Old School VW Scan tool ~ IT'S SO FAST
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- I scored a new to me VW and Audi scan tool. This is the VAG 1551! It works on older VW/Audi Cars. This VW scan tool will not replace VCDS or ODIS, but it's a vintage VW tool that works awesome on the MK3. You will not be as excited about this tool as I am I PROMISE!
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So now when you read your Bentley manual, and it says connect VAG 1551, input 02, 05,06 you know HAHA
Both of the Vw dealers I worked at had one of those. Some of the older techs really liked that scanner. It was definitely ole faithful for the mk3s!
@@fsiguy7539We still have it at the dealer i am working at.
I still reach for this thing when working on older cars, it saves alot of time compared to the current Odis.
Finely found a Bentley manual on ebay last year ;) Retro cool stuff is half the joy
I love how, when he moved it, the glare obscured everything but "HELP" so it looks like the tool is in distress.
I was a VAG tech from 82 > 2000, cut my teeth on the VAG 2000, which used punch cards to input vehicle data! The 1551 came out around 87/88 from what I remember. It was initially just a flash code reader, using a different lead that had two, two pin plugs that connected in the fuse box; it was functionally very basic. I believe that the OBD connector and all the useful functions were introduced with the very first A4 and A6 models along with the B5 Passat. The 1551 still worked with the MK4 up to the point that I left the trade in 2000, though there was a new tablet (like 3" thick) tool out by then with a built in scope and DVM functions. This is all in the UK BTW, so could be different in the States.
I've still got a 1552 in the bottom of my box
Microfish expert??
2:24 *scan tool comes out of retirement- cries out for "help"*
I was a VW tech in the 90s and the VAG 1551 was our go-to diagnostic tool. We had two of them, and something in the back of my mind says they cost something like £2500 each at the time.
The sad thing was that I don't think any of us had proper training on them, so I don't think we really made the most of them. I learnt as much as I did by reading the VW diagnostic manuals.
In the UK, the MK3 facelifted Golf had the OBD2 connector (as shown here), before that they had two connectors with two pins in each - from what I can remember it only spoke to the ECU as that's all that was on it at the time (no ABS or airbags).
What a tank! Definitely better than putting some taps in connectors, shorting them for a few and then counting the LED flashes.
Reminds me of the ol trash 80s.
Built like a brick outhouse!
The dealerships I worked at in the late 90's and early 2000's had that tool and I remember using it a few times. I also had a friend who privately purchased the V.A.G. 1552, the smaller hand-held version of that tool. I purchased VCDS in 2006 and still love it!
I count myself lucky for starting my Volkswagen career when the V.A.G 1551was still around but nearing its end. It made learning VAS-PC and ODIS that much easier. I see the new “kids” struggling with ODIS and all the address words.
I was amazed when VCDS connected and read codes and values from an early 90's audi 100 equipped with Jetronic system using a 2 wire to OBD adapter!
I remember those to little connectors that went in the console of a early 90s Passat and the old water boxers Vanagon
I got one of the first ones he made ,basically a working prototype.
I got it at waterfest in the late 90s and it's in a little project box and hot glued in place.
Haha they look a little more professional these days
They showed us his in training just to see the evolution, although ODIS is not fast I love how VW has test plans and if you follow them can lead To a good diagnosis and makes it easier
Holy S**T!!
A 1551!!!
I can't think of anyone else in the CZcams VW community that deserves that thing more than you sir.
Guarantee there is one of these in our tool room. Now if I can only find it......
I wonder if it still works. LOL The big issue is finding a car it will talk to
HumbleMechanic Yes not many cars that old come in. Oldest we see are Mark 4 or B5.
I started my apprenticeship with Gilder Volkswagen Van Centre Sheffield ( England ) in 2005
This was the first Diagnostic machine I was taught how to use ( wasn’t allowed near the VAS 5051 or VAS 5051b till I mastered the 1551 🤣🤣 )
I remember using on LT2 / T3 / T4 and early T5
I also remember pressing 00 and it did a system scan ( of all the systems the 1551 was aware of at the time it was built ect )
Great tool 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Happy Nerd Charles is the energy I need to get through the rest of this year, I started smiling as he got so excited explaining how the tool works
I used the 1551 in the UK around 1998 when I was a young tech, wow blink on rados proper trip down memory lane. You legend 😂
I’m so nerdily happy to see my interest in retro electronics intersect my interest in VWs. Super cool to see how the modern tools still use the same code values!
well done...try programming keys at a golf mk3..been there done that.....hell i am so old!!!!!! try 1552.....much smaller and so portable........took me 20 years back...thank u!!!!
