0x0018 - The Full Office 97 Floppy Experience
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- Druaga1 sent me an "invite.doc" and I needed to open it. Office 97 install time I guess....
If you've seen any of my later videos on this laptop you'll know that I do actually have a parallel port CD drive for it. I just couldn't resist trying out the full experience of installing Office off of floppy disks.
One of the audio channels was cutting in and out this time so I had to change it to mono after the fact and manually rebalance everything.
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Everytime a new bag is opened, it's like opening a pack of Trading Cards. Except all the mystery and excitement of pulling a rare card is replaced with more floppy disks.
Yes, but there's the mystery and excitement of pulling a floppy that doesn't work. Well, not excitement. More like dread.
The computer equivalent of watching paint dry. Best hour of my life, period.
I used to work as a painter, I have watched paint dry a few times. This video is much better, it's not the whiskey I'm consuming that says that. This video is pure excitement!
This is the computer equivalent to NASCAR races. We're all just sitting here waiting for the one turn that runs a car into the wall. A failed disk, a drive failure, some kind of other catastrophic failure of the computer, etc. When working with things this old, you just never know what's going to work.
Insert last disk only to find its corrupted
Exactly, that is what happened to me in 1999 while trying to bring a very large neogeo rom to a friend with a cd burner, 25 floppy X4 (first write, fault check, second write, second check)
*Cries out loud*
@@fabiosemino2214 Same here , i was trying to winzip a 30mbs rom in 25/30 floppy disks and the 2 disk ended with read errors.
Wouldn't the chances of corruption been avoided if the contents of all the floppies were copied to the HD and installed it from there?
@@andrewszombie Absolutely true.
I wonder how many people actually watched the whole thing. I did and it was worth it. The story had drama, problem solving, investigating, and suspense. Would recommend 10/10.
It's certainly a journey. I'm doing it while waiting on an install of my own.
I watched the whole thing too :D
Agreed. Would recommend 46/46
Agreed. Would recommend. 10 Luigis / 10 Luigis
Up next: The Full Windows 8.1 Floppy Experience
As if the user experience for Windows 8.1 couldn't get any worse? That would be, what, 2,500-3,000 floppy disks?
Yea but that’s what makes it an akbkuku vid
Matsumoto-san Desu r/woooosh
Dammit missed the opportunity for that one
Poll: Which is worse? Vista or ME?
Thanks for the painful memories. Now I can share them with my friends and family. After my parents handed me the package of floppies they also handed me a box of 100 brand new floppies. They informed me that I wasn't allowed to install Office until I had made backups of the originals. And yes, one floppy was bad during my install too.
Cd was a god send gift
Yeah until stuff got so big it out grew CDs and started coming on multi disk CD Roms :)
Anyone care to try installing GTA:V on CDs?
@@scotshabalam2432 These days installing games from DVDs would be similar to installing Office 97 back in the day. DOOM 2016 is ~75 GB, and games only are getting bigger with every year. Thank God for the Internet, and I sincerely hope that we won't need another solution anytime soon.
@@Reloaded2111 Thank god for hundreds of meg per second fibre with no data caps. Could you imagine back when you had time limits on dial up before you started being charged trying to download large files? We've come a long way
@@Reloaded2111 Well, 75GB would be 2 BluRays or one BluRay XL, so that wouldn't be a big problem.
@@ferrari2kSure, except for the fact that almost no one has Blu-ray drives on computers.
Quality entertainment.
For some reason, I assumed you'd make a micro-controller powered device that automatically removes the floppy, replaces it, and presses enter, and that would be the entire video. Just watching a robotic arm remove/insert disks and hit the enter key.
What if he done that and the arm was so realistic that you didnt see?
That would have been a better solution than the one he ended up with.
That's not really a proper Office 97 installation experience though. You need to feel the frustration of watching someone do it manually.
Plot twist, he was a robot all along.
You could have a simple machine that advances the disk image on a Gotec and presses enter for you as well. Not as tactile an experience as handling disks, but it would be an added complication. Or... just use the CD install. 🤣
And I thought installing Windows 95 from floppies was ridiculous...
Fuzy2K i installed os 2 with floppies and i got an error on the installation
It is.
Windows 98 is worse
god yeah, installing windows 95 from floppies with a system with 8 MB of ram, Christ I was on all morning!
