that’s where I’m going to serve for example the most recent Marine Medal of Honor was awarded to a Marine who jumped on a grenade to protect a fellow Marine and survived Corporal Kyle Carpenter
At the time they were looked at as a bunch of farmers and cowboys that wouldn't necessarily stand up to the impact of war so the rejection of the term "soldier" hasn't set in yet but yes, any marine today will give you a very dirty look (if they like you) and a straight cross if they like you less, for that term
the band is from overseas so they don't understand the whole "marines are marines not soldiers!" thing so we let them get away with that XD also a small note for you man. When the marines got there the french commander met them and said "turn around, we are retreating." And captain lloyd williams said "retreat hell we just got here!"
Correct. Marine Corps = Marines Army = Soldiers Navy = Sailors Air Force = Airmen Also, I'll have to look further into the origin of the "Teufel Hunden" nickname. When I was in the Corps, they told us it was from the Battle of Belleau Wood.
On the marine vs soldier thing, there is a language misunderstanding. In Swedish (and norwegian which is my native language) a "soldier" would reffer to any servicemember regardless of branch. Its a term to describe everyone. If you were talking about army specifically you would just say infantry. So when sabaton says "soldier", they mean all servicemembers regardless of branch.
in the Navy we called them marines ,sometimes devil dogs and something else as well which would not make them happy. lol . they call us their taxi's until they need help.....
Marine here. No, don't ever call us soldiers unless you want a fight on your hands. I'm pretty forgiving with civilians because there's a difference between ignorance and malice. So I'll gently correct them so they don't make that mistake again.
They where not calling Marines soldiers, they where just saying what is expected of any service members, using the term soldier as an all encompassing term. Semper Fi.
Waterloo (1970) is kinda boring because it is older but it is probably the most accurate depiction of a battle in war. No bs just awesome work and "the most extras used in movie history"
We in Germany have a Saying: "Was für ein Teufelshund!/ Was für Teufelshunde!". Translation: "What a Devil Dog!/ What for Devil Dogs!". Now it makes sense to me, what this really menas XD
Army: Soldiers Marines: Marines Air Force: Airmen Navy: Sailors Do not call a service member another name that is not the ones listed above. They have great pride in their branch.
Its a language difference. In the nordic languages (swedish, danish and norwegian) the term "soldier" is a general term to describe any service member regardless of branch, so when they say in the song "that is what a soldier should do" they are using the term from a swedish point of view. Probably just an oversight on their part, since they later specifically say "marines".
First soldiers is not capitalized as its not a proper noun. The army doesn't have a specific name for their members like the other branches. When referring to a collection of people from multiple branches using soldier is perfectly acceptable to use for any branch. Only when talking about members of a single specific branch do you use their specific names, unless you use each individual name. This is coming from a US vet.
army: bloody grunt USMC: MARINE Air Force: joystick jockey Navy: uber driver and yes i have called at least one of each service the above lsited names. they all laughed togheter because and thats were it becomes WIERD AS F**K. i know 4 brothers who are all serving in the above mentioned services.
@@nicolivoldkif9096 Yes that is why I said if referring to a service member (individual) it is best out of respect to call them by their branch. Thank you for your service.
I’m a former Paratrooper from the 82nd Airborne Division…..so I have a question……Did Marine’s from the first WW eat crayons like the modern Marines, or is that a relatively new thing? Just asking. For a friend. 🤣🤣🤣. All joking aside, my family has every branch of the US Armed forces covered (except the CG and Space Force). We all felt the call and we answered it in our own way. We need them all, Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, Coast Guard and Space Force. From an old (ok, not THAT old) NCO from the Parachute Infantry, I love all of my Brothers and Sisters in Arms. (Although, I’m not above our inter service rivalries, it keeps us on our toes). God Bless you all
Belleau Wood is officially now known as the "First Marine Division" wood in France. Also a more accurate visual version of Devil Dogs? That would be Sgt Stubby good sir, (czcams.com/video/3TRN0rRFdm8/video.html)
"Retreat, hell! we just got here!" - Captain Lloyd Williams, USMC
Fun story about the "Come on you sons of bitches"
When the singer first saw the lines he went "How am I supposed to sing this?" and was told "You aren't".
And then you get that line.
I really like how Joakim worked it into the song. The man is a genius. I realized this when he rhymed "Red Squadron Leader" with "Rote Kampfflieger" in The Red Baron.
