Israel and Palestine protests engulf American campuses | LBC callers debate
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- Tent cities and encampments have taken over a number of major university campuses in the US, with protesters from both sides of the Israel-Gaza war making their voices heard.
Matt Frei hears voices from across the spectrum, debating the rights and wrongs of the actions:
00:41 Caller Nick: "We are all brainwashed to believe one side."
05:09 Caller Katherine: "For the first time in my life, being Jewish is something that has become difficult."
09:43 Matt Frei: "Get real guys! Try and take a more nuanced view."
12:27 Caller Mus: "Young people have seen one side has all the power."
20:24 Caller Amjad: "I think this is a fundamental of democracy."
26:10 Caller Jude: "The main cause of protest in any kind of protest is injustice of any kind."
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Well done to the students who are standing up for the Palestinian people. Someone has to.
Name the founder of the phony Palestinians?
@@solvingpolitics3172please elaborate on phony??
@@solvingpolitics3172I understand that is painful for you seeing people stand with Palestinians and humanity. I feel you .
@@solvingpolitics3172 That's the kind of comment that someone with absolutely zero understanding of the subject would say. Please elaborate or get lost.
Absolutely no clue
They should just shush and let the adults deal with it
Again with the lies and propaganda that this started on October 7th.
The ignorance of the presenter and the callers is astounding. Yes I’m generalizing. Also, Hamas acted with the support of a nation at the end of their patience. They breached the wall, took out surveillance… it was a timed, coordinated, multitargeted, complex raid.
Did you hear the caller say there were 36 Israeli babies killed on 10/7 ! The so called journalist on LBC didn't bother to correct him !
In the beginning, there was the Arab "NO"
"No" to any Hebrew state in Mideast.
"No" to any Jewish Sovereignty.
"No" to even a tiny Israel anywhere.
That was the same NO 100 years ago as today. So long that "NO" persists, the fakestinians will face endless suffering.
See a doctor.
Israeli apache helicopters are anti semitic
United States of Israel
And little Britain 😂
what a dump
United States of Israel and little Britain .
😅😅😅@@freepalestine7630
@@Abdo-ARAHMAN-gaming
Yes, free it from Arab colonists.
Katherine, no one is criticising Jews rather people are criticise Zionist
They always mix the country politics with the religion, and the truth is we’re protesting the country government. They’re causing more problems than “raising awareness” of antisemitism. So tired of their shenanigans!
You’d have to explain the difference….
@@georgebaker5971Zionists are on the whole non religious, and can be of any faith. Jews follow their religion, which teaches that there should not be a Jewish ethnostate.
Many Jews aren't zionists ,in fact , a lot of zionists are extreme evangelicals
"Nakba 1948, 750000 Palestinians driven from their homes or murdered!!!!!!!!!"
A mess created by the British
But but but but it only started last year smh ....
Truth
1929 Hebron Massacre there was only Palestine No Israel jews were massacred living there pecefully thousands of years.
"he who controls the past controls the future" Orwell: 1984
The very deliberate attempt to limit the acceptable level of context must be resisted at all costs
FREEDOM FOR PALESTINE.
Free America from AIPAC and ADL. Free Israel from Zionism. Free Palestine!!!
Freedom for London.👍
@@lestrem11London? Pahahahhahahahahah wow such the victim in LONDON
@@DaleEarnhardt_ as if people aren't being censored/cancelled and forced to self censor over their criticism of Israel, Netanyahu and zionism.
@lestrem11 Free London from you.
Sangita Myska has been suspended after the Israeli embassy complained that "SHE"was making their spokespeople look bad. There is an online petition to reinstate her, SIGN IT PLEASE.
All those educated people can't be wrong about the israelis apartheid regime?
"They say,"We are not accountable for whatsoever we may do to the Gentiles."And thus speak untruth about Allah/Creator while they know it."
Holy Quran (3:75)
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings whatever. I don't believe such fictitious nonsense from some bronze age goat herder cave scrolls, israelis or otherwise
In your dreams!😂😂😂😂😂
No.
there's no such thing
Bravo, students! Free Palestine 🇵🇸🍉
Free Lilliput too !
Free pakistan and give it back to the indians
There will never be a Palestinian state.
@@kaikai-pb7fh im sure pakistani people didn't come over from europe to illegally occupy pakistan. Aren't pakistanis basically muslim indians?