I remember the excitement of Installing Win 95 via disk. The fun of inserting Disk #1 & discovering it had a bad disk sector. The miracle of trying ChkDsk on it & it worked. I miss those times.......NOT! ;)
*Installs 46 floppy drives in my computer for maximum install performance*
erica I wonder if that is even possible
I bet that would sound amazing DRRRRR DRR DRUURRRRR THUNK THUNK THUNK GKIK GKIK GKIK DURRRRRRRRR
Ahmed Jan it is not because the controller setup that IBM went for in the original PC only allowed two drives at a time and dos was hardcoded to put those on the drive letters A for the first most probably 3.5 inch drive with 1.44mb and B for the 1.2mb or 360kb 5.25 inch drive. Modern windows is still based around these limitations so even with unlimited free USB ports windows can only handle two floppy disk drives at a time, no matter if internal or external. However, on other systems like the commodore Amiga you could use up to four 3.5 inch or 5.25 inch drives or a mix of those. That eventually gave the user the ability to use up to 3.52 MB of disk space (split out over 4 880kb disks which is the most common disk size that the Amiga file system allowed on floppy disks) and also a way of having to do less disk swapping because the Amiga automatically looked for the disk it needed to for example install the Amiga OS and Workbench onto an hard disk drive, in every drive, so you could insert the install disk in df0 (df0 to df3 are the floppy disk drive "letter" equivalents on the Amiga), df0 is the only bootable floppy drive, and the extras disk in df1 so the computer could switch between the two disks without needing the user to swap the disk every time it needed to read some files from the other one, like you would have to do on an IBM PC or compatible, like the one most of us are using all the time today, because programs and operating systems for these ask the user for on specific install directory and cannot jump between directories like the Amiga could.
Nils Pc Vids ah I see
Thank you for the explanation
YOU GET THE FLOPPOTRON
I knew you were crazy :D But this is plain out masochistic :D Love this channel!
I think the craziest thing is playing Doom (or any game) on a passive display
"The Full Office 97 Floppy Experience"
>Plays Doom
yeah that seems about right
You could have gotten bonus points for Quake II.
@Hexo2000 Ever tried running Office 97 + Windows 95 on a 486?
I would'we cried if I had a floppy only pc in 1997 and I needed office
I installed many floppy disk-only software back in ~1997, some of which was more than 46 disks each. It actually didn't seem that bad back then because there was no other alternative. I was happy with any software that had fewer than 25 disks. Photoshop was the only one I dreaded installing.
46 likes, 46 disks
Office 97 was released in 1996. Decent CD Drives were still a pretty expensive option at the time, and definitely a luxury not a necessity.
@@VicInCommentSection Woah, what was the highest number you ever encountered?
Back then, I couldn't have afforded Office anyway. Shit would've set me back over 1000 D-Mark back in Germany, with or without floppies. Thank God Office isn't as cost prohibitive today than it was 20 years ago.
The feel when inserting floppy disk is so satisfying
I can't... I can't believe you're doing this, I can't believe I'm watching it.
You're a man of commitment, focus, and sheer f*cking will.
How would someone deal with one of their 46 disks being bad in 1997? That must've been catastrophic.
The disk was probably bad due to it's age. While it's unlikely to have had this happen when it was new, I'm sure Microsoft would send you a replacement disk if you called them.
And of course it would be disk 43 that has gone bad.
The disks can come factory bad to begin with I know because I did a diskette install of O'97 back in the 90s with my Dad we had to go back up to CompUSA and trade ours in.
The great thing about computer problems for me when I was a teen is my Dad and I had little in common except computer skills so we could always meet on common ground when we were fixing PCs. Good memories but maybe not of installing Office 97.
I don't know what you have rigged for a HD and 1.44 drive but that thing smokes what we had back in the 90s. I remember this install being an all day thing.
@@TechTangents They would I think there was a small charge for the shipping if memory serves but they were pretty good about stuff like that surprisingly.
I've had bad disks, bad drives, bad hdds and power outages. I have been sent onsite to do multiple installs of Windows, Office and more. It was my most hated part of the job.
I would be lying if I said you shouldn't bother to image those disks
You know every time you copy an official Microsoft floppy it sends an email to Bill Gates with your home address.Don't copy that floppy!!!
*BUY ONE FOR EVERY COMPUTER YOU USE*
joseph fulks It would be an honor to have Bill show up at my house.