THANK U FOR THE FLASHBACK MY FRIEND.....................STAY HEALTHY.............AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK......
You too!!! Thank you
TCI FUSION 1552 great for readiness what was more exciting than setting o2 sensors on a VR6 man can’t beat w/o throttle ay 6200 rpm 3 gear
Yes! The old workhorse, the 1551. It had two cables, one with the set of 2-pin connectors, and from 1996 and up we used the OBD2 connector.
On the top of the unit you'll see a little cover. There was a card you could insert in that spot, allowing it to talk with the airbag module on some cabrios- address word 57.
Those units were made by Grundig, by the way.
The 5-pin connectors were the only issue I had with this tool back in the day. The strain relief for the cable is the weakest link. Notice the bare leads on your machine? You can fix this with a new DIN connector and rubber strain relief.
Nerd Alert! There was a small clamshell tester, the 1552. This had the display on one side, and the keypad on the other. No printer, but it was quite handy.
Heck yeah!!!!
We are a big Dealership here in Switzerland and we still have many, if not all old special tools including the VAG 1551 and it's portable version the VAG 1552. I use the 1551 on a daily basis on all the older cars since I save so much time when working on them.
That’s awesome
Actually had to use that a few weeks ago at work. After we dragged it out from under the billion pounds of dust it had over it from never getting used. And it is a super cool tool
Bhahaha that’s cool!
@@HumbleMechanic it is one of those tools that is really fun to get out the one time in a few years you need it. Like most of the old stuff that predates myself. We still have alot of the old repair manuals from the time when they still had boxer engines in the rear for example.
I do not know when the 1551 came out, but I was using it at the dealer on a 1984 Audi 5000 back then to set the mixture on the CIS. That car still had a blink code fault code that you accessed at the fuel pump relay!
Cool to see you "geek out" Charles , i do know the feeling!
Very cool. Modern commercial aircraft can do similar things in the way of giving you information about what is wrong using its own built-in test equipment. I enjoyed this video.
It’s not just for talking to cars; It’s also good for talking to yourself! This was a fun video to watch, even though I understood probably every third word. But I definitely am inspired to learn more about VCDS!!
Very cool to see this antique, I can feel your excitement in this video.
Picked one of these up at an estate sale a few months back, paid $30 for it.
Having an 79 Dasher, 91 GTI and 81 Scirroco S, I was totally stoked.
Was almost like winning the lottery.
That’s awesome
@@HumbleMechanic - Seriously, feel lucky, they're tough to find in working order. Pair it with a bentley and there's really nothing you can't figure out. Still use OBD11 for the R32 though. :)
Aaah, reminds me of college days when we worked on a circuit boards we actually had to know the hex code, the binary codes, the pin inputs/outputs, and code all of the chips in the module from memory. The good old days.
When I started out, we would jumper pins A and B of the DLC (GM cars) and count the flashes of the check engine light. Then we had CAMS and the TECH1. Ahhh the good old OBD1 days.
I feel like we are the only Vw dealer that doesn’t throw this stuff out, we still have that, a 5052, 5051, 5051a( still use this for amp draws on cars as to not tie up a good scan tool), and we still have a lot of the old air cooled stuff like dwell meters and even the lift for air cooled engines to take them in and out
Very interesting :) My dad had a 1995 Mk3 VW Golf Variant from new, so I guess this kind of scan tool probably was used at the dealership in the 90's, where it was serviced at the time.
I remember working at an independent VW specialist shops and we had a good friend who was shop foreman at the VW dealership and I remember his plugging in that exact machine in the mid 90s
The first Audi A4 s and the A6 s worked with 1551 . That takes me back my apprenticeship here in South Africa . If the paper is finished you can use a roll of fax paper and cut it in half with a hack saw . I started there around 1992
I remember using that thing back in 1998! It was pretty badass at the time.
I was always a fan of the VAS 5051 and 5052 in my time at the few VW Stealerships I was at. Super easy to use. Good video, I enjoyed it.
Charles I can relate to wanting to rage smash the scan tool when doing diagnostics at the dealership when I was a VW tech! They were such a pain in the ass most of the time but the hardest thing was having to share 3 scan tools with 14 other techs lol.
I get to use one often! The owner of my repair shop has one and we plug it in to anything 2002 and older.