Reminds me of Frederick the Great's "Rascals, would you live forever?"
Hey man can I get a source, I wanna see that interview or whatever
@@not_so_weird I'm pretty sure they talked about it during the Sabaton History episode for Devil Dogs.
Interesting fact: Marines in WW1 were ahead of their time from a tactics perspective. The biggest reason to their success was their Small Unit Tactics that the Russians were implementing by Brusilov during his offensive. The Marines used this to great advantage in WW1 while many other armies were still trying to deal with large units and rigid command structures, the Marines relied on their NCOs to make in the moment decisions.
Thats also one of the reasons Germany held on for so long once America arrived.
They started implementing a similar thing with their shock troopers (which actually evolved into the Blitzkrieg tactic)
correct me if im wrong but, germany used small unit tactics as well during the franco-prussian war in 1870. that was the reason why they won so easily
I’m not the biggest history guy, so this may sound dumb, but do you think this could have been a result of the Civil War? From what I understand the American Civil War somewhat begun the era of modern warfare, and some elements of WWI could be seen in the CW (like trenches, surveillance balloons (which I assume evolved into planes), and what not)
@@AtLeastThreeCharacters. Honestly it would not surprise me. There were multiple wars though between the Civil War and WW1, in Europe as well. I would have to lean on someone elses knowledge for this though. My opinion would be less than educated here.
@@AtLeastThreeCharacters. Yeah, that sounds about right. A lot of European nations observed American fighting to get an idea of how modern (for the time) warfare could play out.
"The deadliest weapon on earth is a Marine and his Rifle!" General Pershing
Probably said that before he knew about the A-bomb. :P
and every man a rifle man. your profession means nothing if you cant shoot
@@SirBlackjack010 the atomic bomb wasn’t made for nearly 30 years after.
@@WindrunnerB4 I know, I was joking obviously.^^
@@SirBlackjack010 I was pretty sure you were, but the world is full of idiots.
"The deadliest weapon in the world is a United States Marine and his rifle" Gen. John J. Pershing
What about rice an farmer with an rifle in the trees 👀
still couldnt safed ya from 9/11
@@lovecraft8639 9/11? we got saved by the winged hussars
@@lovecraft8639 oh but dont worry they got their revenge ;)
@@lovecraft8639I'm no expert but I don't think that's how you spell "save". As for 9/11, we thoroughly crippled Al-Qaeda as an organization, turned Bin Laden into fish food and took over 10x the amount of lives that we lost so I think we came off it better.
Sergeant Daly got his second Medal of Honor in Haiti. He was also awarded the Navy Cross for his action in Belleau Wood.
Navy Cross and a Distinguished Service Cross. All the men who had served alongside him wanted him to get a third Medal of Honor, but Congress had been getting pissy ever since he got his second MoH, and they added a new rule that a single soldier could only ever win one MoH, denying Daly his third medal. He was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross and Navy Cross in place of the Medal of Honor.
Didn't Sergent Daly also say "Come on you sons of B*tches, do you want to live forever?" to his men before charging at the Germans
As a USMC Veteran thank you for sharing this with everybody, Semper Fi!
Semper fi and thank you for your service!
As a former soldier, Army personnel are soldiers. Marines are marines.
Interesting. Here it is a bit different.
Usually army is called infantry or mechanized infantry, unsure about the airforce outside the pilots, and navy are either navy or amphibious soldiers (and all three branches have rangers). For legal reasons though, everyone who completes basic training are called soldiers as a cat catch-all term, regardless of the military branch. iirc this is to distinguish soldiers from civilians, non-combatants (for example a doctor in a field hospital, who does not count as a civilian but neither as a soldier or a combatant) and combatants (for example a police officer or a mercenary, who are not soldiers but are combatants), all who come under different rules in regards to ROE and POV handling in a war or armed conflict.
Is the marine/soldier distinction in the US armed forces a military culture/tradition thing or a legal thing?
@@suntiger745 More a cultural/tradiitonal thing. US Marines have been known to get upset when called soldiers. Soldiers tell the Marines to play with but not eat their crayons. Inter service rivalry. lol. :)
@@TheRealGraylocke Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. :)
As a former Airman, Air Force personnel are called Airmen. I feel you. Marines Don't like being called Soldiers, Sailors don't like being called Marines, Soldiers don't like being called Marines, and no one likes being called a Sailor.
