Good video. I have a smallish board with half a dozen full size quality pedals but also two mini pedals. The two ‘mini’ pedals I have (and would not be without) are the Xotic SP Compressor and EP Booster. These are two stunning high quality mini pedals that add sustain sparkle, boost and tonal character to your sound. Highy recommended. I use a Blackface Fender with P90’s and I have a beautiful clean sound with these two pedals adding a blend of richness and character.
If you want to create a compact pedalboard, I would really recommend getting the Caline CP-09 tuner that's also a power supplier on its own. It creates so much extra space. And it is surprisingly cheap as well. Check it out.
I'm currently building a mini board too. I used all Ibanez pedals they fit really snug together and make the board look really clean if you're ok with the patch cables being pushed down between the pedals and thru the board. I used a Metro 24 board though because I added a mini Cry baby wah pedal. For the power I used CIOKS 7 and 4 together. Im at a crossroads right now because the power is slim enough to fit underneath but I've got plenty of space on top. I'm also considering a switcher which would then take the extra space. haven't got that sorted yet. Good build!
Hey all, firstly wanted to say I loved the video, but I have some advice that can improve it. I actually have the same pedalboard and power supply, and also used to have it on top of the board. There is a space under the board that the block fits, but you can't get the cable for the power supply in f it's there. Easy fix is to cut a power supply sized chunk out of the beam underneath, set the power supply there, and voila, two/three extra pedals!
Thanks so much for this - used as inspiration for a board of my own and turned into a very useful reference and advise. Keep posting the cool songs too.
Very informative and entertaining; Lot to be said for the Mini's. The ending was fab as well. Sounded like a cross between Joe Meek and the Ventures Out of Limits.
Really enjoyed this video. I was pleasantly surprise from the black secret (great sabbath tone) and the tremocopter. The mini analog delay from Ibanez is also really cool. I absolutely loved the tones and sounds you got at the very end from this pedal board. That was baddass.
Great, plain language description of each pedal's function... and pretty good compressed-CZcams video tone... thank you. I feel I can rely on your demos to start my demo/purchase journey... Keep up the great work.
I'm uneducated on electronics, but I'm confused about some of these pedals being powered by the L6 power connections on the Pedal Power 2. I thought the L6 ports put out higher amperage, that I wouldn't think you'd want going to these kinds of pedals. From the Voodoo Labs website, it seems like the two SAG ports can be "normal" based on a switch. Lots to learn....
Fascinating! This is one area I've never really gone into. I'm curious that you didn't feel the need for a noise gate pedal. What's you view on when they become necessary etc?
That is true, actually you daisy-chain 2 pedals then, the tuner and another pedal of your selection. And there is no problem in doing so, as long as you hook up nothing fancy. A Tubescreamer, or a Boss Chorus for instance will give no issues. I'm using 9 pedals on my board in combination with the Voodoo Power Lab with 8 outputs. Thanks to my Boss Tuner I could power all 9 pedals with it.
SRC absolutely... you need a power supply if you are trying to power 3 or more pedals.. a daisy chain can only power a few pedals effectively.. upgrade to a power supply and your pedals will be working just fine and sound better
Hi Adrian. How did you go about getting the mooer pedals to Velcro to the board? Did you remove the rubber and label from the bottom ? Also I’ve noticed the screws are not flush with the bottom of the pedal, did that cause any problems getting it to stick properly? Thanks
Hi Adrian, I have really enjoyed you Luther Perkins tutorials, Johnny Cash's lead player. Would you have any suggestions as to what pedals would enhance his style of playing, especially the bass notes etc. thank you so much. I'm just learning my way around electronics. I'm really a luthier making banjos and acoustic guitars.
I suppose Luther Perkins was from a pre-pedal era, so for an authentic sound you probably don't need much - just a nice guitar into a tweed Fender type amp. Possibly a delay pedal to simulate the studio tape echo sound Perkins used. Maybe a reverb pedal too if it's not built into your amp. Reverb and slapback delay will definitely help those bass notes pop out.
