Are They "Woke" for Changing Their Band Name?
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Today is an interesting one. We're going to listen to UK punk band Soft Play's song "Punk's Dead" which addresses the outrage people had when they changed their name from Slaves. What do you think? Is punk dead or are they keeping it alive?
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Missed the best lyric of the song:
“Johnny Rotten is turning in his bed, I was going to say grave but the fucker ain’t dead”
That is very funny 😅
❤
Sounds like an Eminem lyric the way i read it in my mind 😂
Thats a dumb lyric its just stating the obvious. Its a nothing statement, it means nothing.
@@GaryBlack-m1l it doesn’t have to have a deep meaning to be a good lyric.
The story goes that Bobbie Vylan (from Bob Vylan) made a joke to Laurie from Slaves about not being able to wear the merch due to him being black, and Laurie agreed. They talked about new names and Bobbie suggested Soft Play, Laurie loved it and here we are! He changed it for his friend, I think its wholesome!
Bob vylan is solid
Never knew that was the reason..makes sense, interesting.
source?
@@0xM4ND bob vylan said it himself at a live show I went to, the rock city one
@@tgw7069 very good! I heard the guys not really give a clear answer about how they chose the name and it did sound more or less like they chose it themselves 😂 vylan is a more interesting backstory
I seen Soft Play last night in Leeds, they were supporting The Prodigy, they absolutely brought the fire 🔥
What a fuckin awesome gig that was! 👍🏻
I met Punk at a charity do once. Surprisingly down to earth and very funny
Paul Punk?
@@silver47officialno the whole genre
@@SubparLoki Eh?
Benny Harvey RIP ❤
He was just a fuckin kid
I love Soft Play and I love that you're giving them this exposure! They're such a great band. I loved them as Slaves, but their reasoning for changing their name just made me love them more. They're excellent live, they know how to put a tune together and they have values that I respect and admire. And the new song kicks ass. Love.
So you love them even more for selling out and pandering to the woke crap
they showed great courage by folding like wet blankets
@@tcon2809Do you have any idea how risky it is to change the name of an established brand, especially when the brand is a band?
@@Bagofnowt you mean like changing Twitter to X ?
@@tcon2809WHOOOOOOOOSH 😂😂😂
Can confirm that their live shows are fucking awesome. Saw them in a really small pub venue on the day their last album dropped. So much energy, sweat and noise! They hung around after the show for a few drinks too.
Why are you swearing for no reason?
@@FormulaProg who the fuck cares
was about to say the same, seen them twice now and each time is fucking hectic haha
Well my prayers were answered, reacting to soft play has made my evening. They deserve so much more attention, this track has been on repeat for me since release.
They deserve cancelling by everyone who cares about REALITY
I wish they were supporting Bob Vylan instead of the prodigy next month
Amazing tune that continues to piss off those who simply do not get the point. People who throw terms around like “snowflake” are the biggest reactionary cry babies you’ll find, and this song hits those morons hard. ❤
Couldn't agree more, for every 1 person getting offended there's a thousand "you can't say anything these days" merchants having a meltdown
It's so funny because the whole point of the punk movement is to do what you want and to not be beholden to other people. There's a certain irony in people being pissed off over something Isaac and Laurie wanted to do and saying punk is dead because of it.
@@-Jesternah, they pussied out. End of story.
@@MattCassCooknah, you are just a crybaby “waa waa slaves have been around since humans began waa”
@@MattCassCook Snowflake
I think you should stick with Non-Premium-CZcams! Always gives me a good laugh to see you dealing with the annoying ads like us regular folk 😂😘 Greetings from Germany, looking forward to Köln!
I saw this pair play at the Wagon & Horses in Digbeth, I think they'd just released their first EP or mini album or something like that, a mate of mine had done the artwork. The energy and power was immense. The singer was dressed in a 50s style shirt and zoot trousers which was a pretty cool juxtaposition with the musical fury!