(I love my Navy personnel, before someone pops off about that joke. We rip on each other like the brothers and sisters we are.)
@@TheRealGraylocke yeah he may get upset... but tellin' a marine he can't eat them there crayons... now you really got a devil dog on your hands
Former Marine here. Although we do not like being called soldiers, I think Sabaton, by using word soldiers, meant members of armed services, rather than members of a particular branch. Thanks for making this video. I bought Sabaton's album "the Great War" few months back. It's still in my cd player in my car. GySgt Dan Daily was not awarded third MOH just because congress did not think a living person should be awarded three MOH.
I agree, even though marines do not like to be called soldiers, there is no way around it. Soldiers are people within a military unit. The word comes from the Romans where warriors were payed a sold to fight for Rome. The sold comes from solidus, originally a Roman gold coin in the Byzantine Empire.
@@Jonsson474 it’s probably because they aren’t American, that’s also why they say “USA” instead of “US”
I expect that they also aren’t American so maybe they don’t know about that small detail of what to call marines/army personnel
Honestly I would love to see your reaction to "Soldier of 3 Armies" because I love the Story of Lauri Törni.
While a slightly older song, "White Death" is something i'd very much enjoy to see him bring up. on the topic of awesome people from finland.
So do I :D
If you want a book on Lauri Torni check out Larry Thorne Born a soldier life and times of Larry Thorne
Man, that guy really hated Russians.
I'm pretty sure that the "Second to None" actually comes from the 2nd Infantry Division's motto - the Marines at Belleau Wood were actually serving as a brigade assigned to the Army's 2nd I.D. And what an incredible story about your uncle!
I'm a soldier. Proud veteran of eight years in the US Army. I have several friends in the US Marine Corps. You are correct, they "prefer" not to be referred to as soldiers, but rather as what they are - Marines. And while my knowledge is a bit dated (it's been a couple decades since I served) in the Corps, everyone was infantry first, and whatever their specialization was second.
Chris: when i listen to red baron while driving i just want to go faster
Eurobeat: am i a joke to you?
A part Belleau woods was renamed to "The Marine Brigade woods" .. Or something like that
"Wood of the Marine Brigade"
also we got a fountain there as well
Please react to the lyrical music videos of 'Great War' and 'End of the War to End All Wars'
Well that didn’t quite work out
This song also resonates with me as my own Grandfather was a Devil Dog as well during WWII, and fought at Guadalcanal and at Okinawa. He passed some 6 years now and I do miss him as I was the only member of the family he opened up to about what he went through in the war and I regret never having a tape recorder going when he spoke, he hid nothing from me about the war from age 12. R.I.P. Corporal Kennith O'Neil 1924-2016
Thankful for your grandfather's service!
Other sabaton songs i would love to see on this channel are wehrmacht, wolfpack, rise of evil, price of a mile, a lifetime at war and carolus rex^^ Love these reaction vids
.... Forgot Cliffs of Gallipoli
A soldier is specific to the army, marines are marines. airmen/airperson is airforce, seamen/sailor is is navy. It's doesn't bother me (former soldier) to have the marines lumped in with us, but you call a marine a soldier and you might have a bunch of half eaten crayons and empty play doh containers thrown at you.
Well a cat wont mind being lumped in with lions but lions will obviously mind being lumped in with bunch of cats.
They do get real upset
@@Bazerald777 except the cat knows how to read and likes FOBs just as much as the Marin Crops
@@Bazerald777 I saw a group of marines lock up, and group salute a Petty officer inside a PX once. Pretty much sums up my entire experience with marines. Great guys, hard workers, definitely eat crayons though.
Maybe a note on the term Devil Dogs, I think its actually quite likely it came from german as the term Teufelshund ( Devil Dog) is still used today allthough its sort of out of fashion now, means someone extremely brave and/or cunning and can also be found in literature predating WW1.
Rocking the veni vidi vici, very nice. Please react to Price Of A Mile by Sabaton. The one by the same guy who made this video, Knight.
I usually don’t like reaction videos because they take somebody else’s work and use it for their advantage. BUT I love this channel, it’s so great and nice to watch your content because you give credit to the copyright owners and give valuable info on top. I really enjoy your content. Greetings from Germany, I hope I can visit your country some day :)
And The winged husars arive
And the Marines told them to go home, they weren't needed
Correct. Do not call marines soldiers.