I see here you have the metro 16 with the massive pedal power too supply on the top I recently bought the metro 24 and I'm looking to fit the pedal power X4 unit on the top of my board because the metro 24 like the metro 16 doesn't have enough space underneath. I also see that you have some rather large pedals on this board in addition to the pedal power two I'm a little worried that the pedals I'm going to use and the pedal power for won't fit on top of the board I don't know if you know the pedals I talk about but I have most of all of fenders new pedals and their rather large but they don't seem as large as some of the ones you have on your board and if you are able to fit the pedal power X2 on top of the metro 16 which I thought was impossible do you think I would be able to fit the pedal power X4 the Fender engager boost the fender Bends compressor and the fender Santa Ana overdrive all on the top of the metro 24?You seem to be able to do it with the metro 16 but I'm not sure if Fenders pedals are much larger than yours
Very similar to what I have done, also in a need of a small board to carry around. Yes, the Moore Black Secret is quite nice, one of the best dirt pedals Moore has released - also got an F-Pedal distortion and an One Control delay - but the rest is quite similar to your set up - a HOF and a Ditto at the end with the mini Poly Tune at the beginning. Though why not insert the power below? Why take up so much vital space on placing it on the top? Note that Pedaltrain has just released an excellent power brick, the Spark - very small yet extremely powerful - fits perfectly under a Nano board.
Yes, I thought the Nano was too small to fit a decent power supply underneath. Wasn't aware of Spark which looks great. Can feel some modifications to the board coming on, and a couple of extra pedals!
Good question. Could probably do another video to answer it. Sure there are people who know more about this than me, but i think of them as 3 different flavours of drive. Overdrive is more natural, like a nice amp breaking up. Distortion is more rock/metal. Fuzz is, er, fuzzy sounding. DS1 is a great pedal and you can get a good range of sounds from it, so that might be all you need depends on what kind of music you're making.
Yes, I've no experience with any of the other Mooers so I can't really comment. The two I have sound really good and stand up very well to much more expensive pedals. Surprising, as I was a bit dubious when I bought them.
How much did the whole thing cost? I have three pedals, looper, delay and a distortion and I want to build a pedal board for worship. Like those pedals mine are small too. So I was just wondering how much all of the gear costed you.
Yep, probably should have mentioned that. It's velcro - the pedal train comes with some really strong velcro which you just attach to the runners on the board and then to the bottom of the pedals.
Yes, still using it. But definitely considering an update. Since I made this, quite a few good power supplies have come out that would fit underneath, leaving room for an extra pedal or two!
I think donner is the better way to go for cheaper mini pedals over mooer. Had some issues with mooer pedals that cost twice as much as very solidly built donner minis. I have the HOF pedal. Yuck I hate that TonePrint shit. What a pita.
Typically modulation after drive but before time. Between the rat and the delay. In this case I'll go before the tremolo, but just because I'd like to hear the tremolo more if I've got both on
Beginner guitarist.. It's stupid how expensive pedals are. Never would I have guessed that's how much guitarists were spending on pedals. Unreal. I just looked up the tumnus, it's 150ish. WHAT. Guess I'll just stick to donner/behringer pedals.
Juan Gutierrez niiice. I’ll look into for sure. This could get expensive all I have so far is one looper pedal and the nano + pedal train with trex junior power for 5 pedals.
Wouldn't the RAT clone do a passable fuzz with everything maxed out? I think I would swap the fuzz for a chorus too - more Cure, Nirvana, Siouxsie, surely? And that is the stuff to play - as you have demonstrated!
hi Adrian - excellent review of mini pedals! I may give a try to the Tumnus overdrive as it sounds very natural indeed. Just a question: I see no noise gate. Any issue with noise when you play your lovely Jazzmaster? I have a Moer Noise Killer in my chain. Thanks
Thank Fabio! Yes, loving the Tumnus at the moment. Using it for nearly all of my recent videos. I've never used noise gates, not sure why. Noise is only a problem for me if I'm using tons of distortion or air I'm stacking multiple drive pedals which is not that often. I'm usually just very quick on the guitar volume control and turn everything down when necessary.
I don't understand mini-pedals. Since they have side jacks they take up the same space as a standard size pedal with top jacks. Just have to convince pedal builders to put the jacks on top!
