How To Fix HBX 16889 Ravage Bevel & Spur Gears - Using Non HBX Parts! Haiboxing RC Fix!
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- čas přidán 18. 03. 2021
- Has your Haiboxing / HBX 16889 Ravage Racing Truck started to make horrible clicking noises that come from the gearbox? It's probably a broken spur or bevel gear! In this video I show how to diagnose the problem and replace the faulty parts. However, I could not find a local supplier for HBX / Haiboxing parts, so I did some research and found another 1/16 RC car that has exactly the same chassis. But the other manufacturer has far more importers in Europe and especially the UK, so I got parts delivered in only 2 days! Very cheap, too!
I hope this video is helpful to all you RC fans out there with HBX trucks, it's good to know that we can steal parts from other manufacturers and we can keep our cars running. Where there is a will. there is a way!
All the best, and take care my friends. Keep on keeping safe. :)
16889 Features:
1/16 scale 4WD Racing Truck
Fully proportional steering and speed control
Full ball bearings
Durable bathtub chassis
Splashproof ESC and Receiver
High powered servo with servo saver
Double-wishbone suspension
Friction dampers with metal preload adjuster
2 x 1000mAh Lipo (Lithium Polymer) batteries
Balance USB battery charger included
2.4Ghz Transmitter included
Lexan (polycarbonate) highly detailed body shell
Steel centre Drive Shaft (propshaft)
2 differentials
LED headlights
Fully rebuildable - all spare parts available
Many hop-up and upgrade parts available - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Definitely something to learn from this, Don't run your r.c. cars or trucks hard !! But also if you do, now you know how to repair them!!👍
Very true! Thanks, Fernando. Unfortunately I can't help running my cars hard! Luckily, this truck has been fine since the repair - fingers crossed! :D
I've just bought the brushless version of the FTX Tracer and it is a little beast. I will certainly be doing the important upgrades after the holidays.
Hi Nick, oh yes the brushless versions of these trucks are bonkers! There was almost no grease in my gearbox so it's worth checking inside. Good luck with the upgrades! 🤞👌👍
I am going to need this, one of these superb little HBX trucks is on its way to me, my second ever hobby grade RC car!!! Have been playing with toy grade RC cars for many years, until I eventually discovered that I can order some hobby grade cars like this great little HBX and others from Ailexpress.
Hi Philip, yeah it's a great little truck for sure! You are gonna love it! :))
Great diagnosis Mark and excellent close-up presentation of it all!
Kudos for finding the parts much closer to home; well done my friend!👍😊
Hi, Jeremy! Thanks my friend, yes - I was really happy to find another RC with the same chassis, with a UK importer! Steve (Shen) said you might have a HBX 1/16 with metal gears - is he right? I could do with metal parts!
All the best, hope your weekend is good! :-)
@@MarkBryanRC I believe the Bezgar 6 has the metal gears, although I haven’t dismantled it; I need to check that out.
@@HaydadRC Cheers, Jeremy! I'll have a search on that topic! :)
Excellent information. Well done video. Thanks for the education 👍🏻
So nice of you to say so! I really appreciate your kind words, thanks very much for watching! :O)
Hi Mark, great wee repair video, a nice and easy fix,good job you have a supply of spares. It shouldn’t be too long until you get gooder at fixing rc’s. 😂👍👍👍🇬🇧
Fingers crossed, Mikey, I'm practicing as much as I can to get better as a fixer-upper!!!! Yeah, cool to find another car with the same chassis for spares! Have a cracking weekend, mate! :O)
Just found your channel dude - and im loving it ... i have an FTX tracer and i couldnt find any videos on upgrading the bits BUT i have it on my desk and i can see like you said its all the same - so ill be putting some upgrades in to this gal and thats thanks to you :D Thanks Brother!
Hi Marko and thanks for watching my videos! Good to hear that you enjoy them. Oh yes, I was pleased when I found the 2 chassis were identical, saved me a lot of searching for spares. All the best, bro!