*gasp* But that would be....... PIRACY!!!!!
well... this is abandonware though
I'm wanting to design a wall clock with the floppy seek noise for seconds, Ding for every hour and logon sound for 12 pm. A frameless design with the standard grey analogue clock from within Windows 9X settings.
Enjoying me some classic Akbkuku. The writing and line delivery on some these is so bad it's good.
They even had a full windows 95 release on Floppy. I used to have it, I got it for a project computer I was doing in high school, i got it for free from the computer lab teacher. It ended up running just fine on a 286/12mhz with 1mb ram. It took a mighty 23 disks @ a compressed 2.88MB each.
1. Windows 95 won't run on a 286.
2. Windows 95 will run horribly slow with 1MB of RAM.
3. Windows 95 came on 13 floppies, not 23.
4. Microsoft used DMF; a 3.5" floppy contained 1680KB, not 2.88MB.
This video is like ASMR. It's very relaxing to have playing in the background while I do other things. 😁
Reminds me of SpongeBob quietly hammering a nail
lol
TheVividYoshi sad part is I know exactly what episode we are talking about here... Spongebob and Patrick were not the best at building a to scale house, were they? Lol
This spongebob episode is, Home Sweet Pineapple
I've installed Office 97 for a customer with this same method, and at no charge... regrettably wish I had charged a fee... A 50 disk floppy changer would come in handy here! :D
I had been going through your videos and considering subscribing. The Tron reference at the beginning of the install got me, though. Keep up the good work, AkBKukU!
Something special about seeing an install from floppy when almost all if not all installs are made from online media or USB
Loving IT
The thing the REALLY amazes me about this video is that these disks still work after over 20 years! That is amazing for floppy disks! OK, apart from one! This is definitely a unique video. I cannot see anyone else doing this. Not even LGR! Also, I hope you remembered to register. You are important to Microsoft. I wonder if it was ever on 360kb 5 1/4 inch floppies too?
I’m so glad you took the time to make this video, the people need proof to see what life was like
I remember doing this so many times. I so glad will never have to do this again.
Our family computer was a Aptiva with Windows 3.1 and OS/2 Warp. My Dad then mailed away for the Windows 95 upgrade disk. Then later brought home a copy of Office 95 on floppies. Sat watching him swap out floppies was awesome for young me;
0:43 I thought you'd make up some fake Palm Desktop or ActiveSync type thing… and you went so far as to create an AOL Mail account 1 hour before recording?
I’m amazed that Microsoft still honours the offer more than 20 years later. Maybe they have a warehouse full of Office 97 floppies.
Great stuff, thank you!
The best part was when the evil master of hellfire and soup goulash appeared.
Clippy always gives me goosebumps (especially 5 years later and at Halloween **g** )
So pleased I have the CD version!!
I can remember the horror even now of installing Win95 from floppy. That was "only" 29 disks, and that was waaaaay too many.
Office 97 was really the only version of Office anyone ever really needed. You could use that today with bug fixes and security updates and it would work just fine. CD/Thumb drive installer would be the only improvements needed.
It upsets me a little that we really haven't moved beyond computing like it's the 1990's. People use modern desktops the way they used them in the 90's, just they're online more. Web browsers, chat clients, games, productivity software. 20 years worth of living with these things and computer literacy hasn't really increased.
Office 97: number refers to number of floppies.
When I saw the first floppy being inserted I giggled because so many bad, bad, bad memories of this. I was actually glad it wasn't me.
I remember installing Windows 3.11 like this. A whole afternoon feeding floppy drives. It was always an exciting and troublesome journey.
But WFW was only 8 disks...
@@UthacalthingTymbrimi even 8 floppies would be a slow adventure...
That data corruption on Disk 10 reminds me of this orange diskette I had that had Lemmings on it, and it would have corrupted images, and the only stage that was playable before crashing had all the lemmings walk like two inches then falling to there doom, with the door impossible to reach. I might still have a backup of that game corruption, but I'm not too sure as I've over-written it with a Catacomb 3D demo that came from a gaming magazine for Dos.
Oh god, I remember that. I thought OS/2 was bad with its install. Fortunately I had a CD for WIn95... I think that one hit 30?
Upgrade was around 15 floppies. Wonder if I still have that around somewhere.