11:50 Tuner
12:15 JHS Fuzz
13:45 Tumnus
16:10 Black Secret
17:20 Trelicopter
18:45 Ibanez Delay
20:18 HOF
21:44 Ditto
thank you, i owe you 12 minutes.
20:05 Spinal Tap plays the air force base moment.
22:27 tripping out
@@bradford_shaun_murray The Spinal Tap reference 😂
Nice idea, Would have been nice to see how cables were connected for this newbie !
I use a Cioks DC7, fits nicely underneath the pedaltrain board
I think i'm gonna copy this exact board, but maybe a different power supply. Thanks for making this, man!
Good video. I have a smallish board with half a dozen full size quality pedals but also two mini pedals. The two ‘mini’ pedals I have (and would not be without) are the Xotic SP Compressor and EP Booster. These are two stunning high quality mini pedals that add sustain sparkle, boost and tonal character to your sound. Highy recommended. I use a Blackface Fender with P90’s and I have a beautiful clean sound with these two pedals adding a blend of richness and character.
Those pedals are the next two additions to my pedalboard
Some psychedelic incantations for the finale. Well done!
Cheers Chris, glad you liked it.
As a set and forget kind of player I think I'd really like a mini board some day. Thanks for sharing!
What a great little board! Perfect selections. Looks fantastic. Really well produced video mate. Enjoy it.
I also use an 80's super champ! I dig it.
If you want to create a compact pedalboard, I would really recommend getting the Caline CP-09 tuner that's also a power supplier on its own. It creates so much extra space. And it is surprisingly cheap as well. Check it out.
Whoah thank you man just checked these out, didn't know anything like that existed! So good for a travel board.
It’s not isolated though, the hum would be miserable
only if you use digital pedals that run at high current.
also check it out JOYO POWER TUNE ALSO HAS POWER SUPPLY ON ITS OWN.. I OWN IT AND IT REALLY WORKS AS A TUNER AND.POWER SUPPLY
Just ordered mine.
Thanks a lot Adrian.
I think I have finally found the Fuzz pedal I've been searching for.
Well done Sir!
The mini foot is a recent acquisition for me and I'm really enjoying it. Got a few other fuzzes and this is one of the best.
I'm currently building a mini board too. I used all Ibanez pedals they fit really snug together and make the board look really clean if you're ok with the patch cables being pushed down between the pedals and thru the board. I used a Metro 24 board though because I added a mini Cry baby wah pedal. For the power I used CIOKS 7 and 4 together. Im at a crossroads right now because the power is slim enough to fit underneath but I've got plenty of space on top. I'm also considering a switcher which would then take the extra space. haven't got that sorted yet. Good build!
I look forward to more videos
Top presentation; concise, clear, and on the mark. Your board looks awesome. Well done. Very well done.
The ending was EPIC!
Hey all, firstly wanted to say I loved the video, but I have some advice that can improve it. I actually have the same pedalboard and power supply, and also used to have it on top of the board. There is a space under the board that the block fits, but you can't get the cable for the power supply in f it's there. Easy fix is to cut a power supply sized chunk out of the beam underneath, set the power supply there, and voila, two/three extra pedals!
22:15 Aww Hell nah spunchbob ate a whole bottle of benadryls
Thanks so much for this - used as inspiration for a board of my own and turned into a very useful reference and advise. Keep posting the cool songs too.
Very informative and entertaining; Lot to be said for the Mini's. The ending was fab as well. Sounded like a cross between Joe Meek and the Ventures Out of Limits.
Thanks - yes, love a bit of Joe Meek craziness.
Elliott Smith Kiwi Maddog 20/20.
Really enjoyed this video. I was pleasantly surprise from the black secret (great sabbath tone) and the tremocopter. The mini analog delay from Ibanez is also really cool. I absolutely loved the tones and sounds you got at the very end from this pedal board. That was baddass.
Tumnus, Trelicopter and HOF equals Better Call Saul Intro tone. Nice one
Hi Adrian thanks for all you do i appreciate the time you take with quality and detail
Lovely job! That fuzz sounds great with the delay!
I Dig A Pony! And the sound of the delay with the fuzz and Tumnus was amazing!