Technically all marines are soldiers but not all soldiers are marines. I was in the army and I love poking marines with it but God damn i love having a marine at my back, when it comes down to it though one team one fight
@@deathjester127 I’d probably disagree with that. Mainly because the title is related to the organization you’re associated with. Soldiers-Army, Airman-Airforce, Sailors-Navy, Maines-Marine Corps. If anything you would relate marines to sailors and both are under the same department. But I guess if you’re using soldier very broadly, maybe . In the end though, Marines are going to correct you if you call them a soldier.
My dad is a Devil Dog, he was a morterman in Vietnam. Great Reation👍🏽🤘🏽
That's what my cousin is, a mortarman! Great company to be in.
Hello from Finland! I've been addicted to your content lately. It would be great to hear your reaction and thoughts on Sabatton Soldier Of Three Armies (Lauri Törni, or Larry Thorne to you) and White Death (Simo Häyhä ofc). Thanks for your input!
Hey Valtteri! Love the story of Simo Häyhä and love the song White Death.. "embody the sisu of finns" - great stuff!
Tervä from Sweden ;)
The thing I thing of when this is asked. During the wars , Women in the Army were WACs, Women in the Navy were Waves, the women in the Air force were WAFs, but Women in the Marines were Marines. If a difference were needed they were Lady Marines. My Aunt Edith was a Lady Marine. The Marines don't care for other names. They didn't mind "Devil Dogs" but they always preferred Marines.
Belleau Woods is approx 1/4 mille south of Belleau. It is now Aisne-Marne American Cemetery
Ah, Knight SGCs music videos...
the dude made some great stuff, my go-to when Sabaton doesn't have a official video.
Shame his channel got deleted
Well, truth is he was a fascist. He created a new channel on another platform and yeah...he posted a LOT of pro nazi stuff.
Was reading an article about a french soldiers view of American troops in one of the desert wars and he quotes Kipling
If your officer's dead and the sergeants look white, Remember it's ruin to run from a fight: So take open order, lie down, and sit tight, And wait for supports like a soldier.
He mentioned how americans instead find something to attack
Go devil dogs!! My brother was Navy stationed on the Forrestal. He has nothing but respect for the Marines!
4:35 Your right. We haven't seen a serious land war to that pointsince our Civil War. Most of the Spanish War was Naval. I think part of the reason why the casualties on both sides were so high, was there wasn't a serious war in 40 years, Franco Prussia I think 1871. A full scale war hadn't been seen since Crimea which was 1854. So the tactical training had not kept with the tech and it showed badly.
"Retreat? Hell, we just arrived" - Major Lloyd Williams, USMC, alumnus and later namesake of the building that includes the Virginia Tech History Department.
"when a leader is fallen, a hero arises..." I don't know if they had another meaning picked for this line but when joining the military you are trained and prepared for not only your job but to be a leader if yours falls.
If the Platoon leader falls, his job can be picked up by the next highest ranked person. It's a system that is instilled in all of us so if we die the squad, platoon, unit can carry on.
I highly recommend the Medal of Honor ceremony for Roy Benavidez if you’ve never seen it. He was a Green Beret in Vietnam and there’s a video of Reagan reading his citation and then MSG Benavidez gives a speech. It’s truly incredible.
You are correct, Marines are "Marines" not soldiers. If you even use Marine in the past tense referring to another Marine that got out or retired, you will quickly get corrected as Marines are "Marines" forever. It is a title that they are very proud of and rightfully so.
A soldier is per definition someone within a military unit and originally it was a paid warrior, receiving a sold for their job. So of course marines are soldiers. They may not like it but there is really no way around it.
@@Jonsson474 no they aren’t. American military culture is not the same as the Roman Empire or any other country. Soldiers refer specifically to the army. Are Marines also sailors or airmen? Of course not.
@@Wh1stle_03 no but they are paid to do their job and hence they are soldiers. Marine, infantryman, airman or sailor, it’s just there to describe what branch they are in.
@@Jonsson474 ask any Marine OR Soldier buddy. Don’t be willfully ignorant just because a country defines things differently than the people who made the term.
@@Wh1stle_03 the word "soldier" is just defined as someone who's engaged in military service. So yeah, marines are soldiers as far as the definition of the word goes, that the different branches have their own titles doesn't change that fact.
The lyric videos for these songs actually have some history tidbits thrown in when they aren't singing like the quote from Pershing.