It's punk they have changed their name. People would expect usually a band to stick with a name but they've just went ahead and done it regardless of what people think.
I just thought it was odd at first they changed their name from a marketing perspective but it's their band and their art what they do with it is their choice :)
Your genuine happiness is uplifting....peace and love Justin...
Your reaction to hearing it for the first time is just like mine was. Such a good sound ln my ears and I love the changes in tempo
Most people who claim punk is dead wouldn't even recognize most original late 70s punk as punk.They think punk is a sound they heard in a Sex Pistols documentary once.
It is dead though. The ethos is dead definitely. Instead of anarchists the people wearing the punk uniform advocate for authoritarianism.
Or they think Green Day is punk.
Most people who utter the word punk have no idea what they are talking about. They were/are not part of punk culture, made no contribution and merely glanced from the outside, like a white boy walking past a Chinese restaurant once and thinking they now know Mandarin and Chinese history and culture.
Crass declared punk dead in 1978 and they were probably right...
I'll admit that I'd not heard of them, but they supported The Prodigy at the Utilita Arena in Birmingham recently and they were amazing! They came on to The Vengaboys which was hilarious, and then smashed it! Their energy was infectious and unwavering! The crowd were bouncing and I loved every minute that they were on the stage! I looked them up as soon as I got home, they've got a new fan right here! Changing their name is totally understandable as far as I can see, it's their choice, if people don't like it, that's their problem, not the bands?
Went to see Soft Play (In the Slaves days) about 6/7 years ago in Aberdeen at a gig with about 200 people. Best gig I've ever been to in my life.
Never heard of these guys thanks for the take.
Punk has died more times than Jason Voorhees and risen from the ashes every time. Yeah it’s never going to be the Ramones again but that’s fine with me. Everything should go forward not backward.
Digging the channel Justin nice work, see you again soon
great comment
@@BigHeartMusicOfficialthanks. Just commenting on how many times I’ve heard punk is dead…but soft play carries the torch with this song. You can’t be more punk than destroying your own “fans” for (the ways and reasons they were) complaining about changing your band name. Watch their live in Reading video. Punk is alive and well, cheers
10 stars for the comment , pure genius!
As a forward facing progressive movement punk should be changing with the times. The only people saying punk is dead are fat old men who didn't care about politics and wanted to drink and fight. The Ramones playing rock and roll really fast was kinda cool I guess but they also wrote boring rock 'n' roll cliches lyrically and had shit politics. There's a reason they had mass appeal.
Crass - Punk is Dead (1979)
That review was spot on. Slaves were great, Softplay Brilliant and Baby Dave outstanding in my book Isaac Holman is simply a creative genius!
As someone from the New Orleans are, I can tell you pretty much no one would be offended by hurricane parties. People around here have hurricane parties when they stay and ride out a storm instead of evacuating. I get why some might think it's insensitive, but yeah, not to us.
Totally support the name change. Fantastic track. (Downloading it now.) Hilarious film clip. Kids are great consumers of music so it’s neat that they’re included in visual representation too. Robbie Williams really is a left-field cameo but so welcome! (Sobriety has made him a better entertainer and a more tolerable human.)
I saw 'Slaves' play cafèINDIE in Scunthorpe, their performance was incredible. The energy in the place was one of the most chaotic and energetic I've experienced in long time. They did a Q&A for local musicians before the show which i was part of. Very interesting hearing how they get such a big and aggressive sound with just two people. Punk right to the bone these guys
Kowtowing to the deranged faux-moralising of modern day mainstream leftism isn’t ‘punk’ in the slightest 😅
@@lewisbracken5520 Whatever man 🙄
@@lewisbracken5520whinging about it, even less so
@@lewisbracken5520 the music's still banging mate. What's in a name?
I had no idea bands even came to Scunny. I'm only 20 minutes or so down the road. Any decent venues I should keep my eye on?