@@kaikai-pb7fhmaybe you should start by stop supporting imperialists countries like USA/ENGLAND/ISRAEL
"It started at 1948 and not 7 oktober!!!!!!"
Even earlier.
Actually started in the late 1920's with Zionist Militia groups.
@Lindisfarnefarmer, the father of Israel, modern Zionist Theodor Herzel, in the late 1880s, decided upon possessing Palestine and dispossesing the Palestinians and here we are.
it started on October 7, 1948
Google King david hotel.
Proud of them
You are living in the wrong country.
The students are on the right side of history!
They are doing to PaIestinians what they did to Native Americans…..
I love your name💯
How do you propose to make America native again?
@@cujimmiImmediately change all government contract language to native languages.
And nationalize all property.
@@Master_Picksnative languages ! Who in modern day American understands native languages, I'm sure everyone is going to give up their property as well 🤔
@@cujimmi The Natives. They can teach you. Not forgetting the Natives were forced to give up their lands, simply nationalizing the land bridges inequality without having to drive the immigrants/invaders out to sea.
The youths in America are the most moral youths for a long time ago.
I have to agree
They no longer have anything to lose.
There has never been a time in the past that has been more moralistic than today.
@genocide2024 they have not been bought out by the Isril lobbyists yet
I'd not go that far, but yes, they've taken a stand and deserve our support .. unlike the politicians.
Free free Palestine! Palestine shall be free!!!
From the river to the sea Palestine shall be free
Palestine doesn't exist so it's difficult to br free.
@@johnyare8576 Take a listen to this: FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, PALESTINE SHALL BE FREE!🇵🇸
@@CZcamsMusic-ic5rp Using capital letters doesn't make you any more convincing but read my lips. ''Palestine can't be free because it doesn't exist'', sorry about that.
Give pakistan back to india.. give Ukraine back to russia
Well done to these young folks for standing up for humanity 👏🏾
❤
Psst….they missed that Ukraine thingy.
@lestrem11 psst.... nothing to miss 😉
Ukraine got its support and more.
The Palestinians, however....
Psst... work on your critical thinking skills before anyone else picks you up on it 😉
Psst.... ironically, I'd suggest going to university to work on those critical thinking skills 😂😂😂
👊🏾✊🏾
Sorry october 7th?!? It started 75+ years ago and the resistance just fought back. It's BEEN happening since 48'
There is no both sides in this conflict. You have an occupying power that has been killing Palestinians for over 75 years. Resistance to this occupation can never be compared to Israeli dehumanizing actions.
No such thing as "fakestinians".
This fake phantom peoplehood never existed and never will.
There was never a nation-state called "Palestine" in recorded history.
So how can one persecute something that never was ?
This broadcaster is sitting on the fence for whatever reason.
If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.
Desmond Tutu
AIPAC money running through his veins 😂😂😂😅😅😅😅
Free free free free Palestine 🍉🇪🇭💔
Free London.
Uneducated hosts are a real shame…
You must have no access to the internet…
@@eddiecalderone sorry, were you agreeing with this guy that “it’s absolutely important that we remember that this all started October 7th”? Just curious 🤔
Matt told 15k Palestinian kids have died, his response oh yeah yeah.
We're one generation away (hopefully less) from Palestine being free and the end of Zionism once and for all! So proud of young people for standing their ground! Humanity always wins in the end!
This host is being DISINGENUOUS.
he is a snake
I am quite confused by his comments and response. Sitting on the fence and being a snake 🐍
@@TAJi677 And clearly clever by less-than half.
Just imagine how your Palestinians British citizens feel when their whole family has been killed back in Palestinian.
If they support Hamas, hate the west, detest the U.K. loathe our way of life and support our enemies, why would I want to care?
That’s just it, they aren’t British and we know it.
Power to the Youth Standing for Truth
Israel does not mean Jewish. Israel as a regime may disappear but Jews will stay.
Why don't Americans protest?
SO MANY Homeless and NO MEDIC AID!!!?
EVERYONE SHOULD BE PROTESTING,
free US and germany from AIPAC
They are
Yes they sleeping
They are
The politicians are all bribed too well by aipac.
The oppressed will always fight back
Great students and young people totally approved .
We should all be very proud of these students ♥ they stand for what they believe in
As a mother of young adults, I am proud of them. Their parents raised amazing human beings.