Nice video 😎💪👌👍💯🎸🎸. Really liking the delay with the fuzz. Sweet!
beautiful
Great version of "Metal Machine Music" at the end.
great choice, wonderfull ideas nice variety of sound of the 60 's and 70's
Elliott Smith and Beatles riffs. You have damn fine taste mate
Great choice of Pedals!
A good prw supply for flat boards is the Cioks DC 5.. great quality and fits underneath.. check it out :)
Denis Surette but wouldn’t that only power 5 of his pedals? Do you know if the dc10 would fit under?
Quite good video, awesome!
Thanks, glad you liked.
The pedal power 2 plus fits well underneath the pedal train if you need more room
Excellent video!
Great, plain language description of each pedal's function... and pretty good compressed-CZcams video tone... thank you. I feel I can rely on your demos to start my demo/purchase journey...
Keep up the great work.
Very nice. I think I’ll buy that board…
Nice Eliot Smith riff there near the end.
Very interesting. Thanks for this, Adrian.
Glad you liked it!
The last 2 mins of this video is my fav, potential Skullflower action. I'm impressed by the quality of sound those mini pedals are capable of, thanks.
haha yes, just a bit of fun at the end. Like the Skullflower comparison though - thanks!
Thank for making this video - very informative and useful. A most enjoyable video.
Thanks for the tips Adrian!
Great build video!
Good video.....
That was great... would of liked to have heard the looper with you playing on top... Cheers Adrian.
Yes, maybe I'll do a bit of that in another video.
Awesome!
TRex Chameleon is the best psu in price-point and mA availability. And the size not as bulky
Great video! Thanks!
Thank-you!
Great video thanks!
the "dig a pony" riff was awesome
Raise the feet of the metro, and put the power supply under might look a whole lot cleaner.
That doesn't work either. The rails are too close together. It's a flaw in the design.
That Mooer Black Secret sounds very Tony Iommi in tone, which I wasn't expecting from a rat pedal clone
It is surprising. I think some of it has to do with the Jazzmaster single coils sounding a little like Iommi's early P90s.
Yes, just an accident it sounded quite Iommi-ish really!
Nice rhyme :)
The Black Secret has a respectable Sabbath tone
Can pedal actually pick up radio waves griped me out when I heard that
Yeah, powertools too. Just turn the gain up on any fuzz with enough volume and it works
If you put your cables parallel you make an antenna 📡 try a cross ❌
Should you have used a Cioks DC5 Power Supply that is isolated and fits under Metro boards, could you have put 1 or 2 more mini pedals.
Shtzweak you can get doubler cables for the dc5. I power 8 pedals from my dc 5 with no issues.
Can you show us your other pedalboard?
I'm uneducated on electronics, but I'm confused about some of these pedals being powered by the L6 power connections on the Pedal Power 2. I thought the L6 ports put out higher amperage, that I wouldn't think you'd want going to these kinds of pedals. From the Voodoo Labs website, it seems like the two SAG ports can be "normal" based on a switch. Lots to learn....
Brilliant way to end the video!
Really!
59 yrs old
Family history of dementia
All but shit meself
Fascinating! This is one area I've never really gone into. I'm curious that you didn't feel the need for a noise gate pedal. What's you view on when they become necessary etc?
I think that this pedal board is missing compressor and some type noise gate. Good vid.
I had no idea they made a mini tumnus. I want to trade my full size in for a mini and steal your drive section entirely :)
I read that you can use A Boss TU2 as a power supply, does anyone know if that's true?
That is true, actually you daisy-chain 2 pedals then, the tuner and another pedal of your selection. And there is no problem in doing so, as long as you hook up nothing fancy. A Tubescreamer, or a Boss Chorus for instance will give no issues. I'm using 9 pedals on my board in combination with the Voodoo Power Lab with 8 outputs. Thanks to my Boss Tuner I could power all 9 pedals with it.
The power supply on the top of the board makes me uncomfortable.
why is that?
@@src4526 It can fit under it and free up room for more pedals
is a power supply like that more effective? my setup uses a daisy chain type power supply and i think it's why my looper doesn't work. is that likely?
SRC absolutely... you need a power supply if you are trying to power 3 or more pedals.. a daisy chain can only power a few pedals effectively.. upgrade to a power supply and your pedals will be working just fine and sound better
Gracias, Adam.