Thanks dude!!! You saved me alot of time trying to figure out the same problem :)
Glad I could help, Richie! This little truck is so good with the better shocks, a great little basher! All the best from Mark... :O)
Thanks that was really handy. I was able to tackle the front too after watching this.
Factory grease was a bit low quality and not really enough.
Hi Andrew, glad the video was of some use! Yeah, I did add plenty of my own grease when I rebuilt mine, too! All the best from Mark...
Great find and tip mate. I was looking at the FTX Tracer so we could do some bashing together but when you told me about the problem with getting spares for yours I put it on the back burner. But now yours is ready to again just going to have to order one soon. Great stuff mate catch you later.
Hiya, mate! Yeah, that sounds cool, hopefully my breakage was a one-off and other trucks with this chassis will go on much longer without issues. I think Time Tunnel has the Tracer for £53 - blooming good deal! Catch you later, dude! :O)
Great detective work finding the clone. Your HBX reminds me a bit of our Xinlehong 1/16 trucks but only marginally. I think some of these RC companies build around certain high volume parts then put their own electronics and other components on the chassis. Making many parts compatible but some not so much. Nice fix bro, have a great weekend :)
Hello, Paul - thanks very much my friend. Yes, many of these Chinese trucks are very similar, as as we have found out, some do employ the same parts. Lucky for us hobbyists when we need to make repairs or upgrades! I hope your weekend went well too, bro - best wishes to you! :)
That's really good knowledge, especially the first part, the troubleshooting! I think repairing an RC car is (almost) as much fun as building a new kit, although I admit I prefer they just don't break, ha ha, but then I guess I'm not having enough fun with them out in the dirt, right? Have a great weekend, Mark!
Hello, my friend, Mads! I'm happy that you found some knowledge in the video - makes it worth making. In this hobby the best part is sharing thoughts and ideas with others, well for me it is! Hehe, yeah, I prefer it when they don't break, too. Maybe I bashed this truck a little too hard!?!?! Hope you can get out to play with yours soon - have a smashing weekend too! :O)
Great tip on replacement parts there Mark. Great job, keep up the good work, stay safe my friend.
Thanks a ton for watching, Bob! 👍
It's good to pass on any tips we have in this hobby, as I know you are doing, too! Cheers, my friend, stay safe and well yourself! :)
@@MarkBryanRC Right On!!!
Working on my next video now. lol
Nice job Mark 👍
Thanks so much, Cat! 👍
it's great that you are watching and supporting my videos - I can't tell you how much that means to me, always appreciated, my friend! :)
Looking good mark, well done😂
Thanks, as always, Fons! It's very kind of you to support these videos. I wish you a lovely evening, my good friend! 👍
Wow Mark i have not had this happen good fix have a great weekend my friend 👍😀💯
Hi Brent, great to read you! Yeah, I was very surprised when this one broke, most folks say they are as hard as nails! Thanks, you have a great weekend too!
Great content. keep it up. keep posting. one day you can get 1million.
Wow, thanks - not sure about that! :O)
Nice tip my friend 👌 gread job there Mark, keep up the good work i like it 👏😜👍👊
Thanks very much my friend, Xavier! 👍 Always great to read your comments, take care, bro! :O)
@@MarkBryanRC with pleasure, take care to, brother 🤝😀
Hi Mark, hope you are keeping well. Great tip, looks like its ready for another good thrashing as Basil Faulty says! 😁😁😊
Thanks my friend, John! 👍 We are OK thanks - getting my jab tomorrow, fingers crossed! Cheers for watching and commenting, really appreciated, mate - have a lovely evening! :)
@@MarkBryanRC hi Mark, had my vaccine a week or so ago, had the AstraZenenca vaccine, felt a bit coldy and a headache, and generally felt rough for 24 to 48 hrs, but soon recovered. You should be OK though, so make sure you have some paracetamol ready. 😉
😮Drives me insane undoing all those bolts 😅
Haha, yes I know what you mean! 😅👌👍
Very cool sir 👌
Much appreciated, Luke! Take it easy! :)
Sorry I'm late Sir but I have a really good excuse... I got stabbed on Saturday at my Quacks and I've only just recovered after 48hrs of feeling shitty. Anyway, good video about replacement parts for the 16889. It just goes to show that with a bit of tinkering, everything can be made to work again probably better than when it left the factory.