After too many comm errors using vcds, I found out in Ross-tech site the issue was my laptop's usb ports being on selective suspend setting (settings - power options - advanced) Works much better now 😎
Nice bit of museum collectible HumbleMechanic!
I had a few issues with the WIFI one, but the cable from 2005 is rock solid
The old VAG 1551, I still have one of those, it was my first scan tool, having to remember measuring value block numbers by heart, lugging into T4 Transporters, yeh it is fast, for reading one measuring block at a time, which makes it really slow. Great nostalgic find, Charles. 🤘
Did you ever use the VAS 5051, Charles? I rember having to program keys with that thing on flaky internet, and, only having three goes to get it right, because it was a rolling code that had to be synched with the factory server halfway across the world.
The 5051A was a disaster. Nothing on that thing worked well. The 5051B was pretty gross
*good!
@@HumbleMechanic these days I stick with using an Autel scan tool, it is more intuitive than VCDS is and works on just about everything
The 1551 brings back VW speed shop memories!! I sure miss the 90s. I remember the touch screen that came out afterwards as well... cant remember the code number. It handled the 1.8Ts and forward...
What a unit! Always cool to see how far technology has come, hope it stays of use or at least becomes a nice piece to look at :) take care man, keep it up! 🙏🏼
I used one of these when I (briefly) worked at a VW dealer back in late 1997-1998
@ -4:20 time mark. I would say this is the most interesting video ever. With significant historical value. I would like to see more videos featuring the 1551. Thank you good sir for all your amazing content
Wow it's been years since I have seen that tool super cool.we had the 1551 and then the compact version 1552.great video!!!!!!
Back in mid 90-s as a VW mech, I see the big blue VAG 1551 tool. The tool was quick and effective.....provided that you speak VAG language
God damn, a long time ago i used it all the time, now i have flash back commands passing so fast trought my memory!
It took me back to the 90´s because I bought a new VAG 1552 to work on the b3 Passat and mk3 VW golf and Jetta including the Eurovan
I started with the VAG1551 in 1995 at my first dealer. I currently have a 1551 and looking for a 1552 for my collection.
Regarding ABS, you might be able to use parts from an early MK4. Both used the Teves MK20 system.
I remember vag1551. Earlier 2000s Mk3 golf/cabrio/Jetta and older to beginning of obd1
VAG1551! I love those barn finds!
RIGHT!!!!! Im very excited to add this to the collection
started on this at SEAT dealership in 98ish, was a great tool. When you finished all the dirty bits of the service just go rapid data transfer then 00, by the time you got back from washing your hands full print out was ready for you(copy of this stuck to machine for address word look up if needed). Then we got the 5051 could do so much more, but so slow.
Lol the 5051 was PAINFUL
Worked at a vw specailist early 2000 they had one of these
at the time this was the bollox for anything vag
Love love love the mark three
We actually still use the VAG 1551 on some older cars that we get at the dealership since it’s so much faster to read faultcodes and so component test with, And since I own 2 B4 vr6s and a mk3 I love that thing 😂😂
Wow. I never expected VAG 1551 looked like THAT.
Vagcom never failed me and saved me thousands for my Mk3 awesome find
Truth. 💙VCDS
My beetle from 1973 has a diagnostic port. I would love to get hands on a "code reader". Basicly it's a big box with a flashing light lol.
The great white goat yes 👍 been months since I seen it love that car
0:28 Oh that looks sooooo satisfying!
I cut my teeth on a 1551 at Mahan VW In Houston Texas! Brings back lots of memories! Thanks for video!
The amount of glee in this video is on point! Some would say "Like a kid in a candy shop", but I say "Kid in a candy shop... with a $100 bill!"
HAHA FACTS!
Gorgeous intro
Thanks! It was fun. and yes I did really rage smash a laptop... HA
love it. stuff like this sets your channel apart. love watching your videos
Still in use at Volkswagen Holstebro, Denmark 👍
Haha I've still got my ross-tech that I got back around 97 or so at waterfest.
Works great , might not be so pretty to most as it's in one of those electronic project boxes and got glued in place 😆
He gave us a deal on it because it was a working prototype 🤭
Awesome man. Please make more MK3 videos!!!!. it's getting more difficult finding old VW stuff.