I forgot I left this playing and when I put my headset back on, I was confused by the floppy sound.
Riveting is the only word to describe this masterpiece
Truly had me on the edge of my seat the whole time.
Good vid BTW..... nostalgic memories of yester years gone by :)
This is AMAZING... and I just started watching.
Too bad, even the oldest of my PC's (K62) has a CD Rom... I can't genuinely put myself though the same torture.
I remember playing Rise of the Dragon on the Amiga, which came on 10 floppies. Every time you entered a new room you had to swap diskettes, and wait 30-40 seconds. A harddrive was the single best investment ever.
I remember doing this exact same thing back in the nineties, LOL, floppy after floppy.
Out of curiosity, in which year was this received / did Microsoft last offer this service? Do you happen to know?
I wonder how many people are now going to try and send in for this floppy version.
Disk #10 just had to be the drama Queen.
They sure don't print manuals like that anymore.
I wondered how you were going to make disk 10 work with a CAB file that's larger that 1.44mb. Going to have to try that format program. I have several original Microsoft floppies with that odd format that are bad. Awesome video!
This is one of the main reasons CD drives for computers were so popular in their day I purchased my first CD rom drive at $400.00 it was a External SCSI drive after installing this software on my computer by floppy. I had a few issues with the scsi card and getting my HP Scanjet 4c and all of my other SCSI drive toys to play well with the CD but it was worth it. As my girlfriend put it we are going from the Red Baron's tri wing biplane to a F4- Phantom in one day! What is next F4 to SR-71?
1:40 Ooohh that floppy head seeking... how nostalgic 🤤
I guess that's a good floppy drive stress test/benchmark
24:38 The tension!!!! I remember those problems.
I find it pleasant that the floppy reading sounds like a pendulum clock
Something tells me that NCommander, Druaga1, Shelby, and Ken of the Computer Clan need to get together for some form of archaic, esoteric installation sensation.
It wouldnt surprise me if one told me that the actual "glue" software (that verifies and checks the installation progress etc) uses up more disk area per floppy than the actual office program data.
I use this video to help time my baths.
Desert Bus: Office Edition
As someone who lived through such experiences on a daily basis, I get why you made this, but I think the point would've been made after the first pack. You could've proceeded forward at an accelerated speed, returning to real-time for the failed disk and the EULA, then back to fast-forward to the end.
The largest floppy-based program I recall installing was 22 floppies, I think it was WordPerfect. And because I was into graphics and CGI, I was always loading fist fulls of disks. It's no wonder there was a run on CD drives when they first came out.
As a support tech back in the day, I did this once, and immediately regretted it. Next day, I copied all the files onto our NetWare server, put the disks in a cupboard, and never touched them again.
The only thing that would make this better would be a fresh install of Windows 98 from floppy right before installing Office.
I'm sure this was commented already but I *think* you didn't do a full install because of the grey tick boxes on some of the programs, there probably are more things to select for each program in these cases, and it was 'only' 165ish megabyte where the maxed out would be 190ish. So this calls for a complete do-over ;-) ;-)
Now you've gotta install Windows 95 and 98SE from floppy disks. :3
I believe only Standard Edition of 98 was available on floppy disks
I guess that's why a CDROM drive was a necessary upgrade in the mid 90s.
I remember installing Window 95 via a huge stack of disks like this.
I love it when you share your amazing adventures with tech with us.
Except this. More VVVVVV please :)
...Wait, what happened to installers that let you play a game while waiting?
I'm late to the party, but I actually laughed out load to that amount of floppies. I thought installing Win95 was bad.
Small hard floppies are the best, can't have as much fun with big soft floppies.
The switch from floppy disks to CD made all other computing improvements seem small in comparison.
How about a video installing Microsoft mail 3.5? I can’t seem to find that on the net anywhere.
Te imaginas que se valla la luz jajaja XD.. EMPEZAR DE NUEVO.
Para eso los programadores de la época tenían un plan b que era solo borrar los datos corruptos e instalar un programa que te permitía continuar desde donde dejaste la instalación
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Don't copy that floppy!
The copyright law, it will tell you what to do
*Buy one, for every computer you use*
Anything else is like going to the store
Taking the disk, and walking out the door
It's called thiefin', stealin', taking what's not yours
IIRC later Microsoft products like Office 97, NT 4.0 and Windows 95 used a special DMA format which was 1.68MB instead of 1.44, but it was easy to defeat :P
Don't floppy that copy!