Cheers for the tip. Much appreciated 😎
No worries my friend! I too was stabbed with a needle on Monday, but luckily I didn't feel too bad, just a few aches and pains! Hope you are feeling better now. Thanks for the kind comments, yeah, where there is a will, there is usually a way! Take care, all the best from Mark... :)
Your the man thank you for the driveshaft video you did I looked everywhere for metal but then I realized something the bezgar 7 I have is exact to your truck which also means the chassis to the hosim 903 and blomilky destroyer are also the same but anyways my point being you can throw a brushless motor and esc in from Amazon for about $30 its from the brushless version of mine called the bezgar hm165 and then the 903 makes these in metal for about $15-20 on Amazon fully upgraded these trucks are pretty beast
Hey Roger, thanks, man! Good info on all those chassis that share the same parts, very useful to know! If I can get some money together I'll definitely look at the brushless spares. These cars really are cool little beasts! All the best to you, thanks again!
I love these little trucks and an awesome find re the parts!
Thanks very much, yes I agree these trucks are so good for the money. I really needed to find the parts from another truck, as the HBX parts were not available, but I think I got lucky! All the best from Mark... 👍
@@MarkBryanRC spending a happy afternoon in the garden with mine,is just a total wheely machine finding some adaptable/compatible rally bodies would be cool.
Nice one - good way to enjoy the garden, that's the great thing about these smaller trucks. Other bodies would be cool, I think a Short Course Truck body would suit the big wheels! 😀👍
@@MarkBryanRC 205t16/ Metro 6r4 / RS200 would be great,even if cartooned a little to fit mebbe 1/14 scale ish?
Good call, I am a fan of all those cars! :)
Very nice video 👏
Thank you very much- cheers! :O)
@@MarkBryanRC I would happy if you visit me and look new video 😊
Hey thanks now i know how to open my rc car and change the spur gears
No problem, my friend, as you can see, it's easy! 👍
Amazing sharing. Stay connected
Thanks and take care! :)
Another clone is the SG 1601/1602, cool video, I might need it in the future as I have one of these and my kid seems to be trying to kill it.
Thanks very much for the tip, I'll look out for parts from those clones! Hehe, my kid is always trying to kill my RC's too! :))
Hi Mark, I'm really enjoying the channel, just wondered what type of grease you used to regrease the drivetrain? I got the metal drivetrain version of this and it's sounding rough
Hi Gareth, thanks for the great comments! I just used a general multi purpose automotive grease from Halfords. You can use Tamiya grease if you have any. But to be honest, metal gears always sound rough compared to plastic gears! All the best from Mark 👍
Cheers Mark, great tip I've got the ftx tracer, good to know.
No problem, Paul! Cool that you have the Tracer, I bet it's great fun to run - hope you haven't had the bevel gear problems that I have! All the best from Mark... 👍
@Miller Moshe definitely, have been watching on InstaFlixxer for months myself =)
@Miller Moshe yup, been watching on instaflixxer for since november myself :)
@Miller Moshe yup, been using instaflixxer for since december myself :D
@Miller Moshe yup, I've been using InstaFlixxer for years myself =)
For reference, it's also called the SG1601. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the info! Also a good reference for anyone else reading this! Cheers! :)
@@MarkBryanRC Hi guys. It also seems same like my son's new Blackzon (HPI) Slayer. And from the Banggood comments, also the Redcat Racing Volcano 16.