Punk is always around somewhere... it's not supposed to be in the mainstream with that whole pop punk thing in the late 90's throughout the 2000's.
The irony of the pop punk thing is the pixies are far more punk than anything in that era.
Punk can’t die.
Keep the free YT. Too many good clips of you taking the piss of the adverts.
What do you do when a vocal part of your fan base hate your new band name?
Write a song using their ridiculous overreactions for lyrics, and make it a banger!
This is a brilliant premise with a punk AF execution.
"Slaves" no more.
Soft Play crushes it! \m/ * * \m/
Slaves beyond all measure actually.
Yeah, right nothing says "punk" like bending to criticism by reactionary philistines with an Apartheid agenda, who try to make everything about skin colour so people forget about the actual oppression by centralised power and about the capitalist class struggle your original band name was about. Real punk rock, and writing a song about the backlash makes it even more punk rock, because antagonism, regardless of context, that's what it's all about.
Changing the name of the band was probably the most Punk thing anyone has done in the scene in years.
Very excited to be seeing you in such a great venue tonight in Tempe! First Darkness show! Loved you at Taylor’s tribute in Wembley. That brought me out tonight!
Awesome show!
I watched them support The Prodigy in Manchester on Friday night. They were indeed fucking awesome!
I didn't really agree with the name change at first, because they've defended what they meant by the name many years ago, which I think was fair. however how they've handled this is pretty fucking cool and regardless of their name you can't deny their sound is something special considering they're just two people. Robbie definitely was an unlikely feature 😂 I do know however that despite the heavy sound they have a lot of pop sentimentalities and a broad taste in music.
They supported The Prodigy this year and omg what an amazing surprise they were
I haven't listened to anything by Slaves for a while, Hypnotized popped into my head today after listening to Nigel Lewis and the Zorchmen as I think they have similar vocal tones..Slaves or Softplay..either name doesn't matter..manic energy from them is great
If they want to change their name then that's entirely their choice. If others don't like it they can always go listen to Ed Sheeran instead.
That did sound awesome, I’m going to have to check these out now.
2:52 I think you should do the opposite of paying for no ads but instead critique all of the CZcams ads!
Punk really lit up any room it entered and was the life and soul of the party. Rest in peace Punk.
Everybody just loved punk. No one ever had a bad thing to say about punk.
So sad. Gone too soon. Xx
You haven't seen Killing Joke live recently obviously.
Punk isn’t dead. It’s just up for sale.
@@Xindigoh Why ? Is Postpunk dead, too?
Public Image Ltd were brilliant too, I loved PIL 🎶
Soft Play are brilliant and I fully support the name change! Was lucky enough to see them early in their musical adventure in Hull. Fantastic energy and they stayed behind to meet everyone afterwards, lovely couple of lads
Woke
@@Beanbag777Keep crying 😂
@@Beanbag777waaahhhh waahhhhh waahhhhhh somebody thinks differently than me waaahhhh wahhhhhhhhhhhh
Saw them live '18 opening for The Prodigy; a single drum, a single guitar or bass with so much distortion that you couldn't tell them apart, and the drum was triggered with a bass punching throughourt the town hall... and their second sond was called "fuck the hihat". So yeah, they are that level of punk. ^^
The tune was fucking awesome and they were right to address the name change so directly like they
Punk's dead, Rock's dead... Well, it's all right, I rather like cemeteries 🙂 Quite liked this, yeah 🙂
Unrelated to the video, BUT I saw The Darkness last night (Oct. 6th) and it was awesome! One of the best shows of my life. I've been listening to you guys since the 9th grade and it was surreal to hear the music live! It was also my partner's birthday and I was having the time of my life thinking, "Is it my birthday or his?" So, thanks!🤘🏾😁
Got my Permission to Land bundle this morning, It's so great!