Lets face it. The new generation arnt that smart..
This matt guy is such an IDF sympathiser
He didn't use to be. He is probably shook about what happened to Sangita Myska...
Yeah he's massive warmonger
@@RockdownPlus and the sad irony is, if you correctly name & call out what's happened to Sangita and Matt's turnaround in his approach you'll be tagged as being "antisemitic".
@@lulubelle2009Definitely.
LBC sanctions await then to maintain non bias.
Ffs it did not start on Oct 7th., No matter how many times you say it did.
Thank you
The gaslighting is unbelievable
Everyone knows that but cannot state that fact for being complicit.
West did injustice in 1948
You didn't moan when england gave you pakistan.. why dont you give pakistan back to india?
@@kaikai-pb7fh ofgs give it up
@@kaikai-pb7fh nice to see
U seem quite unaware of history.
Subcontinent was ours. We snatched it back from the thief England
@@YaseenKhan-ev6pyeverything you have was a hand out from the british. Thank them for your education and your country . They gave you amazing land and you still csnt make the most of it and still desperate to come to england to live amongst your forefathers.
This did NOT start October the 7th no matter how you spin it. You know Palestinians were slaughtered every single day before October the 7th. It only mattered to you when Zionists were hurt on October the 7th.
the host is either brainwashed , either disingenuous.
Both. He's singing from the IOF propaganda playbook.
He is a propagandist trying to steer the narative. Don't be fool. He knows what he is doing and being paid well.
Both. He should know better, but???
Disingenuous
AIPAC money running through his veins 😂😂😂
This chapter also did not start on Oct 7.
It DID NOT start on October 7th!! Just because Israel and the West are used to the status quo’s of the OCCUPATION and APARTHEID practices, it doesn’t mean that Palestinians don’t have the RIGHT TO RESIST.
The protests are peaceful until the Police get involved
Yes the conflict between Israel and Palestine started on October the 7th 1948 by the colonial British, Israel has continued with it since.
Thank you, and not a week goes by...
The argument could be made that the plan for it was set in place since the 1917 Balfour Declaration, which promised Palestine to the Jewish people.
@@mohammedsaleh7 With one condition, any humans found on the land, not be persecuted.
Because the British were given the mandate of Palestine by the League of Nations, after the Great War , when Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire.
The ottomans lost the war.
@@eddiecalderoneThe League didn't intend for them to do Nakba 1948.
Matt Frei should become an IDF spokesman. He claims one statement has two meanings, when he says what the Israelis mean is different to Palestinians, when they say: "From the River to the Sea!"
Your problem in the UK and the West is that you start your debate by Hamas, who is the bad guy in the story, and then you ask what we do?
Wrong start. Under international law, Israel is a state, and hamas has the right to resist that's states occupation.
Now you can start your debate.
You are being ignorant when saying that everything starts in october 7th.
Being Jewish is the same being Israeli. Katherine are Jewish or Israeli. We are against Israel 🇮🇱. Palestine fight is a fight for Nationhood not Anti-Jew. So if Israel must exist; does that mean Palestine cannot exist? This host is dishonest and disgusting with his gaslighting.
No, he is a fair interviewer.
@@victormeidan1062if he was fair he would present the facts about Israel’s brutal treatment of the Palestinians since its establishment and how Hamas (only been around since 1987) is a symptom of the problem and NOT the problem by itself. The issue is the abuse, occupation, and apartheid policies that Israel has been subjecting Palestinians to for over 75 years with IMPUNITY! Zionists have been able to use emotional blackmail and illegitimate screams of antisemitism to quash crucial and debate but because it has been so transparent in its barbarity since 10/7, this change in fortunes fir Israel in the court of public opinion is completely self-inflicted!
You are 100% right
Maximum respect to the students
In response to the second female caller, average Israeli Citizens regard all Gazans as Hamas, so the willful ignorance and the extreme arrogance goes both ways.
She is scared. A lot of Jews are scared. She has been told repeatedly by the media that there are Jew hate marches all around the country. They're wrong. She's wrong. They are not hate marches. They are anti war protests. I blame the media and politicians, and especially Israel lobbyists and propagandists.
Well the vast majority of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are of the idea that Israel should not exist.
Proud of the students!!!
It did not begin October 7th. Absolute lies.