Good fix, Mark. Uhh, I thought these ones had metal gears. And yeah, got that truggy you showed, just in a brushless HBX version (16890A). Seen a lot of companies sell them. FTX and Pinecone and some others I can’t remember. I always wonder if there is a company behind the models of Haiboxing/HBX (that manufactures to other brands too) or if they are rebranded HBX. Anyways, good repair, my mate 🙂
Cheers, Mikael! I wish it did have metal gears! Yeah I saw that version you have on the channel. I don't know what company originally built this chassis, but it would be great if there was a "pool" of spares that we could access for all the derivatives that use the same parts - but that's why I did this video, to show that if you search, parts from other brands might fit. All the best, mate! :O)
Great work Mark, especially in identifying those English based replacement parts. Top tip. I'm surprised that the gear failed like this - they must be made from a fairly brittle plastic. You would expect them to be a fraction more pliable which would make them almost unbreakable. But herein lies the problem with budget Chinese RC's - based on this they don't seem to be too durable. Did this fail happen after just one run ? Either way it's hard to imagine this kind of thing occuring with established brands like Tamiya, Traxxas et al, although I suppose anything is possible. The next thing you're going to face is the question: will it happen again ? Luckily for you though mate you have a shed full of tried and tested Tamiya thoroughbreds to fall back on. Great informative video and have a great weekend...👍🏻👍🏻.
Hiya, dude! Thanks so much for watching this non-Tamiya video, your support is truly appreciated. Yeah, I was very surprised by the gear failure, everything else on the car seems to be pretty robust. To be fair, as it was free, I really have bashed the hell out of it with little regard to it's wellbeing! I'm not sure if the metal dogbone and axle upgrade I did caused an issue, with the non-flexible replacements putting more strain on the drivetrain? Anyway, I put the plastic axles back on, so we will see. If it breaks again I'll lok at metal replacements (or throwing the car in the bin!!!!) I agree, in stock form it really should last longer than it has, but at £55 all-in and ready to run, something has to give, I guess. Yeah, at least I got 1 or 2 Tamiyas to fall back on!!! Cheers, mate, wishing you a fantastic weekend, too. :O)
Hello, are you interested in off-road remote control cars?
Hiya matey. With all the excitement of having the vaccine yesterday I didn't get round to watching this till late last night. Anyway, interesting stuff. There does seem to be a lot of re-branding that goes on with these so it's a top tip to see if the part you require is available for the other version. I'm guessing that they also do a metal bevel gear for this? Always seems to be the gear that breaks on a Tamiya TT-02B. Those screws at the front look annoying where you need to poke the screwdriver in at an odd angle. Anyway top work my friend. So anyway did you get jabbed too? I haven't had any side effects yet. Makes me wonder if it's worked! Going to take it a bit easy with the beers while the vaccine does it's thing. Hope you are enjoying your weekend. Is work getting any easier? I've been fixing up the Arrma Typhon I bought from Nick. Needed a bit of work but running great now. Cheers for now mate 😀
Hiya, Pete! No worries mate! Well, it's lucky that there is a lot of rebranding when something goes wrong! FTX has a much better sales and service here in the UK than HBX. Cheap stuff, too. Yeah, the bevel gear does seem to be a weak spot on many RC's - but then it does have a hard job to do, transferring the drive through 90 degrees.
My jab is on Monday - going together with Lou to get pricked! Good to hear you have no side effects, fingers crossed. Work is OK, already looking forward to Easter and 2 weeks off - hopefully bag a load of RC footage. No new cars due to the money situation, but I've got a few cars already to film, thankfully! Good luck with the Typhon, sounds like a cool project for you. Enjoyed the latest video! Take care, mate, catch ya later! :O)
The bezgar hm162 is the same too.
Many thanks for the info - that may just help others reading this thread! Cheers! :)
OY Mark!!!! 🍻😊😊👊
OY Carmine!!! :D
Do you have a direct link where u got those replacement parts from?it would be a big help?thanks
I'm really sorry but these parts came with the demo car, I don't have links to them but I think you can get them from Ali Express and Banggood. Cheers!