Glad to see the return of the theme tune intro. As soon as you grab that acoustic I start grinning ear to ear. 🤘
I really like the song. Never got any Talking Heads influence though and the Robbie slot wasn't a high point
This got me saying yes Punk is Not Dead. Love the tongue in cheek presentation. Best new music I have heard for awhile. He reminds me of Ren when he was doing the rap parts. Edit: I have been using CZcams premium for a year and I wouldn't go back.
I hear St Anger in that riff and it definitely doesn’t anger me 😂 Love this x
Something about it reminds me of Killing in the Name. Can’t be a bad thing. Think this kind of passionate rage & aggression have been missing from the punk scene for years. Nice to see it return.
Don’t get CZcams Premium or an ad blocker, Justin! Start a series of ad music criticism instead! 😂 Is funny how annoyed you get at the ads! 😆
It’s never gone away, you just haven’t heard the bands..
@@tobyb1018 Yup, probably true. So I’ll rephrase; nice to see it becoming more available to people who aren’t deeply invested in the punk scene but who still enjoy punk rock and have been missing it due to it’s underground nature over the last 2-3 decades. That better? 😂
Reacting to the music in bad ads would be classic 😅👌
I went to the first Soft Play show since the guys went on hiatus, in our local T Wells The Forum - was absolutely amazing, everything a punk concert should be
they are incredible live, seen them last week supporting the prodigy. punk is defiantly not dead.
Thank you to Justin's prlrlrlrlrlodiucer for adding this to the JHRA ooooovrlrlrlre. Absolute face smacker. Subsequent thanks to Justin for pointing out it was Robbie in the video. I thought it was Goldie 😂
Saw these guys in Loas Angeles promoting their first album as "Slaves" They are SO Good! a 2 piece really makes this much noise!
This song came up on Spotify after listening to Idles whom I’d never heard before but saw them on tv at Glastonbury. Couldn’t believe how good Idles were and the universe sorted me out with a ticket for Cardiff Castle! I need the same thing to happen for Soft Play now.
Yes . First time I've ever heard " Creaming Jesus" mentioned on CZcams. Still got the records, Mug ,and t-shirts. Back in the days...arrr. Absolutely fantastic, awesome, song and video. Glad you like it.
New musical reference to explore!👍
05:40 the syncronized punches with the drums🤣🤣🤣
(03:34 absolutely those kids scared me more than anything else in the video😅)
🎉Have a great PTL...again🛸 celebration release day!!!🎉
I was fortunate enough to see them in LA opening for Kasabian in 2017. The energy was unlike anything I'd experienced. Magnificent show.
Justin your intro’s are the best 🤩
Played a bunch of festivals over the last five years or so with these guys. Not really my bag but hats off to the noise they create. Really dreadful name change.... pandering to the cause isn't exactly punk is it.
What's punk has to change with the times, the establishment you're raging against isn't the same as it was 30 years ago and if the establishment is racist, fighting racism is punk. And hey, if it's pandering, why is everyone so up in arms about it? Doesn't sound much like taking the easy option to me.
Easily the Best band to appear in years, all their albums are epic and gutsy and angry 😡 and fucking great! And I've got tickets to see them 🤘
This happened with a handful of bands around the same time. Slaves (UK) changed to Soft Play. Slaves (US) changed to Rain City Drive. Eskimo Callboy changed to Electric Callboy. I mean, the Dixie Chicks changed to just Chicks.
Girl Band became Gilla Band and Scalping became Scaler too.
Viet Cong also changed their name to Preoccupations. A little longer ago
@@stittastuttaGilla Band are awesome ❤
As much as it's nice Slaves (US) changed their name in memory of their Manchester show and I liked not having to explain it wasn't Slaves (UK) who still had their name then I don't get the need to change it for reasons outside of wanting a change since they changed lead singer. I mean, there was a valid reason for being called Slaves and no one complained. I don't get it with some of the bands that jumped on the trend to rename.
@Void-Realm Fear of cancelation, I guess. Even though I'm fairly certain that most bands or companies actually gain a following when they publicly refuse to bend the knee. 🤷♂️
Everytime somebody says 'Punk's not dead', Punk dies...