@@15fakeaccount yeah right, i buy a pc for my personal use and I will install anything I want on it, and then I will buy a 2nd pc and install the same software on it as i did the first time round cos its my fucking copy i paid for! fuck them criminal extortionists.
Oh, look at the forgotten papel clip helper 🤣 miss those days 🙃 when we were pioneers of modern informatics and we looked like wizards 🤭 in the eyes of ordinary people. Greetings ✌️
Your laptop don't have a soundcard? I just heard doom sound like that when i installed dos onto my usb stick and ran doom on a netbook.
Welcome to 1994, laptops did not have sound cards then. There were some parallel port sound cards but I don't have one yet. They aren't very well supported though.
Wow, i didnt know that. I tought they had a simplistc version of some kind of soundblaster
AkBKukU Hey, 8-bit guy posted yesterday a video about a paralel port soundcard for those laptops. You maybe wanna check it out.
I saw that. It's definitely cool but I'm more interested in the games he said did not work well with it unfortunately. In this case Doom would have had music but still the same PC speaker sound effects. If one comes out that can do full sound blaster support then it would be more up my alley.
AkBKukU that would unfortunately be very hard to technically realize because of the parallel ports lack of dma, which is essential for sound cards as you might already know from all the conflicts and stuff that people had to mess with back in the day. The world has pretty much got to a point when it was never easier to use a pc, even 1 year old children own their very own tablet unfortunately in this day in age. There seems to be no real fun with building and using PCs anymore because they do everything for you and you literally just have to plug it in and play.
This is like the time when I did a new installation of Final Fantasy XI on a dial up modem. 1 hour for the main installation and about a day for the updates/patches.
I hope we are living in a simulation....I can't think of any other reason why I had to see this to the end :)
Nostalgia of hearing a floppy drive operating. xD Wow!
Life was hard 😌
I remember them days. Felt like a tech pro changing all them disks lol. Time consuming but good times lol.
Is it sad to say I enjoyed this
Keep up the great work
have my likes sir for this amazing video
After that: you got mail! And now.... it's a .docx
takes me back installing windows 95 on college computers with floppies what a nightmare!!! In fact I remember an ex boss once was cleaning up the office and he thrown the entire disk sets of Windows NT 4.01 OS in the trash, I only spotted them when i went to the dumpster and found the lot thrown in the trash... omg --- ironic i been there a few times installing office, novell and windows from floppies .. thank god for CD-ROM, networking and pkzip/pkunzip :D
My tears have fallen.
I miss you Clippy. RIP
I had enough when installing Microsoft Office 4.2 a few years ago with only 22 floppy disks.
Holy s**t. This floppy install process is long enough to kill me. And the manual is almost thicker than the packing box.
I would put a print of that thumbnail on my wall if such a print were available.
I dont know if thats what you want, but here it is a hq thumbnail:
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its linked in the description
I went ahead and put it up on my Deviantart profile as well and enabled the print option if you do want one:
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I have no idea how comparable their prices or quality are though.
AkBKukU You're wonderful. Thank you!
F L O P P Y D I S C C
I saw people doing this with their ancient laptops while aboard airplane. Unfortunately by the time they got to the last disk, they maybe had 40 minutes remaining on battery with which to use the applications. At the time it was very amusing seeing someone doing something so mundane as installing software while flying across the country.
did mailing that in really work? i know its a stupid question but goes to reason its plausible. seriously though did it work?
oh cool.
Man disk 10 was intense
I went and looked at the office 2010 professional EULA, and it allows you to install a copy on your desktop and a copy on your laptop as well.
I'm surprised that 2010 allows that. I was more meaning Office 365 since they charge you per computer.
AkBKukU the O365 sub i get through my community college lets me have at least two "full sized" (read: non-phone) installations, and I think I could probably have up to 5
as it stands though i have it on my 2012 Mac mini and my cheap Windows laptop at the same time and both work great
I give my wife a Floppy Experience on the second Friday of every third month.
oh the pain of doing this....oh the memories. I do not miss those days.
Great video
LOL! 46 discs. Truly an exercise in futility.
Man if I would have received an invite like that back then, I would have been pissed that it's wasn't just directly typed in the email!
I was really expecting that attachment to be a virus