That's pretty cool! Back in the day the Nissan Consult II was the best! My personal favorite.... We currently use Consult III+ I want to throw it across the shop about every 3 days! 👊🔥
That is so cool, congratulations on the barn find. My '91 and '92 mk3's want none of those computer things, but the odometer is pretty high tech as they both have the trip computers. My brother had a mk3 non-turbo diesel with OBD 1 I guess, as he was told it was too old to be "chipped", think it was like a '94 or something. Picked up some mk4 calippers and the work nicely on GT, GTi and VR6 if you get the brakeline, as the mk4 apearenly have pressed tube and hose package thing, and banjo. I read that the Passat 3 tube should fit, but I got the stainless steel braided kevlar tubes from Techtronics over in the US if I remember correctly. Too bad they would have failed my semi anual inspection with those, so I had to get some factory restock or whatever they are called calippers. Do not think I would ever let anyone else change my rear brakepads agein as I got the special tool for when I replaced the discs (and pads for the third time) because I needed new bearings and the discs was uneavenly worn because the initial problem was the handbrake would not let go, so it had basicly coocked one of the discs. You'r VR6 is awesome!
I love your Mark III.
I love the way you said Corrado 😂
Yeah i worked with it. Cool tool
I own a mk3 cabrio and before that i had a normal mk3 hatchback and I never knew I had to slide the obd2 cover off, always just janked it right of
I know a guy near chapel hill that sells diagnostic computers. That toughbook looks awfully familiar.
Pretty cool. Seems very primitive compared to the GM Tech 2 which was for 93 to about 2013 GM's or the Mastertech for Toyota and Honda pre-OBD 2 vehicle's
It’s the same reason I enjoy using an old HP physical financial calculator for work even when I have my laptop with a calculator in it. Certain things are easier with a low latency tool.
I have a old tape calculator I use for taxes. There is something VERY satisfying about a real button and the sound and feel
We still have two of these babies at my shop, but I'm too fresh as a technician to have ever used it.
We also have the hand held version, popularly called the Game Boy.
Also nice VHS color filter on the video. ;)
I've got one of these, and new sealed paper rolls. I can give you the part number for the paper rolls if you need help locating them.
Hey Charles, great vid!! Love the editing! :) I remember when VAG COM was a 1551 emulator first and foremost, but better in every way.
Feel like I'm dealing with Windows 3.1 again. Or ... AOL 2.5/3.0
There's a guy that does older abs module repair that's pretty cheap, I know guys in the W8 FB group have had good results sending them to him.
I loved that thing! It made you a better tech.
I love the old 1551. 1-01-quit-02-C-05.......
Esspecially our old toughbook now got the newer 54 tough book so much better
Yo Charles! You should make a video comparing the MK3 to the MK4, showing what's different and what's the same between them
L like it
Ha, I remember using them at t dealer. Address code 00 was a health check... 😁
That was a while ago huh! HAHA
I say, build a display cabinet on the wall and place it there. It would look awesome... Shoutout from South Africa bro...
I felt like that during the 10 minutes my VCDS took to scan my S6 when my check engine light came on Monday.
Way back, before Gateway, when you had to wait for 14 minutes to scan the fault codes using VAS5051...
Pros and cons to having to short two pins and count flashes. Is there a way to tell VCDS to not read or look for certain modules by default. There are a ton I feel that I shouldn't need to scan on my 03.
@@pkt1213 no idea. I've no experience with either vcds or flash counting. As a dealership tech, I'm only familiar with odis and the old "vas".
I get why you like it, it's cool
I a tec but not a vw fan boy I still think its cool. Its part diag history
Would love to find one of these would be fun to have with my collection of mk1/2/3 cars and swaps. Have VCDS but still this is the cool "period correct" tool for these cars. I'd probably end up toting it to the VW shows with me haha.
Love your videos!!!
The good old K and L line scanner
Yea I remember they had it at one of my training classes. Those things are awesome. But throwing a laptop....yessss so many times I wanted to 🤣🤣🤣
My bentley manual always tells me to use my vag1551, always thought it would be cool to find
Kind of reminds me of those old Tektronix oscilloscopes. Should have popped it open for extra entertainment value. I'm sure it's a birdsnest of wires and giant capacitors in there.
I was in need for old chrysler scan tool to reset transmission quick lean. This tool is obsolete and no longer produced, and it is sold for $30k on ebay.
I had a similar scan tool, it was early NASA
Love those kinds of tools 😁
I'm curious, does you stil have a ODIS tester after leaving the dealership?
Thanks for all your content. It have helped me from time to time as a Škoda and Seat tech over the last 4 years.
As a retro tech junkie, I'm quite disappointed you didn't open the scan tool to see what makes it tick.
Great intro 😂😂