I think one thing this shows is what a wide umbrella of styles punk has, even to someone like me who is old and thinks it sounds more like a fusion of metal and English rap than punk.
So mad to see you reviewing people I know (not closely but they are friends of friends) I always forget how big they are now.
Are you a Tunny Wells-er?
@@fireblade4205 Yeah! Ive met Isaac a couple of times at various gigs at The Forum. Don't know if properly but seems like a cool guy. And his mum is a fan of my band so I like his mum too 😅
@@cjlister8508 that's awesome! (I've seen him from a distance a few times around Tunbridge Wells, not much else) Kent's a smaallll world though
Good day to you mate. Did you record this episode right after a gig in US??? If yes, Chapeau for your dedication to this channel and to your fans. I always thought you were a big hearted man... that would be the proof....- 39 to Milan gig!!!!!🤘🤘🤘
Recorded inadvance to US tour. Currently only on 3 rd show, LA, in the US. Still weeks to go
Who's left to pander to now?
Protecting the dignity of fellow members of the human race is aware and beautiful
Your reaction to the adverts is amusing and also satisfies my nosey nature. 😂
I feel like we overlooked Robbie William's head in a cloud with just a mere mention of him and nothing more
Oh,Creaming Jesus.I remember they had this brilliant Cover Version of The Cure 's "A Forest". The Dancefloor was always full of Pogo dancing Goths and Punks.That was great fun.
Firstly, it’s good to hear Billy Childish is still influencing people (not that he cares). And secondly, get an ad blocker-they’re free.
you can get an adblocker. don't pay youtube
Your love for music is infectious mate!
Just wondering whether "Soft Play" is a fusion between the Doors' album "The Soft Parade" and the rock band "Coldplay". After just this videos listen I also wonder whether the song "Punk's Dead" is in E minor. Anyway, I have been enjoying listening to Code Orange's "The Above" this year, so it would appear that hardcore punk is still alive and pogo dancing this year. There are also loads of pop punk bands touring the UK (Fall Out Boy, Blink-182 and others) this year.
"Soft play is an activity for children that involves playing in a specially designed area with soft surfaces and equipment" almost seems like a bit of f*ck you to people who criticized the original name but was all the more strange when they decided to keep the name permanently
They are an incredible band, the gigs are epic. The Slaves was originally meant as we are all slaves to the wage, the 9 til 5 etc. not the historical slave trade, they realised it was misconstrued and causing offence so changed it. Personally I'm not sure about the new name, but couldn't really give a monkeys!
Very punk to change a band name because it's causing offence 😂
@@rkk578 The punk thing is not really caring that your audience will care, which they did, and they dedicated a song to it
@@Hejon25 Yeah because of caring what the general public finds offensive. You can twist it any way you want, they bent over to society's demands which is basically the opposite punk supposed to be.
@@rkk578 Nah, they did what they wanted to do, that's what punk is.
I did love a right good mosh at the mighty Cardiacs 'back in the day', but having just watched the live version from Reading of this rather awesome song, I'd be concerned I'd lose my varifocals in the general maelstrom.
(And my knees might give out)
Robbie Williams is like the Teletubbies sun, but the dark version.
Crikey O'Reilly! Might steal that for a band name for a punk/traditional Irish music band project. Thanks.
For love of god get the premium version, Justin! Totally worth it!
There is a theory ive always had in music. The moment the drummer pics up a mic, its going to be amazing.
Check out John then... you'll love them!
Best song I have heard all year, thats for talking about it :) P.S. Subed and Liked, whoop whoops! keep up the great work.
I'd love to know what you think of CMAT's 'Stay For Something'. I'm new to their music, but I feel like they're underappreciated. She's got an awesome voice.
I'm sorry whaaat I was on Smoko
The riff is 5th string 4th fret, 3rd fret and 6th string 3th fret 6th fret.