Hi Adrian. How did you go about getting the mooer pedals to Velcro to the board? Did you remove the rubber and label from the bottom ? Also I’ve noticed the screws are not flush with the bottom of the pedal, did that cause any problems getting it to stick properly? Thanks
You can scrap it or sometimes unscrew and flip the cover so the rubber is on the inside.
Hi Adrian, I have really enjoyed you Luther Perkins tutorials, Johnny Cash's lead player. Would you have any suggestions as to what pedals would enhance his style of playing, especially the bass notes etc. thank you so much. I'm just learning my way around electronics. I'm really a luthier making banjos and acoustic guitars.
I suppose Luther Perkins was from a pre-pedal era, so for an authentic sound you probably don't need much - just a nice guitar into a tweed Fender type amp. Possibly a delay pedal to simulate the studio tape echo sound Perkins used. Maybe a reverb pedal too if it's not built into your amp. Reverb and slapback delay will definitely help those bass notes pop out.
Swap that jhs for the golden fleece!
I was curious to see which modulation pedal you chose ........ ???
I see here you have the metro 16 with the massive pedal power too supply on the top I recently bought the metro 24 and I'm looking to fit the pedal power X4 unit on the top of my board because the metro 24 like the metro 16 doesn't have enough space underneath. I also see that you have some rather large pedals on this board in addition to the pedal power two I'm a little worried that the pedals I'm going to use and the pedal power for won't fit on top of the board I don't know if you know the pedals I talk about but I have most of all of fenders new pedals and their rather large but they don't seem as large as some of the ones you have on your board and if you are able to fit the pedal power X2 on top of the metro 16 which I thought was impossible do you think I would be able to fit the pedal power X4 the Fender engager boost the fender Bends compressor and the fender Santa Ana overdrive all on the top of the metro 24?You seem to be able to do it with the metro 16 but I'm not sure if Fenders pedals are much larger than yours
Have you compare some of your pedals with some from Hotone? I'm looking for some of there stuff and I'm not sure which is best compare to Mooer.
strategic guitar placement 👍. How dare you put a fender guitar behind a door like that ? Nice gear and pedals though.
Elliott smith 👏
Tumnus Does Lennon sound well
Very similar to what I have done, also in a need of a small board to carry around. Yes, the Moore Black Secret is quite nice, one of the best dirt pedals Moore has released - also got an F-Pedal distortion and an One Control delay - but the rest is quite similar to your set up - a HOF and a Ditto at the end with the mini Poly Tune at the beginning. Though why not insert the power below? Why take up so much vital space on placing it on the top? Note that Pedaltrain has just released an excellent power brick, the Spark - very small yet extremely powerful - fits perfectly under a Nano board.
Yes, I thought the Nano was too small to fit a decent power supply underneath. Wasn't aware of Spark which looks great. Can feel some modifications to the board coming on, and a couple of extra pedals!
Trelicopter= Can - I Want More to The Smiths - How Soon Is Now!!!
I have one distortion pedl Ds1-1 boss, what is the difference between fuzz, overdrive, and distortion, can one do those same effects with one pedal?
Good question. Could probably do another video to answer it. Sure there are people who know more about this than me, but i think of them as 3 different flavours of drive. Overdrive is more natural, like a nice amp breaking up. Distortion is more rock/metal. Fuzz is, er, fuzzy sounding. DS1 is a great pedal and you can get a good range of sounds from it, so that might be all you need depends on what kind of music you're making.
BD2 is the most versatile I've owned. Clean boost to fuzz
every pedal is mini , then the PSU is huge ... great choice pedalboard and pedals ... its just the PSU kinda unbalanced it visually ...
That’s a beautiful Jaguar. Just kidding, I know it’s a Mustang
you could put a pedal on the power suply
It might get too hot
@@pauulkubasek1815 aaah didnt think of that
I've had nothing but trouble with mooer. Just hum... the yellow compressor was awful
Yes, I've no experience with any of the other Mooers so I can't really comment. The two I have sound really good and stand up very well to much more expensive pedals. Surprising, as I was a bit dubious when I bought them.
if that fuzz has a germanium diode you should try it before the tuner, it may sound better.