I highly recommend checking out either "The Price of a Mile" or "The End of the War to End All Wars" that also have music videos made by Knight SGC as well.
One of the things I like about your content is that you are respectful to all people who fought in the world wars and all other conflicts. I also want to add that I find this very refreshing as some people from the States keep trying to claim "they won the wars" when it took people from all the countries involved to finally close off these long chapters of warfare. Now I'm not being a "typical" Europe ragging on America as I know not all Americans think the same way as the people mentioned above. But I'd like to feel that with the content you put out and the reverence you show for all service men and woman that more people in America and Europe will acknowledge the efforts of the few who saved the many.
The character reveal trope is a major part of the steve rogers arch into becoming Captain America, since according to guy who created it, it amplified the character inside, good or bad.
Belleau Wood was officially renamed the "Wood of the Marine Brigade" on the 30th of June, 1918. Four days after the battle for Belleau Wood ended.
oh and marines are infantry, or can be. Army is 11b/11c (bravo is general infantry, charlie is mortarmen, both are infantry) idr what marines mos code is. Infantry has many types, airborne (82nd, 101) air mobile/air assault (101), light infantry (most A/B companies in unit, as well as the rangers, but those guys are on another level.) heavy infantry/mounted (most D elements). Then you have Recon(not scouts, scouts are not infantry, they're scouts, respect the stetson.), APC/ATC units like bradleys ext.
Basically, if your job is to use a rifle in close direct action you're infantry.
And you can look to the comments on this to find out how I messed up explaining this, I was Infantry for 6 years, really enjoyed it, but I wasn't the biggest on unit breakdowns ext (still have no idea what a regiment is, other than non existent now.)
I'd love to see you react to smoking snakes. It talks about the brazilian expeditionary force acting in Monte Castello in Italy. Also, greetings from Brazil (sorry if my english was bad)
I’m so happy you knew marines are called marines. I can’t tell you how many people call me a soldier back home. Respect.
French: retraite
American Officer: Retreat? Hell, we just got here.
"With the Help of God and a Few Marines": The Battles of Chateau Thierry and Belleau Wood Kindle Edition
Written by the commanding officer of the Marine Brigade.
It also covers the period prior to WW1 that the Col. served and how the USMC developed. Also covers the recruiting and training of the brigade of Marines.
This was the first time the USMC existed operationally at greater than battalion size in the field. Most often, the Marines operated in independent companies or smaller detachments in foreign places.
I come from a military family and this song makes me proud to be American. It strokes my American ego a bit too even though I'm not a Marine 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸. Still makes me proud none the less.
The fighting at Bellau Wood took nearly a month, and when Sabaton visited to promote their album before its release, they walked the entire perimeter in a couple of hours. A heck of a lot of hard fighting for such a small bit of land.
I'm German and this song makes me proud of American marines
You should watch the Sabaton History video for this song. It's awesome how Joakim worked Sergeant Daly's quote into it!
Love this channel! Great job!🤘🤘
I see what you are wearing. For christmas I got something similar, a shirt saying "Don't make me repeat myself" -History
“The only thing deadlier than a marine is a marine with his rifle.”
I dont really comment on vids but your vids want me to give you a comment. I have been a sabaton fan since 2007 when my dad saw then on sweden rock festival (i am born 2000). I am very interested in history and i like your videos very much when you put in the backstory of the song.
Thank you for taking the time to comment!
I really enjoy your videos. Hope u go on like this.
I love the hoodie. Where did you get it? I got some shirts off of another bag CZcams channel, Gods and Generals
Knight SGC (now the archive) has some of the best fan made music videos for sabaton.
I recommend checking some of them out.
2:20
To answer your question: Yes, as a Marine who served there would always be interservice and cross national joint training and some of the other service members would refer to us as "soldiers", mistakenly with the other national services and jokingly with the other branches.
This didn't "bug" me as much since, ironically, one of the vintage posters that hung up in our command post was a recruitment posters for WWI and said something like "Be a Sea Soldier, Enlist now". After I showed that to a couple of my buds it became a sorta in-joke to where we would call each other sea soldiers.
I ordered the 1943 steel cent 3 coin set so I'm hoping to get it by next week
How to get a Marine triggered
-Give them crayons
-Call them soldiers.
In the town across the street from Belleau woods and the cemetery, there is a fountain in the shape of a bulldog, that Marines often visit and drink from.