Ah Joel, the worlds answer to a question nobody asked!
Saw these supporting The Prodigy last night. Put on a great show fair play.
Great stuff!!!
great to hear Creaming Jesus mentioned ! great show Justin !
The ads coming through XD
No! CZcams should GIVE you a premium account! Seriously!
What a tune. Fucking adore this band, one of the best about today that’s for sure. Surreal to see you covering them haha
I saw Hurricane Party at a gig years back and they were incredible!
Currently enjoying the 20th Ann. Permission to Land set. I have to ask though, leaving the BBC Peel/Maida Vale sessions off of this set seems like an oversight. Also think the 2003 version of ‘Street Spirit’ should’ve been included. Was there a reason for these being omitted? Cheers
Punk will never die. Every country will be touched and changed and leave its mark. I would suggest that Japan's Otoboke Beaver hold punk dearest check them out, then there's South Africa's Soap Girls, Kazakhstan's Adaptatsiya, West coast USA's Starcrawler & Australia's Amyl & the Sniffers. Justin's reacted to the last two why not give the Beaver's a bit of promotion too?
Band's changing their names..? Has Justin heard Eskimo... sorry Electric Callboy? He should.
Punk is dead i grew up durring the 3rd wave of punk, everyone wanted to be an individual we made alot of our own clothes to react to the styles we liked. It was all about being yourself and being able to talk and share ideas whether troublesome or not. So much of it was about being yourself. Now it's all band wagon jumping all the kids out there pretending to be gay and transgender for the like or views it's so disrespectful to my friends who were out being themselves while the rest of society was making fun of them or putting them down and they were still out and openly being themselves. All the hard work they did to live they're own life and supporting others. Kids and punks today have no idivuality everyone copies what ever happens to be popular everyone is afraid to state they're real feelings about anything because it might now be how the other 90% think. Thank goodness I never claimed for be a punk just a rock and roller. The punk scene aside from some old school bands is just lame as all hell.
@@jonnyhafer936 Punk is all about being yourself so people should.... not talk about being gay or trans? I live in one of the most progressive cities in the world and my gay and trans friends are still regularly threatened and attacked for being who they are in public. It's not a fun little bandwagon, it's spitting in the face of the establishment, a new frontier. You claim there's no individuality and yet you want everyone to just go back to the way they were 30 years ago. Talk about being a conformist.
"Punks not dead it just deserves to die, when it becomes another stale cartoon" - j biafra
For christs sake, I was wondering why I hadn't heard anything from Slaves for a while
I love this song. Great energy
The band likely had no chance of presenting the name "Slaves" in an impactful or change-making context - even if they wanted to. Slavery occurred in Egypt, China, Greece, India, and many others, but that really doesn't matter. Ultimately, it's change your name or don't have a career. Where does "Audioslave" fit in? How about the 70's funk band named "Slave"? Listen to George Costanza and pick a name like "7".
Talking of changing names, what’s your thoughts on Sleezy Jet versus Leicester band Easy Life?
Blimey, Hurricane Party is a throwback! I seems to remember them changing their name to Roadstar...? What ever happened to that band 🤔
Absolutely love that Soft Play track!
I don't think it's a huge deal, the primary risk was a marketing one and thankfully they didn't lose their brand and status which I was worried about. A lot of people we're saying 'where did Slaves go?, but it seems they've now firmly re-established themselves after the shake up with more great music.
It does beg the question though, why is the word 'Slaves' suddenly so inherently controversial? It's not targeted at a particular group of people, and I think it was always obvious it meant they were 'slaves to the system' - a very obviously punk vibe I don't think anyone who 'got it' would ever misunderstand
Hi Justin, Do you like Stone temple pilots?. Greetings from Buenos Aires
Heavy Jelly gonna be awesome
Hi Justin, have you reviewed Mclusky's unpopular parts of a pig yet? Thanks in advance!