A metric ton of false balance and unexamined antipalestinian racism spackled all over this segment and demonstrated by the host.
Totally agree.
Also agree. His bias is leaking and he seems oblivious to it. He also seems bad at maths when it sounds as if 1200 dead on Oct 7 is too much but 34,000 dead 203 days later is still cause for intellectual debate in a comfortable studio.
Free Palestine ❤
How do you negotiate with Zionists?
BDS is the only way to go
We don’t negotiate with terrorists.
What’s so ironic is that Historic Palestine was a land for people of Muslim, Jewish, and Christian faiths. But one group decided it wanted the land all for itself (with Britain and the US’s backing). It’s like a real-life “Avatar”.
War crimes are war crimes who ever does It 🤔
Soon as he said the beginning was Oct 7, I tuned out. Is he will willfully ignorant or in denial or what
He's a willful coward
You lot need to get a hobby
For the perspective of the Zionists this started on 7 October but for Palestinians and most humankind this started in 1948.
This conflict absolutely did not start on October 7. Please, you cannot have a platform like this and do such little research.
Yes, October 7 was a normal quiet day in Israel. Nothing much happened on that day
Hah hah ah ah !!
Where's Sangita Myska?
Ousted, I hear
Proud of the younger generation. This is always how it starts ✊🏻
I am such an idiot. I always follow a calender that goes from January 1 to December 31 .... such an idiot I am .... history and calenders start on October 7.
You didn't mind when england gave you a muslim state.. in 1946, give india their land back .
This start october 7th?
Are you living in a cave
Where is Sangita?
There's a petition to reinstate her
"How can you distinguish Hamas from civilians, you cannot".
Let's just say that children are pretty reliably NOT Hamas.
Yet Israel blows up children playing at a foozeball table. Volunteer UK, American doctors report children coming in shot in the head, chest by Israeli snipers... not crossfire, literally straight up shot. Hind Rajab, 6 yrs old, was known to be the only one alive in the car, and Red Crescent had permission of IDF to send paramedics... IDF killed both paramedics and Hind. Premature babies that IDF promised to move to another hospital when they evacuated the hospital, but were left alone to die and rot in their incubators were not Hamas.
50% of the population is children. Then there are all the elderly, disabled, sick, most women, not Hamas.. but all starved, homeless and deprived of medical care and clean water.
Journalists wearing Press jackets are not Hamas. Aid workers are no Hamas.
And on and on.
It is absolutely disingenuous to throw up one's hands and say, we just cannot differentiate.
I wish I could hit the like button on this comment a thousand times.
This DID NOT start on the 7th of October. It started before the foundation of Israel
Where’s sangita?
If this current injustice is not enough to make you protest, I don’t know what is
The young people will not be brainwashed. They do their own research and make their own decision as to the truth. They are not persuaded by money, the government only by their own humanity. Basically treat others as you would like to be treated. We are all equal.
You can recognise a baby in an incubator, you reckon you can recognise a child on the beach. Calling everyone Hamas is not helpful.
The caller mistakenly said 36 babies were killed on the Israeli side on oct 7th!! There were only 2 and they were not beheaded ! And of course this LBC tow the co. line journalist doesn't correct him- terrible !
US most WANTED Biden and Israel most WANTED Netanyahu
Alittle more complex than that. a lot didn’t want trump and the democrats blocked bernie sanders
Most of us hate Biden and Trump.
'US most HATED Biden and Israel most HATED Netanyahu' is more like it
@mialbm3329 bernie supports Isreal too. The issue is America Christians support Isreal and that not either party.
😂😂😂😂😂
Now why is it that context matters to the host only until October 7th, but apparently not for anything before that? And this lazy “both siderism” is a huge part of how the region has come to this point. Old white British guys started this mess in 1948, so it’s wild to see this host preach the same foolishness.
And kudos to that third caller (the male student) who called in! You could hear the host get shaken a little in his pre-scripted responses. The kids are alright. 💯
Where is Sangita Myska?
the israelis govt also dont want a two state solution.
Hamas has constantly turned down a two State solution, do keep up.
This didn’t happen on October 7 but it lead to happen on October 7
At the 2:42 point, Frei says that "This particular chapter ... did have a beginning on October the 7th, did it not?" No it didn't. That statement presumes that prior to October 7th there was no reason for Palestinians to have any grievance against how Israel was treating them and that the attack couldn't have been anticipated given said treatment. That's not true and is only credible if you ignore how Palestinians have been treated for the last 75 years by Israel as second class citizens living in an apartheid state.