Do you have some tips for using a replacement gear until I buy another gear
If it's broke the only option is to buy another gear 😎👍
Doesn't exactly tear down and build back up like LEGOS, but it's doable! 😉
Slightly odd looking bits in there... But you've PROVEN that it's TOUGH for what it is - and Costs!!! GOOD that spares are actually available. Turning out to be a fantastic little Buggy!! 😎👍👍
Take good care my Friend!! Be safe out there. 😷
......... And please check your email. 😜
Hey mukka! Yeah, TBH it goes together OK, not too dissimilar to a TT02 in design, apart from that mad spur and bevel gear arrangement! At £4 for the replacements, it didn't break the bank, let's hope it doesn't happen again...
Take care too, love and best wishes to your family. :O)
I guess the £64 question is - are there any Metal Upgrades available?
@@CarminesRCTipsandTricks Yes there are, Carmine! But we will see how she goes, if it breaks again, I will definitely look at those metal upgrades! :O)
My hbx sometimes reverses by itself do u know how to fix that I would appreciate if you could thx
Hi - yeah, some of my RC's do that too - I think it's when the receiver and transmitter lose connection. Usually, a power reset on the truck does the job for me!
Do you know what other pinions can be put in this truck?
Sorry but I'm not sure, but if you do find another size pinion you'll need to change the spur to match it. All the best from Mark...
Great video n Can you point me in the right direction to get a new pinion gear ⚙️ please?? 🙏 I can’t find one as I want to swap the motor out in my HBX Destroyer and can’t get the old pinion off the motor to swap over?? They must of put tons of evo stick on it. Thanks 🙏
Hi there! The only pinion I could find was attached to a motor, maybe it is permanently fixed? Anyway, in case you are interested, here is the link I found:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274778278194?hash=item3ffa0fc932:g:T~gAAOSwfCZgS5AA
All the best, good luck! :O)
@@MarkBryanRC respect ✊🏻 Thankyou very much I’ll have a look 👀 but I may have to drill out the grub screw?? I just want to swap the brushless motor that comes with the Destroyer out for a 6100kv surpass hobby one I’ve bought. Hoping for more power? Thanks 🙏 for the link 👍👊
@@rcandy5119 You are very welcome! Ah, I see now that you already have a new motor! I think it should have more power. You could try heating the pinion up, it might free the threadlock that's holding the grub screw. You will need to get it nice and hot. That usually works for me. Other than that, you may just have to drill it out, but go carefully with that!
@@MarkBryanRC I’m gonna try some heat?? Thanks for your help 👍
@@rcandy5119 I have my fingers crossed for you, hope it works! 👍👍👍
Hey, if the platform is the same as the redcat volcano 16, then the differentials will not fit?
Hi Chris, I just had a quick look and the volcano does appear to have the same chassis. Can't be 100% sure, but there is a good chance the diffs will be interchangable!
@@MarkBryanRC I apreciate it
@@chriis2871 No probs, Chris!
I have a really weird question..
I want to order a battery for this car and i dont know the length of the battery so could you maybe tell me the lenght lf the battery??
That's not a weird question - very sensible! The battery is 55mm long. All the best from Mark...
@@MarkBryanRC And is there a Chance i could fit in a 65mm battery?
@@_b_nc_5606 I don't think so - you may be able to squeeze in a 60mm battery, but 65mm is too big! :)
Any plans to upgrade to metal parts? Cheers!
Hello! We will see how it goes, if the plastic gears break again I will definitely see if I can get some metal replacement gears, maybe an uprated propshaft and spur gear, too! All the best from Mark... :)
Men is compatible Redcat volcáno 16 parts?
Hi - I had a quick look at that RC, and it does look to be very similar, so parts may be compatible, but as I have not got a Redcat, I can't be 100% certain!
@@MarkBryanRC Red Cat volcano 16 IS bad?