I’m a Marine veteran. Marines are soldiers of the sea. So yes we don’t like to be called “soldier” but in this context that lyric makes sense as Marines are soldiers in the general sense. Think of it as a generic noun vs. a proper noun.
Livgardet episode of Sabaton History has released.
Really great video
BTW there are some guys that do historical content on CZcams, problem is they don't know much about it. They just do it for fun and learn while doing it. Collab with them would be great. Example: Drew Durnil.
You mentioned that you were reading a book on the Meuse-Argonne Offensive. Would you please share the name of that book? Unfortunately, my knowledge of the US's involvement in World War One is limited. In fact, I have only recently delved into the war, as I generally focus on earlier conflicts. I enjoy both your channels, by the way.
This is the one I'm reading now. www.amazon.com/Forty-Seven-Days-Pershings-Warriors-Defeat/dp/0451466950
Btw the best WW1 book I've read so far is A World Undone.
@@VloggingThroughHistory Thank you for your prompt reply. I will look into these two. Keep up the excellent work.
BTW Dan Daly was originaly nominated for 3rd MoH for Bellau wood, but congress decided to reduce award.
I would love to see reactions to the WH medal of honor ceremonies. It is allways impressive to see what our soliders did over seas. I suggest the MOH ceremony from corporal kyle carpenter. He saved his marine buddy from a hand grenade attack because he shielded the blast of the grenade with his own body. Both marines survived. I also suggest the insane story from 4 navy SEALs Marcus Luttrell, Michael murphy Danny Dietz and Matthew Axelson. All 3 SEALs died during a mission in Afghanistan exepted for Luttrell. Murphy was awarded the medal of honor and the other 3 SEALs the Navy's cross. Luttrell also wrote a book about his Story. I really like it and the movie lone survivor, also about luttrell and the Team, is very very good and you can watvh iz on netflix. The story is about the 4 navy SEALs who need to elimimate a high Taliban leader. They are expected to only find about 20 or 30 taliban fighters but there were about 200 to 300. With in 24 hours all other 3 SEALs exepted for Luttrell were dead.
Marine veteran here, you are correct, Marines do not like being called "soldier."
Thank you for your service, Marine!
if you call us a soldier directly we do not like it, but, Marines are also known as the soldiers of the sea due to being a department of the Navy.
Check out the first time a Medal of Honor was recorded. It’s very humbling & extremely emotional!🇺🇸
If I remember correctly, General Pershing was not happy at all with the Armistice. Which led to him making some very questionable calls, up to the end and beyond the end of WWI. Although, he would end up being very spot on in his beliefs.
I visited Belleau Wood as a kid while my father (a Marine) was stationed in Stuttgart, Germany
Great video as always! I would personally like to see you react to En Livstid I Krig (swedish for "A Lifetime Of War") live in Gothenburg. The song ,even though sung in Swedish, has English lyrics as subtitles. The song is sung as a story being told by a Swedish soldier during the 30 years war. It's a really emotional song especially when you understand the lyrics. I hope I made myself clear as english isn't my mothers tongue.
And as a sidenote, thanks for the amounts of content during this pandemic it has been something to keep one entertained.
He already has iirc.
Marines are badasses and that’s where I’m going to serve for example the most recent Marine Medal of Honor was awarded to a Marine who jumped on a grenade to protect a fellow Marine and survived Corporal Kyle Carpenter
for the next sabaton review could you do ghost in the trench ??
At the time they were looked at as a bunch of farmers and cowboys that wouldn't necessarily stand up to the impact of war so the rejection of the term "soldier" hasn't set in yet but yes, any marine today will give you a very dirty look (if they like you) and a straight cross if they like you less, for that term
the band is from overseas so they don't understand the whole "marines are marines not soldiers!" thing so we let them get away with that XD
also a small note for you man. When the marines got there the french commander met them and said "turn around, we are retreating." And captain lloyd williams said "retreat hell we just got here!"
Of course. It's a pretty minor thing and doesn't take away from how awesome the song is!
I would like to see you react to the song "Smoking Snakes" it's about 3 men of the Brazilian expeditionary force during WW2 and we'll worth a listen
Correct.
Marine Corps = Marines
Army = Soldiers
Navy = Sailors
Air Force = Airmen
Also, I'll have to look further into the origin of the "Teufel Hunden" nickname. When I was in the Corps, they told us it was from the Battle of Belleau Wood.