Agree. Palestinan's were being killed in 2023 before 7th Oct
Those who told you they don’t support Hamas, did they tell you they enjoyed living under Israeli occupation? Did they say they would have wanted to maintain their status quo where Israelis enjoy many more rights and freedoms and they live in an open prison with no hope? This is not a “saga” as you called it. This is a long lasting story of injustice, occupation and apartheid. You are portraying it as a fight between two angry children! You disgust me.
It happened before October 7th
Why not a one state with everybody having equal rights?....
Too late for one state.
@@donodono2287 U can't just throw words around... What are u basing your statement on?..
Because one side wants a majority and there's too many Palestinians so that side can't get what they want if they do that.
@@Teboho-RSAone side is a Jewish majority state and they want that to remain forever
@@RevolutionaryVision-pc3gw well, unfortunately for them, the majority is organic not designed
Let’s be clear, it did not start on October 7th.
how many nuances are there in occupation and apartheid, Matt?
You have 130 hostages in Gaza but since then in WESTBANK 8000 innocent Palestinians have been arrested. What about those hostages. FREE ALL HOSTAGES. ON BOTH SIDES. There is no HAMAS IN WESTBANK.
What aboutism
not only since then, majority of Palestinian hostages are in prison without any trial or charges, YEARS before Oct 7
@@TheMaskedMuslim why can't we say both are wrong, both are inflicted on innocent people, and that the instigators on both sides who do this are in the wrong? Why is there a binary approach?
We can. But would Israel stop doing it? @@MarlboroughBlenheim1
@@adhuna1009 you're back to the binary "Israel" or "Palestine". The thousands of innocent people - women, the elderly, young children - on both sides are not making decisions about this. They are simply suffering. I don't draw a distinction between the innocent on both sides. I draw a distinction with the guilty on both sides. But for political reasons many want to apply a binary approach, simplified and facile, which is that any Israeli is automatically in the wrong.
Wow! Bury the hatchet and accept your oppression? 😮 the framing and wild claims while complaining about propaganda is jarring
Someone must have bought this up before but, how has no one ever discussed the narrative of how should Hammas or Palestinians have reacted to the years of persecution, repression, alienation and bombardment from Israel?
Where’s Sangita 😢😢
What's happened to Sangita Myska? One of the best journalists in the business.
Dear caller two, people are suggesting a state that respects human rights and international law. It is NOT complicated nor a mystery.
On Oct 7 women and children made up around 360 casualties out of 1200, as opposed to the majority of Israel's victims in Gaza being women and children. You can see which side is taking more care to minimise civilian casualties.
2 minutes into the video and stopped. IT DID NOT START ON OCT 7!!!!!!!
Why do you not want to discuss one state from the river to the sea (regardless of the name of it) for jews and Palestinians equally.
Exactly! Why is that not an option?
"Young people speaking their mind getting so much resistance from behind. A thousand people in the street, what a field day for the heat", For what it's worth, Buffalo Springfield.
😂 Still using History begins“ October 7th clock ⏰ .
If you think Oct 7 is the start of this conflict you are deluded. 2023 was the deadliest year for Palestinians in the West Bank BEFORE Oct 7 since detailed records have been kept since the early 2000s
It didn’t start on the 7th of October for your information
LBC = Leading British Circus
😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅
Camps wars??? Matt what the F**k???
History proves students protests were always on the right side ......
Did not start on 0ct 7th
The thing is all three faiths did coexist, until Zionists
this "both sides" argument is so tired. can't "both sides" this if one side explicitly rejects the 2 state solution.
In 2018 Israeli soldiers shot over 6,000 Palestinians. In many cases they were shot with illegal expanding ammunition. So, did the present iteration of this problem begin on 7th October 2023 (1,200 casualties) or March/Dec 2018 (6,000 casualties) Discus ??
Stop commenting on this if you don't know what the heck's going on there are Jewish students in the protest there is no antisemitism in the protest college professors and even parents and also Jewish students are in support of the protest then Palestine there are no two sides shouting at each otherthere is the police arresting students parents and teachers and the university authorities letting it happen trampling on their first amendment rights