@@mauriciobuitragoosorio230 Sorry, but I don't know anything about this RC - but the specifications look very good!
What type of grease do I need ??
Any multi-purpose grease will do the job! :)
With motor off, if I move rear wheels the front don't move anymore. I bet I have to do the same!!! But with motor running they spin
Hi there! Hmmm, sounds like you just got one or two teeth snapped off the gear. Well worth stripping it down to check. Good luck with the fix! :O)
@@MarkBryanRC nothing snapped. I realized later that is normal. With motor off, the shaft only mooves if you hold one wheel and rotate the other.
@@farmoboy83 Ahhh! Great news! Glad to hear your car is OK! 😁👍
what is the size for the pinion?
The pinion is 14T (14 teeth)
😲 O boy somebody lost some teeth! Nice find for the parts Mark... I am not 100% sure but I think haydad RC has RC's the same as the HBX but they have full metal gears.
Haha! Oh yes, Steve, it's a bad day when you loose some teeth! It's good to know there are other cars that share the same chassis, I'm gonna have to ask Jeremy about those gears! Cheers! :O)
That's odd, thats the standard motor in there right? Wouldn't expect a bevel gear to fail like that. Then again it's cheap I guess.
Hi Bob - yeah, I agree! I was surprised it broke, but to be fair I really have bashed the hell out of this one!!! It may be down to those metal axles and dogbones I fitted, as they take any of the "give" out that the transmission had with plastic parts. Anyway, I hope it was just a dodgy gear and the new one will last longer! Time will tell. All the best, my friend! :)
Definitely! :D
if you get out of sand they last a lot. mine lasted many hours of tarmac and dirt bash. the moment i took it to the beach the rear diff pinion went out and a few bashes later the front one also. a set from aliexpress cost 3 euros...very cheap. you can upgrade for metal parts but i can not find for my pro version only the diff pinions on sell. they sell only the pack of metal diff plus pinion and to get only 2 pinions you have to buy 2 sets which becomes expensive. when the metal parts on my pro version wear, ill put plastic parts with stock shaft version. its extremely cheap and even if i have to change parts 3 times a year, its still a lot cheaper than buying full sets of metal gears.
Waterproof?
YES!!! 😁👌
What grease did you use and how much?
Hi. I used molybdenum grease, just enough to cover all the gear surfaces.
@@MarkBryanRC I am tempted next time I open the gearbox not to use grease at all at least on spur gear. Took my other rc, fc610 for a spin on beach sand and had to open and clean all the gearbox because sand entered the spur gear housing and was grinding like hell. If I kept it running like this I would surely strip something. Fc610 has metal spur gear but on this plastic spur gears not using any lub would be OK I suppose
@@farmoboy83 Yep. If you keep running on sand then leaving out the grease might be a better option! :)
@@MarkBryanRC live and learn! Also for those like me that fortunately have money for more than 1 rc car, I will use my brushed 16889 for this type of "adventures" and the others for other kind of tracks.
@@farmoboy83 Definitely a case of live and learn, it's the best way! Good idea to keep the 16889 for the sand, it can take it well!
I would rather buy HBX M16101 and M16102 to upgrade to metal gears 💪
Good choice for you! Thanks for watching! :)
LOL, the FTX Tracer is a HBX with a different body
Haha! I know because my friend has the Tracer! Not everyone else knows though!!!
The chassis is the same as the tracer and wheels but the ftx is a bit cheaper at only 50 and it's worth getting one for parts 👍
Totally agree, Paul - great buggy for the price - thanks for the advice! Take care my friend! :)
Same car with different wheels and shocks
Yep - definitely the same car and the parts are a straight swap! Cheers for the comment! :))
Your model is 16889a because it is brushed. Brushless is 16889
Thank you very much for the info! :)
Going through the same thing w my 1.16 nuoke. Ordering them now
Hi there! Yeah, this must be a common problem! I hope you get yours sorted out OK! Cheers!