Not Marine but Air Force here and can confirm
Marines=Marines
Army=Soldiers
Air Force=Airmen
Navy=Sailors
Coast Guard=Guardsmen/Coast Guardsmen
Thank you for your cousins service
"Retreat? Hell, we just got here!"
-Capt. Lloyd W. Williams USMC
On the marine vs soldier thing, there is a language misunderstanding. In Swedish (and norwegian which is my native language) a "soldier" would reffer to any servicemember regardless of branch. Its a term to describe everyone. If you were talking about army specifically you would just say infantry. So when sabaton says "soldier", they mean all servicemembers regardless of branch.
I recommend reading a book written by a German soldier named Ernst Junger called storm of steel
So happy ive found this channel
They postponed my October 2 concert in Washington state :(
in the Navy we called them marines ,sometimes devil dogs and something else as well which would not make them happy. lol . they call us their taxi's until they need help.....
We called our corpsmen devil dolphins lol. I spent my tour kicking around Camp Pendleton, so those were about the only navy guys I ever ran into.
Marine here. No, don't ever call us soldiers unless you want a fight on your hands.
I'm pretty forgiving with civilians because there's a difference between ignorance and malice. So I'll gently correct them so they don't make that mistake again.
It was the germans who have the men the devil dogs, since they fought so fiercely
They where not calling Marines soldiers, they where just saying what is expected of any service members, using the term soldier as an all encompassing term. Semper Fi.
Not the Marine Corps but my great grandfather fought with 30th id in the ypres salient
Waterloo (1970) is kinda boring because it is older but it is probably the most accurate depiction of a battle in war. No bs just awesome work and "the most extras used in movie history"
We in Germany have a Saying: "Was für ein Teufelshund!/ Was für Teufelshunde!". Translation: "What a Devil Dog!/ What for Devil Dogs!". Now it makes sense to me, what this really menas XD
Dont dare call me a soldier. We are warriors
Army: Soldiers
Marines: Marines
Air Force: Airmen
Navy: Sailors
Do not call a service member another name that is not the ones listed above. They have great pride in their branch.
English is not my mother tongue but I always thought soldier meant anybody in military. I believe Infantry would be more comparable to Marine in Army.
Its a language difference. In the nordic languages (swedish, danish and norwegian) the term "soldier" is a general term to describe any service member regardless of branch, so when they say in the song "that is what a soldier should do" they are using the term from a swedish point of view. Probably just an oversight on their part, since they later specifically say "marines".
First soldiers is not capitalized as its not a proper noun. The army doesn't have a specific name for their members like the other branches. When referring to a collection of people from multiple branches using soldier is perfectly acceptable to use for any branch. Only when talking about members of a single specific branch do you use their specific names, unless you use each individual name.
This is coming from a US vet.
army: bloody grunt
USMC: MARINE
Air Force: joystick jockey
Navy: uber driver
and yes i have called at least one of each service the above lsited names. they all laughed togheter because and thats were it becomes WIERD AS F**K. i know 4 brothers who are all serving in the above mentioned services.
@@nicolivoldkif9096 Yes that is why I said if referring to a service member (individual) it is best out of respect to call them by their branch. Thank you for your service.
I’m a former Paratrooper from the 82nd Airborne Division…..so I have a question……Did Marine’s from the first WW eat crayons like the modern Marines, or is that a relatively new thing? Just asking. For a friend. 🤣🤣🤣. All joking aside, my family has every branch of the US Armed forces covered (except the CG and Space Force). We all felt the call and we answered it in our own way. We need them all, Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, Coast Guard and Space Force. From an old (ok, not THAT old) NCO from the Parachute Infantry, I love all of my Brothers and Sisters in Arms. (Although, I’m not above our inter service rivalries, it keeps us on our toes). God Bless you all
Crayons have always been a Marine's favorite snack
Charge Tuffelhunden - LCPL Winters USMC
Never a soldier, always a Marine
Belleau Wood is officially now known as the "First Marine Division" wood in France. Also a more accurate visual version of Devil Dogs? That would be Sgt Stubby good sir, (czcams.com/video/3TRN0rRFdm8/video.html)
Love the hoodie
You might want to check out the Sabaton History Channel episode about this episode, seems like it would be up your alley
You are born a Marine but you earn the eagle, globe, and anchor
Usa, world wide, naval tradition