Pretty sure it's silicon
How much did the whole thing cost? I have three pedals, looper, delay and a distortion and I want to build a pedal board for worship. Like those pedals mine are small too. So I was just wondering how much all of the gear costed you.
Thanks for the video. How do the pedals attach to the board?
I believe it's velcro sticky pads. The runners on the board are covered in velcro.
Yep, probably should have mentioned that. It's velcro - the pedal train comes with some really strong velcro which you just attach to the runners on the board and then to the bottom of the pedals.
Cool Rig Build. You still rocking it? And or have you done a 2.0 ? Consider putting the power under neath ?
Yes, still using it. But definitely considering an update. Since I made this, quite a few good power supplies have come out that would fit underneath, leaving room for an extra pedal or two!
@@acpg looking forward to that Vid. Any ideas for a mini pedal or 2 for Tele. Need 1 or 2 Mini Pedals for Rock & Metal. Any reccomendations ? Thx !
Don't you have any noise supressor pedals for that rig?
I think donner is the better way to go for cheaper mini pedals over mooer. Had some issues with mooer pedals that cost twice as much as very solidly built donner minis.
I have the HOF pedal. Yuck I hate that TonePrint shit. What a pita.
THAT A HUGE POWRR SUPPLY 🤣
How did you put sticky the pedals to the board ?
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Velcro
What patch cables are you using
Is your setup good for bass? Or do i need to rearrange some?
The ending reminded me of "Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things."
20:06 please somebody explain that to me!!
jose miguel schorr a foreign radio signal snuck into the circuitry..
Area 51 😂😅
I always put my tremolo pedal last in the chain.
Hey no Chorus pedal? If you were going to use one, where would you put it?
Typically modulation after drive but before time. Between the rat and the delay. In this case I'll go before the tremolo, but just because I'd like to hear the tremolo more if I've got both on
Beginner guitarist.. It's stupid how expensive pedals are. Never would I have guessed that's how much guitarists were spending on pedals. Unreal.
I just looked up the tumnus, it's 150ish. WHAT. Guess I'll just stick to donner/behringer pedals.
I think they make a lot of profit on them. I’m making a first pedal board and it’s difficult finding good value for money
@@pablo9364 tc electronic has some good ones that are $40-$50 bucks when they are on sale
Juan Gutierrez thanks for the tip. I’ll look them up.
@@pablo9364 yeah, any time guitar center has one of their sales, they have affordable tc electronic pedals on sale
Juan Gutierrez niiice. I’ll look into for sure. This could get expensive all I have so far is one looper pedal and the nano + pedal train with trex junior power for 5 pedals.
Why OD on the third place not on fourth?
In case you want to drive the rat for a more mid-ranged high-gained kind of sound
Cute? Expensive mate! Ha
no chorus? flanger?
I know.!..love chorus and flange but ran out of room, and power outputs so they had to be left off. Got a great sounding Ibanez mini chorus too.
ah ok man, thanks for the tips in this vid!
Wouldn't the RAT clone do a passable fuzz with everything maxed out? I think I would swap the fuzz for a chorus too - more Cure, Nirvana, Siouxsie, surely? And that is the stuff to play - as you have demonstrated!
Dyou know how much that bloody Wampler costs! Over £200 !
Since you made this video have you discovered pancake jacks?
take a shot for each "power supply". im already shitfaced after 2,5 mins
hi Adrian - excellent review of mini pedals! I may give a try to the Tumnus overdrive as it sounds very natural indeed. Just a question: I see no noise gate. Any issue with noise when you play your lovely Jazzmaster? I have a Moer Noise Killer in my chain. Thanks
Thank Fabio! Yes, loving the Tumnus at the moment. Using it for nearly all of my recent videos. I've never used noise gates, not sure why. Noise is only a problem for me if I'm using tons of distortion or air I'm stacking multiple drive pedals which is not that often. I'm usually just very quick on the guitar volume control and turn everything down when necessary.
I don't understand mini-pedals. Since they have side jacks they take up the same space as a standard size pedal with top jacks. Just have to convince pedal builders to put the jacks on top!
Good point - not thought of it like that before. Wonder why no one's made a pedal with jacks on the top?!
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Enjoyed the video. Love your choices for guitar lessons. You have great taste!